>Try being a nice and genuine to women
>Just get friendzoned; no pussy
>Try being a douchebag alpha male loudmouth to women
>They get offended; no pussy
Nothing fucking works. Am I just ugly?
>>29935902
I love it when a guy says he's "GENUINELY" being nice but when his niceness doesn't return any profit he shows his true colors. Please twoface, keep your "genuine" niceness to yourself.
Do not be disheartened
Many have fallen to the 'charisma' meme
It is literally appearance>what is done or said
>>29935902
It's cause you wait too long to make a move.
Make opportunities, don't wait for them.
>>29935946
>Be nice your whole life because it's the right thing to do
>No one really reciprocates or treats you with equal respect
>Notice people around you who are objectively worse/more mean people being more successful based on nothing more than a popularity contest
>Become jaded and bitter at this prospect as any normal human being would
>"HAA YOU AREN'T 'REAL' NICE GUYS"
>>29935946
I get that. It's true that many of us have ulterior motives. Yeah, we do want a gf. It doesn't mean we're not also being nice.
But yeah, I get where the """"nice guys"""" thing comes from. Plenty of them get pissed off and hateful when they don't get anything, and it was truly just all ulterior motives. Their niceness is often superficial too. They're being nice to people, but often not really trying to be *good* to them in any way. They just think they have to act in certain ways to get favors in return.
But it's not like being genuinely nice will get you much of anything either. The less socially functional you are, the less it'll pay off, and the more difficult it is to be genuinely nice in the long run. That's why it's a bit rare (even among normies). It's still something to strive for though.
But genuine or not, it doesn't seem like a good way to attract girls.
I've been successful with this technique
>approach woman and show interest
>don't do anything else
>give her validation every now and then and touch her and kiss her
That's it. They don't give a shit about you, so don't be yourself or someone else. Be nothing, just be their sex toy.
>>29935946
Nice confirmation bias.
>>29935946
>As a woman, I should be allowed to take advantage of your niceness
The reason you fail is because you are false in both scenarios and you lack the awareness to process this on top of the fact everyone can tell and it puts them off.
Genuinely nice people are obvious in their sincerity and there's a difference between actually being an asshole and banter, which people with poor social skills cannot replicate.
>>29936047
>he thinks he's nicer than the guys getting women out there
top
>>29936525
I am - I'm very nice.
original original
>>29935946
>implying those women dont realize that the beta wants more than friendship
>implying they dont use him as an emotional tampon
>implying these guys arent the type who want a long term relationship and not just "pussy"
Whats funny about all this is how cavalier modern women are with their vagina. They will meet complete strangers they met on tinder to bump ugliest with, but would rather die than throw a bone to someone who puts them on a pedestal.
Roasties: Not. Even. Once.
>Lack the capacity to be nice and genuine to people, but act very professional and polite
>Disregard emotions of women and just run my mouth about shit and honestly criticize them wherever i can
>They think I'm fucking hilarious and charismatic as fuck
>Couldn't give any less of a shit, some follow my advice others want to bang me
I would straight up act like a psycho OP
It works
>>29936634
yea its way better to engage with someone open and honest than a twofaced scammer. what a shocker!
>>29935902
>>friendzoned
Is this meme coming back?
>>29936704
>two faced
How is treating someone you like well "two faced"?
>>29936747
>friendzone
>a meme
>>29936704
>open and honest
>twofaced scammer
Why do you say that though? Couldn't they be nice AND want to have sex or a relationship with a girl? It's not dishonest to want to do both. Why should the two be completely separated? They're not incompatible.
>>29936747
When will the "friendzone being a meme" meme die already?
>>29936378
interesting theory, expand?
>>29935902
>Rule #1: Be attractive
>Rule #2: Don't be unattractive
Those are the rules, whether you're a nice guy or an asshole
>>29936704
>all the men I'm attracted are open and honest and don't lie to bed me at all!
