There is a theory gaining traction that sexual fetishes are induced by pornography consumption and masturbation, and that they can be healed by abstaining from them for long enough to "reboot" the brain. (http://yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innate.) Some people have suggested that homosexuality and transsexualism are also induced by these things, and that our modern widespread pornography use accounts for their increasing prevalence. What are your thoughts on this, /r9k/?
Bitch your literally just posted this on /pol/ .......
It took years of porn use to get me to like traps
>>30018442
>theory gaining traction
If it doesn't already have traction and peer review then it's not a theory. It's a hypothesis.
I don't masturbate, don't watch pornography, and I still exclusively find adolescent girls attractive as well as a few fetishes that revolve around that, one of which is menstrual blood.
>>30018442
I remember liking feet before I even knew anything about sexuality or fetishes - I remember asking women if I could give them foot massages.
So this is probably a load of shit.
>>30018442
after prolonged 4chan use for years I lay in bed and see images of porn in my mind non stop.
I don't know if it's normal, lately the gay stuff has been bothering me, I feel an accusatory presence attacking me and trying to push me to indulge homosexual acts, I could just be a paranoid schitzo.
>>30018635
yourbrainonporn.com is just a pseudo science site made by christians to stop people from watching porn. There's no science involved and most threads like this cite this source as "proof."
>>30018442
That's not really a theory, that's just common sense. That being said, I like being a degenerate
>>30018743
Fuck off alt-right troll
>>30018771
>>30018635
There are 12 brain studies alone collected on the website showing that pornography addiction is a real addiction in the brain, all published in peer-reviewed journals. See for yourself.
http://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users
There is absolutely nothing but science there. Where is your evidence that there is a religious motive?
>>30018442
I found that, when porn I watched started drip-feeding me degenerate ideas through recommended videos (anonymous hookups, craigslist sex, group sex, etc.), I started to consider trying them.
Once I realised what kind of porn I was watching, I narrowed my search terms and cut back hugely to avoid seeing the degeneracy, and my desires to do said degenerate things are now completely gone.
It could be a coincidence, but I'm led to believe that porn can shape some of our desires.
This seems to have presumed that a "fetish" and normal sexuality are divided by anything but an arbitrary social distinction. There's no normal here; most human sexual behavior has elements that have a symbolic rather than literal function (e.g. men get turned on by breasts despite it not really being sexual - and yes, evo psych has an explanation, and that explanation is as unfalsiable as sayings it's down to culture). Moreover, it's not remarkable that if you associate some sorta symbol with a sexual response you'll get conditioned.
Basically the info there is either obvious or deluded.
>>30018442
I think there are 3 things which cause fetishes:
Main cause: Childhood experiences
Second largest cause: Genetics
Smallest cause: Excessive porn e.g. trannies on 4chan
What do my fellow bots think?
>>30018442
it would be hard to measure that sort of thing, but it makes sense i guess. on the other hand, if porn can influence X amount of people into being deviants and loonies, literally anything could have taken its place and made a dysfunctional character out of them. the level of dysfunction still relies on their own competence; i don't believe homosexuality can't be fixed, and maybe it doesn't need to be in many cases.
i was addicted to porn really bad for 8 or 9 years without a single girlfriend and when i started dating i was completely normal myself. my taste never went past traditional sex in the usual positions. i could get off on certain weird/gross things very rarely but then realize i don't like it.
They might be on to something. I remember when I would masturbate in the shower, now I can't shower without masturbating.
Before it was sometimes. Now it's all the time to the point of me showering everyday.
>>30018771
FUCKING CHRISTIANS WHY DONT I HAVE A GF?!?!?!
>>30018811
>science
Science is glorified propaganda built upon a base of presupposition and other fallacies.
>>30018788
alt-right is retarded, nobody believes in white nationalism it's so dumb.
>>30018466
r9k at this point is just /pol/'s lebensraum
>>30019056
>nobody believes in white nationalism
I do senpai
>>30018983
genetics doesn't cause sexuality as much as it provides a blank canvas for one, with maybe a few scratches vaguely outlining what qualities/features you should be attracted to.
which person you will get hard for in your life depends on genetics as much as which sport or video games you would like to play.
