hey lets write the ten commandments of /r9k/
every suggestion that ends in 91 ( birthyear of the rodge )
12 ( his death year )
23 (birthday)
24 ( retribution/death day )
or is trips or higher will be eternally settled by grace of the rodge
here is my first suggestion
"thou shalt not dwell in this place as a nonvirgin"
sorry i confused the death and birth day its the other way around
this closeted cunt should have put on body mass instead of crying online
>>29898485
His death year was also 14, get it right lad.
Commandment one is to not be hostile to other robots who are our brothers
(not to say you shouldn't joke and argue, but real hostility on the basis of robothood is unacceptable.)
thou shalt offer all thy women to Chad
though should always sage cuckolding threads
Thou shalt Reeeeee three times before every meal.
Thou shall heed the call of the beta uprising
thou shall be a vain preening twink that judges others as shallow without any sense of irony
Thou shall check those numbers
>>29898472
>Thou shalt refer to non-robots as 'Normalfags' and not 'Normies'
you shall refer woman as gdhjsdglgdshjvnehfop35353555355365fhfn.2 if you do not you will instantly be banned from being a robot and will remain a normie all your life
women are superior to men
ugly people aren't real people
>>29898700
Thou shall not ignore dubs
>>29898877
And shall not ignore quads.
>>29898888
Uh guys wtf is going on here
>>29898888
oregano shut the fuck up niggers
>>29898888
>>29898877
>>29898700
OP here
this thread is truly blessed by the rodge
>>29898888
As you demand, St Elliot
>>29898700
>>29898877
>>29898888
Woah... I think someone broke the code.
>posts getting deleted
lads what's going on
Thou shalt spread misery and chaos for the normies wherever you can.
Christine Weston Chandler has fucked two girls and is still alive. Convert to the true paragon of gross shut in layabouts, repent the way of the jerk and embrace the CWCkening
>>29898472
Thou shalt not dodge the Rodge.
>>29898700
>>29898877
>>29898888
Lord KEK is with us today
>>29898472
robots must accept normies
>>29898472
-men want to be validated, to feel relevant, meritorious, worthy, responsible, like he says
-when men feel disconnected from reality, non-worthy, they think of suicide
-men understand that other men are just as pathetic as them
-therefore men cannot be validated by other men, but by something that is not male
-men want therefore to be validated by
--women
--higher men who do not feel the need to be validated
-higher men are rare
-women are not rare
-how to be validated, to be noticed by cumdumpsters?
-women are hedonistic, which means they are egotistic and what feeds their ego is their pleasures.
-therefore, to be noticed by women, men love to try to please women
-how to please tramps?
-women love sex and money
-women love to love sex and money
-- therefore men give them money and sex FOR FREE
-men understand then that other men give money and sex to the same woman.
-men understand that women LOVE to have plenty of lovers
-men understand that women DESPISE poor &/or ugly men SINCE those men cannot feed her hedonism
-most men remain unvalidated, unnoticed and whine >no gf
-women compete with other to get the best men
-most women always get what they want from men, even a solid decade after their menopause. EACH girl KNOWS that, in her life, there will ALWAYS be one man more dedicated to her than to any other girl.
-women want sex, as said, but equally to be entertained outside the bedroom (which cost money)
-the goal of the girl is to get the best man who will focus on her for a very long time
-no such man exists, so she will seek men who satisfy her through sex and other men who satisfy her through comfort
-men being worms, they build various strategies to provide for women
-men being worms, they attempt to avoid passing for worms in saying ''women are sluts and useless''
the fact is that women are smarter than worms, and worms despises this. they will say that any other woman which is not their /true one/wife-gf/oneitis is a whore out of bitterness.
>>29899022
>>29899111
check'd n' kek'd my brethrens
Be not faggots, for being a degenerate is worse than being a virgin.
