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WHY IS SO FUCKING HARD TO GET A JOB
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WHY IS SO FUCKING HARD TO GET A JOB
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Because you don't know anyone.
Real Talk.
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>You need a job to get experience
>You need experience to get a job

Wow it's like they want me to be a NEET.
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Because there's usually at least 20 other people trying to get hired at the same fucking time

Oh well, at least I'm not in buttfuck Brazil
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>>29896463

>20

More like 200.

>look up job listing
>viewed 500 times
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>apply for 20 jobs a day
>haven't recieved anything back

What the fuck am I doing wrong?
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>>29896551
this 2bh. I've applied at like 10 different restaurants and convenience stores and none of them have replied.
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>>29896642

WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD
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>>29896424
Hordes of experienced people willing to work for peanuts, hordes of inexperienced people willing to work for peanuts, immigrants, lack of charisma/social skills, lack of connections
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>apply to the lowest of the low, below minimum wage, menial labour job
>"sorry we're looking for candidates more qualified for the position"

JUST
U
S
T
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>>29896424
Because we allow low skill workers to immigrate when we have a surplus of labor.
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>>29896659
>lack of connections
Didn't need to type anything else t b h
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>be myself (seriously fuck this muting bullshit)
>spend some of my free time (which I have alot of lel) doing charity work (things like meals on wheels) with a local organisation in my area
>one day some old bloke turns up as im loading my car up
>i mention to him that im going through the process atm of looking for professional work, it is really really hard
>he says that "back in my day, none of that existed. There were no interviews. If you heard about or saw a job advertisement, you just turned up and they gave you the job"
>mfw

RRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCK THE CURRENT YEAR+1
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>>29896810
>he says that "back in my day, none of that existed. There were no interviews. If you heard about or saw a job advertisement, you just turned up and they gave you the job"

Back in the 70s there were like half as many people on the planet as now.
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>>29896482
Just becasue it's viewed doesn't mean that want it

>>29896551
Maybe your CV is too cluttered and messy. These people don't properly read CVs so need to streamline it
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>>29896851
It's so fucked up to realize there are double the number of humans that existed when my father was born
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>>29896424
Since when do jobs like Target and fucking Walmart drug test? Over half the people that shop there are fucking drug users!
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>literal drug users and dregs can get jobs but I can't

What the fuck am I doing wrong?
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>>29896424
Because a lot of other people are trying to get jobs which creates competition
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>qt notices I'm depressed
>tries to get me job
>don't get it
She's cool, but she's out of my league.
I've been filling out applications, calling, even stopping by the places. It's been since may.
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>>29897145
Where are they hiring druggies? TELL ME ANON!
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>>29897145
The world hates robots so much.
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>live in a country with a high number of immigrants and foreign exchange students
>can't get a job

LMAO JUST LMAO
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>>29897145
This. Some friends I had in high school are now drug abusers who also do weed and they have jobs and I'm still a fucking NEET. What the fuck, man...
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>>29897145
guarantee they know somebody to get that job.
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>>29897163

Any basic retail store like Target. Yet when I apply I don't even get a call back. What the FUCK is going on?
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>>29897172
>>29897174

Pretty much.

>Hey this is my cousin Trayvon, he's a hard worker can you get him that cashier position.
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>>29897169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3VvQxboeLo


also when the media says that these people are doing jobs nobody else wants to do... i refuse to believe that. they took our jobs!
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>>29897145
Drug users are social as fuck. Back when I smoked weed everyone talked to me, I knew everybody, everybody made sense. Then I graduated high school and got bored of weed, now I'm a stupid NEET.

My point is do drugs and you might become more social since you need to know someone more social than you who sells and does drugs. Weed stores in my city are filled with super friendly people.
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>>29897231
Robots dont belong in this world...
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IF SOCIETY DOESN'T WANT ME TO WORK THEN FINE ILL JUST NEET IT UP FUCK YOU
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Lack of connections 100%. The only job I've had in my life is because a family friend got me hired. Trying to get a job on craigslist I don't even get responses for entry level positions for low pay. I think as I grow older my only hope to make it anywhere in life is to create something myself of value and sell it myself. Even this would be easier with friends and connections but I'm unkown to the world at this point.
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>>29897192
it's easy to get a job if you don't care what you do. next summer i'm landscaping.
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>Apply for job
> Ok you passed your interview
> Now all we need are 3 references , they cant be family related.
> mfw
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>>29896703
R A C I S T
A
C
I
S
T
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>>29896455
What about volunteering??
I'm currently volunteering have been since March, most of it was training and waiting around for placements, only done like 10 days in 4 months but on paper its 4 months work experience and great for jobbers.
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>>29896851
back in the 70s the government didn't have to lie abt the unemployment rate
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please... i just want to work... i need money... please... ....
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>>29897231
Yep. Drugs and the party scene in general are basically a huge social network. So many people get by just being supported by friends partying all the time and then end up either getting a job from connections or some other way to make money. For example people party all the time and then become social media famous for posting lictures of their cool parties, then start a "clothing line" which is just screen printed t shirts for $60 each and all their followers buy them. Or people party in college and then end up working with or getting jobs from all the people they partied with, meanwhile the nerd who stayed at home and studied is unemployed.
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>>29896482
doesn't mean 500 more suitable applicants have applied.. at least apply
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>>29897349
>literal slavery

lmao I'll be a NEET my whole life before I do that
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>>29897367
FUCK THIS GENERIC AND WELLMEANING ADVICE
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>>29897366

IT'S NOT FAIR WHY IS NEPOTISM THE ONLY WAY TO GET A JOB NOW FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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So anon why do you want to work for us?