Women are so clueless. It's a wonder why these "nice guys" are foolish enough to worship them.
>>29936760
>friendzone
>anything but a meme made up by fat cucks who can't get a date
>>29936771
>They're not incompatible.
Heh, you'd think they would go well together, but women enjoy different things from their friends and from their lovers.
>>29936758
>>29936771
because if you read the fine print the niceness has terms and conditions attached to it. Those twofaced people i'm talking about is using their niceness as an investment. There is everything wrong with it.
How would you like to win the lottery and suddenly become soooo interesting to women everywhere. Same applies where having a vagina is like having won the lottery and all the guys flocking to you aren't doing it because they are genuinely nice, they just want a portion of your lottery winnings.
>>29936789
When one of you faggots proves being friendzoned to be legit
>>29936816
>He thinks dating a woman with no sex = out of the friendzone
Fucking Christ dude
>>29936848
>He thinks sex has to be on the table up front for a relationship to be validated
>>Friendzone
Lordy
Its all about looks. Girls will friendzone a genuine nice guy because "he's just trying to get laid", then she'll date a player without hesitation knowing full well he's going to hit it and leave the second something better comes along.
Every single straight male is mostly only interested in sex, in fact its the "nice guys" that want more of a traditional relationship with dates and love type shit. When these whores are 40 and still single they'll realize what they have done.
>>29935902
I'm a 'real' nice guy. It's quite simple:
>respect that women can make their own fucking choices.
>have lots of female friends but don't feel like I was friendzoned
>don't expect anything from women in return for my respect + friendship
>be yourself
>finally land a girl
>turns out she isn't what you wanted
>fuck
>back to square one
>>29936829
Yeah ok. If you mean people who are truly twofaced and only want in your pants. But the whole "nice guy" thing is often applied to betas in general. Like it's wrong for them to want to get laid or have relationships. Of course they want that. Everybody wants that. They can't help but have a sex drive too. It doesn't mean they're two faced just because they have wants and needs. They might still be nice. Doesn't mean they deserve anything, but they're not filthy scums just for wanting it.
>>29936829
Oh, poor you, you have easy access to sex and people want to be around you and give yoy attention! What a tragedy. Fucking self entitled roastie. I hope you at least didn't fall for the feminism memes.
Some guys are just genuinely trying to be nice, either because they're shy/naive and don't know girls are attracted to being treated like shit, or were simply fucking raised right.
They don't expect sex in exchange for niceness like it's some sort of game (manipulative roasties assume this because this is how they view and treat their roastie friends), they simply assume that if you like someone, you should be respectful towards them!
These entitled sociopaths who actually pretend to be a decent person and go apeshit when a girl isn't interested are few and far between. But you don't know or care, because you only want Chad.
>>29936889
>He needs some sort of validation from the opposite sex
>>29936907
You're not a nice guy, you're a fucking cuck. Stop giving these girls attention when they don't give you shit in return. No straight male should have girls that are "just friends". You're either with me, or fuck off.
>>29936790
Not him but what he means is shit like this. Right now I'm talking about actually nice guys, like me, not pretending shitheads
>be nice, because it's nice to be unlike the rest of the world
>be considerate to people, especially girls because I think girls are neat and I like seeing them happy
>they do like this, but they never like me or want to talk to me rondo things that all normals humans want done with them by other humans
Companionship in other words
>see guys that are not as nice
>guys who do things like cheat on girls, lie to girls, break their hearts, play games with their heads
>some of these guys sleep with a lot of women
>these guys would not care about a girl's feelings, but girls would want to do things like touch them and hold their hand etc
>can't help but feel a pang of indignation at this
Now personally I don't take it out on anybody but myself because I've literally never met a lesson as considerate as myself. But for people that aren't freaks of empathy...
I hope this helps you to understand. And of course, there are guys that are just pretending because they just want to fuck girls.
Which is what I want too but I want to be one of those "fun" guys that girls want to have "fun" with so there's transparency and nobody gets hurt.