>>29898877
>>29898888
what is this
(originelo)
>>29899157
kek, sauce?
originalbloxx
>>29898523
>>29898888
>>29898923
>>29899111
six commandments to go
Thou shalt not refer to women as anything but derogatory terms such as roastie
Thou shall give his oneitis to the biggest black man in his town.
Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes, for the prostitute reduces you to a loaf of bread, and the adulteress preys upon your very life
thou shalt reply extensivly to threads that involve le rodge
>>29898472
though shalt shitpost all robots relentlessly for their autistic views.
though shalt dine only on tendies procureth by a matronly figure
though shalt strive in all endeavors to earn thine allotted good boy points
>>29898888
QUADS FOR THE QUAD GOD
though shalt not orbit thine staceys
Thou shalt check these digits
THOU SHALL PRAISE KEK
OREGANO
>>29900000
Extremely noice
>>29900000
AWWJJEFGNKLEWS
>>29900000
>>29898888
>>29898877
ITT: modposting
>>29900000
God, she has spoken
Checked hard
posting in epic and -origina-l thread
>>29900000
>>29898888
>>29898877
>>29898700
the rodge is with us tonight
>>29900000
PRAISE OUR GODDESS
>>29898472
What the fuck is this thread? I really don't understand.
Thouwow or whatever shall cum into a gucci back in the mall
>>29900111
checked this original trips
>>29899297
>>29899888
>>29900000
>>29900111
three commandments to go
you shall piss away your lives
THREE
MORE
COMMANDMENTS
posting in great get-thread
non-virgins and those with a gf or friends or successful careers get out
same for those who were school bullies
>>29901890
MRW I lost my virginity at 15. Work in an office. Get drunk with all my buddies every weekend and at 25 still laugh about those dry faced losers on acne medication from high school. Like he looks like a monster why didn't he just wash his fucking face.
>>29901890
m-may I b-bully you, anon?
>>29900000
I bow to you oh great master. Please peg my ass hole.
>>29901890
re-roll for this post right here (chorus: right here)
>>29902111
ALL RIGHT
T W O
W
O
MORE
I'll try: thou shalt post the BUS at least once per day
>>29902124
>24
ONE MORE
ONE MORE COMMANDMENT
Who can get to decide it? Who is the absolute madman?
thou shalt read my twisted world
>>29902140
>inb4 a "not one more" joke
Kyle Odom was the prophet and a disciple, and ye, r9k shall heed his words.
>>29902215
thou shalt study works of murderous incels
thou will refer to fellow robots as brothers
>>29898532
reroll for this sincere commandment
>>29902232
Re Rolling for this. It was so close. Can't 2 3 2 count for 23?
Re gardless, I
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thou shalt study MTW (Mine Twistedeth Worlde) and manufacture St. Elliot OC (Originale Contente)
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF /R9K/:
>>29898523 >>29898888
>>29898923 >>29899111
>>29899888 >>29900000
>>29900111 >>29902111
>>29902124 >>29902291
1. This closeted cunt should have put on body mass instead of crying online.
2. Thou shall not ignore dubs and shall not ignore quads.
3. This thread is truly blessed by the Rodge.
4. Thou shalt not dodge the Rodge.
5. Thou shalt dine only on tendies procureth by a matronly figure.
6. Thou shalt check these digits.
7. Praise our goddess.
8. Non-virgins and those with a girlfriend or friends or successful careers get out. Same for those who were school bullies.
9. Thou shalt post the BUS at least once per day.
10. Thou shalt study MTW and manufacture St. Elliot OC.
>>29898472
Thou must abandoned 4chan all together and leave to wizardchan
>>29898472
Thou shall forget Elliot Rodger and aim to better things in life
>>29902818
The commandments are all etched in the stone post now.You can't change them!Begone normalfag!
We should start a religion based of the teachings of Elliot Rodger. My twisted world will be our holy book.
>>29902403
OP here
i feel like 1 and 3 are not really commandments and i would suggests searching for 2 substitutions
what do you think guys ?
