I fantasize a lot during my days, several hours a day. About going on dates, with men, sex, what could be in a relationship, and so on. Unfortunately, due to being mtf, most of these fantasies end up in anxiety or depressive thoughts.
Now I'm mainly thinking about dating, and how things would work out.
Here are some scenarios
>Date guy
>Everything goes fine
>At some point I'd probably bring up sex, and his expectations, and I guess what he's into (I don't think I would want a vanilla relationship)
>I'd start to cry because I know he'd be upset with not getting vaginal sex
>Unless he already knows I'm trans, he'd probably think I would have some experience with rape
>I'd go along with it for a while (i.e. let him think so, but not claiming it), until I've gotten enough good feelings from the dating, and tell him how it is
>He'd say it's ok, but then never talk to me again
Am I correct in this? What am I to do? There should be some semi-bisexual guys out there, right, who haven't fiddled with guys before, right?
The only thing I think has any value in life is a relationship, with some amounts of sex (I'm not going to have anal sex several times a day, not even every day).
I'm not expecting to get married, but at least a serious relationship that would last a few years, or at least a couple of years.
>inb4
>He would know you're a tranny the moment he sees/hears you
Maybe, but this is just thinking about what if he didn't figure it out.
>>29896394
Your problem is that you are a stupid tranny that feels as though you deserve a cute 10/10 boy to be in a relationship with you.
You don't deserve that. Women think they are entitled to a 10/10 Chad Thundercock. They don't deserve that either.
You either earn it, or you fail, and then you shut the fuck up.
is this pasta
it seems like pasta
post you are self
i seriously doubt you pass
>>29896394
3dpd, especially gross tranny
>>29896394
If you know of the impending disaster that comes with this mental disorder, why do you contunue to allow yourself to indulge in this mental instability? If youre aware of the problem, i.e your delusions of being a women, why not fix it, i.e just being gay? Just stop, anon. Stop and fucking kill yourself
post your pic bitch
then we will pass judgement
>>29896394
Sorry to read that OP. :(
Seems like actual, loving relationships are really hard to get for the trans.
>There should be some semi-bisexual guys out there, right
Surely.
>who haven't fiddled with guys before, right?
Why does this matter though?
>>29896465
What are you trying to achieve with this post?
>>29896456
I don't pass yet, I'm not done with transition.
After it, I think I'd pass to most people, but maybe not if I'm being "inspected" more thoroughly.
>>29896425
I don't like "chads"; I like older men, pic related is 10/!0 to me.
He doesn't even need to financially support me, since I'm probably going to be on financial support until I die. In the eyes of the people/institutes that decides it, I'm a lost cause, too long history of issues.
But obviously, I rather stay single that be with a fat short beta that spends his days whining and crying about the world not appreciating his actions (like sorting his collection of starwars figurines in alphabetical order).
>>29896538
>Why does this matter though?
Because I find gay sex to be disgusting. I might sanction it if he only fucked some really feminine and young guy before.
If he has fucked anything manly, or ever taken dick, it's a big no.
>>29896583
Ok. I'm more tolerant than you are desu!
I understand that you would want to be treated completely like a woman, by a man. You wouldn't want to be a gay man's fetish.
Honestly, I'm not gay and I'm pretty sure I couldn't deal with dicks. It seems like gay men always are attracted to dicks, and non-gays are somewhat averse to it. You'd need an almost gay guy that has never had gay sex. This is more rare. Maybe some non-gay guys are really open minded and wouldn't mind about dicks. Frankly I think it's pretty mature and that's a good thing. But it must be somewhat rare too.
>>29896688
He isn't going to get to play with my dick if you thought that.
>and non-gays are somewhat averse to it
I don't get this.
Then why is big dicks such a big thing in porn? Why must the dick be absolutely huge for the porn to be successful, and cover 1/3rd of the screen?
>>29896583
>it's a big no
You don't understand. Beggars cannot be choosers, and you are the beggar. You are a man and you're asking a man to fuck you and be in a relationship with you. How fucking delusional can you get?