It's a fuckin madhouse, and I want off.
>>29936829
No, there is no fine print. Roasties use that to deflect the blame. Look at it from the guy's prospective. Here is a girl he's obviously attracted to. She obviously knows it to (there is no way she cant). In spite of that, she talks about her bf to him, not caring about his feelings in the matter. But instead of making it clear that he has no chance (because why would she take his feeling into consideration), she strings him along, playing on his hopes (but this is totally not two faced :^) ). So now he's stuck with having feelings for her that she will never return. And when he finally gets frustrated and decides its not worth the tears and stomach ulcers and moves on, hes some sexist pig who was 'putting in time for pussy".
I suppose he should stick in with the pain of seeing her chase after other guys b/c he wasn't good enough to date and keep being used as a fucking doormat. He should selflessly tend to her needs forever, like some eunuch. Get real.
>>29936950
>He doesnt want to be in a genuine, loving relationship
>He still expects sex in exchange for 'niceness'
This is why you think the friendzone is real
>>29936977
What if you don't want to bang them and/or they are friends of a gf?
>>29936620
Maybe you should ask someone other than yourself how nice you are.
>>29937010
>genuine, loving relationship
no such thing
>He still expects sex in exchange for 'niceness'
I don't expect a goddamn thing you dense faggot
>>29936977
You can very much be "just friends" with a girl. Most of my friends are girls. I dont want to get with any of them, and they're genuinely nice people.
Then again, I'm not straight :^)
>>29936758
Because she needs to rationalize not being attracted to them. So "nice guys" are insidious rather than simply unattractive (and therefore subhuman) to them.
>>29937003
>He thinks women like guys who are "fun" and "transparant" and don't actually enjoy being used, dominated, and pumpedndumped
Top kek desu, but take the red pill already
>>29937024
>Denying a genuine relationship is possible to further validate himself being a huge cuck
>"I don't expect a goddamn thing"
>He says not even concealing the fact that he's been triggered hard
>>29936945
Is there any real examples for this image?
>>29935902
women have heard those canned responses all their life. Try and b urself (aka don't use Chad tactics if you're an autistic 4/10)
>>29937010
Honestly, this really just seems to be rationalizations. The "nice guys" actually being jerks is just a meme to justify chasing Chads while getting attention and kindness from betas. Women don't even get off Tinder WHILE you're dating them these days. You'll try to be good to them, get to know them, be their friends, make them feel better, get them to trust you and make them happy, and then they might go meet some random dude off Tinder after you drop them off. These betas want to get laid, but they didn't do anything wrong. They can't do any better than that. There's really nothing more they can offer sort of becoming more alpha.
>>29937087
Women are just too emotionally needy and manipulative to have a "genuine" relationship
>>29937087
>I'm triggered by something
deflect that inane shit you implied their, because clearly you mean you expect attention from women
>>29937059
No. I refuse. Even if girls like that, that doesn't mean they all do. I mean if I meet a girl and she wants to get used like a fucktoy then I'll do that for her.
YOU SHAN'T BEGUILE ME WITH YOUR FOUL WORM'S TONGUE. ONE DAY WOMEN WILL LIKE ME OR ILL DIE TRYING
>>29936977
He could be one of them there faggots
>>29937003
I know where you're coming from, its not your fault women are fucked in the head. You gotta be a piece of shit if you want to make it in this world. Nice guys really do finish last.
>>29937126
>doesn't mean they all do
Bruh
Bruh
Bruuuuh
>>29937126
>Even if girls like that, that doesn't mean they all do.
A disproportionately large amount do. And there are more male subs than female dommes, so have fun fighting 100 guys for that one girl. I hope you're the cream of the crop (pun intended)
>>29937124
I was actually referring to your massive change in tone there, John Butthurt.
You're so much in denial it's almost depressing.