>>29903125
no, the numbers speak, if you wanted to write your own you should have
interpret them as commandments or get thee to a cuckery
>>29898789
xD
original
>>29898472
>MUH SECRET CLUB RULES
seriously fuck off, if this kicks off like another shitty dumb meme it's only prove how much fucking normies are on this board
>>29898700
>>29898877
>>29898888
>>29899111
>>29899888
>>29900000
Praise the lord kek.
>>29903125
Thou shalt accept the shitty genes thou hast been given or go out in style.
>>29903125
Thou shalt accepteth the shitty genes thou hast been given or elsewise goeth out in style.
>>29903125
I posted that list and in my opinion we can substitute commandments 1 and 3.
>>29903751
okay
rerolling for this familia >>29898532
jtrtodyut
Jerrymandering faggots
HERESY
blease robots we need two more commandments
"thou shalt defend /r9k/ in arguments with normies"
Thou shalt think of the Supreme Gentleman daily.
Thou shalt think of the Supreme Gentleman daily.
Yes.
this is another lonely virgin's words but please:
don't follow your dreams or goals or any of that shit, follow your fucking animal instincts. it is moves, kill it, if it doesn't, burn it.
>>29904525
*if it moves
reroll i guess, since i fucked up anyway
Thou shalt not post /r9k/ memes outside /r9k/.
Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/.
>>29899151
At what point did men become worms in your model?
What makes a higher man who 'does not need to be validated'?
It just seems like you are fabricating a snowflake 'type' that you can continue to admire and want to emulate without feeling like a catamite.
What makes a 'higher man' is already having been validated, no further validation is required afterwards, but that doesn't mean that he's not a 'worm' who requires the acceptance and society of others.
All in all, just a, sneering, faux-worldly diatribe.
>>29904525
Those aren't animal instincts. Animals socialise, mate and engage in dominance/submission based relationships.
These are civilised thoughts of civilised people, sickened and made mad by whatever it is that pains them.
Thou shalt pursue wizardhood.
Triadic Commandments for Actual Humanity
1. Sove et coagula
2. No Birth; No Death; No Coming; No Going.
3. Praise KEK - Behead All Satans
Thou shalt remain virgin.
Thou shalt never forget the Supreme Gentleman.
>>29904738
>These are civilised thoughts of civilised people, sickened and made mad by whatever it is that pains them.
what is your point? this is supposed to be r9k commandments. if there is anyone on the planet who is sickened by what pains them, it's the people here.
your pretentiousness is off-putting. my pain is valid.
>>29905005
re to the roll
this is important
fuck tha poleece
>>29905091
ONE MORE
I'll try.
Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/ (unless meme was created with another board) and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
>>29905192
OFFBYONE KENOBI STRIKES AGAIN
reroll
Nothing can go wrong this time.
Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/ (unless the meme was created together with another board) and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
>>29905226
>26
>could have been 222, 23 or 24
>still lands off by 2
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
HOW CAN ONE MAN FAIL SO HARD
Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/ (unless the meme was created together with another board) while also pursuing wizardhood and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
>>29905290
>off by one
ONE LAST ATTEMPT
>>29905322
and off by one again
roll
MEME HARD AND SMASH THE ENEMY
>>29905080
I'm not contradicting you, nor am I being pretentious, I'm more comfortable wording my posts like this than putting effort into affecting detachment.
My point is that your response is not some crude, unthinking animal reaction to your surroundings, like a trapped rat, its more like a reasoned conclusion determined by experience, like a rat that deliberates and decides to kill its children to save them the pain of living as vermin.
I'm not saying your thoughts are invalid, I'm saying they are more valid than those of the people who act on the real animal instinct of continuing to make do and coast through life like a fucking farm animal, and who would tell you 'not to think so much' about it.
>>29905322
>a little bit off, as always, meaning that you lose
reminds me of rodge
>>29905368
Another commandment: Almost.
>>29905333
>333
>trips
FINALLY
I guess we can all agree now that
>Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/ (unless the meme was created together with another board) while also pursuing wizardhood and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
is an official commandment now.
