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Can we get a woman hate thread going on?
I really really need this.
>>29887771
I've got you, desu. Don't 404 on me!
>>29887771
Dumping has commenced. Come on in, robots, these threads are what keep the rebbit normies triggered and OFF OUR BOARD REEEE
>>29888675
ROASTIES CANNOT BE TRUSTED RIIII
Enough with all the infographs in this thread, let me post a video instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80
>>29888681
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING CREATURES
INCAPABLE OF KINDNESS OR LOYALTY
got you f4m, good thing we will never marry
>>29888645
Fewer women use tindr. Of course their graph is far less likely to look like a bell. They wanna fuck hot guys and they have tons to choose from.
>>29888681
DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRICKS OF THE VAGINAL JEW
WRYYYYYY
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/11/first-world-war-white-feather-cowardice
http://www.angryharry.com/Men-Are-Worthless.htm
>>29887771
B-BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH SPECIAL GIRL???
>>29888726
DON'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR ROASTIE SCUM
THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE
>>29888717
Shit like this makes merealize that the Taliban were the good guys
>>29888675
You'll never hear an advocate for environmentalism preaching for child rights in India AS environmentalists. Doesn't mean they don't support the cause, retards. Just that they're busy talking about goddamn trees.
Honestly all of these posts are complete trash. Misogyny is a waste of meme.
>>29888767
BETA UPRISING WHEN?!?$??$??
TO XREIAZOMASTE TWRA
>>29888774
if women just broke off a piece for the the less fortunate like true humanitarians, the world would be a much happier place
>>29888774
Fuck off back to le rebbit or kikebook, normie scum
REEEEEEEEEE
>>29888774
>Feminism is supposed to help everyone teehee it helps men too!
>How can you expect feminists to advocate for equality when it benefits men? That's ridiculous!!!
Normie doublethink is astounding
>>29887771
we sure fucking can!
>>29888727
>1.5mil
Shit nigga, I'd do the same
>>29888888
checked, my good man
oirenago
I sure hope the robot doesnt mute me again!
>>29887771
HERE WE GOOOOOOOO ORIGINAL COMMERONTO
>>29888879
Heartless indeed. These animals need to be controlled.I suggest pic related
are "fembots" real? or are they just roasties in disguise, do we hate them?
>>29888918
This made me RIIIIIIII
If this is real, good on him for screenshotting.
>>29888935
the only thing closer to a fembot is tomoko, and yet tomoko has friends, finds lose males disgusting and adores bishie chad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA
women and men can NOT be friends
whenever you think you couldn't hate women more, something else comes up
>>29888935
Fembots are not real. Only newfags and normie invaders think fembots exist.
>>29888727
did he at least get compensation
>>29888935
nope, they literally do not and can not exist
>>29887771
I like these threads. They'll never eliminate my innate desire to be kind and caring to women, but they will help me to stay the fuck away from women an relationships.
I'm so glad that I know getting married and having kids is a great way to not live a life for yourself
Here's something to think about:
>women have it so much better than men that men are literally transforming into them
>>29888918
Anyone who thinks this is real has literal autism.
This is not how normal people communicate. Nothing to see here.
>>29888983
I think so, desu fampai
Dead giveaway.. deaaad giveaway
>>29889017
it doesn't matter if it's real or not, things like that happen all the time
>>29889025
What show released in 2007??
>>29889017
But we all have autism, this is r9k
>>29888965
Guys are disgusting, sex-crazed animals what the fuck.
>>29889017
>This is not how normal people communicate
You're right. It's actually how normies communicate. There is a difference.
>>29889022
>Picture has no backstory of what happened between 10-14
Could have possibly been the guys fault you know. Probably not, but still.
>>29889054
blame evolution? this is how 90% of guys actually think. most women realize it and just manipulate guys because they know the guy wants to fuck them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQmqxQgEBY
>>29888797
To be honest I would consider doing the same if I did the male equivalent of that. She went from 4/10 to 8/10, and her husband's probably stayed 4/10. I'd not settle for a 4/10 wife if I became 8/10 myself.
Stable relationships are built on equivalency. The value of the partners must be somewhat equal (not necessarily in the same area, but a beautiful wife needs to be matched by at least a successful, driven, confident husband, etc).
>>29888711
holy
fucking
shit
I cant even tfw or mfw
theres just no way to even react
>>29889022
I'm tired of seeing that one. The two on the right look like a completely different couple. Plus, they look like they're in high school on the left and they were already together long enough for the girl to lose what looks like 50-70 pounds. Couples split up, they drift apart, high school relationships end. I'd be more surprised if 4 years later, they were still together.
>>29889086
Or maybe they actually want friends because friendship is tits and some guys are pretty cool.
I can call literally anything evolution and it will be true. Everything has a cause. Being able to point at it doesn't negate the effect.
>>29887771
I have a theory.
Women are intellectually myopic. They concern themselves with problems directly in front of them with little forethought about any non-trivial consequence.
Men are more interesting in creating generalised systemic solutions that work across many problems. Men create base theories that solve many different problems in a coherent manner.
If you will women are focused on the battle, men on the war
The major issue is that we are taught to believe we are intellectually identical. So men try to apply this masculine heuristic to feminine behaviour and of course it makes no sense and seems incredibly dumb. I think this is the source of a huge amount of frustration and general bitterness towards women.
>>29888727
there
are
no
words
FUCKING
>>29889130
>Or maybe they actually want friends because friendship is tits and some guys are pretty cool.
did you watch the same video? the girls in that video all straight up said that the guys they are "friends" with are actually into them and would fuck them given a split second chance
so...they realize this....and try to mask it as "friendship." how the fuck is that a friendship?
>>29889022
Is the one on the right even the same girl???
It looks like camgirl Nikki Diamond69
>>29888888
HOLY SHIT WITNESSED MY ORIGINAL MAN
>>29888767
>Muscular, well-endowed, relaxed and a little beerbelly
Maybe I should get on Tinder.
>>29888935
> Female
> Robot
> Literally an oxymoron
We get female visitors because it is literally not in our power to stop them, but roast beef is roast beef man. Doesn't matter how histrionic it is. Just ignore and hide all roastie threads.
>>29889137
>if you will women are focused on the battle, men on the war
nope
women are focused on the decorations on their shield and how cute their armor looks, men are focused on, ya know, everything else that matters
kill them all RIIIIIIIIEEEEEE
>>29888726
TThis is for okcupid. I can't imagine how tinder sluts rate men
You are all just jealous you can't be a normalfag and get pussy
>>29889242
this is one of my favoirites tbqh desufam honest
>>29889173
Why is it no longer friendship if one side wants to date the other? Can the two not hang out and enjoy the other's company as they both have their own romantic lives? It's not like any female friend to a guy is his oneitis.
I'd consider myself a friend to a guy I wanted to date because I can find more things than are meaningful in a relationship than sex. And I think most men can, too, but the video was obviously made with a gender. He asked suspiciously fewer men.
>>29888888
NH&KDANH&NH&KD
>>29889253
probably is even worse than that, it's probably more like they rate 10-15% of men attractive and the rest are garbage
>>29889255
normalfags don't get pussy idiot, they orbit and get platonic hugs
chad gets pussy
>>29889271
*with an agenda lol
>>29889202
lol
>>29889237
What is your explanation for women that are generally successful then?
Does your cunt hang low?
Does it wobble to and fro?
Can you tie it in a knot?
Can you tie it in a bow?
Can you throw it over your shoulder like a continental soldier?
Does you cunt hang low?
>>29888967
The absurdity of this story is something else. I mean, shit, any mother I know would literally fucking die in a fire for the slightest chance to save their little ones.
>>29889277
You just have to find a chick with a beta fetish. They exist, but are rarer than the rarest of pepes
>>29888888
CHECK'D
Couldn't have happened in a better thread
>>29889271
>Why is it no longer friendship if one side wants to date the other?
because you are not a man and you do not think like a man
you want to know what it's like being around a girl you want to be with as a man?
"i want to be with her i want to be with her i want to be with her i want to be with her"
basically something like that repeated over and over and over and mix in some misery, depression and anxiety into that mix. it really isn't just about sex, that's a huge part, but not all of it.
>>29889050
Mother of fucking god, what have you done?
Have you just fucking red-pilled me?
>>29889357
Fucking snotcock men.
Bullshit btw. That at least doesn't apply to all guys. Not to guys with options... which I guess is why attractive men/men who have their shit together are easier to be friends with.
>>29889325
only as long as their child is a cute tiny baby that cant even walk
when it grows up women stop caring shockingly fast
>>29889464
I don't know what kind of mother you have, but that's generally not true.
>>29889100
Good looks last 15 years max.
>>29889271
This is what I mean by feminine myopic thinking.
Men can foresee the inevitable emotional shitfest in this situation. They may not have the will power to remedy the situation but at least they have the intellectual honesty to admit how shit it is.
Women on the other hand are more concerned with the momentary interaction with these men. Treating him as a friend is pleasant/easy, admitting the relationship imbalance and likely emotional turmoil is not
>>29889448
Fuck off, roastie. You like Chad. Chad is not in this thread. I'm sure tumblr or rebbit might care about your normie opinions, leave
>>29889490
Yeah, nah. There's a world of difference between 8/10 and 4/10 until a fairly advanced age.
Of course, you tend to have to bring something else to the table as well beyond looks.
>>29889490
only for women.
men age well, look at george clooney
>>29889505
No, no. I'm rejecting the premise. The premise is bullshit. It's not true of all men. Men and women can be friends, despite this guy cherry-picking his male responses and declaring male-female relationships "impossible" despite GAY MEN EXIST.