Because i need money you stupid fucks, do you think i want to be working? Why the fuck do they ask us this? REEEEEEE
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>>29897367

I DID APPLY BUT NOTHING HAPPENED RRREEEEEEEE
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>>29897374
volunteering on the off chance you will have a job for the hours upon hours spent doing free work.
yeah no thanks.
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work as tech support at cable company

they always looking
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>>29897394
do something fun, keep expectations low
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>>29897394
Not an off chance, you'll be far more likely to be considered for roles than doing nothing or at least make up some volunteer work on your cv to fill gaps, use a friend as a reference.
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>>29897328
I soubt you will prosper in that business competing with immigrants. They will work crazy hours like slaves for dirt cheap, a lot of people won't even hire American workers any more because they simply won't work as hard without breaks or without complaint. There is literally no advantage for an employer to hire some white nerd for an unskilled labor job that requires no intelligence over some guy who can't really speak English but is used to working in the sun for 8 hours without a break.
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>>29897425
>use a friend

:^)
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>walk into store
>they have a literal chinese guy working who can barely speak english and took 10 minutes to process what I was looking for
>this guy has a job and I can't find one for shit

Wow
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The problem is that you are all entitled fucks not wanting to get their hands dirty. Dont go looking around for something in retail or a comfortable white collar job. Go to trade school, become an apprentice or do whatever one needs to do to become a tradesman in your country.
I had no problems finding a shitty job in a lumbermill when I was 14 and work my ass off while also going to school.
By the time I was 17 I got another job paying more than minimum wage with literally zero education.

>inb4 hurt durr babyboomer
>I was born in 96
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>>29897438
Or literally any human being that's not you. I have one friend and they give me references like i worked for them
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JUST
GIVE
ME
A
FUCKING
JOB
PLEASE
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>>29897444
>hurr durr go to trade school

I hope you have a lot of savings in your budget because working a trade you can suddenly end up without work for months at a time
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>>29897444
>when i was 14
you can't work at 14 in my country anon
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>dishwashing job
>manager is a huge dick
>chef is a huge dick too
>literally loads of dishes incoming
>6 hour job
>also have to clean the entire place before closing
>get fired after my first day
>they hire an immigrant the day after
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>>29897430
wrong anon, construction and landscaping down south controlled by the beaner mafia.
good job i live in new england.
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>>29897474
Who said that I was a freelancer?
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>>29897482
they just want someone they can abuse anon.
immigrant no speak engrish, can't talk back.
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because you're all losers with no passion who grew up on 4chan instead of learning to love something
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>Apply to grocery store job
>Told to come in to interview
>Mom already works there so figure I am guaranteed a job
>The fucking manager is out, get interviewed by the assistant manager who I don't even think has the authority to hire people
>He runs around the store for like 15 minutes and makes me wait, then talks to me for maybe 3 or 4 minutes just to say "Sorry, we don't have any spots"
>Fuck you man, but still shake his hand and leave
>Get invited back for another interview by the actual manager
>Already got another shit job at a pharmacy
>Just figured out the grocery store starts everyone at $10 and hour and I make $7.25 at my current job
It wouldn't be so fucking bad if managers weren't such fucking assholes. Don't waste my damn time by """inviting""" me in for an interview when you're not even going to fucking be there. God I hate the fuckers, they literally don't give a fuck about your time.
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>>29897578
>$7.25

jesus fucking christ america is a shithole

the minimum wage here is 15
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>>29897596
BUT THE JOBCREATORS
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>NEET 6 years
>brother hires me to do pisseasy job where all i do is open doors

a lot of it is luck boi
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>>29897596
Well your currency might be trash compared to ours. Also, I live in Louisiana, the cost of living here is pretty low. Even gas prices are low since we have oil companies all over the place here.

The minimum wage here is $7.25, but most places pay above that except in big cities and liberal states, which tend to have higher minimum wage anyway, but they also have higher costs of living on account of them being liberal states wit taxes out of the ass and being big cities. Basically my point is $7.25 is livable here, but most places pay above that since they can. Liberal states are usually terrible for poor people that have to for wageslave jobs their entire life, that is why the whole "Fight for $15" thing is bullshit.
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>>29897596
they do this kind of stuff on purpose, i had same experience applying for a kiosk

first they tell you that its very unlikely you will work there, second they tell you that they don't feel like you are enthusiastic enough

then they suddenly call you out of fucking nowhere asking to you to come around and intern
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the problem is that you are all 20+ old NEETs with no job experience. Of course nobody will give you a job. You are too old now go get in the game. I suggest you kill yourselves. You need to start way earlier. When i was 14 i helped out my uncle fixing office chairs. When i was 15 i worked the summer on a vineyard. At 16 i worked at an company that made huge LED signs, 17 cashier at petrol station, 18 as baggage handler at the airport. when i started university OF COURSE i worked part time (internship) at a company that focused on what i was studying. Not only for work experience but also networking, which is so important.