>>29905333
and this time you would have been successful
"All of these commandments may be disregarded, except this one."
>>29905429
>Commandment of Kek
>Contain memes to one grubby corner of the internet.
Falsehood. The memes must spread and impose themselves on the lives of infidels.
As Rodge did, as did the plane crash, as the Trump rises from the deep.
When they call out 'no more memes!' we'll reply 'the choice was never yours to make'.
Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/ (unless the meme was created together with another board) while also pursuing wizardhood and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
>>29905429
this a bit of a stretch to validate all of these commandments from one trips post that wasnt even a commandment suggestion
>>29905491
well played pal
You shall not covet the normies' stacy
>>29905490
We can still co-operate with other boards (/pol/, /tv/, /fit/, [s4s]) and spread memes that were born as a result of this co-operation. The containment rule only applies to /r9k/-only memes.
>>29905503
I agree.
>>29905528
kek
>>29905367
i'll point out that those aren't my words because i can't tell if you think they are or not. they're not even really my thoughts though i agree with the sentiment.
it doesn't sound like you believe it's a reasoned conclusion since you say that it comes out of sickness, madness or pain. i think they come out of nearly complete clarity that follows when a person detaches from the humanity that controls them.
i don't value the "civilized" though. a person gains nothing through civilization and loses everything authentic about who they are. there is no connection between individual thought and being civilized. being civilized means doing what is in the best interest of society at large instead of doing what is in your own best interest. that's why i can agree that instincts are superior and the process of becoming civilized is a soul-crushing endeavor.
rodger and the rest were crushed and confused by society and now they will forever be seen as monsters. i don't think it's right.
>>29905536
>We can still co-operate with other boards (/pol/, /tv/, /fit/, [s4s]) and spread memes created as a result. The containment rule is only limited to /r9k/-only memes.
Too legalistic. We just meme. /pol/ memes infinitely, and their memes are strong.
If we want to spread robot thought and introduce neonates to the methods of worship then all thought of restriction must be banished - our memes must be aggressive enough to, as I said, distort other people rather than being distorted by them.
Pepe was bastardised and distorted because he was a kind meme for all humanity. He died for that. The new memes must be aggressive and confusing, mysteries to the uninitiated.
Thou salt exterminate the normies that taint our holy land
>>29902403
THE NEW TEN COMMANDMENTS OF /R9K/:
>>29905091 >>29898888
>>29905491 >>29899111
>>29899888 >>29900000
>>29900111 >>29902111
>>29902124 >>29902291
1. Thou shalt never forget the Supreme Gentleman.
2. Thou shall not ignore dubs and shall not ignore quads.
3. Thou shalt keep /r9k/ memes on /r9k/ (unless the meme was created together with another board) while also pursuing wizardhood and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
4. Thou shalt not dodge the Rodge.
5. Thou shalt dine only on tendies procureth by a matronly figure.
6. Thou shalt check these digits.
7. Praise our goddess.
8. Non-virgins and those with a girlfriend or friends or successful careers get out. Same for those who were school bullies.
9. Thou shalt post the BUS at least once per day.
10. Thou shalt study MTW and manufacture St. Elliot OC.
>>29905603
>distort other people rather than being distorted by them.
i can get behind this
>>29905573
>it doesn't sound like you believe it's a reasoned conclusion since you say that it comes out of sickness, madness or pain.
All of which can be reasoned responses to conditions of life which foster these things. That someone is sick, mad or in pain does not necessarily make them wrong, in fact it may be the essence of their rightness.
>i don't value the "civilized" though. a person gains nothing through civilization and loses everything authentic about who they are.
You only think so as a civilised man imagining barbarism. You are projecting all that is lacking in your civilised life onto a fantastical barbaric one.
What you gain from civilisation is perspective enough to decide what needs to be changed and what needs to be erased.
>between individual thought and being civilized
Good. A wrong individual thought is not better than a correct one read out of someone else's book.