Right off the bat it's a crock of shit.
If it were, I'd accept the conclusion.
>>29889486
a mother who was too busy working to give a fuck about me, like most the mothers of most millenials nowadays
feminism, be it first or third wave, is cancer
>>29889448
and that is why you are attracted to men who do not give a fuck about you
most guys think like that, chads just hide it better, or, they are just straight up sociopaths and don't really care about you one bit, you're just one of many wet holes they fuck in rotation
>>29889511
Meme? Meme meme meme, meme meme meme meme, anon.
>>29889565
Oh, no way, it's different for fags? Wild world out there.
>this thread
orgiami
>>29889565
>despite GAY MEN EXIST.
lol now i know you don't know what you're talking about, gay men fucking hate women. women treat them like their little gay pets when they are teens and they grow to fucking hate you.
if two people are in a "friendship" and one of them is attracted to the other, it's a ONE SIDED relationship. HOW is that a friendship?
>>29889578
No mang, that's not how most mother's are. I'm sorry yours was terrible, but that is not broadly applicable.
>>29889581
Hasn't happened to me even once, actually. I care more about personality.
>>29889598
It is different for them, for starters. Just pointing out that the premise is demonstrably wrong with zero effort. I guess that's me just being concerned with the details of an argument, because I'm not memeing.
>>29889628
who said mine was terrible? I'm saying she had to go to work like most other women post feminism, and there's a problem with that
meanwhile stacey is getting creampie gangbanged by chad, thad and brad
>>29889668
See:
>>>29889464
>when it grows up women stop caring shockingly fast
This is untrue.
>>29889652
>fags
>men
Out of here with your false equivalency
>>29889606
haha no. that pic is meant for /pol/
>>29889652
>Hasn't happened to me even once, actually. I care more about personality
how about you think about your past relationships and try and figure out who was the one more in love with the other
i'm going to take a wild guess and say the guys were more in love with you than you were with them
>>29889624
Sorry, I didn't know that all gay men hate women. I guess that wasn't immediately obvious to me, but you know better. You're so worldly, anon.
As to your question, it's a mutual friendship with unreciprocated sexual interest. Or it's just a friendship and neither party is sexually interested, as could often happen with friendships involving, for example, an ugly woman.
>>29889722
/pol/ and /r9k/ are both low test cuck nests where it is applicable.
>>29889697
I'm not drawing that conclusion from personal experience and neither should you
>Predominantly women, not men, kill children
http://fathersforlife.org/articles/report/resptojw.htm
>>29889565
Okay, I agree it is a small video, a tiny sample and not a controlled study in any way. Even if it was I would agree with you that it likely does not apply to 100% of men. Things rarely apply to literally everyone of a gender. It is more about the general trends, maybe 70% of men or something like that.
Secondly the reason why this video is compelling is because it echoes what most men already think. It has 9.5 million views and a shit load of likes. If the majority of men disagreed with the sentiment of the video I doubt it would have received the reception that it has.
>>29889759
Kek, quoting murder statistics for own children? How often, exactly, are children murdered at all? Once in a hundred thousand? Once in ten thousand? Once in a million? Is this supposed to be proof of mothers in general not loving their children?
>>29889738
the only way a man and woman can be friends is if neither is attracted to the other. that's it.
once you bring attraction into it the friendship turns into one sided bullshit, and it's usually the guy who falls in love with the girl. that's just what happens, you don't understand it because you are not a male,
>>29889539
You got me there. Hell I'D fuck George Clooney.
>>29889704
:P
>>29889724
Wrong.
Slut should have sticked to whoring herself out at night.
>>29889822
>Wrong.
k so you went out with chads and you were more in love with them than they were with you
ty
>>29889833
[Citation needed]
origami origami
>>29889800
>The DHHS data shows that of children abused by one parent between 2001 and 2006, 70.6% were abused by their mothers, whereas only 29.4% were abused by their fathers.
https://www.mensrightshalifax.com/international/safer-with-their-fathers-children-2-4x-more-likely-to-be-killed-by-their-mothers-boys-murdered-more-often/
>>29889760
The majority of men *who see this video.
Who's the targeted audience here? Who was already subscribed? I mean, I agree that probably it is a huge number of men but general trends are a terrible and unpragmatic way of viewing people.
In a world of billions, there are too many exceptions to the rule that the rule is pretty much only worth ignoring to assess individual situations.
I suppose this is the myopic view. I prefer case-by-case to big picture. I wonder which is the more socially viable perspective, cuz I'm autistic anyway.
>>29888717
Growing up i know an ex cop stuck in a wheelchair after getting shot. He had a gorgeous family and a gorgeous wife but somethings not right here. See divorced father of childhood friend hanging around. Surprised they know each other. He literally looks like ned flanders with a fanny pack. Days later catch them being kin of touchy while husband is in other room. Completely open in public with other guests around.
Ask gf what's up since she knew her longer.
MFW she's cheating on ex-cop bro with flanders.
Highly considered telling cop bro but moved away before i got a chance. Stopped talking to everyone involved. Later hear from ex her mom didn't have cancer all along and is going to jail for fraud.
Literally the scum of the earth. Idk if i can really woman hate though since i'm on myself.
>>29889858
:( Anon, it sucks that you literally can't imagine any other possibility. Don't worry, it's not your fault you're retarded.
>>29889964
here's a possibility - you're a female on r9k, they most likely left your ass because you're a fucking mental case and/or fat
>>29888967
Although that sounds horrible isn't that what you're supposed to do in a fire? I thought if you go looking to save other people it usually ends up killing your both because fire fighters can't focus on the ones that couldn't have escaped.
>>29889957
Go back to /lgbt/, and stay there if "u idk if u can really hate woman".
Part 2, it got even worse. Why are women so incapable of abstract thinking? In my four years in University I never met a women who I could count on for a coding project. They are literally unable to take responsibility and go through with a task on their own. Stupid cunts always need to have their hands held and have zero frustration tolerance when things don't work out.
Never trust women friendos they don't worth the effort.
>>29889924
It is just a question of feasibility. Sure it would be great to intimately know everyone individually but we have limited time and information processing capabilities.
General rules of thumb help create an architecture to rapidly make sense of situations and environments
In deep personal relationships you would go well beyond these rules of thumb but most interactions dont evolve to this level
>>29890023
I'm moving to Japan for work. It's more or less a mutual split. He claims he'd wait for me, but I think the reality of his situation is crashing down on him and he's just afraid he'll end up alone. He spent most of our relationship breaking up with me for a few weeks at a time or belittling me and calling me awkward all the time even though I was trying so fucking hard not to be. He'd criticize me about any physical interaction we had.
Except when he was wonderful and smart (in a special way) and funny and sometimes he really helped me with some of his criticism (advice).
Relationships aren't clearcut.
>>29890092
Hurt I'm taking all the good puss? :^ )
>>29890162
did you not just say you care more about personality?
how do you end up with someone like that when you care more about personality?
am i losing my mind or something or are you just kind of crazy?
>>29890142
Alright, but acting on these rules of thumb is a gamble. Why gamble when you could take a little extra time to assess the situation more deeply, with more specialized categorization.
For a more concrete example,
When would you actually need to apply these women-hate concepts? Why assume a woman is a total whore just because she has more male friends, for example. She could easily just be a really cool person. Of course, I don't know which women-hate memes you buy into, if any...
>>29890281
>Why assume a woman is a total whore just because she has more male friends
those types of girls are usually insufferable, even if they didn't fuck their entire group of male friends. at best she's just an attention whore
>>29888711
I hope that's not true..
If there is a hell I hope people like that bitch go to it.
>>29889022
4 years is a pretty long time anything could have happened. Even though I don't think that is the same girl.
>>29890222
I do care more about personality. Most of him being an asshole was him struggling to fulfill a "teacher" role for his little autist, and make sure I would stay because theoretically it would work. I knew what he was doing, so a lot of the time I wouldn't let it get to me and in return he would accept me being quiet at family get-togethers. It's just sometimes he was a little too on-the-nose, or he'd break up with me the second he felt he was losing control. I'd assure him he wasn't because I care about and understand his insecurities. I do love him, it's just he'd ruin me in a marriage.
How about some good news involving women.
So I recently got a another job servicing a two large freshwater aquariums (more like fountain water features with fish) in DC. Apparently they hired me to replace some girl they had issue with.
Boss straight up told me the reason they fired this girl who despite being a college grad with a marine bio degree didn't know jack shit about actually taking care of fish and the lifesupport/filter equipment.
She apparently panicked and had a breakdown because she didn't know what an "extension cord" was when an emergency pump desperately need ed to be turned on.
How the fuck can you not know what an extension cord is. What the fuck do people even learn in college these days outside of hard science and arts degrees?
>>29888711
Guess it's time to share mine. Not as horrible as you posted, but still quite horrible.
> Me few years back, 20yo
> Get together with gal around July, first serious relationship i've ever had
> Truly loved her
> We had a great summer together
> Around October, she starts to become intensely depressed
> Tells me she's bipolar (i didn't even know beforehand)
> Downward spiral from there, quits school, only sits inside all day. Sleeps at least 10 to 12 hours a day. I move in at her place to help her out.
> All the time she's awake she's either lying in bed, sometimes plays LoL if she has some energy, but nothing else.
> Every night she's crying, screaming that she wants to die. Could go on for a long time, sometimes half of the night.