Fuck trannies
>>29896394
You won't get those things because you are a fucking freak. Why don't you skip the years of lonliness and being a hole for faggots to poz in, and get to the part where you look at yourself in the mirror and see the same mutilated freak everyone else has been seeing for years and kys? Delusional faggit
>>29896753
>You are a man and you're asking a man to fuck you and be in a relationship with you.
Now yes, but once I'm done with transition, It'll take like 4-6 months until I'll legally be female.
I'm not a beggar, if I were a beggar I'd take anything.
Besides, I'd be the perfect subject for a man with a savior complex.
>>29896723
>He isn't going to get to play with my dick if you thought that.
Oh. Ok I don't know. I would feel really bad if the person I'm in a relationship with doesn't get satisfied properly. I like doing it to...
>Then why is big dicks such a big thing in porn? Why must the dick be absolutely huge for the porn to be successful, and cover 1/3rd of the screen?
The effect it has on the girls...
There are some who argue that all porn is gay or that you imagine yourself as the girl or whatever I don't remember, I don't get it. I'm sure there's SOME sense to their analysis, but overall it's pretty wacky.
When I say "averse" to dick I don't mean that they can't even stand seeing them. But handling them is gonna make them feel very gay. Maybe it shouldn't though. It shouldn't be a big deal.
>>29896802
IF you ever get in a relationship with a man, that man is gay or bisexual. You literally cannot be in a relationship with a straight man because to have sex with you would make the man gay. The fact that you would be "legally" female doesn't change the reality of the situation.
>>29896723
you gotta be trolling
>be male
>want to be fucked in the ass by male
>BUT NOT BY GAY MALES
>>29896862
He'd only be gay if he wants to play with my dick, or sees me as a man.
Otherwise he could be straight, without having an overwhelming aversion for penis.
To be bi you have to be attracted to men, people who live as men, and look like men. As well as females.
To be gay you have to be attracted to men, those who iive and look like men. An overwhelming aversion of vaginas isn't necessary.
You don't get to decide what others identify as, and a guy who would never want to be with a man, but is ok with a trans woman, fits much better in the straight category than the gay or bi category.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? The world isn't black and white.
>>29896866
What an original post.
Definitely shouldn't be caught in the filter.
>>29896888
No, if he engages in any sexual activity with you he is gay.
I'm not "deciding" anything, this is just the way it is. Get real.
Your nitpicking about what kind of guy your 'potential' boyfriend has fucked is pathetic and unrealistic; it would be like me nitpicking what kind of guys stacy fucked and saying she wouldn't be good enough for me - she was far out of my grasp anyway, so it means jack shit.
>>29896802
>legally be female
that doesn't actually make you a female you delusional fuck.
>>29896927
That is your judgment, not his.
Go fuck yourself, faggot.
You've been handling a dick your whole life, literally putting your hand around it and jerking it.
That shit is gay.
>>29896888
>is a man
>want's to be fucked by men
>b-but it's not gay if I cut my dick off first
>>29896888
I agree with that. I don't care about the biological sex. I can see transwomen as women. It's not some crazy multi-gendered non-binary SJW thing. They just thought they had the wrong sex at birth and wanted to change it. It's no big deal. At least they still believe in genders. Much saner than the SJWs.
r9k overlaps with pol. That's one of the reason the trans get hate here. The other reason is that they're not robots. And they could end up getting too much attention and gathering too many orbiters and make the board non-functional. So they have to be chased away like the roasties.
>>29896941
>maybe I can get some trap boipussi if I white knight
dobgeg, kill yourself my man, my GAY man
You can't argue with the fact that OP is male. He always will be no matter how hard he tries to feminize himself, making anyone who fucks him a literal homo/bisexual. He's shitposting about how he's going to nitpick who his boyfriend will be, who will be his "le perfect savior prince charming", but the reality will set in that he's gonna have to settle for someone at least 2 points lower than him in attractiveness and personality. That person will probably also be a tranny chaser who will leave him when he gets older. Face the fucking reality now, or feel the emotional pain later after everything I'm saying comes true, cuck.