The fetishism of the self is part of normie culture, robots who have been reared to believe that their self is inadequate ought to understand that.
Ego is a 'spook'. No birth no death no coming no going.
>rodger and the rest were crushed and confused by society and now they will forever be seen as monsters. i don't think it's right
Then impose correct morality and correct justice.
is anybody interested in writing a bible for the religion of elliot rodger ?
of course MTW is one of the main texts but every robot who is interested could contribute a fictional story or a nonfictional text that reflects our mentality
>>29905920
That's actually a good idea buddies
>>29905636
> Thou shalt never forget the Supreme Gentleman.
> Thou shalt ... [be] pursuing wizardhood and not be hostile to your fellow robots.
Even ER didn't pursue wizardhood. It's just something that you accept and live with if you have no other choices. It's an okay for a time before the tendies and NEET years expire. I no longer even see myself as a sexual being. My dick exists for two fluid releases. I never actively pursued dates, but somehow thought it would magically just come to me via some conversation with a colleague or friend. Well I never had friends or colleagues, and didn't go to church, but was too temperant to go to bars.
>>29905920
We could collect the stories of the suffering robots from before the founding under the the title 'Acts of the Martyrs'.
See pic for examples.
>>29905959
i will start making casual text contribution threads in the next days and weeks in which we can discuss written texts or general ideas about the topic
>>29906128
nice idea pal
>>29906172
>le snarky man
Organic waste.
>>29905904
i understand why you say what you say because i used to hold out hope but i have come to believe that you're wrong.
>That someone is sick, mad or in pain does not necessarily make them wrong,
you say that my beliefs are reasoned but are still wrong. what is right?
>to decide what needs to be changed and what needs to be erased.
except the true non-conformist, the individualist and the person that suffers, will never change anything. we are too alone and strength only comes in numbers. i no longer concern myself with the good of society because society has never concerned itself with what is best for me or any other citizen. society is dictated by the current fads in morality. there is no inherent truth of ethical righteousness beyond what we have been indoctrinated to believe. to preserve the happiness and comfort of those who are willing to conform. it's a sick reality.
>A wrong individual thought is not better than a correct one read out of someone else's book.
don't you see that there is no correct thought? any thought an individual has can be correct in the appropriate context as long as it is based on true experience and fact, as you have acknowledged. should i abandon my belief because you have called it wrong?we spend our lives in cognitive dissonance, trying to rationalize exactly why we act the way we do when we gain nothing from it (and why we say we believe something and then refuse to stand up for it). the truth is that there is no objective truth. there is only what benefits the masses and that is what people consider to be right. but what if it doesn't benefit me? is it wrong to reject this? society is founded on hypocrisy and it destroys or ignores those who refuse to be hypocrites.
>Then impose correct morality and correct justice.
how do you define correct morality and correct justice without resorting to subjective experience of the world? what is "real" outside of the individual?
>>29906306
sorry i honestly did not intend to sound snarky
i just wanted to express endorsement but was too lazy to type a longer response
>>29906540
>you say that my beliefs are reasoned but are still wrong. what is right?
Your conclusion is correct.
>except the true non-conformist, the individualist
These two will never change anything, they don't want to. They lie to themselves and pretend to be self-contained units, totally satisfied petty Buddhas, pretending they are insulated, that they can 'refuse' at their own discretion.
Nothing has ever been changed without the sufferers, who are more numerous than rats and more vicious in their way.
>i no longer concern myself with the good of society because society has never concerned itself with what is best for me or any other citizen
Only disgusting liars and petty Satans peddle the myth that formal society (the state and its institutions) exists for the benefit of 'all' - children are the only ones who think that all interests can be reconciled. 'Society' and its slaves operates for the benefit of the big Satans, robots and the sufferers more generally see this, but the latter fixate on the big Satans and forget the little ones.
Behead a little Satan and a small one grows like mold and fits into his place.
Robots are quite numerous, regarded broadly. Memes will narrow that breadth.