>>29937126
I'm sorry man but that is the nature of women, its a hard pill to swallow especially when you have been raised right. I know it hurts, but you gotta realize this if you ever want to get a gf.
>>29935946
Did you catch that OP? When she said "profit" she means that if you have nothing to offer then it doesn't matter how you look or act, she will still reject you
Remember women are incapable of think of others, they only think about themselves. If you want to get a girl and keep her for a few months here is what you gotta do
>lift and have visible tattoos and a beard
>drive a car with a MSRP of at least 45k
>have your own apartment (no roommates)
>benis size varies amongst women but 5 inches is the universal standard
>I've learned that owning a dog actually boosts your rank a bit, cats are a no-no, and anything else she will just be put off by it (fish are an exception but you have to make it obvious that you take care of them)
>you need to dress like every day is a Sunday afternoon in downtown Paris
>no anime, no visible signs of waifuism, and any weeb paraphernalia must be locked away in a safe location out sight
>the only acceptable hobbies a woman will tolerate is painting, playing a instrument (a guitar is apparently the best way to go according to my research)
>don't initiate sex right off the bat because she'll feel like a whore and will most likely leave, it's like literally putting a screw in a wall, you gotta be patient and stick with it
>if by chance you have sex and feel like you are cumming early you probably are and should slow down
Lastly
Don't respond instantly to any texts she may send you, 1 to 4 hours is fine (gotta give her room to fuck chad behind your back too)
Good luck robots and rememberif you're reading this it's not too late to turn back and avoid all of this shit
>>29937003
>be considerate to people, especially girls because I think girls are neat and I like seeing them happy
>especially girls
That's cuck territory - stay away!
>>29937195
You my friend, need to finish high school
>>29937098
Knew a chad at work who would post some autistic shit relating to either vidya or animu and all the roasties would come knocking
>>29937154
>>29937176
Look I don't fucking care if I'm as ripped as I'm gonna be in few months then it doesn't matter. They'll be attracted to me anyway and I can still be nice and sweet to them and make them feel special and maybe they'll hold my hand... o-oh boy
>>29937216
I am very much out of high school and living by myself in an apartment in a rad city.
I think you need to stop living with your mother and take responsibility for your life, kiddo.
>>29937110
Get over urself. You're not that great to date. If you want more than just friendship you got to have something significant to offer.
>>29937216
>>29937255
*middle school
oriigoa
>>29937176
>A disproportionately large amount do.
So why do they shame men from wanting sex with women
>>29937255
Ok anon, we need to restart this little disagreement of ours, because Nightcrawler was a rad movie.
So do you or do you not expect shit from contact with the opposite sex?
Fuck these whores I'm just going to keep working, saving, jacking off every night and then move to thailand or some other shithole and fuck 14 year olds. The game is rigged i refuse to play.
>>29937253
>he thinks muscles will get him anything other than respect from other gym bros
Oh boy, you have a bunch of bitter pills to swallow.
>>29937298
BASBHT
FBGM
>>29936977
actually I am a nice guy. did I say I didn't get 'shit' in return from girls? No you just assumed that
I get company and friendship in return. Are you saying sex is all you want from women???
>>29937013
exactly. whilst I won't lie, I'd be up for more than friendship with some female friends, with others it's me that's done the 'friendzoning'. And also what's to say some girl friends would be up for it but are as shy as me and also don't want to mess up the friendship?
>>29937049
I'm not straight either. maybe to be 'fully straight' it requires you to see girls as sexual objects alone, but I find that highly unlikely
>>29937135
I define as pansexual mainly because it makes the most sense - gender binaries being blurred in many cases (e.g. trans people)
>>29937209
Oh I don't want a gf. I had one once and I learned a valuable lesson from her.
All relationships will end. A few times there was a relationship that didn't end until one of them died, but such things aren't for people like me, who are destined to have it kinda shit mentally.
I want to promiscuously fuck man girls. I want to go and spend one of two nights with a girl and make her feel special and happy and cared for and then we never have to see each other again.
