Recently voted the most influential book of all time. Do you agree?
>>7659872
>what is the bible
Shit is the only reason the average person knows how to read
>>7659878
>the only reason the average person knows how to read
[citation needed]
>implying it's more influential by the bible
Atheists are the delusional ones desu
>>7659872
I read the book and I thought it was boring. I fell asleep five times trying to read it.
>>7659872
Bible, Quran, and Principia Mathematica all have it beat imo
I tried to read On the Origin of Species once and made it about half way. I'm majoring in biology though and I have to say the the theory of evolution through natural selection is fundamental to biology. I'm inclined to agree with it being influential but I'm biased because it's in my field of study.
>>7659916
It did say 'most influential' not 'most read' like the bible has been over the years.
>>7659872
>most influential book of all time
No, the most 5 influential books of all time are
#1: The Bible by Jesus
#2: The Elements of Geometry by Euclid
#?: Plato's Works
#?: Aristotle's Works
#?: Homer's Iliad and Odyssey
You can't beat works that are 2000+ years old in influence.
>>7659932
>The Bible by Jesus
>by Jesus
>Jesus
>>7659938
>>7659872
>Recently voted the most influential book of all time
>http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/the-10-most-influential-books-ever-written/
1 The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin
2 Uncle Tom’s Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
3 The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
4 A Vindication of the Rights of Women by Mary Wollstonecraft
5 The Rights of Man by Thomas Paine
6 The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
7 The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli
8 The Bible by Various Authors
9 The Republic by Plato
10 The Art of War by Sun Tzu
>>7659932
>The Bible by Jesus
>>7659932
>The Bible by Jesus
>by Jesus
>Jesus
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>7659897
Perhaps it only takes non-fiction into account
>>7659938
>>7659947
1 In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things came to be through him,
and without him nothing came to be.
What came to be 4 through him was life,
and this life was the light of the human race;
5 the light shines in the darkness,
and the darkness has not overcome it.
>>7659941
That's one of the shittiest list of influential books I've ever seen. Saying the Bible hasn't had the biggest impact on history is retarded in and of itself, but saying "The Prince" and others are more influential is just unbelievable.
>>7659932
>The Bible by Jesus
>>7659941
>no qu'ran
>nothing by confucius
>bible under A Vindication of the Rights of Women
who writes this shit
>>7659959
What trite horseshit. Humans are so susceptible to their own pride that they actually think they're important in the vastness of the cosmos.
>>7659972
Humans are the only form of intelligent life in the cosmos. Once we start colonizing the cosmos we will be impossible to wipe out.
>>7659989
>more galaxies than people who have ever lived
>only have %.0000000000001 percent even mapped out
>light years is a thing.
>>7659967
The Koran is incredibly childish shit, go read it sometime. Muhammad literally orders his followers to kill anyone that simply annoys him since that annoys Allah. The reason people converted isn't the Koran but the Muhammadans.
If it was a list of influential people then yes, Muhammad along with Tamerlane/Timur, Napoleon, Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, McCarthy, Mao, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Nobunaga, etc would be on that list for better or worse.
>>7659994
>I believe in aliens without evidence
>I don't believe in god despite evidence
New Atheists are so amusing
>>7660001
Please tell me your evidence for God. Please do. Oh yeah, and if your evidence has weight (which I doubt) please show me how it gives a single fuck about a small planet in a minor solar system in a vast universe with more galaxies than people.
>>7660001
The Vatican has said it's possible that alien races may not have Fallen.
>>7660011
Try not to get trolled this hard in the future please. You make all of us look stupid.
>>7659872
Why did people believe in religion despite all scientific evidence proven them wrong when Darwin released the book?
>>7660011
>Please tell me your evidence for a scientist, Mr Mouse. Please do. Oh yeah, and if your evidence has weight (which I doubt) please show me how he gives a single fuck about a small cage in a minor lab in a vast planet with more insects than mice.
>>7660022
0/10
>>7660019
I'm pretty sure 4chan is way past that point of looking intelligent.
>>7660001
>I believe aliens don't exist being able to prove it
>I believe in (one, singular, unique) god and think randomness is evidence
>New Atheists are so amusing
no u
>>7659996
The Koran is the equivalent of the Bible for a third of the global population.
>implying the Bible isn't influential
>>7660159
It's value is as a symbol, not the actual writings within. Most Muhammadans don't understand shit when they recite it
>>7659909
>Maybe, but Darwin book is more influential in science.
Just because it's more relevant to today's popular controversies doesn't mean it was the most influential. It isn't even the most controversial book of all time. Galileo dethroned man from the center of God's Graces long before Descartes did.