> I did most of her chores, i still going to school and have a job.
> One day i come home and she's all covered in blood after auto-mutilating. Like a serious amount of blood
> Get her to the ER
> At least once or twice a week i go with her to therapy to support her
> Can't focus at school, horrible grades. Often not showing up due to having to care for her. Quit my job. Barely go to social attendings anymore.
> Over half a year later, she's getting better
> No more than a month later i caught her cheating on me
> Relationship gets worse
> Only a week later she breaks up. I never understood why
> Get depressed myself
> She hooks up with my best friend, one of the few people i was still in touch with and the one i thought supported me most.
> I have a mental breakdown.
cont:
>>29890326
But if she isn't insufferable, if she didn't fuck her entire group of male friends, and if she isn't an attention whore... you'll never know and never have your retarded paradigm corrected or even challenged.
I could never live in such willful ignorance. It's kind of shameful. But if you have different priorities, that's cool, too.
>>29890409
> Can't make shit sense of what happened, i blame myself. Downward spiral to severe depression and psychosis.
> Have the most fucking awful time of my life. I can't even understand anymore what crazy shit i was doing.
> Desperately trying to cling to life, but otherwise borderline suicidal. I hated myself, and i'd be better off dead and do all of society and the world a favour by doing so.
> One day i'm fed up with it and decide to jump off my apartment building. Shouting to myself "This is what you wanted right? Do it then"
> Couldn't do it.
> Tons of drug/alcohol use ensued. (not the really hard stuff, but i've spent a good amount of time and money on molly, cocaine and speed)
> Slowly recovered, but never completely.
It's been a few years now and i'm not fixed. I do realize it's her fault. Not mine.
If i ever fall back into that state of mind, i already planned it out. I will take that bitch with me before i pull the trigger to my own head. She deserves it.
>women in the military
>>29890415
every single girl i have ever know that was like the "cool chick" in the group just fucked all of the guys there at one time or another
i can think of at least 3 girls off the top of my head who were like this. i'm all for these types of truly cool chicks existing, but i have never met one
>>29890415
Another anon here.
The odds that she is some kind of unicorn are astronomical, which makes the risk too great to put in an effort to find out
>>29890461
Wow, 3? Holy shit, that's like pretty much all cool women, isn't it. That's practically legitimate data, far surpassing the usual anecdotal evidence.
I'm not going to combat yours with mine, because... well, it would be equally worthless.
>>29890549
Wow, I sound really angry.
:( Sorry, this kind of thread triggers me. I can't see what's emotional argument and what's meme.
>>29890549
sorry i don't have a 'cool girl spreadsheet' of every single female in the world
i'd say there are only about 2 or 3 more cool girls in the entire world tho
>>29890610
its ok
want to be my gf?
>>29890281
everything in life is a gamble/calculated risk sweetheart.
Of course my intuition will likely be wrong a significant amount of the time but that does not immediately render it useless.
You seem to be stuck on this idea that something has to be 100% perfect or it is of no use.
>>29890460
KEKEKEKEEKKEKEKEKEk
>>29890429
What's her name,
Oregeno
>be me at job
>raised to be polite to everyone
>talking with co-worker
>find out we have things in common
>start hanging outside work
>would watch netflix at my place
>she'd try to put her head in my lap
>her friends would call and ask when I'm gonna fuck her
>always bring up sex, talk about she wants to ride dick
>always tell her shut up or get out of my house
>one day she text me out of the blue
>"I just gave _____ a blowjob in a parking lot"
>ask her if she's joking
>"no lol I really did it I was just curious"
>she's still in highschool and she knows I'm a reserved person
>get pissed off, send her a long txt cursing her out
>"lol I was just kidding haha you don't have to get jealous :^)"
>stop talking to her
>mfw I just wanted to be her friend but she just wanted me to fuck her
>mfw women only view me as a walking dildo
I don't want 1 night stands but women sure seem to
>>29890718
Stereotypes have utility in marketing. Why? Because it's large scale. It doesn't have to work 100%. If you can get a good 70% to come and buy your product, yippee.
On an individual level, though? It IS all or nothing. You should at least try to come as close to 100% as you can, or you've lost that individual and you have nothing to fall back on from that single social transaction, which is honestly way more valuable in your life than single clients in a marketing scheme.
I hear what you're saying, though. You're not absolutely wrong, you've just got a different style that prioritizes in a way that fits your logical system.
>>29890863
Okay I thoughtlessly based my argument on something that would make more sense if we were arguing PUA and not misogyny. Not that they're mutually exclusive, but we were talking about more of a red flag type deal.
so i should be talking about opportunity costs or some shit. Sorry for wasting your time with that lol
>>29889303
I'm not him but I think we all recognize that there are dick-ladies just like there are pussy, wimp-men (if you can call them men). That doesn't invalidate his point.
In fact, it could prove his point because the women who are upper-top income level (generally successful) are pediatricians, psychiatrists, veterinarians, and school administrators. In these jobs they don't have to think about things like "risk mitigation" or "accepted losses" like an international business mogul, a tank battalion commander, or a President of the United States all would. They just have to be workaholics and do what is placed in front of them.
>>29889303
There are more women who would rather just take care of chad and decorate for the battle than women who would willingly stand and fight for a common cause.
>>29889837
I thought coding was hard when I first started, I'm not great or anything but I would never have whored myself out in that way? Why would you brag about your weakness and failure? I can not comprehend this mindset.
Are you so used to people helping you out no matter what? Being so pampered? Honestly it's kind of sad that this person has no expectations on themselves, I can not imagine living like that
>>29889754
kill yourself, tumblr cunt
>>29890136
left guy looks like a gigantic faggot though, 5/10 at bes
>>29890409
>tells you she's bipolar
>not cutting all ties instantly
The phrase ''incapable of love'' wasn't incentive enough to fucking break up?
>>29888888
CHECKED 8MAN
I don't actually hate women, I just resent my own loneliness
But it all feels the same anyways
I just searched "short guys" on Twitter...most relevant results are girls talking about how they love short guys. Not what I was expecting. (I'm 6'1")
>>29890081
not when the kid is 6 dumbass. she's too scared to think of any of that shit she is still too young to get herself a glass of water and you want her to save herself from a fire
plenty of girls love short guys
>>29888681
this one is actually true doe.
works for both men and women.
/r9k/ give me your opinion on a girl I know. Here's what she's like:
>blonde hair, blue eyes
>likes to work out
>average body (can tell she used to be chubbier but she's working it down)
>happy, bubbly, giggly
>Christian good girl type of personality (not the closeted slut type though)
>loves baking and other traditional feminine activities
>not a party girl
>wants me
Is she the perfect woman? She's the opposite of all there vapid sluts who are soo easy to hate
>>29892042
get it while it's hot
>>29889837
isnt that that chick who is literally a self-admitted pedophile?
>>29892042
who knows? go for it, but be carefull, around women never relax
>>29892477
Basically just waiting for her to move back to my city for university again after the summer. In the mean time, I'm not sitting and pining after her
>>29888965
>that guy eating
based
>>29889100
So the husband takes her in as an ugly cow and probably provides the support needed (financial, emotional and otherwise) for her to turn into into an 8/10 and then gets thrown to the curb like yesterday's trash. And that's justifiable? k
>>29890136
me on the left me on the left
>>29889022
the left looks like a chad also
bump
dfssgfdgsdfag
>>29888681
She looks creepy.
>>29888767
i smell a garbage source
>>29892566
Everything is relative. Maybe he enjoyed the relationship enough to provide the support.
>>29890460
Fucking people always throw the match
>>29890099
>can't solve problem
>get mad and give up
>laugh off being dumb as fuck
>>29888888
Sweet Jesus.
originallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
>>29890099
Holy shit do people actually pay $300 for a fucking nude backside photograph what the fuck.
>>29888727
Break her face. Stupid cunt.
>>29890409
Dude I hate to be a hard ass but yes it's totally your fault. Why would you go all out for some stupid crazy bitch like that? She clearly was manipulating you psychologically. I understand you were in love but damn dude, I would've walked out when she started cutting herself and was all super depressed. She fucked you over big time. Im just mad at you that you would neglect your studies/school success for one stupid bitch. You should know that a lot of girls our age are fake and not to be taken seriously in terms of love and commitment. I know a girl who has major depressive disorder and she fucked over my friend big time. They dated and he cared for her a lot and then she cheated on his ass and blamed him for being too "clingy". My mom hates that bitch for what she did to my friend. Don't let that happen again man. You come first always.
I get the feeling you guys might like this thread.
>>29893841
>>29891598
Proves
>>29888645
Unless you're a guy. Then you're a hypocrite for calling him a fag after judging his appearance.
>>29890830
>implying she wasn't toying with your libido and trying to make a literal cuck out of you just to boost her own self worth
>>29891697
>posts a pic detailing how ridiculously shallow and evil women are
>implies this isn't all their fault
>>29888727
hell, i would've actually raped her when i got out
he did the time he should get to do the crime too
>>29888681
She looks cool.
The best thing about these threads are the fanny flustered roasties that literally can't even.
>>29889606
That's not a quote by Descartes you fucking retard it's a quote by some loser in 2010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1011498
The fact you would actually believe that a philosopher would think about fucking stupid shit like that tells me that you're one of the actual idiots that DarkShikari is talking about.
What do I do robots? This girl I talk to knows I like her but keeps saying she doesn't know when I ask if there is even a thing between us. She's dated other guys and even had sex once but I just don't want to feel alone anymore. I'm trying my best to put myself out of my comfort zone but I get nothing in return but being asked for compliments. Is there hope for me? What should I do?
