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>Hillary is a corporate puppet and a liar
>Trump is a fucking retard and a liar
You don't have to settle my brothers.
>>29962679
Without instant runoff voting, people are rightfully cynical about the possibility of electing a third party candidate.
jill wants to open borders you loon
((( STEIN )))
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who aren't voting for Gary Johnson
kek
>>29962679
You're right, I don't have to settle
you have no moral highground voting for someone with no chance of winning,. You have to vote for the lesser of two evils, throwing away or scratching your vote is a child's move
>le wasting your vote may may
Not only is it a self-fulfilling prophecy, the absurdly outdated system we use to elect the president in this country makes a huge majority of the country's vote irrelevant anyway.
There are like maybe eight states at most where your vote kind of sorta matters a little bit.
>voting third party
How does it feel to completely waste your vote?
Thanks for getting Hillary elected you dumbass.
>>29963232
> throwing your vote away
if enough derps like you gave up that way of thinking we wouldn't have this problem. it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. or better yet, we would have ranked choice voting.
>>29963293
it is throwing your vote away if you vote for someone with no practical chance of winning. I didn't make the system
>>29963277
>implying someone voting for Jill Stein is a lost vote for Trump
I don't think I'm even going to bother to register. What's the point? I lose no matter what, and I lose hard. This election is significantly dampening my mood.
>>29963309
Funny how nobody makes the wasting your vote argument when someone in Minnesota says they're voting for Trump or someone in Louisiana says they're voting for Hillary.
>>29962983
so does johnson
may as well support trump
unless he picks a fucking neocon for his vp
>>29963322
right, your vote will not change anything if you're voting against a decisive majority
if you are voting for an obscure minority it doesn't matter the what the landscape is, you only achieve some sense of righteousness for washing your hands of the winner's actions, but you fund them anyway unless you're a tax dodger
>>29963315
Oh I'm sorry, please tell me how voting for some WOMAN who has the same last name as a JEW is going to help me vote for Trump.
FUCK THE FUCK OFF.
TRUMP IS MY CHOICE. IF YOU VOTE THIRD PARTY YOU LITERALLY ARE LETTING HILLARY WIN.
>>29963321
I really hope a third party makes it one day, even if that just means they get to participate with the rest and win over a small minority - the system is painfully rigged against them and it would really shake up shitty elections like this one with outsider opinion.
>>29963335
Well, not a neocon, but the cons would certainly like his VP much better than him.
>>29963335
But he did basically pick a safe, member of the GOP christian conservative crowd.
many on /pol/ ranged from upset to "eh, he's ok I guess."
Reminder to everyone that if enough people vote 3rd party, it will communicate dissatisfaction with the way the current political parties are running things.
A large turnout for Johnson will say that Trump failed to appeal to non-conservatives, and a large turnout for Stein will tell the Dem's to stick to their left wing guns. Stein is very similar in policies to Bernie.
>>29962679
>voting for the fucking greens
http://bunkermag.org/social-justice-social-democracy-reactionary-bonnie-clyde/
>>29963189
muh markut will fix everything
kill yourself
>>29963467
just hope the other side of the aisle is more indignant than yours :^)
>>29963467
The only reason to worry about his VP pick is if he was assassinated, which could be a real possibility.Other than that it should be fine, if he really wanted to win, he'd pick Bernie Sanders but the old Jew nutbag wouldn't probably do it even though they actually agree on a lot. If they were to kill Trump they'd get stuck with something much worse, crazy commie Sanders.
>>29962679
she will gas the juice, rice war now
>>29963393
>WOMAN
>JEW
you're a literal retard
so how are these independent-fags going to work with congress? oh,thats's right, they won't. you're voting for gridlock in washington, that's it
>>29963533
You posted a woman, and Stein is a Jewish last name.
I will NEVER trust a woman in charge of anything.
>>29963559
This is a good point. President-Congress relations have been so good the last 8 years we wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardize that.
>>29962679
Trump has a high IQ though.
>he fell for the free shit meme
remember no refunds faggot
>>29963533
>This kid actually think it's okay to have women in charge
I'm laughing. Laughing at you.
>>29963587
take your idpol and leave
>>29963607
>All those reddit/tumblr/fagbook faggots just funded Hillary Clinton's campaign by taking out Student Loans
Like pottery
OP is a pol shill thinking he can chip off Hillary voters, how absurd.
I guess he can't convince people to vote for his retarded meme candidate with arguments.