You shits waited too long and now its literally impossible for you to make the first step.
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>>29897626

>luck

funny way to spell nepotism, you FUCK
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>>29897626
No, it is literally all connections. You have to fucking network now just to land a shitty minimum wageslave job.
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>>29897697
you're right, nepotism and some luck of the world too that i have a big brother at all, let alone one who owns a business.

but yeah its massively unfair and it makes you realise how fucked the world can be,
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>attend Annual Janitory Services Convention in Minneapolis
>get several numbers and contacts of CSO (Chief Sanitory Officers) of the top 5 janitor companies during the visit
>earning my PHD in Public Sanitation Theoretical Mathematics
>apply to local school for the groundskeeper position
>"sorry, we're looking for someone more qualified"

WHAT HAPPENED
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>>29897741
ask what they mean by more qualified and than do what is needed to get more qualified. apply again
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>>29897688
>I'm so smart because I worked since I was a teenager.
>you should be held accountable for trying to focus on studying all while paying for that shit.
Before I kill myself I will go full retard and get some top politicians. If I don't get killed I will have an isolated cell all for myself because magnicide.
Oh, and I hope you lose the scraps you have.
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My problem is that employers think I enjoy my job since I'm really good at it. They say this at every interview and tell me it's a red flag. How is being good at a job a red flag? If anything, it shows you are a hardworker and would be a fucking asset to them.

Damn how HR is fucking idiots.
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>>29897688
lol the real reason companies hire teens is because its easy to manipulate their hours and paychecks. and they basically don't standup for themselves
a 20 years old that is out of college or got some shit together won't do anything beyond his job description
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>>29896424
You can have my job, robot.
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Try to join the army.
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>Chad's resume
>aye yo gimme that work

>my resume
>numerous experience, references etc

>chad gets the job
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>>29897643
those are some mighty impressive mental gymnastics you've pulled off there, cletus
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>tfw STILL no job

hahah I'm going to get some lunch and then off myself see later you fucking nerds haha i give up
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>"just go to school for 15 years and you'll get a job"
>don't get job
The society pranked me really good.
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>>29897931
Chad drinks, does drugs with and fucks the whole HR department, you don't.

It's simple, really.
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>>29896424
This is a sign from the higher powers that you should embrace the superior NEET life.
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No offense, but most of you guys sound completely useless. In programming all you have to do is work on some cool open source projects and you can get a job without a degree. With other jobs, you volunteer to try learn new skills like accounting and shit like that. Obviously this isn't fun but it does work.

Alternatively, you can just lie about everything but its highly unlikely that you would be able to lie convincingly enough to get a job when quizzed about that work and employed to do it. It's not all about finishing assignments in the real world -- you know. You have to be doing shit that demonstrates you know how to solve specialized, real-world problems for a business and you guys barely know how to tie your own shoes without someone force feeding you it, it would seem.

Sorry if this comes off harshly but if you knew about my background and the people I've dealt with you would understand how retarded I think of most degree holders in general. Almost everyone I've hired with a degree fucking sucked and was next to useless. The only reason why companies try hire them at all is they think that their naivete and brain washing will make them good corporate drones (I kid you not) because few people outside universities have that level of jump through the next hoop mentality :^)

Tl; dr, the no experience meme needs to die and translates to you never having tried to do shit in the real world (even if that's starting your own business, building a product, or fucking anything.) It shows me that you're a complete moron, you're useless without being spoon fed, and you lack ambition. Would not hire / 10
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>>29898248
i'm building something that will allow me to shoot you through the internet
will you give me a job then mr shekelstein?
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>>29898292
No, I'll give you a job if you show you can do anything fucking useful at all. Is that too much to ask, meme boy?
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>>29898248
Nah fuck you dude, "you must demonstrate that you can work on something for free before you get the privilege of being paid" is a stupid ass way to run a society. It's not going to last, either.
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>>29897596

They also have Amazon where 7.25 can buy as much as 100 dollarydoos
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May I suggest something

git CBT 80pounds one day training
Be a pizza delivery boy
its summer
work is almost instant to get
chill deliveries, one of the lowest hassle entry level jobs
>get to go fast

I did it my life worked out grea....ok.

Bearable.
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>>29898248

t. guy who has his own 'business' running a youtube channel and posts daily motivational quotes on instagram daily
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>start applying for summer jobs in april
>it's now july
>got 1 call back and flubbed the interview

just shuck my fit up
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>>29898327
All I'm hearing is whining. You want a job -- go ahead and learn something useful to get one because that's how it works in today's specialized world. I didn't make the rules for this and had to do the exact same shit. I wasn't handed my job but worked for years to build up a good portfolio and skillset. Unless you honestly expect some poor company to take you on when you can't do shit ...

How is taking someone on that will cost the company money a better solution? Because that's what you're proposing here, communism, effectively.
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>>29897070
But we're having less kids than ever.

Where are all these people coming from?
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>>29898374
>1990 Soviet Union is worlds second largest economy.

RUSSIA TODAY.
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>>29898338
I hope you realize that I am honestly telling you how the real world works from the perspective of someone who has fucking done hiring. You guys have had your say. You've been whining about how competitive it is to get jobs and how everyone expects you to have 10 years of experience when there's no entry level jobs to start with. And I'm telling you that there are other ways to gain that experience which will net you massive fucking amounts of money long term.

It's a simple investment in yourself but you stupid faggots can't delay your own short term gratification long enough to see anything that's not directly in front of you which is why you'll never be hired.
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>>29898392
Geez I dunno man.

Its a Mystery.
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>>29898374
I already have a job that I'm okay with you dumb faggot, I'm just tired of bootstrapping assholes like you making themselves feel good by telling desperate people that they deserve their misery.

And as long as we're criticizing things for not being capitalism, you know what else isn't capitalism? People not being paid for their labour.
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>>29897931
Your making Chad out to sound like an ape.

Chad isn't a black concept.
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>>29898392

India, China, Africa.

Take your pick
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>>29898401
How'd you get 'in the game' sempai?
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Im the opposite of most people in this thread. I've never had difficulty getting or keeping a job but am a total kissless virgin to make up for it xD
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>>29898401
What are you even talking about man, do you think you're on reddit? This is a thread full of people trying and failing to get fast food work. Nobody here is crying about not being able to get a high paid white collar job.
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>>29898415
Actually not China my man.