>>29896888
Part of the enoyment of sex comes from pleasing your partner, if you don't like anal that much (purely based on previous post, I may be wrong) and don't want me to touch your penis it becomes awfully one sided
>>29896394
>I fantasize a lot during my days, several hours a day.
Me too. But its about some old /tg/ scenario about 4chan posters being teleported in an empty pristine world to restart human civilization in a way. Starting with survival, hunter-gatherer tribe phase, finding some plants to cultivate and settling, getting politics up.
I am too lazy to write the whole thing down, but it basically went something like this:
>people who visited 4chan that night get teleported to this new world
>they are "immortal", as in as long as they are alive their bodies will repair themselves and strive for a healthy equilibrium
>but they cant procreate
>some time later a bunch of additional, "normal" people appear, at this point the pioneers need to have prepared some infrastructure, housing, food
>recreate civilization from there
And with this stupid, illogical, impossible scenario I daydream possibilities, play out good and bad outcomes. I read up on how to build a house from wattle and daub, how to make a boat, recognizing herbs, I read some philosophy and early works of politics by Plato and Aristotle, I even made bows and learned to fish.
Its been an ongoing thing, for several years, and I've long since realized its stupid, but it continues to occupy my time. I like wasting time and energy in this dream world.
>>29896968
this
normal heterosexual men don't want trannies. they aren't women and never will be, no matter how much they might superficially look like one.
so unless OP actually plans to decieve an unexpierienced male into being with him, he will have to accept that his partners will be wewirdo fetishists. that's just reality.
>>29896394
How big is your little secret?
>>29896987
I think most of the pleasure comes from foreplay, and actually fulfilling fetishes.
Prostate orgasm are supposed to be pretty intense, so I'm quite sure only anal could fully satisfy me.
Before anal there needs to be some preperation, and I think cleaning/douching anal too often will destroy the membranes/mucosal tissue, probably causing hemorrhoids/prolapsing.
>>29896988
There's something called primitive living, or something like that. If you actually want to live in a primitive world, without modern tools, you can actually do that.
>>29897039
Pretty small, like 5" erect.
>>29896888
Please explain the penis situation.
It's one of the first things that come to mind when thinking of dating a trans. If you would rather men not handle your penis at all then it's probably going to be a relief for them.
But how is it gonna work then? Do you take care of yourself while he caresses you? Do you leave and take care of yourself alone (that would be a bit upsetting desu)? He's gonna wonder about all of that. I'm sure it can all work out, but he's really gonna wonder.
There are two whole boards for mentally ill trannies to post on
>>>/lgbt/
and
>>>/trash/
why post here?
>>29897062
>But how is it gonna work then?
I don't know, it's something that causes anxiety in my fantasies.
I think if I could get an orchidectomy (removing testicles) it'd make things a lot easier.
Tucking won't work. I think it can prevent penis from getting erect if you're a shower, but when you're a grower I don't think you can prevent erections. Besides, it'd be weird to tuck, since you wouldn't have any actual clothes to tuck with, you'd have to tape, which would be weird.
>Do you take care of yourself while he caresses you?
What? During sex he puts his dick in my bum. Then he can do things like putting fingers in my mouth, grope breasts, maybe light choking, holding my arms in some way, breath in my neck, etc.
I won't touch my dick, either I don't proste, or I would cum from prostate. Either way, it'd feel good. As long as it gets me sufficiently exhausted I don't think I'd be frustrated about not cumming.
>He's gonna wonder about all of that. I'm sure it can all work out, but he's really gonna wonder.
Probably something you figure out by trying.
It's only recently I've tarted masturbating, usually when I'm bored, and it's very underwhelming. Before that I went a few years without it.
I don't actually fap during masturbation though.
>>29897093
/lgbt/ is basically /pol/.