>>29963153
>>29963189
These
What happened to all the people that supported Ron Paul.
I guess it was all pretends and going along with the memes.
Traitors.
>>29963662
We're still here we're just not voting for some left leaning faggot like Johnson.
>>29963662
Ron isn't running and Johnson is a faggot who is for open borders. As someone who has lived in East LA all his life, I can tell you that it's a bad idea. How do you feel about LA? Do you want the entire country to resemble LA because I can assure you if they open the borders MILLIONS upon MILLIONS will come not only from Mexico but all over South America, Africa and Asia as well. And they're not going to send us their best and brightest either or their prettiest.
>>29963232
>>29963277
>>29963269
It's not wasting my vote because i couldnt give less of a shit who wins between Trump and Hillary. It wont matter because they both work for the establishment. Trump is better at hiding this, but of course when he gets into office he'll support things like trade agreements and deregulation because he's a "business man".
At least if Jill Stein were to somehow get elected, it would sow the seeds of change for our deteriorating free capitalist system. That's why i don't look at my 3rd party vote as a "wasted vote"
>>29962679
>>Hillary is a corporate puppet and a liar
>>Trump is a fucking retard and a liar
Based. It's all a sham. Banks and corporations run the government
>>29963764
Is that the only reason you wont vote for Stein? Do you realize that even if she wants that, there is no way in the universe that congress would let her do that? People who want to come to America ALREADY DO. Even disregarding that, our population is already grossly uneducated and underpaid because you refuse to support people like Jill Stein who want to do things like raise minimum wage and stop the outsourcing of jobs. OUR ECONOMY IS BROKEN AND YOU THINK THAT OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS FUCKING MEXICANS?
kill yourselves bernouts
voting for stein is just as stupid as voting for hernie. she is just as likely to sell out to clinton as him
>>29963662
Gary Johnston is not Ron Paul
>>29963764
Open borders is not going to happen retard and a wall isn't going to happen either.
The point is GJ is an honest intelligent person unlike Trump who flip flops on every issue and speaks like a retard.
On top of that GJ has about 10 points so he can conceivably make it into the debates unlike stein.
>>29963692
>We're
>we're
>we
You are just a memed up retard that follows.
>>29963907
Anybody who advocates open borders should be shot. How can you complain about the minimum wage and outsourcing while in the same sentence talk about illegal Mexicans? Why should or would any company hire anyone at the current minimum wage when they can hire illegal Paco to do the job for $1 an hour while abusing the shit out of their employees who will do what they're told due to fear of being deported? Illegal immigration is why the minimum wage hasn't changed much in over 20 years but somehow bringing in even more illegals will also somehow fix that.
>>29963930
The only reason Ron Paul hasn't endorsed Johnson is because Rand ran in the same cycle.
It probably will happen anyway.
>>29963952
You're just a memed up edgy individualist who is willing to sell out libertarian ideals for federal money which is hypocritical
>>29963964
Illegal immigration is NOT why the minimum wage hasn't changed. It hasn't changed because we don't have worker's unions anymore and most chambers of commerce do anything but protect the rights of workers now and because multi billion dollar corporations can lobby and stop the government from looking out for the best interests of individuals. If companies hire illegals for cheap, that doesnt mean the solution is a stronger border or deporting them all. That means better regulating the fucking companies that do that shit.
>>29964043
Take an economics course, companies want to compete and are willing to pay the market demands. Having 40,000,000+ illegal people in the use willing to work for much lower wages drives the value of labor down. Less people competing for minimum wage jobs, higher demand with higher pay. This is pretty simple stuff.
At this point you're just better off abolishing the minimum wage law already and letting companies hire people for 50 cents a day.
>>29964093
OR you raise the minimum wage and thus force companies to pay their workers what they should, regardless of them being white or mexican.
See how many companies hire a mexican over a white worker then.
>>29964264
WTF would that do? If you'd raise the minimum wage companies would just fire their legal workers and replace them with illegals even moreso than they do now.
>>29964347
>companies would just fire their legal workers and replace them with illegals even moreso than they do now.
they would still have to pay the same wage to an illegal
nobody will hire illegals over legals, because legals simply do the job better
given same payment it's clear who will win
or are you saying they still will pay LESS even after you pas a new law?
well then you assfuck them, in legal terms
>>29964380
>or are you saying they still will pay LESS even after you pas a new law?
That's exactly what they'll do, why pay someone more when someone is offering to the the same work at a fraction of the price?