Their population only increases due to immigration.

Also same with India - look at their birthrate.
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>>29896463
>tfw no ripped clown bf
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>>29897931
>your resume
>worked mcdonalds for 8 months
>volunteered at mommy's work
>unfinished college engineering degree

>chad's resume
>traveled the world building houses for poor kids
>5 years experience at parents' law firm
>worked at a restaraunt all through highschool
>part time personal trainer
>business degree
>runs his own start up
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>>29898449
>>5 years experience at parents' law firm

HMMMM
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>>29898449

>mfw I get the job because they say Chad is too overqualified
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>>29898411
Your labor is worthless if you don't have any skills to provide value, which is exactly my fucking point. Nobody wants to hire you because you don't know shit. Therefore, one works for nothing to build skills that will one day be worth something. You're not in a situation where you're "not getting paid" for your labor because nobody wants you touching their shit anyway cause you'll only fuck it up for everyone else.

If anything, you should be paying the company for the opportunity to work there in the same way that people pay to go to universities since just being there is a net fucking loss to the company. I hope you understand that from the companies perspective, there is literally no reason to pay some worthless faggot with a degree anything until they learn some skills that will actually benefit the business and generate real world value.

This is how capitalism works in reality, and yes its brutal. I never said this was what I supported, I am only hear to give you faggots a wake up call for how things work. You can start by building skills in something you like. Obviously by "you" I mean the other whining, clueless NEETs in this thread who expect to be paid something for their useless "skills."
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>>29898473
Not anyone you've been replying to but I'd just like to point that a lot of what you're pointing out as capitalist properties are actually properties of corporatism.
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>>29898471
CHAD BTFO
SERVES HIM RIGHT
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>>29898473
Again you fuckin weirdo, no one here has complained about not getting a cushy office job. People here are talking about not being able to get menial work flipping burgers

You're talking like you think you've wandered in a reddit thread where a bunch of liberal arts grads are whining about having to bus tables...this is a bunch of robots (i.e. broken NEETs with mental illness) talking about how they can't even get the job bussing tables
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>>29898515
All you have to do is build up a portfolio of programming projects then you can work at mcdonalds cleaning shit off the walls.
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>>29896451
This.

A million times this.

I wish people warned me about networking before I signed up for college. Wouldn't have wasted my time.
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>>29898471
>overqualified
this is a code word they use to fire robots
if chad is told he is overqualified it's easy to smooth over and assure the employers he will give it his all

only pale weirdos with sunken eyes and bad social skills are ever "overqualified"
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>>29898473
we are not talking about self studying and freelancing, which is a thing i fully support and do.

we are mostly talking about entry level jobs that require "creative thinkings and solutions how to improve the work environment" for mopping floors or "have leadership skills and move up the ranks" when flipping burgers
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>>29898422
1. Read countless books on programming.
2. Coded countless software that sucked.
3. Learned new technologies that were cool and specialized.
4. Thought of ways to improve those technologies and new applications.
5. Wrote more open source software to explore said ideas.
6. Published papers on my ideas.
7. Did some basic marketing on my work and learned how to talk to reporters.
8. Eventually was so skilled that I had direct experience solving many problems that some startups were facing. I applied directly with my portfolio and a cover letter explaining how I could help solve their problems and how I had already solved many of them myself.
9. I was hired for 100k+ with no degree, prior work experience at a company, or even a high school diploma.
10. Kept repeating this process, landed numerous press interviews, job offers, etc.

Whole process only took about 4 years but much longer if you count the total time I've spent programming. I think a smart motivated person could do this faster though if they had a good mentor.
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>>29898529
thanks im going to start codeacademy tutorials and then maybe mcds will hire me
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The world moves very fast and I don't keep track. Every time I go outside and show up to an interview I must look and sound like a stranded time traveler or something.

I acknowledge that. I'm a loner, I don't really care about most things going on around me. I never participate in work events or socialize with my coworkers. The resume and interview standards are shifting constantly. I do my research, but people can probably tell I'm out of the loop. Even at my old office job I slowly transitioned into full home office (with their approval) because I couldn't be bothered to do the 20-minute commute. Some people knew my face, most didn't. I'm assuming my biggest mistake is that I'm on nobody's radar. My dad is exactly like this, he has this weird non-presence when he's in public. He just looks oddly out of place wherever he goes, it's hard to pinpoint. Maybe I look like that too.
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How old are you guys and what jobs are you applying for?
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Because most of the shit jobs like McDonalds purposely focus only on hiring young people (in their teens), fairly good looking, presentable, normal in every other way. It's about branding and profit margins. If you're above the ages of 18 you'll want to apply for other jobs even if you have no work history.
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>>29898248
>in programming
All my programmer friends have jobs tho. It's one of the few places they can't afford to lose valuable workers.
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>>29898575

20s, basic retail shit.
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>>29898603
That's kind of what I thought. No manger is going to hire you for these kinds of positions even if your resume is good. They're for young normies, not even joking, so if you're still applying for them in your 20s something is wrong.

There's no other option but to do some courses, personal project, volunteering, etc, and aim for higher jobs.
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>>29898632

I'm still in uni what the fuck else can I do. I've already done a fair bit of volunteering.
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>>29896451

Let me add that just knowing people won't get you anywhere, you have to know people who aren't shit.

t. person with shit friends
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>>29898603
don't you have at least 1 person you can talk to in your area? not even 1?
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>>29898632
I see tons of middle aged people doing shitty entry level retail work though
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>>29898651
What degree are you studying? It's easier to give advice if I know what you aim to do
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I've been looking into programming

Should I even bother? Apparently street shitters are stealing all those jobs.