>>29890136
This is fucking bullshit that guy is definitely hot enough to get a girlfriend you retard. You're not single because you're "Well mannered, well-intentioned, quiet, shy, intellectual" you're single because you're a fucking loser and you don't actually fucking talk to girls.
>>29894861
Drop her and try again with someone else. She's fucking around with you.
>>29894861
You should quit being a fucking pussy you don't "ask if there is even a thing between us" you ask her out on a date, are you fucking stupid. If she didn't like you she would say "No", jesus christ why do these fucking autists come here and ask us for advice when the problem would be solved if you would ACT LIKE A HUMAN FUCKING BEING.
>>29894902
I know. My depression makes me feel like there is something but it's all a lie.
>>29894913
I did ask her anon. She said 'idk' but she always acts all in love and cute when around me.
>>29894935
I get a feeling yours and her definitions of "ask her" are different. Say "Hey do you wanna go out to a date at <olive garden idfk> on <fucking saturday or some shit>?"
>>29895009
No you don't understand. I DID. I did just that and asked to go someplace "I'm Canadian so Tim Hortons"
She says I 'have a chance' but I just feel shitty.
>>29889957
>lesbian
Post your address so we can all come and rape you straight
>>29887771
Some shitty mobile caps I took of an anons story: 1
>>29895107
Some shitty mobile caps I took of an anons story: 2
I have never met a women as intelligent as me who wasn't a lesbian.
pro tip: all of humanity is fucking shit and at best we are clowns
>measurement
>truth
>>29894863
>you don't actually fucking talk to girls
>quiet, shy
what part don't you understand?
>>29895045
In that case tell her straight up, "I want to date you, so if we aren't gonna go out then I'm gonna stop going after you"
Women and their "music"
>>29895245
>implying fembots are real
>implying "fembots" aren't stacy's who don't get enough attention irl
>implying implications
pic unrelated
>>29895274
I'm deep in what you call "the post-pill" but that doesn't mean I can't find some entertainment in these threads
>>29895336
I just want it to be easy after she most likely says no. As if I another girl will pop-up and be date-able without any hassle. I hate the dating game and wish I wasn't so dependent on validation
>>29895381
Just delete women. You don't need a hole to be content. You don't need another person to validate your existence.
>>29888920
hold the fuck up, that pic
>2nd, 3rd, and 4th panels
>the 10/10 girl isn't fucking the top 3 guys
Is she the 'literally perfect' we all hope to meet?
>>29894861
She might fuck you if you tell her to fuck off and ignore her and then she sees you fuck another girl of equal or greater status.
But until that miraculous set of circumstances comes true, she's a whore and she's cucking you because that's her predominate way of interacting with men.
Her mother is a whore and her father is a sad cuck.
Look for girls with very strong, dominant fathers and more submissive mothers. Especially from a religious fundamentalist background.
Those are the ONLY women with any concept of honor or love. Ones who've been as sheltered as possible from this degenerate culture.
It's the culture that turns all women into whores. It trains them from a young age.
>>29895421
she's just too stuck-up to see any men as worthwhile
>>29895366
Psycho candy is a fantastic album who made this chart
>>29895407
I'm a sad man anon. It'll be hard for me.
>>29895477
You're right about the cuck dad part. She was a slut turned 'pure' by becoming a fundamental christian but she was brainwashed from the beginning. I need to get out but to thirsty to do so.
>>29895366
this post REEKS of /mu/
>>29895523
No it's not lol
>>29895542
/mu/ loves all of that music
>>29889578
Needing attention every 5 seconds is your fault, not your mothers
>>29895597
/mu/ only likes about 5-10 of those albums. The rest is unknown to /mu/
>>29895665
>needing attention at least every few hours as a toddler is my fault
ok
but like I said here >>29889668 , it's not really her fault
>>29895381
Hey just so you know the guy who replied to you isn't the same guy who has been giving you advice, which is me. First try looking in avenues of your life, like school or work. Then, try online dating or tinder.
>>29895715
It's a start I suppose. I need to stop believing in false hope like her. I suck offline so online dating is the way to go.
>>29889025
I tbag every girl i kill. In destiny i was up against a team with an assumed broad, who did alright for herself, but of course i was better. Tbags and high fives on her orb all day. Shes on my team the next match, stll below my score (of course) while i use her as bait for enemy fire. One more match and shes on eneny team, rinse repeat first match. But we lost the third, ally team sucked. All in all, women can suck it.
>>29889130
There is no such thing as friendships between heterosexual, opposite genders. One of you WILL develope feelings for the other. Its called biology
>>29895975
Incredibly false.
I don't get why women don't want to fuck me. I'm not that bad looking, right? Would you robots fuck me?
>I really really need this.
Awh, someone got rejected again? :'^)
>>29895828
Then that's the way to go man, just keep on trucking.
>>29896010
get out please
>>29896005
I would fuck you for a small fee
>>29896005
pretty sure it's illegal to fuck 13 year olds
>>29896010
mean whore, fuck off or suck my cock
>>29896071
Wow, only a small fee! That's better than most people who've answered that question.
>>29896035
Thanks man. I'm heading to bed but this really helped me a lot.
>>29896087
yeah just 10 bucks to prove I'm not gay and I just do it for the money
>>29896079
I'm 18, actually.
>>29896102
Dude, just say no homo. It's not gay if you say no homo.
>>29896116
yeah but 'no homo' cancels out if the balls touchthey will
>>29894808
That's the joke you god damn newfag.
Lurk more.
>>29896154
Damn. Whatever, I'm bi, I can go homo
dang this is pretty nifty
>>29895999
My personal experince trumps anything you beilive to be proof against my statement. Friendship may exist to others, im not ignorant, but in my life, the life i know around me, it happens to everyone and everything around me
>>29896116
>using no homo, ironically or not
18 is what all the underageb&'s claim, fuck off go to summer school or some shit
>>29896257
B-but I'm literally 18, admittedly my birthday was recently, but that's not the point
>>29896247
That's nice anon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions.
>>29889837
>>29890136
Can someone explain to me why this is so bad?
>>29888797
Well that's way shallow
Ante na doume pote tha ginei..
>>29896331
Sorry meant these two
>>29889837
>>29890099
>>29888797
>>29889100
>>29892566
I suffered a similar fate.
Took in a girl who was an emotional wreck. She couldn't function at all, had self esteem, confidence and social issues that were even worse than my robot/cyborg self.
I was with this girl for 10 years. I married her after 3 and stood by her, helping her through all her problems, helping her get over her anxieties.
...And the second she functioned as well as I did, she started to turn cold. The INSTANT she managed to finally not blow an interview and get a shitty part time mcjob, she stopped loving me. I didn't want to believe it at first - I told myself she was simply adjusting to married life and all couples were like this. She started to poke fun at me more and more. Then she started doing it infront friends and family. Sex stopped. Then cuddling stopped. Every expression of affection I gave was 'clingy' and 'annoying'. Finally she divorced me.
The only good thing I can say about her is that she didn't come after my money - probably because she knows I barely have any.
She fucking used me. The second she didn't need me to put her fucking brain back together, she tossed me out like garbage. We were teenage sweethearts who practically were about to hit 30 together. We never fought, never, argued, nothing. Our life was a fucking fairytale. ...Until she realized I'd built her up into someone who could finally function alone.
I don't think I'll ever let myself get attached to a woman again. I'd sooner fuck whores now. Cheaper and easier.
>>29896402
if you want to keep a whore you never actually help her, you just pretend to
I thought this was common knowledge?
at least you wont make the same mistake again
>>29896461
>at least you wont make the same mistake again
You're fucking right about that, anon.
>>29887771
How can you hate something so funny? We get to witness their meltdowns and stupid opinions every day!
>>29889155
I'd go rape her for real as I'd have immunity due to double jeopardy.
>>29894913
>ACT LIKE A HUMAN FUCKING BEING
Are you a normie? Why do you think we're here in the first place?
>>29889304
Kekoslovokia
>>29888711
This is sick, I think I'll be better off alone now, this is probably the scummiest thing ever. Completely inexcusable stuff that made me lose hope for half of humanity if real.
>>29888727
People don't have all the details. Brian Banks was a football star at Long Beach Poly with a full ride to USC and an expected 1st round pick down the road.
Dumb whore ruins it for him because they con-sensually made out and for one reason or another she decided to accuse him of rape. He goes to jail and the school pays out the ass in damages.
Eventually he talks to her on person and gets it recorded on camera her admitting he didn't do it.
Reasonably happy ending, bitch gets sued by school district and wins back 2.6M and Brian did get to play in an NFL pre-season game and now works with the NFL.
Support the California Innocence Project, they're the people who got Banks out of the shithole he was unrightfully forced into.
>>29896752
That's nice to hear, American prisons are fucking awful, no innocent man should had went through that just because a money grubbing whore didn't want to work.
>>29895245
tfw you discover your amazing oneitis is only into girls
>>29896831
Then become a gril. Problem solved
>>29896859
So chris-chan was right?
>>29888821
>6ft
>tall
>>29895274
Always with the mgtow hate. What, exactly is wrong with guys doing their own thing? Yes the worst of us might use the term to try and glorify our wretchedness. But the successful man who has ceased to date despite being desirable?
what is wrong here?