And "influential" does not have to mean "influential in the kind of way I personally find productive." The Bible is quite clearly more influential than Origin of Species. And for your definition I'd probably vote Discourse on the Method, but that might be a Western bias.
>>7660176
fuck.. long before Darwin did*
That's what I get for thinking what I was gonna say next before finishing what I was saying.
>>7660176
>Galileo
>important
No.
>>7659909
>Maybe, but Darwin book is more influential in science.
I don't see how you can come to that conclusion. PM literally was a part of the creation of science as we know it today and of course introduced calculus to the world. The Origin of Species wasn't even the first time evolution was hypothesized.
If you were arguing influential today I supposed that would be true. Few people still read PM, but this says of all time. The entire field of physics basically grew out of PM.
I also forgot
>The Tao Te Ching
>>7660173
>Most Muhammadans don't understand shit when they recite it
Just like most Christians repeat passages of the Bible during mass, not understanding their real meaning, and ignoring all the shit in the Bible.
>The Koran is incredibly childish shit, go read it sometime.
I have. Have you? The Bible has incredibly childish shit too. hint: Christopher Hitchens and Politically Incorrect Guides aren't good sources of knowledge
>The Quran was the starting point for all the Islamic sciences, which were developed in order to study its grammar, pronunciation, and style, and it is the basis of Islamic law and theology; indeed, as the celebrated fifteenth-century scholar and author Suyuti said, ‘Everything is based on the Quran’. The entire religious life of the Muslim world is built around the text of the Quran. As a consequence of the Quran, the Arabic language moved far beyond the Arabian peninsula, deeply penetrating many other languages within the Muslim lands––Persian, Turkish, Urdu, Indonesian, and others. The first sura (or section) of the Quran, al-Fatiha, which is an essential part of the ritual prayers, is learned and read in Arabic by Muslims in all parts of the world, and many other verses and phrases in Arabic are also incorporated into the lives of non-Arabic-speaking Muslims.
MAS Haleem's Introduction to his translation of the Qu'ran
Generations of Arabic thinkers used the Koran as the same as European thinkers used the Bible as a source for knowledge. Arabic philosophy being a major inspiration to the Renaissance and Western philosophy and science in general. Even if you think it's a bunch of hogwash (which to honest, it is), it's undeniable it's massive influence.
>>7660208
>Just like most Christians repeat passages of the Bible during mass, not understanding their real meaning, and ignoring all the shit in the Bible.
That's a modern phenomenon born in the 20th century.
>>7659941
>only one Eastern book and it's at #10
List confirmed for utter bullshit.
>>7660210
>That's a modern phenomenon born in the 20th century.
No it's not.
Until the Protestant Reformation, most Christians weren't able to read the Bible in their vernacular. And when it was, came in to conflict with the values of the time, so it had to be reinterpreted by the Protestants (which Catholics would eventually bend down to, but conflicts still exist to this day) and a dozen wars to make it more align. There was this one guy who stated that if anything in the Bible contradicted morality, it wasn't inerrant, legitimizing the fact that they didn't want to follow it's bullshit.
Result is invalid unless votes were taken over all time.
>>7660235
>>Until the Protestant Reformation, most Christians weren't able to read the Bible in their vernacular
Because if you knew how to read, then you knew how to read Latin. Latin only disappeared from the curriculum and stopped being a requirement for all learned people to know in the mid 20th century.
>And when it was, came in to conflict with the values of the time, so it had to be reinterpreted by the Protestants (which Catholics would eventually bend down to, but conflicts still exist to this day) and a dozen wars to make it more align
None of this is actually true. Read a history book
>>7659932
Needs more:
#1: The Bible by The Holy Spirit
#2: The Elements of Geometry by Euclid
#?: Plato's Works
#?: Aristotle's Works
#?: Homer's Iliad and Odyssey
#?: Ptolemy's Almagest
#?: Confucius' Works
#?: Buddhist Literature
#?: Four Great Classical Novels of Chinese Literature
#?: Euler's books on Algebra, Precalculus, Differential and Integral Calculus
>>7659872
Like it or not, the bible is more influential. People quote it every fucking day.
>>7660274
You're forgot Socrates. He influenced both Plato and Aristotle. Even though most people believe he never existed.
>>7660235
>came in to conflict with the values of the time
>and a dozen wars to make it more align
The king of England wanting to remarry was hardly a "conflict with the values" that ordinary people cared about and absolutely did NOT arise from mass vernacular translations of the bible.
>most Christians weren't able to read the Bible in their vernacular
That being the church's fault is a myth. There were plenty of vernacular translations before the Protestants. They weren't wide spread because the printing press was wasn't invented yet making them hard to come by and expensive as fuck. Latin books were preferred because they were the easiest to sell and move around Europe since that was the lingua franca of the day much like English is today.