Can we just nuke India already
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>>29898685
They're only stealing the unspecialized IT jobs. Pajeet can't do AI, cryptography, UX design, and hundreds of other jobs companies pay good money for
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>>29898685
if you are learning programming avoid front end,web and css and graphic design.

focus more on game engines,open source projects, and C#,sql etc

the upper is saturated as fuck
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>>29898697
>UX design

Actually they can. Look at Freelancr.
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>>29898473
>your labor is worthless so I don't pay you.
>don't like it? Someone else will take it.
>hurr durr company loses money
And I lose time and use my mental and physical skills to keep your shitty business alive. Working gor free is a scam because once you get enough experiwnce people will fire your ass and hire someone else to work for free until they need another sucker.

Fuck off. I was employee of the month three times in six months and was promised a job I didn't get because the "team spirit" meme. In a job with no fucking partners whatsoever. I'd rather be a hobo, which I was for some time. Never did drugs and have no vices.
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>>29897931

>mfw I don't even have a resume
>mfw I'm going to have to somehow pull one out of my ass if I ever want to giddafuck out of working in grocery store produce
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>Apply for job
>Call in
>Hi I want to know process of my application
>Ok come in for interview
>Interview pass
>Ok Anon you start on Monday

Anyone who isn't a retard knows that mangers have no time for applications.
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>>29898697
I'm not smart enough to do those jobs either though. AI and cryptography are 130+ IQ jobs, you need to be 90th percentile intelligence to be good at that sort of work

I'm guessing you live in the bay area or some other elite bubble that gives you a skewed idea of how smart the average person is
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>>29898685
I don't know if that is entirely true though. For example, I just graduated from college and got hired by a big american consultancy company as a software developer. I was then assigned to a local company where I live (Sweden) that had grown tired of pajeets shitcode. The company that I am employed at said that many local businesses here have grown tired of outsourcing software/cloud solutions because it almost never works and communication/support etc is always bad. We actually are being partly trained by people from India just to replace them. Not sure if this applies to the US but I can't see why it should not. The company I work for is IBM.
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Recently got my first job which is cleaning at a supermarket, no idea how I got it. Just trying to figure how I can get a reference and find something better or go back to being a shut-in or focus on studying or go on NEETbux.
>22 never employed until this
>pour with sweat when I work and it is winter here
>obese
>haven't cut my hair and beard in months
I guess what I'm trying to say is keep trying you may just get lucky
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HR hates everyone with decent resumes. They hate that you use words they don't understand such as "Java" or "driver's license". All resumes that trigger them get thrown out. They only want to interview dinguses who make them feel like grown-ups and believe in the same mumbo jumbo words they learned in HR school. At least it's like that in my city, I don't have money to move.
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you cucks need jesus and the SWEAT pledge
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>>29898575
18, looking for internships
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>>29898652
A sad realization when you realize all the time spent socializing with your peers at a shit job was a complete waste of time because none of them will ever have any power to help you in any way even if they wanted to, and the people who actually could want to have nothing to do with you because you aren't part of their lives and you have no way of interacting with them in a way that seems normal.
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>>29898741
>I want to know process of my application
what?
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Social skills and previous experience. None of which I have.
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>be a neet
>join military
>steady paycheck for 4 years
>tuition assistance + housing for 3 years
>veterans preference for every job application
>government jobs practically hand you the job
It worked for me, depending on the branch and job you can literally have a stress free life for the 4 years your in.
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>>29899692
what country tho?
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I blame baby boomers and also generation x. Sucked the country dry.

t. generation y
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>>29899726
America, but most countries have similar benifets from the ones ive interacted with. Canada and British military are much more relaxed though.
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>>29899692
I tried joining the military (uk) but they would not have me because of my history of depression, reeeeeee!!111!!
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>>29896424
It isn't you sperg.
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>>29899878
>wouldn't accept you to burn women and children because you were down in the dumps for a while

the first world, ladies and gentlemen
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>>29896666

Nice get famalamalamalam
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>>29896424
>Lie on my cv
>Get invited to interview
>Guy obviously knows I lied and seems personally offended about it and keeps trying to trip me up with questions and put pressure on me

The only reason I lied is because I WANT THE JOB. Why would you get butthurt about a few white lies instead of finding out if I'd be a good employee or not? I lied about what grades I got on my GCSE's for fucks sakes, it's a manual labour job. It's not like I lied about having experience driving dangerous pieces of machinery.
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>>29898401
Jesus Christ you fucking nigger! Just bee yourself faggit jew!
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>>29900288
i hope you at least got decent a levels famalam
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>>29898709
>game engines
dude what? there are dozens of game engines out there that are fairly good to make games for.

>open source projects
uhhh guess those would hire you depending on the contributions to the project. is that it?
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>>29900833
I put down that I got A's in English, Math's and Science.

He asked why I didn't go to university and shit like that, I've changed the grades to C's now. Still a lie but at least they won't get butthurt and question me on it,
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Dude getting jobs is fucking easy.
Im heavily addicted to heroin and i always get the job after interveiws.
Then i lose the job for getting high at work. Its a cycle
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>applied for a white collar job at the government
>just a test, no interview
>got the job
Pretty easy desu.
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>tfw I have an interview today
wish me luck
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>>29898858
Pls go and stay go, Mike.
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>>29896424
Start applying for shit jobs and get references and experience. Then apply for mediocre jobs for references and experience. Then apply for a decent job for references and experience. Do so until you're satisfied. You NEETs gotta realize that high paying jobs don't just happen unless you got connections or experience.
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>apply to work at a movie theater
>will get paid to rip tickets in half, literally something that a mentally handicapped person could do
>they require a lengthy application, resume, and three references
>I come in for the interview, it goes well
>call them a week later
>"Uh yeah we're still looking into your references"
>never hear from them again

I sincerely hope that society collapses
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>>29897367
>apply for a job
>hear nothing
>another blow to your self esteem

yea, fuck this. either this economy improves or i stay a NEET and become homeless
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Is it really that hard to get a minimum wage job in the usa?