>society is dictated by the current fads in morality. there is no inherent truth of ethical righteousness beyond what we have been indoctrinated to believe. to preserve the happiness and comfort of those who are willing to conform. it's a sick reality.
So we force a new one.
SOLVE ET COAGULA - it thins and thickens, everything must be destroyed before it can be built up. No birth no death - there is no value, nor worth, there is no more or less. Behead all Satans - those who peddle the lies and their idols, like homo oregonensis once did.
[cont]
>>29906540
>don't you see that there is no correct thought? any thought an individual has can be correct in the appropriate context as long as it is based on true experience and fact, as you have acknowledged. should i abandon my belief because you have called it wrong?
You accept that we are indoctrinated, then presume to know your own benefit?
Metaphysics are not needed. The context is our lives. If you treat your own life as some dead hypothetical then you really are an individualist, living only in his head (as intended).
The thought is correct 'in context' - it entails that we write the rules for the slaves now, we assess their worth by our own measure, not those of Satans. That our success is their success.
If you waste yourself on immediate, personal benefit whilst living in a glorified pig pen built for you by others, achieving in a system you had no say in establishing, judging your success by another's measure, talking about 'your benefit' as though there even is a substantial you in this current society, then you will be more of a hypocrite than all the rest, because you sacrifice your real interest for sleep, while languishing in captivity as a prisoner of slaves.
There are collective interests common to all robots and all automatons. Find your personal benefit once you exist as a person.
>society is founded on hypocrisy and it destroys or ignores those who refuse to be hypocrites
Society is founded and owned by the big Satans, if you believe you have any interest in common with them, you are wrong. There is no contradiction in their actions, you are asking your enemies to consider your feelings.
[cont.]
>>29898888
PRAISE UPON THEE KEK
>>29898888
DGSAFGHERYHEUY RTGERYE
>>29898472
Elliot was a faggot and his shooting wasn't even good. Half the people he killed were beta chinks. Columbine was much more successful.
>>29898700
>>29898877
>>29898888
>>29898988
>>29899022
>>29899111
>>29899655
>>29899888
>>29900000
>>29900111
>>29902111
>>29902244
>>29903211
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>>29904399
>>29905322
>>29905333
>>29906866
>>29907188
BASKING IN THE GLORY OF LORD KEK, THIS TRULY IS A BLESSED THREAD
>>29907291
>Columbine was much more successful.
only double. ask cho or lanza about successful.
>>29898888
>>29898877
>>29898700
Checked
origninaldfasd
>>29907185
>how do you define correct morality and correct justice without resorting to subjective experience of the world? what is "real" outside of the individual?
The physical world is real outside of the individual. The individual is not real. What you think of having no friends, no money, etc. is meaningless, what matters is that you have nothing.
Likewise, claiming that there is no correct justice matters only to you - you will still be tried by correct (current) justice.
What is correct is what corresponds with actual life and not its mockery, the 'inner life' of the 'individual', the neurotic pit where a life of captivity and frustration simmers, the home of delusion, the seat of Satanist abstractions like objective justice, objective morality, objective truth, the self, etc.
The one thing that has no substance, the individual, is what you regard as the only reality, that's a Satanic delusion if ever there was one, its the repose of a man in agony, to turn in on himself. What is real is what is substantial, and what is substantial is made of objects and actions.
The society that benefits you is the one you make yourself, and I say that given a long enough timespan, we can.
This is all very confused and probably contradictory, but its dynamism is correct, as is its violence and its urgency and its call to relentless externalism.
>>29906866
>>29898700
>>29898877
>>29898888
>>29898988
>>29899022
>>29899111
>>29899655
>>29899888
>>29900000
>>29900111
>>29902111
>>29903211
>>29904388
>>29904399
>>29905322
>>29905333
>>29907188
BLESSED BE THY DIGITS, O HOLY BRETHREN
indictus originalus
Thou shalt know the time and the number
Thou shalt keep the numbers of the Most High
Thou shalt blaspheme against false idols
Thou shalt honour His numbers' repetition.