>>7660282
>You're forgot Socrates
Name 1 work authored by Socrates.
>>7660296
"Talk shit get hit, the Socratic method"
>>7660252
"Fire be hot" is then the winner
>>7659959
>Jesus
>Old Testament
GTFO ignoramus fgt pls
>>7660764
The logos predates incarnation. lrn2theology
Seems like a solid consensus and not biased bullshit at all.
>>7661239
>biased bullshit
Biased about what?
>>7659972
Ahh Kos, or as some say Kosm . . .
Grant us eyes, grant us eyes, and cleanse us of our beastly idiocy!
>>7661235
>>7662143
What is a cult, Alex?
>>7659878
you're fucking kidding me m8
This is my list:
1. Republic ~ Plato
2. Nicomachean Ethics ~ Aristotle
3. Bible ~ God?
4. Confessions ~ Augustine
5. Discourse on the Method ~ Descartes
6. Leviathan ~ Hobbes
7. Principia ~ Newton
8. Critique of Pure Reason ~ Kant
9. Phenomenology of Spirit ~ Hegel
10. Origin of Species ~ Dawin
>>7662147
Very good, here's your prize
>>7662159
>Charismatic
Jesus wasn't Charismatic. Most people left him after the Eucharist teaching and didn't want to follow him.
>>7662164
Sermon on the Mount. Literally every speech he gave, for that matter, is said to have drawn huge crowds.
>>7662159
What must happen in one's life to turn out the way you did?
>>7662186
What do you mean? If it's hard to understand why someone might be disturbed by the dominance of Christianity in the Western world, imagine if it were Scientology instead.
For much of the globe to be consumed by a cult is a perverse condition. Any upright person who values truth should work to reverse it.
>>7662164
hold up son, are you talking about Jesvs or Jesus?
>>7662196
>>7662194
>Any upright person who values truth should work to reverse it.
But anyone that values truth would want people to believe in the one true religion of Catholicism
>>7662313
A fine hurp de durr to you as well, friend.
>>7662324
>Christians
>Catholics
pick one
>>7662331
Hey did you hear the Prince of Nigeria is going to wire everybody who sends him money 3 million dollars apiece?
It's been a long time, some days I feel like maybe I've been had. But I try to live every day as if he might wire me that 3 million bucks
>>7662336
>ad hominem and false equivalency
>act smug as if you made an intellectual rebuke
Typically new atheist.
>>>/reddit/atheism is that way.
>>7662341
I'm not an atheist.
>>7662324
>/cm/ timecube
I didnt know I wanted this but this is my favorite image ever posted on /sci/
>>7662351
Good news, there's more
Hmn. Its supposed to be a girl, isnt it?
Eh, Its a trap in my head. Thank you anon.
>>7662159
This so much. It also explains Kim Il-Sung, Hitler and many other dictators. It's found all over the world in many religions, not just Christianity
>>7662341
Oh, you're wanting to judge a group by its extremists? Two can play at that game.
No.
>>7662470
The KKK isn't catholic and hates them on par with niggers.
>atheists in charge of being educated and checking their facts
>>7662486
When did I say they were Catholic? They're Christian (check their website if you don't believe me). And you're clearly trying to redirect the argument with such statements, I'm not falling for it.
>>7659872
Fuck no, any of the 5 big religious texts had far more influence. I'm an atheist before you reddit fedoras start whining.
In fact many things in the book are wrong. Darwin was not able to explain where does the changes in appeareance come from, that's why he had problems explaining his theory. Only when Molecular Biology studies increased (XX century), Darwin's theory was fully accepted. So I don't think it was as influential as faggots think. A biology student here.
>>7659872
Henceforth, the following word will be the most influential of all time. It will be the first word ever written and recorded with sole purpose of influencing a chain of events, however indirect, that will eventually affect every aspect of the universe. The word is:
TESTPOST
please ignore
>>7659893
Not him but there is truth to this. Almost every sect of society has on average achieved high generational literacy through the bible, koran, torah and other religous text.
While /sci/ may scoff at religions it's text has indeed been the bed rock of human literacy and represents the core reason why so many people in the world are still religious to this day.
The origin of species may have made big contributions to biology and science as a whole. But it did not teach centuries upon centuries of human populations how to read.
>>7662515
>the book isn't 100% correct
>therefore isn't influential
What an idiot. Do you actually believe this or did you just want to show off that you knew a little bit about evolution?
>>7662650
I refuse
>>7662650
This is the only post ITT I paid attention to
>>7659872
The bible. Not trolling, any other answer just means you are being ignorant of history regardless of what religion or lack thereof you align yourself with.
Any answer besides pic related is wrong.
>>7662650
what are you testing?