I mean, I thoght it was the land of opportunity, or is that refer to the people that get mega rich
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>think enough is enough- time to get job
>be motivated and excited
>look up how to write a resume
>get uncomfy as all hell
Maybe this job thing isn't for me.
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>>29896424
get a job you love op
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>>29896424

Recently, there are a lot of job in Mexico from Ford and GMC
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>you have to be a numale and fake extrovertedness to get a job
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Guys - just get a Commercial Driver's License. That's what I did, I even found a way to get it for free. Now I drive a truck by myself all day hauling gravel in a dump truck, working for my state government, pays decently, and everyone who works for the government is fucked up anyways, don't have to worry about being a robot.
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>Job Centre isn't happy that my brother only sends off 5 applications a day
>makes him do volunteering at a factory for 3 months or they reduce his unemployment benefits
>3 months later he tries to reapply to that job
>Sorry Anon's onii-chan, we only accept paid experience as valid experience
>back to putting up with the Job Centre's bullshit he goes

Too scared to apply for unemployment benefits so I don't have to deal with the cunts at the Job Centre
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>>29896455
>I don't know what practice is
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>>29896666
Satanic quads kek
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fuck this rigged system and you fucking holier than thou normalshit cunts
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got turned down from a dishwashing job yesterday

doe that fucking shit require a degree? what the fuck
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>>29897578
then switch jobs?
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>>29904235
I saw an ad for a dishwashing job that wanted 1 year experience.
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normalcunt chads and boomers dont beleive me when i say i was turned down at wendys and ignored by mcdonalds.


i need a way out of the FUCKING SHITHOLE BUILDING I LIVE IN WITH MY PARENTS. THE FUCKING NEIGHBORS UPSTAIRS ARE FUCKING PIECES OF SCUMBAG LOUD SHIT. I'm slowing going insane in this fucking shithole. Need a job now THEN I can try go to to school. I wouldnt be able to make it to any classes or do any work if I still lived here


FUCK LIFe. FUCK
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>finally get that minimum wage job
>manager overworks and exploits everyone
>intentionally short staffed to save money
>constantly covering for my shitty coworkers
>leave go home an hour early one night
>immediate text message from manager
>he was watching from home and saw
>"anon you're off the schedule"
>"we've decided to terminate you"

yyou stupid fucking nigger bob
i need this job to LIVE
ARE YOU TRYING TO MURDER ME BOB
MAYBE I SHOULD MURDER YOU BACK HUH
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>>29896424
Get a job at addblock plus agency. They are blocking content that you don't want to see right now. Just one.
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>>29904471
you made the mistake of being a replaceable source of income

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhUGzujGH1k
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>tfw close wal mart i can apply to since chad and boomers say theyll hire me
>tfw no car
>tfw need job to get car
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>>29897070
Nobody talks about this because it makes normies uncomfortable.

Overpopulation and overconsumption is a gigantic societal problem and is fucking life up for everyone.

Shit I am never having kids.
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>>29904676
nobody talks about overpopulation?

huh, interesting perspective
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>>29897741
> PHD in Public Sanitation Theoretical Mathematic
What the fuck?
Is this bait? I can't tell.
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>>29904235
Speaking from experience, they wanted 2 years of professional dishwashing experience.
I asked if washing dishes at home counted and they said no.

Whoever is in charge of making these retarded standards instead of critically thinking about who they are hiring needs to get shot. The only people who would even apply are ones who can't find other work, and they'll probably jump ship as soon as they do.
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>have a Masters degree
>faggot companies would rather hire Staceys and Chads with shit GPA and less experience than me
>have been on 7 interviews in the last month
>waiting on replies now
>a fucking literal Hew organization I interviewed with reposted the job as after I interviewed
>seriously considering suicide at this point like setting myself on fire at my alma mater
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>>29904971
*Jew fuck autocorrect
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The two jobs I have now were both posted on job-search websites that took cold applicants so if that's not working for you, you need to fucking move somewhere where it does. And you need to move before you ask for the job because nobody's going to hire you on the fact that you might be able to move.
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>>29898684
Not that anon. But I'm studying physics here.
I don't know if I'll finish, I'm thinking of changing to Electrical engineering.
But you see, I literally have no idea how the fuck am I supposed to get a job after this. All I did my life was to study to get through school, and vidya.
Now I'm in university and the only thing I can do is study. Nothing else. I have no other qualitites to be honest.
How the fuck am I supposed to get a job with a physics degree, or EE degree with no useful abilities. Fuck this shit man, what the fuck am I even doing in university? In the end it still comes down to networking and shit.
Which I have/done zero in my entire life.

I'm fucked.
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>>29905026
In fact, I'm going to add that if you can't find a job move to a place near a fucking amusement park because those places have extremely high turnover rates due to shitty conditions. They'll hire literally anybody. Its better than nothing and you can start on building a CV
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>>29904971
FUCK THIS SHIT

YOU REPOST JOB? LIKE I WASNT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?