Make sure to include me in the /r/4chan post.
>Thou shalt sexually torture a normie girl in the WH40k setting on a farm on an ancient Agri-World!
>>29907755
THOU SHALL NOT BE FOND OF REDDIT
>>29907755
If I get dubs this is now a Warhammer erotica thread
please keep this thread alive we need more of the gets
>>29907370
>The society that benefits you is the one you make yourself, and I say that given a long enough timespan, we can.
how?
i'd like to believe this to be true but how?
>The one thing that has no substance, the individual, is what you regard as the only reality
i don't regard it as the only reality. i just think that if there's no ultimate reality, no objective truth or purpose then the individual reality is as valid as the rest. and if the "other" reality doesn't do anything for you (and actually destroys you) then there's no use engaging with it.
>you will still be tried by correct (current) justice.
not if you don't allow yourself to be subjected to outside justice.
>The physical world is real outside of the individual. The individual is not real.
you can't have it both ways. both are real or neither is. in either case, the only way to judge the truth is based on personal experience unless you can come up with an objective measure of goodness.
>a Satanic delusion
i really don't like charged language like this that triggers a lifetime of brainwashing in the average person
i am having a hard time with you saying that the individual has no substance, isn't real, is delusion. why?
>What is real is what is substantial, and what is substantial is made of objects and actions.
beliefs lead to actions, so the individual is very real and substantial. i'm trying to say that inherent meaning/morality doesn't exist.
(i read everything you wrote, even if i only responded to the last part. i've enjoyed the discussion even if i disagree. i'm getting kind of tired and it takes too much effort to respond so i don't know if i will have much more to say. i do very much want to know the answer you have for my first question though. i'd like to believe there is hope for the outcast, even if i sound a bit nihilistic. i'm not a person who believes i definitely have it all figured out yet and i talk about these things sometimes in a effort to clarify and gain perspective.)
>>29908025
>how?
A combination of hard memeing and, I hate to say it, getting together outside of /r9k/, but with a specific goal in mind, under an agreed upon name (wierdo, creep, robot, loser, failure, it all means the same thing - human refuse). It would require a lot of robots in a lot of different cities to even get started.
I'm not talking about killing people, I'm talking about making the leap from being a group in itself (ansich) to associating as a group 'for itself' (vorsich). In Japan, a bunch of hikkis and NEETs organised as a small group and did open protests - we can't do such things openly because the slaves, the normies, are trained to hate us as alien and hostile elements, rather than as a manifestation of all their worst fears for their own lives, the direction we are all headed in.
Changing their minds is what the memes are for. We shill memes, we slide, we use the memes to communicate what we can never say, we already do. Before it was bastardised, that feel was an ikon channeling the indescribable feeling of loss and absence common to us all, but it was too early, and all that potential was squandered on light humour. That feel was part of making us conscious of a shared situation, even if we didn't see it at the time.
I see these new aggressive memes popping up every now and then, pic related is my favourite. A petty Satan can't relate to it in any way, it attacks them, they are the narrator.
Someone with robotic tendencies, failed and precarious normies, will relate in part.
The hardest part is the first hundred people.
>>29908480
well friend. i've been talking about a community for outcasts for a long time. i don't even necessarily want a revolutionary community, just a safe place to live out my life with like-minded people. i'm sure a lot of other people have had the same idea. it just never actually happens. maybe because we already have 4chan and that's more comfy than real change.
there's also the reality that despite our outcast status, we are frequently outcasts for different reasons and have different beliefs and ideas of what is right or what should be. it's hard to preach freedom of expression and freedom of "being" when you're telling someone else what to believe. it's why i have decided there's no real answer to any of this.
i think you are correct that the right memes could possibly change minds but the power of a meme depends on its relatability. that is the inherent problem here. there are filipino memes that don't make it to america because we can't relate. a meme can only propagate as far as people can understand it.
personally, i think the world is too far gone. it won't be gone forever but it will undergo radical decay and reconstruction before it ever resembles anything worthwhile again. the values are too warped and the powers that be have too much control.
i have given up and i will end up where i end up now, likely all alone. i wish you luck though and if you ever get that group going while i'm still around, maybe i'll try getting involved.
maybe i'll see ya in the next elliot thread.