That way I can be validated because women will want to kiss me and look in my eyes, and I don't have to be hurt worse than any pain I've ever experienced
>>29937214
Fuck that. Whatever something-or-nothing had in mind when it crafted reality, it made the bare aspects of nature cold and hard and without love or compassion. I refuse to follow that willingly
>>29936829
>the opposite sex being attracted to you is suddenly a bad thing
What do you think people shouldbase attraction on? Inner beauty? Whatever the hell that means?
>>29937293
No I don't expect shit, not generally.
People are people, they can do their own things and want their own things. If I'm not what they want, no big deal.
The only thing I expect is for a girl not to be a huge cunt.
>>29937318
No dude. I've walked around outside with my friend who's built. Girls ogle the fuck out of him.
I'm not ugly, I'm at worst average looking.
Girls will want to touch my face and m-maybe they'll want to lay their head on my chest
>"genuinely" nice
Screw off with this mythic shit. Near everyone operates like this and there's nothing wrong with it. It's how bonds are formed.
The 'nice guys' may be misguided but they operate in the same way. No one is owed anything but don't act surprised they're human like you are.
>>29935902
i say nothing, women come to me
>>29937387
Ok then, but then if you have romantic feelings for a girl and then act like a cuck or she thinks you want to be her friend, that is what "being friendzoned" is
>>29937008
i think you're pretty cynical
>>29935902
>be insecure guy who acts nice in an atrempt to get women
>be insecure guy who acts mean in an attempt to get women
>be insecure
>expect to get women
>>29937454
>On r9k
>Criticizes people for being cynical
>And for speaking the truth about roasties
Why did you come? Weren't you happy at rheddit?
>>29937098
Don't know how old most people are here, but I'm a millenial with an Instagram, and I see girls posting shit about how she likes nerdy stuff, yet they wouldn't go out with me in a million years. I'm working to improve myself anyway though, but I'm worried I'll have to eventually spend on plastic surgery because working out hasn't revealed some secret epic jawline.
>>29937454
Nothing wrong with that. Better cynical than naive.
>>29936282
Only being nice to people without also doing things to make oneself sexually attractive is what makes nice people friends instead of boy/girlfriends I think.
>nice guy
>angry because "no pussy"
kekcellent meme norman
>>29937454
Ah, but calling every guy who moves on "twofaced" wasnt?
Sounds to me like you're just salty from being blow the fuck out.
>>29937495
this tbqhfamlolmfao
>>29937210
This is why prostitution should be legal.
>>29937010
>try to offer that to every single woman I've ever talk to more than 15 minutes with
>uhh you're like a brother to me
Every single time.
>>29935902
You're fake. You think women are retarded, but they're quite good at picking up on people's bullshit.
>>29937481
4chan is fantastic because it allows this type of discussion without constant accusations of misogyny
to be fair to you, it's stupid of me to expect more than cynicism from robots.
I just think you could benefit from being a bit more patrician with your analysis - you're all sounding super basic. like starter pack level.
>>29937431
Except it isn't, that's just being her friend. You go "oh well, more fish in the sea" and move on.
Being "in the friendzone" is where you desperately try and try to get in the girls pants, even though you know it could never happen.
I say the friendzone is a meme, because if you're in it, it's your own fucking fault for not moving on like a normal person.
>>29935902
Yes, nothing works for us. This is why we must retreat to a life of cynicism and plotting against normies.
We will defeat them, anon. In time they will pay.
>>29937569
Then why do they get played so often?
>>29937585
ah, but has no one ever fucked a girl or entered a relationship after being friends with her?
being nice is better than being a dick, all those people that are jerks realize they're jerks and when no one else is around they probably criticize themselves for it too.
>>29937582
>doesn't contribute, only criticizes
If we are a starter pack, you're a box full poor condition dupes.