FUCK YOU

FUCK YOUR ENTIRE COMPANY
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>it worked for me why doesnt it work for you :^) u arent trying :^^^))))


FUCK you normmalscum fuck OFF
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>>29905116
The worst part is I followed up and emailed them to see if I was still in the running and they said yes.
I can't wait until ISIS conquers America or when automation takes everyone's job.
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>>29905382
There's the thing though, if the automatons take the jobs who is going to manage them? More robots? How far and intricate would we have to go to make this realistic and long-lasting enough to never require a competent human being ever again? Would we even have an economy since nobody is working? Will the robots reach a logical conclusion that we're just cattle and force us into jobs?
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>>29896666
Damn man sucks for you but at least you got dem quads
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>Hiring Range $8.50 per hour. 2 years previous dishwashing experience required. Ideal candidates will demonstrate the ability to work well under pressure and with a variety of other people in a team environment; take direction; be flexible as needs dictate; and work a variety of shifts averaging 29 hours per week. Selected candidates must pass a criminal background check.

FUCK you
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fuck thiswghfewshhh
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u shuld have jus been urselves
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>>29896424

So you'll happily accept socialism and assigned jobs when they eventually come.
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>>29905524
just lie anon. Say you washed dishes at your local scout lodge or something when you were younger.
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>>29906858
aint coming berncuck

feel le hillary
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real talk op is a faggot
https://discord.gg/BRV7F7h
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>>29897349

Volunteer doing what exactly? I don't know any programming jobs where I can volunteer, and don't want my knowledge to atrophy due to negligence.
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dont listen to this anon >>29906877
youll get yelled at and fired by the kitchen manager and chef for not being fast enough and replaced by an immigrant
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>>29897489
You fucking faggot that's season and job per job
I bet you don't even work retarded white boy who thinks and acts like nigger
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>>29896424
Go to a temp agency.

Hell if any of you know how to drive a fork lift I can get you a job tomorrow.
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>>29907030
I can't even drive a car.
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>>29907030
>temp agency.
ones here are all far away in southside and not on the bus line.

need a job to get a car to get a temporary job
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>>29907080

Forklifts are much slower than cars. I can't see many danger's beyond stabbing people with fork.
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>>29897578
>get called in for an interview for a potential job
>excited cause I want to be worth something
>interviewer is a fucking roastie
>end up not getting the job


>weeks later get another interview same place
>this time its a man doing the interview
>posting this on my break now

Protip: if a woman/roastie is doing the interview, don't count on getting the job
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>TFW got a part-time job working at a resale store yesterday
>TFW today was my first day and it was chill

It only pays $8.00 and I'm only getting 20 hours a week, but hey, it's something. I've been looking for a job for two months and I just now got something. It feels nice to work again after wasting away in my house, I think I was starting to go partially insane from loneliness and boredom. At least I can spend part of my day moving around, lifting stuff, interacting with other people and what not. I actually feel a bit happier, and this is coming from a pretty depressed NEET loser virgin.
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>>29907127
Dumping 1000 gallons of quench oil, or driving into a gas vent and blowing up a million dollar furnace.

Both of these have happened.
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>>29907278

Good on you, Anon. Proud of ya.
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>>29899907
>every Jon in the military is killing and rape.
Would tumblr and reddit go away also go fuck your self you nigger faggot.
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>>29897231
>if you do drugs or drink you will permanently damage your body
>do don't do them, you can't obtain the connections you need to get good jobs

This is a fucking trick.
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>>29907563
>sampling the merchandise
Everyone flocks to you if you're providing. They don't care too much if you do or don't do them.

My dad was a drug dealer and that was how he described it.
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9am to 2pm - pay rate $8.00 per hour

Keeps premises of location in clean and orderly condition
Empties trash and replaces liners if necessary.
Cleans ashtrays.
Dusts all horizontal surfaces with microfiber cloth.
Picks up paper clips, paper, pencils from floor.
Spot cleans door glass.
Spot wipes doors.
Vacuum of common areas.
Cleans restrooms
Refills toilet tissue.
Refills all other dispensers.
Empties trash.
Cleans and sanitizes all fixtures and clean mirrors.
2 years Janitorial Experience is REQUIRED, must be able to pass criminal background check and have own transportation
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>>29904670
Just save all your money :^)
And then you can buy insurance and pay for a inspection sticker and then pay the car off every month
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TO ALL THE PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT PROGRAMMING:

Poo in loos do it for pennies on the dollar.
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>>29898473
>If anything, you should be paying the company for the opportunity to work there in the same way that people pay to go to universities
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>>29907706
meant to say NO CLOSE walmart
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>>29898575
26

No work experience or degree!
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>entry level/junior level/for recent college grads
>MUST have mandatory minimum 2 years experience, if you don't have this don't bother applying
>literally got turned down from a job for the sole reason of having less than 1 year experience even though I worked my ass off to contact hiring manager directly and got employee rec, so no your "just apply anyway lolololol" advice isn't true

>>29896551

how do you guys apply to 20 a day? I have a hard time just applying for one. I need to look forever for what fits my qualifications and write out a whole personalized cover letter. Is it because I'm going for white collar stuff?

It's like it is either for high schoolers/associates degrees, or you need a BS AND 2 years experience. Nothing in between.
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>>29898575
25, have a business degree but got a shitty grade. Currently applying for admin jobs.
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TFW I make $17/HR working at an elementary school doing basic troubleshooting on tech.if I can't fix it on the spot (ie turn off and on, unplug/really etc) I put in a ticket and another tech comes and goes it.