Christ lads, you got some anger in yourselves.Women are not as bad as you portray them, I wish you all met a woman who likes you
>>29896010
fucking roastie, get outta here reeeeeeeee
>>29897103
you too fucking roastie, shoo reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>29897048
Normie life is predicated on maintaining a lack of awareness about one's condition. In this case, the condition is a lack of commensurate reciprocation to the contribution that men make in a given relationship. Anybody mentioning this risks eliciting dissonance in their conversation partner, and that's uncomfortable to them. It's much more comfortable to ridicule.
>>29888797
>woman loses weight
>husband remains fat and lazy
if she can be happier then good for her
her husband was probably an obesophile and preferred her fat anyway
>>29896402
it sounds like you pitied the fuck out of her and saw her as weak and fragile. people don't like to feel that way. she became better than you and you couldn't keep up
>>29888984
Literally asking her to check her privilege.
>>29888711
say no more! And Oh Shit! Im completely unoriginal! Now I dont only hate them, I hate myself too!
>>29890409
she sounds overweight to be quite honest with you anon
>>29897151
>her husband was probably an obesophile and preferred her fat anyway it's always the guys fault for womens behaviour.
God forbid you respect women enough to allow them to own their actions
that she wanted to get in shape and then wanted to get with higher quality guys because she thought she could do better
inb4 whats wrong with that.
I didnt say anything about right or wrong just about something I see from a lot of people who defend women
>>29897434
no, I actually just think she wanted to be happier, the last part was just an example cause I saw a documentary a while back where that happened: guy was a feeder and his wife became so obese she was about to die so she had her fat surgically removed in order to survive, after that the guy was disgusted by her being less obese
I met a girl who was really good at guitar at an open mic night, she wanted to talk to me so I did and decided that I would try to jam with her. She asked if I had a girlfriend so I told her no because I have autism and disliked having sex every I tried and her expression just dropped and she left pretty immediately, it's like I became a half person
and most of the women musicians I met were just in it for attention and trying to get them to sing for me was about catering to their feelings
men are just as bad in their own way though, I don't have women hate so much as people hate
I was humming to myself on the bus once and these two yuppie girls started talking about me and looking at me so I took my harmonica out and sang about them judging me and the whole bus started clapping I won't forget the pissed off look on her face
>>29897534
You're an enormous faggot, kys.
I can't look at females the same way again.
Every time i see an attractive girl on the street, i immediately think - "she has had chads cum on her face and in her mouth"
Thanks a lot r9k
>>29897103
>Christ lads, you got some anger in yourselves.Women are not as bad as you portray them, I wish you all met a woman who likes you
Realised I'm better off alone a little while ago, and that sex was completely overrated
Never got off better than with the Tenga egg
>>29889837
>you don't need to be good at math to code
>posts a pic without math
>>29889014
I'm turning from a 'woman' into a man.
I have very a feminine body, big boobs and small waist. I was by no means ugly or unattractive. And yet I'd rather be a transman than stay as a woman any longer.
Checkmate doofus
>>29896347
The problems aren't that difficult. Sure, when you program for the first time, they could be a bit irritating. I clearly remember being confused by the concept of swapping the values of two variables by using a third variable as intermediate storage, when I was 11 years old. But the only way forward is to think about it until it makes sense, not whining on social media to your 20k followers for sympathy. And clearly, she isn't 11 anymore, so her capabilities for abstract thinking should be a lot more mature by now.
Just look at the first sentence. Comparing if one number is greater than another hardly constitutes as "being good at math". And "Yooo celebrate me learning to code with 10% off my entire print shop. Use the code 'Ada'" is enraging on its own. There is nothing to celebrate about her working through some elementary concepts, and no upstanding man would ever expect any sympathy for that. And then she has to bring Ada Lovelace into this, facilitating the whole "Genius Ada Lovelace wrote the first computer program" myth to feel good about herself. And she is whoring herself out for money again.
Overall, it reveals that her intelligence is average at best and it paints the whole Nintendo incident in a different light. She tried really hard to jump on the feminism bandwagon, labelling herself sex-positive to justify whoring herself out, trying to stand under the umbrella of adacemic feminism. But considering her stupidity, it seems much more plausible that she simply was incapable of seeing anything wrong with being a representative for a company producing games marketed at children and being an overpriced escort at night.
>>29892349
Pic related.
>>29896402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0scvD0oMFI
>>29888711
Fuck. It's happened to me before but not in this scale of lying.
Do women see us as just a chapter in their lives? A stepping stone to something taller, better-looking and richer? That's what it feels like to me, just women trying to climb the social ladder with nothing but their bodies, doing nothing of value along the way and relying on those around you.
>>29889025
>>29889050
Wh-- I... I can't...
>>29892042
>not the closeted slut type though
They all are. If it's in the closet, that means it's unseen to you. You'll find out one day my friend, enjoy it while it lasts.
the thing is i hate about woman the most is that they expect to be treated on a certain standard
we are living in a world of uncertainty so that mindset is actually pretty fucked, can't imagine myself thinking this way.
anything can happen any day, and by being pretty smart or cute does not mean you are safe from anything or guaranteed anything
>tfw you break on through to the other side and no longer care about bitches or relationships
>>29898351
>Every single one of them!
you ruminating cunts live in your heads and it bugs the everyloving shit out of me
>>29898399
check out this roastie getting toastie
Filthy westerners coudn't even beat a women and got femmenist men, that's how degenerate countries you have.
>>29889242
Haha I can't wait for society to unravel
Theme music for the thread
http://youtu.be/qAp9aiDXM5g
>>29898399
itty bitty roastie is getting pretty toasty
>>29889022
What the fuck, people change and move on with their lives.
If she dropped her previous dude after 4 years it's completely acceptable, maybe they were done with each other?
I'm so glad that I'm bi. I don't know what I would do if I was only attracted to women.
>>29895366
This is missing Tame Impala.
>>29896402
>marriage
There is your problem
You don't marry domestic animal
>>29894863
>you're a fucking loser and you don't actually fucking talk to girls.
shy women will eventually get asked out by a man. Shy men are fucked. And yet women will bitch and moan about muh double standards and claim they have it worse
>>29890429
Dude, fucking physically assault her.
That's the only just thing to do.
>>29898595
>>29895325
I'm friends with a quiet shy guy who literally hates going out, interacting with others, meeting or even being in the same room with strangers, and spends nearly every minute of his spare time reading philosophy having spent literally 2 years of his life living in a 1-room basement apartment smaller than your mom's kitchen after he finally had to move out of his grandmother's house. He's in a long term relationship with a girl who just graduated with her masters in law because one night 3 years ago he got sick of jacking it and made a PoF account.
that and he's good looking and didn't go on there with a massive fucking chip on his shoulder
so claiming the average foreveralone male is fit clean groomed healthy intellectual and takes care of himself is a fucking joke.
Well adjusted shy people who take care of themselves aren't foreveralone.
>>29889271
You're fucking so stupid that I hate you.
Because it hurts a person to see someone that you are romantically attracted to especially if you truly care about them living their life right in front of you and never truly being a part of it.
Why the fuck would you want your friend to suffer. You know I've never qctually thought about it until your post but it's really common from what I've seen that women ask this question
Are you guys REALLY this careless with people's feelings?
>>29898642
alright fair enough but girls who are gross shut ins get asked out while their male equivalents are doomed to be forever alone, thanks to things like feminism and general male thirstiness.
>>29890136
I un-memed your image
it seems like you were comparing a normal forever-alone man to a chris-chan-like girl
I just made the comparison more even-handed: between two forever-alones of different genders instead.
I forgot to put "well intentioned" under both of them: I think it's safe to say both mean well, they just both feel disenfranchised.
also I want to apologise to the people whose pictures I used for this, I'm sure they're both actually perfectly well adjusted human beings IRL, I was just looking for faces that were just slightly on the low end of average-looking.
>>29896402
>We never fought, never, argued, nothing.
That's a good sign she doesn't care about what you do, anon.
>>29898137
Well, there are > operators there.
>>29898675
yeah there's no denying that at all
if they're FA then they're fucking up while the ball is in their court somehow.
>>29896402
That's really rough anon but it sounds like on top of being completely emotionally unfair to you she's also left you with a lot of emotional baggage. Don't carry that shit for her.
>>29896402
Why aren't you inflicting something so bad to her that she regressed back into her old self? It's the morally just thing to do in this situation. Ruin that bitches life!
Spiteful little dorks.
You haven't met a nice girl because you've made zero effort to meet a nice girl, you'd rather all just stay inside, online, and congratulate each other on how red-pilled and faultless you are.
It amazes me that you can call womens behavior toxic while carrying on this way.
>>29898818
how come now one ever gets butthurt like you when women talk about how much they hate men?
>>29898818
Go back to lolcow bitch, you're not welcome here.
>>29898832
Have you seen this thread? Do you really lack self-awareness to this extent?
>>29898849
we bitch about it here on this board. If you did it anywhere else you'd get laughed at or called sexist.
Everywhere else in the world, online and offline, women bitch about how terrible men are with no repercussions
>>29898818
I love toasting roasties.
>>29898818
they arent nice unless its beneficial to her
thats why whores hate eachother more than anything else
>women friendship
>>29898865
there are many, many subreddits for this
there are and have been many, many forums for this
what are you talking about "this is the only place this exists"
no
google incel forums just to start
you'll find shitloads of garbage.
none of this persecution complex bs
>>29898905
and they're still dwarfed by the amount of places where women bitch about how horrible men are without getting told to fuck off. I.e. facebook etc.
ITT people angry that women are the natural sexual selectors.