>>29937585
>don't offer sex
>they lose interest
>offer sex
>they're disgusted
I've been friendzoned over 50 times in the past couple years. Can you normtards just accept that the majority women make exceptions for genetically unappealing men?
>>29937522
>who moves on
Heh yeah, there's that. I don't know if they realize that if we want to EVER get gf (or even just get laid), we have to allocate our (perhaps very limited) resources (time, energy, money) carefully. It kind of sucks. But that's often one of the errors robots commit; they can't just fucking move on.
>>29937638
I don't know how you're differentiating 'contribution' from 'criticism'
my contribution is a criticism, you basic ass bitch
also if you want something constructive, here's my take - try not caring as much about getting girls, it makes it much easier to pull them believe me
>>29937605
Yes, of course that's happened, but in my experience it usually involves being their friend first, and things escalate from there.
Cucks like you, again, are constantly trying to get in the girl's pants and this not-so-subtly gives off the impression that you don't want to be her friend, and are only in it for the false promise of a relationship/sex
>>29937657
You're literally retarded, and probably autistic. I don't think there is any hope for you
>>29937705
Ah the ad hom. Classic normie argument (or lack thereof).
>>29937595
Because the men are excellent liars. Schoppy was right: women don't value truth, they value deceit.
There's the problem with OP and many other robots: they're terrible liars and not able to buy their own bullshit.
>>29937551
Escorts are legal so there's that.It's amazing how easy it is to get around certain laws via loopholes like "Oh he's just paying to date me ;)"
>>29937723
>Ad hom meme
>Normie
You might be too autistic even for this board, anon.
>>29937695
Oh, well I thought we had a definition disagreement, thanks for clearing that up, I agree with you.
>>29937417
"Are you using this seat"
"n-no"
"Thanks"
>>29937692
Its so much easier to shit on something than to make it. Especially since your criticism isn't even fucking actionable. You basically posted "get gud" in so many words. But I'm sure you're smug as hell about your pile of shit post you just pushed out.
>try not caring as much about getting girls
What gave you the impression I even give a flying fuck? Stop felating your ego.
>>29937723
You just got fucking Moore'd mate
ad hominem wankerrrr
>>29937782
No prob broski. I hope you have a spectacular day.
>>29937210
While I disagree with your conclusion what you are saying is correct. This is coming from a man who currently has a girlfriend and has been with about 15 women all of which I had to do very little work to get into bed
>>29937772
you just can't accept people getting Moored m8
Rational argument ftw
>>29937828
you do the same m8
>>29937772
I've been here for 5 years straight. Fuck off normalshit
>>29937767
True, I was thinking starting with a massage parlor first. I could use an actual massage with "something extra."
>>29937811
Maybe my contribution wasn't actionable.
To be fair I was a bit smug, but I'm not anymore.
>>29937767
What if the escort makes you pay then doesn't fuck you? You can't really report her for it.
>>29937924
That's why you pay half now then half later or only pay later. If they don't do either then yeah you're just taking a risk.
>>29935902
ugly like a rancid swine
>>29937960
Makes sense, thanks anon.
>>29935946
Being nice doesn't mean you do things without reward. Being nice means you treat people with decency. If they will not love me, they will fear me.
>>29937017
I'm always told I'm very nice/sweet without asking
>>29938176
I'm just saying your post sounds like a delusional person wrote it.
just stop having any hope that you will meet a reasonable woman who makes you feel good
roasties are all filth and society's ongoing decay has merely legitimized and publicized their bullshit
NOT
EVEN
ONCE
jack off exercise get drunk meditate make money find something reasonable that won't rip your soul apart
>>29937098
I used to be fat and ugly. Roasties would call me weird for collecting fossilized skulls.
Now I'm fit and really handsome. The same type of girls now think its really 'interesting'. I'm an anthropologist btw.
>>29935946
Nah, Just pay attention when we talk to you little shit.
>>29935946
>tfw nice
>tfw go out of my way to help others and actively turn down rewards when they are offered to me
>tfw any form of praise drives me into a deep spiral of self-loathing
Am I broken?