Git u a gubment job. No pressure to produce profit. :^) School districts are a goldmine. I mostly sit in my comfy office and shitpost until a teacher needs me.
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fucking applictaion for shit tier retail jobs take about 4 hours to fill out


FUCK 400 question assessment/personality tests at the end for minimum wage jobs
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>>29907824
Then the teacher says

>"All you did was unplug it, turn it off and on again...I could have done that. Thanks for nothing."

I can see that happening lol
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>>29907824
what qualifications do you have to get that job?
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>>29896424
we neet to fight, we neet to kill, we neet to plan and we neet to strike, even if they kill us all we die free, isn't that at least worth fighting and dying for.
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>>29907824
xD why didnt we think o that


wtf r u robots waitn for jus go get dat easy comfy job thats availablee 4 all uf us xDDD
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>>29907834
FUCKING THIS

Seriously applying for basic retail jobs is a nightmare, most them ask you like 100 questions representing scenarios and gauging what kind of person you are, it's annoying.

>"You witness an employee stealing something, what do you do?"
>"I'd tell a supervisor"
>"That is incorrect, the correct choice was to not say anything because you aren't minding your own business."

That's the gist of how retarded those questions are.
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>>29897482
I scored a dishwashing job for a French small business by pretending to be a gay guy down on his luck. Fast forward 2 months, one of the line cooks turns out to be gay and feels sorry for me, hooks me up with a wealthy couple who rent a guest house on their property out to whoever will do their yard work. So I end up starting over from nothing with a (menial) job and house.

So I guess pretend to be gay where you know it won't make you get shat on? I'm 26 without a degree btw
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>>29907850
That's why I don't make it obvious what I'm doing ;) pull up the command prompt and ping Google or something.
>>29907853
Just high school. I worked for contractors before that worked with the schools. Me and my coworkers mostly did drugs and blew off work as they kept us as temps.
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>>29907874
Did you though? I bet you didn't. Have you even applied for city jobs? Government. Jobs have a lot lower standard and demand a lot less because they don't have to be competitive.
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>24, accounting BS
>applying finance/some accounting

I hate accounting, but the only finance jobs that are hiring are for sales or day trading.
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>>29907850
One in high school one of the science teachers called in a local gas/boiler guy at over $100 an hour to fix the gas problem preventing the Bunsen burners working. He reckoned it was a huge expensive problem with the safety valves etc. Guy came in, looked around for literally 10 seconds during class and walked over to the wall. He turned a safety valve and said sign here please.
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>>29897163
They just cheat on their tests or stop smoking for a while then start again once they got the job.
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>>29896424
wtf is non-ascii text


eksalyvlmoihtav
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>>29904266
Can't, I've only been working there two weeks now and if you leave early they give shitty reports of you to your next employer. I think that is technically against the law, but they do it anyway.

>>29897951
Not an argument.
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>>29908003
>security maymay

too bad my state requires classes I cant afford to get a security job

>need job to take classes to get job
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>>29907986
If I was the science teacher I'd have been pissed, also how can a science teacher not know how to operate or at least figure out what is wrong with Bunsen burners?

>>29908003
It's probably because you're using a Euro or Pound sign and I don't think you can use that on 4chan, try removing the Euro symbol. I know that 4chan let's you post the dollar symbol

$$$$$$$$$$ but not the euro symbol
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>>29907972
What is a day as an accountant like, I'm interested in doing an office job where I get to use my brain. What it is like to do it day to day.
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>>29908070
He was embarrassed but he tried to pretend he wasn't. I think the correct procedure was to turn off the valve where it entered the room but being lazy he never did. Some other teacher must have done it when he was out and, having never turned it off himself it never occurred to him to turn it back on.
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>worked in a great restaurant for for 3 years at the time
>try to get my friend a job
>they dont hire him after interviewing him because 1 years ago because one of my retarded friends put that he knew me on his application, they hired him, and he performed terribly

>btw it isnt hard to get a job if you arent retarded ask me questions if u need help
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>>29896424
These cunts at a BK literally have a "now hiring" sign. I applied saying I was available at all the times they are open, called back 2 days later and they said they don't have any hours right now.
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Stop being a robot and you'll get a job
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>>29908205
>1 years ago because one of my retarded friends put that he knew me on his application, they hired him, and he performed terribly
Kek thats messed up
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>>29908074

Tedium and repetition. Memorizing small details of thousands of obscure laws and rules. Number crunching for retarded ratios that don't mean shit except how well the manager is faking growth. The government watching you over your shoulder like you're a criminal from birth and compliance. Literally half of accounting jobs are just compliance for regulations, especially sox. Thanks Enron. Fixing mistakes retards make. Especially those middle aged business owners who "have their own system" and can't into computers and their books are a mess and you have to translate everything from retard to compliance with standards. Writing 100 page financial statements full of shit that's retarded and doesn't show anything meaningful but """"""investors"""""" like to see. Oh, and half of them want you to get your CPA so you have to study like a chinese for 6 months to learn every obscure fact and law and method and definition to pass some giant fucking three part test. Fuck CPA. My goal is a job that doesn't require it, which is a huge part of why I like finance.
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>>29898575
Was 21 when I started applying for entry levels a few months (fast food, 2 YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL DISHWASHING EXP, etc.). Didn't get anywhere so I went to college instead. I'll probably be applying for those same jobs but at least now I'm a bit more aware of what companies want. Accounting is pretty comfy so I'm hoping the maths in it will at least help me land numbers jobs.
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>>29908205
i want work but no one will hire me why.
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>>29908305
Thanks for the info. In honesty after working for years in customer centered jobs all the 'this idiot has no idea what he is doing fix it without letting him know he is a retard' thing sounds par for the course. What is the money like?
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>>29896455

Go to a Temp agency you lazy neet.
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