Yes, women are the end-all-be-all deciders of whose genes get passed on. No, you can't do anything about it. It makes perfect and complete biological sense for women to mate with a slightly smaller pool the fittest men. It passes along their genes to the next generation, ensuring the continued function of natural selection. This is how human beings were designed to reproduce. That's why men can so easily father children.
You guys are just mad you got the shit end of the stick and that the entire human race is literally _designed_ to keep you from getting laid.
>>29898936
Then we're just gonna rape them bitches like how we were always meant to
>>29896402
>We were teenage sweethearts
That almost never works out.
No one knows who the fuck they really are till mid 20s or later
Sorry it went so shitty though
>>29898936
>It makes perfect and complete biological sense for women to mate with a slightly smaller pool the fittest men
Except this is not what happens. Women make completely irrational choices. Why did my father get laid all the time, who is a complete loser, with a degree in philosophy and literature, with no job except the on-and-off taxi driving to finance his severe alcohol and nicotin addictions, on top of being a fat, balding manlet? Do you think it makes sense that women consider him fitter than me, just because I am more introverted, while I am taller and in better shape than him, working hard to get a STEM degree and not doing alcohol or any other drugs?
>>29896402
Sounds like you married a codependent nut.
They kinda need to stay codependent for it to last because they are just loving you like a drug more than a person.
>We never fought, never, argued, nothing
That is very codependent behavior for both your parts.
I'm not saying you need to throw the china around and call each other hurtful words but there has to be some conflict at times to assert you are both your own person and one of you isn't just a puppet to the other. Hell I love my wife we hardly have any true or passionate fights but we have had impasses that needed fix because we are people with separate identities and wants and needs. Neither of us exist excursively for the other, we are separate units that make one operation function because we each run out part and neither looks at the other as a fix all.
Really sounds like both of you were feeding on the other for emotional support. You felt important, she felt secure, sounds like however when she was "fix" she likely wanted to be her own person and operate without needing another.
>>29899083
>more introverted
You are mentally weak so it makes sense you don't get laid.
>>29898936
>t. armchair biologist
Thanks for the input Mr. Psuedo-Alpha male.
>>29898818
>(you)and some originality to go with it
>>29888681
What the fuck's wrong with her face? Those eyes look lopsided. Creepy as fuck desu senpai.
>>29895274
The red pill looks a lot like robo gels. Coincidence?
>>29899122
You are full of shit. How does being introverted imply being weaker mentally than someone who is incapable of facing everyday problems without drinking, smoking and the occasional joint and amphetamine when things get too stressful?
>>29899148
I'm a chick, mate.
>>29899148
I don't blame anyone for what they do or how they act. Men also evolved to be entitled, whiny and constantly afraid of being betrayed by women because THAT was most evolutionarily advantageous. That fear and entitlement made them aware of when it was possible their line wouldn't be continued and allowed them to make other arrangements with other women in advance.
Basically, everyone is shit because everyone evolved to be shit. Women, men, everyone. We're all terrible people.
>>29898936
This is a really recent phenomenon though and I'm not convinced it'll last another century
Throughout most of history society was extremely patriarchal and womens' sexual freedom was tightly controlled to prevent exactly what you're describing
>>29899218
On the contrary, introverts actually possess more "strength" if you think about it
Extro's need to be around people to truly thrive.
99% of all women are worthless sluts.
That's it. That's all I have got to say.
>>29899218
It's called priorities. If you are introverted it means you are "incapable of facing everyday problems", as you say. Just because you don't have any crutches like smoking doesn't make your failure any more permissible in society.
>>29899259
This is retarded. Introverts are drained of their energy when around others. How is that strength?
>>29899225
sure you are.
your opinion is garbage either way.
>>29899251
>Throughout most of history society was extremely patriarchal and womens' sexual freedom was tightly controlled to prevent exactly what you're describing
No, throughout most of recorded history this was true, but not before. It's the level of control that's recent, and it's evaporating quickly. Human society is going back to how it always was from a short, maybe 10k or 20k year period of being different and having restrictions on sexuality. Men created these restrictions BECAUSE this is the way nature works and they wanted to prevent nature from taking its course. These were restrictions created, from a male perspective, to even out the unfair reproductive advantage women have over men.
>>29888645
Im sorry to break you out of your mood, but that image is missing context. Its from okcupid blog which says girls rate men low then message them anyways.
>>29899293
Because unprotocolled social interaction isn't that useful for society as a whole. It doesn't generate any value, as opposed to working hard on your own.
>>29899307
I meant the history of civilization obviously, no need to nitpick my friend.
I don't think we have enough information about primitive HG groups to speculate on how humans handled pair bonding pre-agriculture. Several modern bush tribes (like the Masai) have monogamous marriage, for example.
>>29899337
What protocol are you talking about? Society doesn't have protocol. If anything, the only protocol there is is constant human interaction.
>>29899293
Because one does best when it's alone, and the other does best when it has others with it.
Can you... not see the obvious concept being demonstrated here?
>>29899307
>this is how it used to be.
I think the obvious flaw is that people were a lot led complex, and all of everyone's day was devoted to finding food.
Seriously it's fucking retarded to think its going back to the way it was.
Really what it is, is that people are getting more and more allowed to do whatever the fuck they want (esp women but I don't have any source for that) and so they're just doing what feels good.
Doing what feels good will always operarively be things that reward the caveman brain
>>29899373
Yes, and we live on a planet with 7 billion other people. You are talking to some of them right now. So how can you say that introversion is the right choice?
>>29899307
>decide to build city
>in order to build that you need manpower
>decide to give some kind of incentive to the men - give them women i.e. they get to reproduce (all of them) but in order to feed their descendants they have to work to feed them
>build said city because men are willing to do more than minimum
>decide to wage war
>decide to provide recognition and superficial honor etc. for men who decide to fight for you because nobody is going to do it just because
>men are okay with this because they at least get something
>win war
>remove incentives
>try to tell men they're dumb and childish for not working their ass off and dying for nothing
>suddenly society collapses because no man does more than the minimum to survive and women became entirely dependent on system and men to survive
What never ceases to amaze me is that both women and politicians/media/etc. don't see this and are okay with completely fucking this up.
>>29899338
Either way, of course I'm going to argue that because I'm female and I stand to gain a lot from my evolved reproductive superiority being returned to me.
I try not to bullshit. I know that's pretty rare, but I really do. Hear me out here.
You're free to disagree. I know a lot of guys that think evolution fucked up making men and women so unequal and sort of view the domination of women as a sort of proletariat revolution against the female noble class and the instatement of male-centered values as the creation of a more righteous, equal system by compensating for female reproductive superiority with the removal of other rights. This is a valid point of view IMO. Like, I understand why. The logic makes sense to me, but it has some flaws.
Honestly, I think male society and regulation of female sexuality was sort of a settling thing. Ancient men didn't have the technology to even out reproductive rights biologically, so they settled for taking away women's other rights. Now that we're entering a new age of science, I don't think this kind of domination of women is necessary.
Just engineer humanity to give men more reproductive rights and then we don't NEED broken, stopgap quick-fixes like dragging women down and taking away their rights. Why not just bring men up to the reproductive level of women instead? This fixes all the problems properly without creating the new problems and having the negative ethical implications of trying to "compensate" for the disparity by removing women's other rights.
>>29899357
Social interaction in a professional working environment adhers to certain protocols. You approach others to discuss a certain aspect of the overall work, delegating responsibility, asking for help or offering help, exchanging information etc. There is always a certain objective you want to accomplish when initiating an interaction with someone. Most introverts I know do not have a problem with this kind of interaction.
Casual social interaction is completely different. People approach you because they are bored, expecting you to entertain them, judging your worth based on how interesting or funny the stories are that you have tell, and you mostly do not know where the interaction leads to. This kind of interaction is typically described as draining to introverts. It might be great for bonding and not feeling totally lost in this world, but it doesn't create value to society to a greater extend.
>>29899472
But right now women get to have all their reproductive rights without any disadvantages while they get the advantage of inferior male rights, why would women want to give men superior reproductive rights when it clearly damages their interests?
>>29899521
I can't speak for all women, but I'm a sucker for collectivist thought. If you can sell it to women as a good thing for society, they'll back it.
Think of it this way: male violence and entitlement evolved primarily out of fear of having their reproductive rights taken away by women. If we take away that fear: if we make what you're all so afraid of impossible. Forever. Maybe male violence will go away?
It's not a sure thing, but women will buy it. I would.
>>29899472
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I'm arguing for a return to those times. It makes zero difference to someone like me either way, I'm an omega male in our society and I'd be an omega male in ye olde patriarchy too.
I'm not sure that giving men the ability to bear children (if I'm reading you correctly, that seems to be what you're saying) would do much to change our fundamental attitudes towards each other, since those are buried pretty deeply in our brains and wouldn't necessarily change just because our physical circumstances changed.
I agree we need to come up with SOMETHING though, because historically nothing has been worse for a society than having a large population of angry young males with nothing to live for and nothing taming them. Video games and porn aren't going to work forever.
Anyway, cheers for the thoughtful response.
>>29899562
But why would women care about something good for society when they get to live in technological and egalitarian (read pro-woman) heaven WHILE having superior rights. How do you plan on convincing them that this is bad for them? sure maybe 100 years from now, but do you think the average modern consumerist western woman cares about that?
>>29898173
Explain more. Why would you not want to be a woman
>>29899616
>But why would women care about something good for society when they get to live in technological and egalitarian (read pro-woman) heaven WHILE having superior rights.