>>29937010
>expecting a loving relationship in 2016
>with women
Choose one and only one.
>>29935902
>be nice and respectful towards others
>banter a lot if the opportunity arises
>tfw gf
>tfw people respect me as well
>tfw no doormat
Feels great to be non-american.
>>29939890
this desu
i like helping people and I hate getting stuff in return
then they think you are weird for not accepting a reward or whatever
and then they fucking INSIST so you have to get really shitty just so they leave you the fuck alone about it
>>29937017
not him but older women love me because i'm a 10/10 at being a good person
>>29936977
>No straight male should have girls that are "just friends".
i don't want to fuck her, and she doesn't want to fuck me
why do we hang out then?
>>29935946
>go on date with girl
>she's memeing on me
>nice the whole time
>offer to get her ice cream despite her being busy
>offer to walk her to the bus station
>>29939890
>>29940213
I can relate somewhat with those feels. I couldn't really get shitty, but it was difficult trying to avoid getting anything in return at times; it felt like if you get things in return, they might assume that's what I did it for while all I wanted to to was to be genuinely kind and helpful.
What helped for me was considering a different perspective: they genuinely want to be kind and helpful back to me, show their appreciation for whatever I did for them or whatever relationship we had (friendship, colleagues, etc.).
At times it's nicer to accept the offer than to decline it. As a lot of people prefer not to take advantage of others' kindness and efforts and instead want to show appreciation and/or reciprocate it, not being able to due to constant refusal to accept such attempts might make them feel like they are taking advantage of you anyway.
Imagine someone else constantly finding ways to help you out but never accepting anything in return - including help themselves as they seem to have everything covered. It can feel awkward after a while, being unable to reciprocate.
At times it's much better to accept the offer/reciprocation and show appreciation back for it, especially the smaller things.
I still can't accept grand gestures/offers, but ever since I started to do this some of my friends who are also kind people were visibly happy with me accepting their offers which in turn allowed them to accept mine again without feeling like they're dicks (even if they never were in my eyes).
>tfw any form of praise drives me into a deep spiral of self-loathing
I'm curious, what causes that? What makes you enter the spiral and what is the self-loathing about?
>>29940612
not him but i think i might be the same way and i can't explain it. i guess i see the people i help as overvaluing what I did? from my point of view i helped out the person because it was easy and it just makes me feel really fucking bad when they try and 'pay me back'
but my brain is pretty messed up and i might have some sort of hormonal or structural imbalance
Daily reminder that normies all believe in Just World fallacy and are unaware of the halo effect
If you're lonely or don't have a gf, it's probably because you're a horrible person and only ugly people can be horrible people
normies ACTUALLY BELIEVE that how attractive you are is indicative of your personal character
>>29935946
>I love it when a guy says he's "GENUINELY" being nice
>complaining
Nice bait, dude.
>being an asshole because you think it'll get you pussy instead of being an asshole because you genuinely enjoy it
this is why you fail senpai
>>29936977
>tfw considered nice by most whom I acquaint and all I befriend
>tfw female friends
>tfw too content with the single life
>tfw not desperate and wanting to fuck or gf all women I ever encounter and can get along with
On top of that there's such a thing as having enough good (personality) traits to be friendship material but not what it takes to be relationship material. Traits that make hanging out with someone quite enjoyable but with certain negative or neutral traits that would make a 24/7 living together very unenjoyable and likely causing annoyance and even resentment over a longer period of time.
It can be kind of comparable with how some guy friends are great to play games with or do specific activities, but would get exhausting quickly if you were to become roommates. That doesn't make the friendship any less enjoyable or "genuine" though.
On top of that there's a certain amount of physical attraction needed for a bf-gf relationship, without it it won't work unless both are actually asexual. Only the guy being physically attracted to the woman doesn't suffice, nor does attraction automatically mean you should fuck or become an item.