>>29908025
>i just think that if there's no ultimate reality, no objective truth or purpose then the individual reality is as valid as the rest.
There is no ultimate as in final reality, because the exterior world is subject to constant change. Nothing is stable, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Solve et coagula - it dissolves and comes together.
I agree that we are bound to individual perspectives, but we can't help but interact with the perspectives of others, absorb them, distort and reshape them, we don' have a choice.
But I think that any identifiable group has to set down an agreed upon reality, to then contradict, reintegrate and change through direct experience with the infinitely changeable, elusive external reality.
>not if you don't allow yourself to be subjected to outside justice.
Force is needed, so others are needed.
>you can't have it both ways. both are real or neither is.
The individual is a constructed persona we maintain even within our own heads. It is an element of ideology. When we suffer, we escape into our 'individuality', our inner life, which appears in the case of robots to be a huge source of pain and anguish. The idea of potential unrealised, of the bounty of ourselves, torments them with visions of a better life they could have had.
When we are children, or at least those of us in the west, we were told to search for our own happiness, and to be ourselves. We were forced to decide who we were, lacking any experience or foreknowledge, with so many messages, lessons, morals transmitted by various media as well as other people.
A self-image is constructed to which we then aspire. Robots suffer not only material and social lack, but the contradiction between self-image and actuality. Either they invert and adopt a ridiculously negative self-image or they go the more promising direction and dispense with it entirely, and become a proper robot.
Individuality is a mental crutch.
>>29908025
>i really don't like charged language like this that triggers a lifetime of brainwashing in the average person
You can't be cowed into abstaining from this language, its your birthright as a speaking person. Use it yourself and become familiar with it and give it your own intonation. Maybe I'm a bit too familiar with it.
I don't know about you, but I was told all my life that I was supposed to cloak my intentions in mild language - this is why I say 'this is correct' rather than 'I think'. Its obvious its what I think, I am the one speaking, but consider that we repeat this signal of humility 'I think' every time we speak.
Satans, whores, slaves and animals - I use this language because it is incredibly pompous, totally bombastic and inappropriate for someone in my position.
>beliefs lead to actions, so the individual is very real and substantial. i'm trying to say that inherent meaning/morality doesn't exist.
The individual is not what believes, the individual is an article of belief. There was a you before you, you know.
The belief may have substance if it is acted upon, if not it remains purely hypothetical. Its existence is confirmed once it is enacted, beforehand it is 100% open to argument.
As for meaning and morality, they are much like individuality. Ephemeral.
Well that took a while. Cheers for reading up till now, again if you are still around to finish this.
>>29908728
>there's also the reality that despite our outcast status, we are frequently outcasts for different reasons and have different beliefs and ideas of what is right or what should be. it's hard to preach freedom of expression and freedom of "being" when you're telling someone else what to believe. it's why i have decided there's no real answer to any of this.
I tell you what I believe in the hope that you will accept it as concurring with your own experience. If I was trying to force you to believe, I would never give you that opportunity. The people who want to make you believe will never give you the chance to reply to them.
More often than not they enforce their perspective through a very verbose silence.
We argue amongst ourselves in freedom, openly hating one another and using the most charged language, they are painfully mild and conciliatory. We batter one another with the things we are more sensitive to, and are daily confronted with what we are, they pussyfoot around it and substitute pity for disdain, on the surface at least.
>i have given up and i will end up where i end up now, likely all alone. i wish you luck though and if you ever get that group going while i'm still around, maybe i'll try getting involved.
Stay alive mate. Our work remains unfinished.