This board is actually far more civil about this than /lgbt/ would be. There's barely any point in posting anything trans on there, since 9/10 posts will be "mentally ill faggot" etc.
>>29897120
>or I would cum from prostate
Oh ok.
>As long as it gets me sufficiently exhausted I don't think I'd be frustrated about not cumming.
That's pretty hot desu.
Most men really care about being able to make a woman come (actually hurts their pride otherwise). I guess they'd have to accept that it would be harder for you and might not always happen.
I guess you could still come from prostate stimulation using toys if it doesn't work from anal or during your break days (since apparently too many enemas is dangerous as you posted)?
>>29896394
I am actually getting extremely hard by this
>s-senpai I have one little secret I haven't shown you, I hope you won't mind it <3
thing, the problem is that IRL trannies are not girls with dicks but men with tits and that turns me off
>>29896898
doing very well on being a women so far
too bad you have a dick
dumbo
>>29897261
It obviously varies.
Some trans girls are amazingly hot, and you'd never ever believe they're mtf.
Others literally just look like men with gynecomastia, in womens clothes.
Then there are are people anywhere between those two poles.
>>29897259
Eh, it's different though.
Female and male (or whatever) sexuality isn't the same. Males have to cum, and their sexuality basically forces them to find some relief.
Female sexuality, or mtf sexuality, is different. There isn't the same need to cum, not a biological need to cum, even though some may want to very much.
I went years without masturbation, so I wouldn't need to masturbate during a relationship.
Obviously it's going to be hard, and probably strain on the relationship, with the limited sexual action.
>>29897360
So it's going to be a lot psychological for you?
I guess that's why you mentioned vanilla relationship not being what you'd want.
That would be a difficult thing to talk about with your date clearly. He might be OK with all sorts of stuff without necessarily being in the right mindset for it right now. If you tell him what you might prefer right away it could freak him out.
>>29896888
if you have a penis, then anyone who would be willing to have any type of sex with you is atleast partially gay and will see that part of you as a boy.
Here's the thing- SEXUAL INTERCOURSE is not about gender at all, it's 100% about biological sex. It's about whether or not you're attracted to a penis or a vagina- it has nothing to do with being attracted to something masculine or feminine.
That part of you is biologically a male thing, so the only people who will find that attractive are men who find penises sexually attractive (gay or bi)
You wanting to be feminine or identifying as a female gender is up to you. Other people can respect that choice, but you can't expect them to change their sexual orientation to suit your preference.
Straight men find penises disgusting sexually. That is all there is to it.
>>29897497
Testing with a silicone dick, though pretty big one (5.5" length from "base", and 5" girth), every thrust would hit the prostate.
I think I'd end up coming during sex if his dick is that big.
But, I think you should enjoy yourself in life, and if you like things that aren't vanilla, you should peruse them with your partner (as long as it doesn't leave permanent damage).
Though, vanilla sex could be hot too, if the right dynamic is there... On the other hand, hard to have "vanilla anal sex", since anal isn't really considered vanilla.
>>29897360
Do you consider yourself a hot dickgirl or a man with gynecomastia?
>>29897583
No matter how much you try to tell yourself, you finding hairy ftms attractive makes you gay, you're not straight.
>>29897592
When I'm done with transition, I've managed to fix my bloating issue (I hope I can fix it at least... otherwise I don't know what I'll do), and exercised, I'd say I would look ok.
Don't know if I'll managed to finish my transition, so my motivation to actually do anything is pretty much bottomed.
>>29896394
HAHAHAHA faggot
mentally ill blox
>>29897658
>so my motivation to actually do anything is pretty much bottomed
Very robot-like anon.
Try to stay strong...
>>29897120
>cum from prostate
You don't "cum" from prostate stimulation.
There is a buildup, and a release, but it's not an orgasm. It triggers a sort of "cleaning of the pipes" in your penis, so if you've edged before it will unload whatever you had there, but you won't feel the same enjoyment as cumming, and you will be able to actually properly cum within a minute, without the usual down time after a proper orgasm.