>>29964438
because it'd be illegal to do otherwise
also remember, that hiring an illegal itself should get you into for ex tax, legal trouble and even a slight indication of such a threat scares companies a lot more than having to pay a slightly higher wage
all i'm saying is the government can VERY EASILY enforce these things, but they don't really, which turns into an incentive for people to come
>>29964480
>because it'd be illegal to do otherwise
It is, and they still do it and they'll keep getting away with it, no matter what laws you pass.
>>29964507
really irritating you didn't read my post or chose to ignore the meaning of it, feels like i wasted my time
>there are "robots" voting for Trump
Literally why? He's the normie candidate. Bernie could have been the robot candidate but he's out, Shillary is another normie but at least she isn't Trump-tier. He's literally going to throw us NEETs and robots under the fucking bus.
immigrants are also better, harder workers for manual labor and don't give a shit about worker's safety or rights
white men can't compete, but they still want to for some reason. Take a loan, which they cannot do, and become a slave driver yourself or you'll be left in the dust
>>29963232
thinking like that is what got you in this situation in the first place
if everybody would just vote who he thinks represents his interests the best you might have a chance to get a healthy democratic system again
of course as long as only people who have enough money or cater to lobbyists are able to run you're still fucked
poor usa, you had so much potential and you're degenerating as a society so fast...
>>29964539
They could enforce it, but they won't. The government and corporations go hand in hand now. And don't think Jill will be any different, just look at how Anti-establishment comrade Sanders bent at the knee for Hillary.
>>29964567
I'm actually not in the states, but in the system they have you are not a smart person to vote for your interests if doing so actively enables a person who is more against your interest an advantage
>>29964563
If you're referring to his neetbux policies, they're only aimed at minorities and women. Sorry, white man.
>>29964588
I never seriously supported the Bern either but he seemed like a better alternative to Hillary at the time and Trump. He wouldn't have actively attacked NEETs though, Trump will ban vidya/anime and force us into factories.
>>29964588
>they're only aimed at minorities and women
do you have to be such a blatant liar
just think about it, you go to apply for neetbux and they tell you 'nuh-uh you are a white man'
it's never going to happen, which makes you look ridiculous
not surprising seeing as your kind is SJW on the right
>>29962997
>it's another /quality/ polack post
>>29962679
We need to import more Muslims into the west. If we hate our enemies, they win.
Not that Hillary Clinton has said she wants to limit Muslim immigration, I am forced to vote libertarian this election. I want wide open borders for anyone that wants to come in.
>but America and Europe won't be white
The world isn't white deal with it. Whites are beta cuckhold weak pansy faggot losers that deserve to die for their terrorist attacks and imperialism.
>>29964563
Bernies "free shit" policies are only concerned with tuition-free feminist courses for women and reparation $$$ for the darkies. If you ever become a wage slave this is where your increasingly large taxes will go.
>>29964627
>If you ever become a wage slave
lol, dumb ass
I'd pick wagies funding feminists over trump forcing us NEETlords to work in order to fund a giant fucking wall any day.
>>29964641
feminists aren't the only ones going to college you know
>>29964641
Working on the Trump wall would be an honor. Imagine pointing off to the horizon in your old age and telling your grand kids "daddy built that wall".
>>29964694
>having kids
get the fuck out norm
>>29964605
They already have institutionalized racism in the form of affirmative action and racial quotas in many corporations and universities. What makes you think those can't be implemented for welfare recipients?
>>29964753
>They already have institutionalized racism
Is that bad?
Or is it bad only when it's against you
>>29964438
>>29964507
Which is why the left has been advocating for amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Those who are gainfully employed and not criminals get citizenship, or at least a path to citizenship.
Amnesty for hardworking immigrants and securing our borders don't have to be mutually exclusive.
>>29964882
You're really naive, aren't you? Even if the 40Million+ illegals were given amnesty, illegals would still be pouring in and companies would start using other illegal immigrants. Leaving millions of new citizens without jobs who have no real skills or education and are guaranteed welfare by the American taxpayer.
That's just the start though, it will only get worse when these get mass produced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A
Suddenly every illegal and low skilled worker would find themselves without jobs in the very near future. What's America going to do with millions and millions of unskilled workers who have no job opportunities?
Jill and Johnson both want to get rid of borders and while faggots wince and whine that congress won't let it happen just wait until they get more of their like minded friends into congress.