>>29936899
>When these whores are 40 and still single they'll realize what they have done.
That's the punchline. They will never realize this. Media will continue to cheerleader them into insanity at old age. Society will pretend they are equals and have no blame for what the fuck it's going to end up as. If anything, the friendzoned guys will go down in history with humiliation just how the Jews want it. The ride never ends.
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>>29940709
Maybe you hate debts and the bad feeling stems from humility and/or low self-esteem? I don't know, I get like that too.
I hate others being indebted to me as much as being indebted to others. Don't like seeing people force themselves if I can help it. When they say they'll owe me I wince, because part of me wants to hold them to their word.
>>29936829
Holy fucking shit i hate people like you, do you know why people are nice? do you know why niceness evolved? niceness has conditions attached to it innately, there is no such thing as genuine niceness, niceness evolved because creatures with genes that made them act "nice" to other animals and their close relatives were more likely to guarantee the expression of their genes in future generations, niceness would be among some of those genes, you are a biological machine composed of genes who's only "goal" is to make it into future generations, this means that the genes you have came from a long line of individuals who had genes that were good at finding themselves in future generations,creatures that had genes that made them act nice would have a greater chance of passing on their genes than those that didn't, there's a good reason most men aren't infertile, there's also a good reason people 'nice'.
>>29941052
Then there's a reason people are naughty too
>>29941052
people are nice* niceness wouldn't have evolved if there was nothing to be gained from it you bitch
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>>29941082
when did i ever say otherwise? fucking stupid cunt.
>>29938350
>Being this assmad
Maybe he's just a really nice guy that got mistreated. Quit fucking with the poor robot.
>>29936680
>want to try this
>realise I'm an autistic fucker and it would come across as cringey
>>29940709
Ah yes, I can relate with that.
As I use my own course of actions and effort it took as frame of reference as it's readily available to me, all I do seems to be average at best as I'm used to doing it, however supposedly difficult, impressive or noteworthy it is according to other people.
The only thing I can compare myself to is things skilled people do, which makes my perceived effort or quality of the results go even further down and thus making it even less worthy of being "paid back".
It's often the small things I can accept because of it, small simple gestures. No monetary things without me paying at least the same amount back later on (people buying me drinks for instance), rarely things that will take a notable amount of time or effort to obtain/give (read: what I perceive would probably take them a notable amount of time or effort).
Do you have this translate to your hobbies and work as well? Although I'm actually genuinely mediocre at most of my hobbies/interests, at work I'm apparently doing something right as I keep getting positive reactions from even those who don't give them often, yet to me what I do is piss easy and takes next to zero effort. It doesn't take any skill what so ever either, to boot.
>>29941013
I do hate debt indeed, more particularly me being indebted to others. I don't mind giving more than I'm receiving (within reasonable boundaries of course, I'm no doormat nor one only to be used for free stuff), but any time I'm given even slightly more than I gave to them I remember it to "settle the score" later on.
An acquaintance buys me a last round drink? I'll remember and do so the next time I see him/her even if that's months or half a year later.
>>29941119
Most people aren't being nice for an investment other than a bond they wish to have or strengthen.
The only kind of pervasive 2 handed niceness going on is the kike's passive aggressive shutdown of our women through law, media, corporations, and education. Constantly playing jingling xylophones and baby pianos with care free whistling or hooting in the background as they try to get you to sell your soul.
>>29940882
See pic related. It's top fucking kek my mane. Women have done this to themselves
>>29941221
>a bond they wish to have or strengthen.
>aren't being nice for an investment
I don't think you understand what these words mean in terms of biology.
>>29940848
Kind or mean, I think the key to life really is to just b urself, at least to an extent. If you're inept at something then you should improve in that aspect as much as you can.
>>29941250
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2263518/I-left-love-life-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html
I'm actually really glad she told her story and regrets, a lot of would-be cheating/ditching roasties realize that love isn't something you should throw after reading this.