What you want to do is achieve an orgasm, via stimulating your penis, at the same time as you are getting this fake orgasm, the spasms triggered by prostate stimulation.
This will give you the joy of an actual orgasm, amplified by the extra spasm and tension.
However, cumming without touching your dick is not happening. This is something invented by pornography, they have men edge to have precum in their dicks, then unload that precum via the spasms from prostate stimulation.
Real life game men, at least ones that weren't raised on western porn and lied to, don't even have anal sex often. Most gays take turns giving each other blowjobs or frothing. Anal is done occasionally, but you will always jerk off while receiving, since thats how you get off. The dick in your bum serves to further arouse you, not to actually physically cause you to orgasm. Its a mental thing.
>>29897767
cum = orgasm.
I don't ejaculate anything other than a bit of precum. It's completely transparent, and not much quantity.
Penis orgasm is quite underwhelming anyway, I rather just take the "fake orgasm" from prostate.
>>29897749
It's really bullshit. There's all these health care stuff "in place", but what they offer isn't actually sufficient to medically do anything.
So you end up having to pay for most things yourself.
At the moment, I'm trying to get them to actually understand the situation, and let me get it done in a more local clinic, with as intensive treatment as I need.
It's likely not gonna work out, so I'll have to find another financial help thing, and hope they accept it, since it's about $10k I'll have to fund myself.
If I can't get the money, I'll die, like the rest.
Really fucking bullshit, after they've wasted all that money on getting insufficient education on me, and giving me financial support to be a NEET. So stupid, it's no wonder the economy is getting worse and worse.
All they care about is that it looks good on paper, for their own economical institutes, even if it taxes other institutes heavily. Even though each of these institutes gets their money from the same source, the government.
>>29897658
Can you post a photo of yourself?
>>29897897
Why does it matter?
And no.
>>29897767
>Real life game men
Meant "gay men" of course.
>>29897853
It isn't an orgasm. The word orgasm has a meaning, and spamming because your "we are full, better eject" button in your trash compartment is getting pushed repeatedly isn't it.
Thats fine, you can find pleasure wherever you want, and apparently for many modern gay men placebo is good enough, but don't spread misinformation.
>>29897920
Just want to know how is your progress. Why no?
>>29897975
>spamming
Spasming*
Fucking auto-correct.
>>29897975
You can't compare gay men to mtf, you obtuse retard.
Sexually we don't work the same, hormone influence your sexual function, a lot.
For example, I don't have any "refraction" period, the only thing I've noticed happen is that I might start to lose some sensitivity (sometimes almost completely), but not this almost "pain" thing that you get when you're on testosterone.
We don't ejaculate, and the sensation of cumming from your penis isn't at all the same, it's like fucking nothing when you're on hormones. Also, how you get turned one COMPLETELY changes as well.
There's a shit ton of difference, and your "BUT YOU*RE BIOLOGICAL MAN SO IT MUST BE THE SAME!!! GOD IS ALMIGHTY!!!" is plain and simple retarded.
I seriously don't get how you can think that sex hormones don't have an affect on your sexual function.
There's been people claiming that a prostate orgams is great, and etc.
>>29898047
Nuking your penis so it can fit in panties doesn't give you magic ass orgasm powers, young lady.
I am only trying to help, and I am doing this from pity, not hatred.
>>29897767
Informative!
>>29897853
You must be in the US? Their healthcare system truly seems like a nightmare.
Dunno if that's much better here in Canada for this stuff though. Or any stuff really. But at least there's much less paperwork.
I do think like that. If they're going to invest at all in their citizens, they should see them through. The US has so many social issues that it won't address and that end up being giant money sinks too. Maybe if the job situation ever gets better they'll start valuing their citizens more since they'll have a use for them.
>If I can't get the money, I'll die, like the rest.