Because even though that's true, we still live in constant fear of men. All the time. Forever. All the rights and societal backing in the world doesn't change the reality of the threat that male aggression bourne out of reproductive desperation has on women. If doing this has a serious chance of taming that aggression and meaning we no longer have to live in fear all the time, I think women would be willing to part with a few privileges.
>>29899653
I think you overestimate the modern woman and underestimate her selfishness.
It would take actual outbreak/'rebellion' of angry males for them to change their attitudes but then it will be too late because men have already resumed taking advantage of their superior strength and have no reason to compromise anymore.
Mind you I'm talking in general terms, not individuals.
>>29899636
It sucks. You're expected to care about everyone. People think you owe them your time and attention (especially men). And you're expected be grateful for that.
Don't fancy dressing up one day? Everyone thinks they have the right to comment on it. Share a hobby with your partner? Watch as everyone talks to him about it, and assumes you're just there for him.
You are given no respect whatsoever as a woman. You are seen as public property, to be used and discarded as other people want. When I pass as a man, life is so much better. people actually listen to you. They Are interested in you (and not just your body).
When women flirt with men, they are so much *nicer*. Men are rude, entitled, bossy, and don't take no for an answer. They don't like you to joke with them, or answer back, or have an opinion. Women, though, they are friendly, they ask questions, they giggle and tease and are fun to flirt with.
As soon as I get some T in me I'm going to be a guy 100% of the time and I cannot fucking wait.
>>29899704
Maybe so. I don't really hang out with the average "modern woman." Saying this could happen right now may be a little hopeful.
>>29899472
Basically the only problem is men have more testosterone which makes you want to fuck all day . The only real solution would be to chemically castrate men which (((coincidentally))) is already happening.
>>29899723
So you're doing it primarily because of social dysphoria and not so much physical dysphoria?
I'm not one of those people that's gonna judge you for that, there are lots of reasons to transition beyond just the bread and butter physical dysphoria "typical transsexuality"
>>29899727
Unlikely it will happen, but unless the society shifts back to encouraging and enforcing monogamy or keeps encouraging polygamy/hypergamy harder and harder it will eventually happen.
Either that or if it the push slows down then society will slowly collapse.
Unless we actually go in full reverse it will eventually end.
>>29899723
>>people actually listen to you. They Are interested in you
That isn't the experience of a lot of men at all though, a huge number of us feel invisible and disposable (not only talking about shut-in robots here)
You're talking about the experience of a privileged male, which yeah, probably is pretty good. But it's not all men, not even close
>>29899745
Nah, don't get me wrong, my body has always made me uncomfortable. My physical dysphoria is focused on my face and chest (seeing my disgusting nasty chest makes me really angry).
But I think I could cope with that without intervention, if it wasn't for the social aspect too.
>>29899723
soooooo your becoming a man so that you can get more attention
>legit the most woman thing I ever heard
>>29899787
As someone able to pass as both male and female, the experience is actually pretty different. It's weird. When you're female, men plot paths right through you and expect you to get out of the way. When you pass male, they walk around you. They may not acknowledge that you exist, but they still walk around you. Whereas passing as a girl, I've had men walk right into me because I didn't get out of the way.
It's not even a conscious thing. They're walking on autopilot. They're thinking about something else. It's not a conscious decision to fuck someone over or respect someone. It's just that, in male autopilot, men are obstacles and women are not. This is the kind of fundamental difference in societal opinion he's talking about.
>>29899787
I'm a good-looking women, though (well, I was until I decided to try to pass as frequently as I can, so I now have short hair, no make-up, etc etc). I'm white, I 'passed' as female, I'm attracted to men. I was almost as privileged as it is possible for a woman to be - and it was absolute dogshit.
>>29899821
No, almost the exact opposite.
>>29899567
I agree with everything here
>Anyway, cheers for the thoughtful response.
No problem, thanks for actually having a conversation! I don't find people of any gender willing to talk about this stuff often.
>>29899834
If women flirt with you, you are competing against me. Given that you are probably weak physically, I can't even respect you as an enemy. I hope hormone-induced premature osteoporosis causes all the bones in your body to break as punishment making yourself unfuckable voluntarily.
>>29899834
I have no reason to doubt your experience as a woman, but when you talk about your experience as a man you come off like a woman who says "wow, men's lives are so much more powerful and free" because she only looks at male CEOs and politicians and doesn't see male garbage collectors and homeless.
>>29898681
Blatant b8 but
>Being insecure prevents OTHER people from making the first move and initiating contact with you.
There are women stupid enough to believe this.
>>29899933
I'm talking about respect.
I play a card game. I can tell you that if I turned up as a woman, and a man who worked as a garbage collector also showed up, he would be given more respect than me. In fact, I know unemployed welfare kings who play, and they get that respect. The male baseline for respect is just set so much higher, and if you haven't experienced not having that, it is going to be hard for you to understand.
>>29899930
They might flirt, but I don't do anything about it. I'm gay. I also lift, so bad luck with the osteoporosis curse.
>>29899933
I like to think that generally speaking men have wider distribution in everything - i.e. there are extraordinarily rich men but also extraordinarily poor.
Whereas women are in general closer to the average, whether from bottom or top and you often only see the top 20-30% and you think everybody else has life like that.
>>29900057
That's because you are in a male dominated situation.
Same happens to a man who goes into fashion salon etc.
>>29900101
Nope, there's still a higher level of respect given to men, wherever they are.
People view men and women differently, and it sucks.
>>29900057
>>I'm talking about respect.
lol I don't think you're going to get much traction with this argument on r9k, a board full of people whose formative experiences usually included being a bullied social outcast
If you were talking to a bunch of normies it might make sense, but very few of us here have much experience feeling respected by our peers
>>29895274
That "post pill" is literally the definition of MGTOW though. If youre gonna talk shit about MGTOW don't go advocating for it in the same fucking image.
And yes, I know online MGTOW communities tend to whine about women a lot. That doesn't mean that most MGTOW are like that. It's just that female nature and how to deal with it is the only thing you can discuss in depth specifically regarding the MGTOW movement so the red pill rage tends to be the part of it you see online.
>>29900183
Now imagine how it would feel if you were a woman, and you'll understand why I want out of this body ASAP
>>29900153
It might you just you spending a lot of time in male dominated area/hobbies etc.
I don't think men get more respect when they are part of cooking club just because they're men etc.
But of course that might be because women decided to be men in the last 40 years and still have yet to prove that they're better/equal to them outside of few outliers.
>>29900196
No, it wouldn't be any worse
>>29896347
She is printing hello world anon, I only know a little bit of Java by you could learn to do what she is doing in less than ten minutes.
I guess it's the first class and it was mostly introduction and logic but she made something that's taught to 12 year olds
>>29900196
The fuck would you know about being an outcast? You admitted yourself you were a good looking woman, whatever your problems were they wouldn't have included ostracism and ridicule.
>>29900200
They 100% do. Men get more respect wherever they are and whatever they are doing. Unless you have seen both sides, you simply cannot understand.
>>29900232
And that's where you're wrong. Imagine being exactly the same as you are now, but people literally barge into you on the street, demand your attention and walk away as soon as they got what they want from you, expect you to pick up all their slack, have people talk over you in conversation, and you gotta do all that WHILE looking nice.
>>29895274
There's so much irony in this. As you get more redpilled you realise that women are unstable without a strong male guiding them, and yet you people criticise Islam the most despite the fact that it too promotes a patriarchal society that disallows any kind of adultery whatsoever.
>>29900294
Speak to any transman who lived as a woman for a while. You'll see I'm right.
>>29900363
Nice dodge you fucking coward. You don't know shit about being a man.
>>29897678
Is that a bad thing? Imagine if you got a decent stable job and some 10/10 suddenly saw your cool looking car, you would fall for that shit in an instant had you not have been redpilled. It's how beta providers/orbiters are made in the first place.
>>29900380
Well considering I live as one most of the time, pretty sure I've got a good idea of how strangers treat you. And boy, is it nice compared to how strangers treat women.
You don't know you're born.
>>29900057
I hope the next time you lift some weight falls on your toes, bitch. Why do you have to make our life more difficult by removing yourself from the dating pool? I hate you!
>>29889357
>>29889505
Nobody mentioned being in fucking love. As a guy with a girlfriend, I have female friends I find attractive and would love to fuck and that's fine. I'm perfectly happy with being just friends, and I'm perfectly capable of having platonic, non-sexual thoughts and experiences with them.
>>29900398
Not the angry guy you replied to, but what makes you assume the experience of a transman is identical to the experience of a cisman? You most likely have much of your social network from before you transitioned still intact, which is going to affect things hugely.
>>29900343
I don't care about islam, however I will care if they come in here, tell me I should die, rape the woman and tell me to give them welfare/comfy prison jail while media encourages it.
If I did the same thing as they do I would be beheaded in their country.
>>29900327
>pick up all their slack
You're fucking delusional. Men are used and dropped FAR more than women ever could be. It's their very biological purpose. And society makes virtually no demands of women compared to men. You have no concept of how much harder the demands society places on men are.
Roastie leave. You'll get respect when you earn it. Being able to wave your female privilege around doesn't warrant respect.
>>29889817
It's only people on /r9k/ who fall in love with anybody they talk to and find attractive. Go outside some time and visit the real world.
>>29898818
>t. Lolcow
Fuck off.
>>29900400
You wouldn't like me anyway mate. Also don't forget I'm also taking a bloke out of the dating pool (as I'm gay and engaged to a bisexual man), so it evens out.