>>29964583
the system they have does NOT give them an advantage
the fact that people THINK it gives them an advantage is what actually gives them the advantage
the system is fine (it's bad but it can still work) it's the people who shape the political landscape
>>29965007
>the problem isn't that corporate executives completely fuck over their workers because there's literally no regulation, the problem is that there's too many humans who want to be able to work for a just barely survivable income.
>>29965007
fuck borders if that's what it will take to have a freer market
yes it will be bad in the beginning, but the market will sort itself out and the next generations will thank us for the fruits of capitalism we've left them and the wealth that was created by allowing the market to run its course
If companies need to hire immigrants to do their thing, then so be it - it's competition and it doesn't care for your feelings
get over it
>>29965072
LOL, the "market will run its course" meme. The only direction that the market will run is straight into a worldwide corporate oligarchy. Shit, we're basically already there.
>>29965104
nice argument
you are a literal socialist
>>29965112
You say that like socialism isn't infinitely better than the fucking disaster that is capitalism.
>>29965066
There's regulation, they just don't follow it, which is why we have so many people illegally in the US.
>>29965072
The problem with your irrational line of thinking is that humans aren't 1:1. You can't just grab your average White person and replace them with a Black/Mexican person and expect them to be the same. If you want to live in Somalia, then by all means but I'd rather pay more for my products and have the money go towards legal Americans than pay slightly less and live in fucking Somalia.
>>29965173
apparently you CAN replace them with a Mexican though, which companies, and in effect, the market has realized
>Somalia
strawmanning faggot, we're talking about mexicans
>>29965187
For low skilled work, sure but if you opened up the border, you'd have to live around them. They're already spreading up North in the US. Trust me, you wouldn't be able to handle living among them. If you think normies are bad just imagine normies who barely speak English, are shorter than 5'5 and are always trying to bantz while popping out 8 kids. They also love blasting Mexican music till 5AM, they're nightmare normies.
>Somalia
There's no regulations there
>>29965173
They don't follow it because they dont have to because they can make their own rules because billion dollar corporations own the US government because of things like massive lobbying and extremely low corporate tax rates and loopholes that go on because things like Citizens United and the Reagan administration's tax cuts that happen because people like you vote for people like Donald Trump because you think that some fake issue like "immigration" matters.
>>29965255
>muh feels, I don't like mexicans
You have no argument.
Mexicans, hispanics w/e are not niggers you retard, both in terms of history, achievement, genetics etc. Spanish in Europe don't have lower IQ than non-spaniards. As far as nat. americans are conerned, they didn't contribute too much genetically to mexicans and they are very close to asians anyway, they'll adapt very well and do adapt much better than blacks in general.
Get over your feelings.
if we do not destroy capitalism capitalism will destroy us
>>29965346
even if shit really hit the fan, which it most likely will according to scientists, we'll still survive as a species
though the world will be much a different place
>>29965332
>Citizens United
You have to stop getting all your news from Bernie Sanders
>Reagan
Funny you don't mention how Reagan gave Amnesty to millions of illegal Mexicans with the promise from Dems that they'd reinforce the border and amnesty would never be brought up again, yet look where we are decades later.
>>29965336
I talked about Somalia earlier before you threw a bitchfit.
>Mexicans, hispanics w/e are not niggers you retard, both in terms of history, achievement, genetics etc.
Just admit you're a butthurt La Raza Mexican, you're a fool, I live right next to East LA and I've been to Mexico, they are just like niggers. Mexico is a shithole because it's filled with Mexicans, plain and simple.
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
>Mexico average IQ 88
>>29965373
>we'll still survive as a species
yes, but we have already depleted much of our oil resources
what remains can now only be extracted using advanced techniques
this means that we would never again climb the summit to our present level of technological advancement
we would be forever locked into a primitive existence
we could have had so much, but we chose to squander it all, to create inferior short-lived products whose only value is generating profit
>>29965434
serbia iq - 89
ireland - 92
spain - 98
The linked you posted proves my point, a point I made preemptively to prevent you from posting this shit, because I know exactly what you will post.
>inb4 mexicans aren't spaniards
no they aren't, because of nat.american admixture, which can only help - they are genetically european + asian
>inb4 nat.americans aren't asian
they are genetically, that's where they came from 10-15 k years ago, not that long ago
You are REALLY REALLY bad at this
>>29965173
white people are worse workers, for every unskilled job that has ever existed because they aren't hungry and have lived on a pillow their entire lives
ask employers and they'll tell you 10/10 times who is preferable