>>30019041
This is literally a case of scanning the brains of people who say they are addicted to pornography and finding that they look just like the brains of those who are addicted to drugs, alcohol, or smoking.
I thought this wad foregone conclusion
>>30019140
>scanning
The machines used are made based off of models that are based off of presuppositions
I don't think porn can "give" you fetishes. You become naturally predisposed to certain fetishes in early childhood, and porn can activate what you are predisposed to, but not get you into something on its own.
Pic related probably happens to guys around age 13 now just because they're exposed to an immense amount of fetishes just by looking at the front page of pornhub.
I'm talking about REAL fetishes here, not little preferences like "chubby" or "anime girls" or "latinas"
Feet, piss, vore, things that shouldn't be attractive to normalfags.
>>30019259
Does not explain the thousands of men who have testified that they recovered from their fetishes by abstaining. Including both Havellock Ellis's and much worse.
>>30019316
Simple, your definition of "fetish" is wrong.
If it wasn't formed during your Oedipal crisis, it isn't a fucking fetish.
>>30018442
Open a history book for a minute and read about the fucked up sexual shit people have done.
>>30019372
>Oedipal crisis
Stop shitposting.
>>30018442
Nah, some gays are born that way. The same is true for about half of all trannies imo. The rest are just confused and they feel broken and they hate themselves and think that they need to change something to feel okay. That is fucked up and they often end up killing themselves when the initial rush of change wears off and they realize that they still feel just as broken, and that now everyone can see how broken they are on the outside every time they go out.
Porn addicts do develop crazy fetishes because they need new and increasingly stimulating things to view in order to get their fix. Some of that may be reversible if one abstains long enough, some of it may not be.
Other sexual fetishes are often developed in childhood. When a child is attached to a caregiver, it learns to love whatever behavior the caregiver dishes out, because to do otherwise would be to risk abandonment. If a mother is very controlling and never lets the child do anything itself, later in life he will be submissive and get off on being controlled by a dominatrix. If they were berated and humiliated by their caregivers then they will get off to that.
Sometimes sexual fetishes form as a defense mechanism when one is undergoing severe pain and emotional distress. Oftentimes children who are sick as children and have to undergo painful and humiliating medical procedures where many people were involved and all watching them will develop fetishes for pain and humiliation and public exhibitionism.
>tl;dr
>human sexuality is weird
>>30019210
The denial is real.
>>30019397
During times of societal decadence and among the decadent classes of society. Scipio Africanus and Cincinnatus of the early days of the Roman Republic are not like Nero and Tiberius of the decadent Empire.
I'll say this: I don't really have any fetishes, but I do often find lately that porn isn't doing much for me anymore. At the same time, I find all of the extreme and kinky shit to be repulsive.
But if wait for a few days or a week, holy shit, I can blow my load on hair trigger.
I know I lack something real and I don't have the means to attain it.
>>30019556
>if you criticize muh ideology, youre denying it
>>30018442
fuck off, mormon is what I think
Tried this therapy for myself last year for a week, felt pretty god damn good, but i got into my old patterns after that again, because i am a faggot after all.
>decide to stop drinking, smoking, fapping and eating for 7 days.
>first 2 days were the worst, sweatting, anxiety, feeling dizzy
>after the 4th day i started to get pretty euphoric, i wanted to go out, lift, do things
>after 6 days i felt like i was reborn, absolutely no desire to watch porn or to eat, no hunger.
>day 7 was like day 6, just more comfy.
The mistake is that 2 days after day 7 i started to eat snickers again and fapping.
This shit really helps, but just if you are strong enough, you need to be very strong.
>>30019914
Exercise and have cold showers. People have had great success with both. Also, eat less. Over-eating stimulates greater sexual arousal. It would also be best to stop browsing 4chan, since you are constantly exposed to things that will promote temptation on here.
>>30019636
Science is not a ideology.
This is clearly bait guys, don't respond