Damn anon... :(
>>29896394
fuck off snowflake. Original btw
>>29898011
I think I'm being taken as androgynous, but honestly, there's no real way to know how people interpret me.
They might just assume I'm trans, I really have no idea.
>>29898076
Maybe not, but penis orgasm are practically nothing, while they tend to be quite intense for males.
So, it just doesn't seem like much of a difference to incorporate penis stimulation into it.
>>29898077
Oh, no, not from the US. I don't think the US has any health care system for trans people, you have to be lucky to get any insurance help, afaik.
This is in the rich part of Europe.
But the thing is, the trans care has not developed at all, it's practically not changed for the last 50 years.
For example, there are rules within the health care that all care must be shaped based on the individuals needs... However, with the trans care, there need to be no regard for the personal needs, but rather follow a policy.
My issue is facial hair, and you need at the very least 14 hours a month, for it to have optimal effect. But they only offer 4 hours a month, which basically means you'll never get anywhere, unless you focus a very small area, and it'll take years if you focus a small are at a time, and maybe a decade if you just take hairs from anywhere.
The clinic I suggested them would mean it'd be mostly done after half a year, to a year. The cost for them would be something like 1/3rd to 1/5th.
Only problem they see is that it'd tax their own system more, money wise, where as if they don't agree to it the taxation will go onto other parts of the medical economical system.
>>29896723
Because even straight men arent naturally repulsed by dicks. Personally dicks do nothing for me, i get neither disgusted nor aroused. What turns me off (as a straight man) are male secondary and tertiary features.
>>29898188
>Oh, no, not from the US.
Hey. I saw that. You were sneering at the US. God damned Europe is gonna be paying us tribute soon!
>>29898307
I'm straight too, so why am I averse to dicks? Am I just insecure? Am I just overcompensating because I'm secretly gay?
>>29898334
>God damned Europe is gonna be paying us tribute soon!
I doubt it.
The US economy is probably going to collapse, iirc their debt grows with more every year than their total yearly budget.
Which will probably cause global insability, and who knows, maybe WW3 starts.
The future looks pretty grim, just one more reason to suicide in ~5 years.
>>29898356
It might just be social conditioning. I personally dont, but naturally men are actually supposed to get aroused at the sight of dicks, something to do with the cavemen days were we used to engage in regular gangbangs.
I would never fuck a tranny though. The idea that im fucking a dude completely turns me off. Plus the dick would at the very least make me really uncomfortable.
>>29896394
You should probably just kill yourself, you'll do it eventually anyway, its the fate of all disgusting trannies.
>>29898387
>I would never fuck a tranny though.
Bah. I don't get why they get so much hate. I don't care if they were biologically male. They make themselves so much physically and psychologically like women that I would be just fine with it I think. The sex might be awkward (or just at first) but it's not all there is to the relationship. Even if you wouldn't be OK with it you could show more compassion. OP is hurting... I don't get why r9k has to be so mean all the time.
>>29898369
>The US economy is probably going to collapse, iirc their debt grows with more every year than their total yearly budget.
Doesn't work quite like that though. Maybe for other countries it would. But the US is the world's sole hegemon. It controls the world's reserve currency (in which most of its foreign debts are held (which it doesn't even HAVE to pay anyway)). It (indirectly) controls a large amount of the world's energy resources too (which also backs their currency). No other country could beat them militarily.
Their economy cannot collapse (not due to external debt anyway), but they could lose control over the world's financial system if their currency somehow loses its special status. Which would lead to them losing much of their influence over the rest of the world. And lead to instabilities and conflicts.
But most likely everything is going according to plans. The US are incredibly powerful. They know their current schemes cannot last forever and they already have new ones set into motion. Debts and currencies can be manipulated.
I really don't think anything bad is going to happen within a few decades. No additional reason for anyone to kill themselves there!
>>29898657
THAT'S RIGHT!
Nobody disrespects the US in ANY THREAD WHATSOEVER!
America is all powerful!
Dude.. you typed all that in a transsexuals thread, that's... pretty autistic.