>>29900440
> much of your social network
Much, but by no means all. You can take a pretty substantial hit when you transition.
And I'm really focusing on how strangers treat you. It's just a whole lot nicer. It can't even be down to confidence, as many trans guys (myself included) get all nervous about whether we're passing well enough a lot.
>>29900398
>is a tranny too
Oh lmao well that explains it.
Protip: in many parts of the world treating you like anything less than a special snowflake carries a prison sentence. People treat you extra kindly and respectfully because they're fucking terrified of being labelled a bigot and ostracized or even jailed for it.
>>29900449
Nah mate. Try living as a woman for 20 years and come back to me.
> society makes virtually no demands of women
lol you don't realise how lucky you are mate
>>29900489
How much of your life is interaction with strangers in the street dude? It's maybe 1% of mine but you talk like it completely dominates your life
>>29900513
Ask any trans guy. Most of them who take T look like (slightly short) cis guys. They blend in with perfectly ordinary men. Nobody is afraid. They are treating them as they treat all other men. See attached - would you guess he was born female?
>>29900520
I live in a city. I interact with strangers often as part of my job. I used to work retail. I have hobbies that makes me meet a lot of new people.
If they think you're a man, it's so much easier and more pleasant.
>>29888967
A woman without the instincts to protect and preserve her offspring is literally broken.
Kill this women, she's useless.
>>29900518
>Try living as a woman for 20 years and come back to me.
>less likely to be the victim of violent crime
>less likely to commit suicide
>quotas or hiring practices in your favour
>family courts in your favour
>not expected to initiate interpersonal relationships
>believed when you are raped
>can drop out of the workforce and be a dependant for much of your life
YES PLEASE
>>29899723
lol, you went from pretty tomboy to beta nu-male
>>29900489
Do you know why men get a lot more 'respect' as you call it?
Because they're competition and you have to acknowledge them. You see a man struggling carrying a couple of heavy bags or something? Nobody thinks "oh, i better go help him". or just look at how guys ignore other guys who are getting bashed on by a woman.
Honestly you complain about strangers when everybody who has at least some basic relationship with you treats you miles better than a man because vagina.
>>29900551
>(slightly short)
Whatever you say manlet
>>29900598
>less likely to be the victim of violent crime
>less likely to commit suicide
legit
>quotas or hiring practices in your favour
hmm why do you think this is needed?
>family courts in your favour
due to patriarchy
>not expected to initiate interpersonal relationships
but expected to be open to men approaching you 24/7 no matter what you are doing or where you are or if you're attracted, basically fuck you and your woman life, A MAN is paying attention to you so DROP EVERYTHING BITCH!
>believed when you are raped
Ha, no
>can drop out of the workforce and be a dependant for much of your life
For a tiny minority of women
>>29900584
This. I've never seen so much projection in my entire life.
>but nah here's some more unfalsifiable anecdotes mate :^))))))
All the sad wahwah crytimes you're going through are really nothing new to most of the guys here in a similar environment (retail, city, etc). If you were talking to a bunch of fucking normalfags (I don't blame you given what this board has become), you'd be getting more sympathy.
>>29900622
Now this is where we need to discuss how the patriarchy harms men... you mentioned some legitimate things, but really, how often do they happen? Compared to how often women are disrespected (ie all the time), it pales in comparison.
>>29900662
How do you feel about the fact that most gay men won't touch you because of your disgusting vagina?
>>29900057
>I'm talking about respect.
I'm not sure you understand what respect is. There's a difference between a man coming into a group of strangers and returning to a group of longtime friends. Respect is something built either through experience or reputation. If males got it for just having a penis no boy would have ever been bullied or made fun of.
Men are just more open around other men than women. Because they're less worried about upsetting/offending them since western culture has been telling men for years to treat women chivalrously.
>>29900489
WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING MY AGGRESSSION? Just proves that you are still a women inside.
>>29900690
Yeah, it's sad. Something I've had to come to terms with. But ultimately worth it.
>>29900699
Nah, you do get it just for having a penis. Everyone treats men and women differently. Men have the better deal.
>>29900702
Sure ok
>>29900634
>>quotas or hiring practices in your favour
>hmm why do you think this is needed?
because women have whinged incessantly and men listened and now when they're hired they complain they don't get respect because fuck meritocracy, maybe you yourself didn't want it buy your gender as a whole pushed for it.
>due to patriarchy
you mean gynocentrism, if patriarchy was still in place there wouldn't be any divorces unless there was an actual reason for it.
>but expected to be open to men approaching you 24/7 no matter what you are doing or where you are or if you're attracted, basically fuck you and your woman life, A MAN is paying attention to you so DROP EVERYTHING BITCH!
Because they approached you and are risking their social status by doing so and are literally at your mercy.
>>believed when you are raped
>Ha, no
innocent until proven guilty you cunt, unfortunately somehow feminists deluded women into thinking that it's the other way around because vagina
>>can drop out of the workforce and be a dependant for much of your life
>For a tiny minority of women
You mean literally any woman who decided so until like 10 years ago, right?
>>29900702
Yeah, I move in circles that include a lot of lgbt people and I've literally never met a transman that didn't still socialize in a very feminine way.
It's always hugely obvious no matter how roided up they are. They're just really bad at performing maleness, either they're too soft or they way overcompensate and act like a caricature of what women think men are like.
>>29900634
>hmm why do you think this is needed?
It is perceived to be needed because of poorly interpreted statistics like the wage gap, as well as the social value placed in being a woman.
>due to patriarchy
Actually it's because women ask for custody more than men and get it because they are better caregivers. Which is true in the early stages of a child's life.
>but expected to be open to men approaching you 24/7 no matter what you are doing or where you are or if you're attracted, basically fuck you and your woman life, A MAN is paying attention to you so DROP EVERYTHING BITCH!
Actually, you can with a single scream bring violence to bear on any man who dares to lay a finger on you.
>Ha, no
Except that young men can be expelled from university on your accusation alone, subverting one of the most important principles in western justice systems.
>For a tiny minority of women
No, for most women (although I accept the less well off can't afford it).
>>29894863
Holy shit my man you are quite triggered
>>29899723
>They Are interested in you
wrong, they are interested in how much you make
> women flirt with men, they are so much *nicer*
because they're flirting with chad besides it's usually just as shallow
>Men are rude, entitled, bossy, and don't take no for an answer.
Women are the same
>You are given no respect whatsoever as a woman
Women have inherent value men do not, men have to work to get to the same status as women.
>>29899984
no anon being insecure (combined with inexperienced) prevents you from being able to recognize or accept someone making a move on you, or prevents you from responding appropriately.
that's something that is true of both men and women forever-alones.
>>29900769
>>29900746
> gynocentrism
Such a shame that if you guys bothered learning anything about feminism, you'd see that you're actually referring to the patriarcy, something feminists fight.
> on your accusation
I got sexually assaulted. I didn't tell anyone, because I had no faith I'd be believed. Most women, and many men, have a story like mine.
> literally any woman who decided so
Erm, no? That's only been the case for a very privileged minority up until the last century, and even then wasn't available to most women.
> poorly interpreted statistics like the wage gap
Do you mean the statistically provable, demonstrable wage gap?
> you can with a single scream bring violence to bear on any man who dares to lay a finger on you
What world do you live in? Clearly not the same one that I've been a woman in.
>>29900754
Don't forget a lot of us are gay, and I'm talking flaming. We aren't trying to be the manliest men ever. I see myself as a pretty feminine man, so being what you describe is basically spot on.
man we have a lot of white knight betas in this thread, reddit really is taking over 4chan.
>>29900846
I think I see what you're saying but I need you to define that inherent value for me
are we talking bout desirability to the other sex?
>>29900722
How do you respond to >>29898595
Please stay away from personal anecdote unless you're willing to give more detail about your specific circumstances - height, race, social class, what country/culture you live in, disposition, etc.
>>29896752
That's nice there was finally a happy ending but he still had to endure 5 fucking years of prison and his prospects for a successful NFL career were irrevocably hampered.
>>29898137
>Logic isn't math
How is highschool treating you?
>>29900846
> they are interested in how much you make
considering they generally meet me as a result of my work, they already have a rough idea (and therefore know it ain't much)
> Women are the same
No, they aren't. As someone who get interest from both, I can assure you of that.
> Women have inherent value men do not, men have to work to get to the same status as women.
Except you don't. Just existing as a man gets you a level of respect not granted to women.
>>29900888
>I got sexually assaulted. I didn't tell anyone, because I had no faith I'd be believed.
LIKE POTTERY
>>29900888
>Do you mean the statistically provable, demonstrable wage gap?
stop working fucking cushy office jobs and start working the oil rigs.
ITT people generalizing, then arguing conflicting generalizations with anecdotal evidence/reiteration of primary generalization, while presupposing the generalizations made by individuals characterized by attributes of oppositional groups.
Lots of you are retarded, basically. No one's going to change anyone's mind through memeing.
>>29900910
He means human value, being considered worthy of sympathy and protection from the harshness of the world, not being seen as disposable. Women just kind of get it from most people for being women, men generally have to earn it. That's not as true as it used to be thanks to modern welfare systems and the elimination of military conscription, but it's still somewhat true in some contexts.
>>29900634
>Why do you think this is needed?
Because you can't explain to a spoiled brat that getting a high paying job comes at the cost of years of study and dedication?
>Patriarchy
See, even when we abuse you its still your fault
>Not believe when raped
Maybe if you could go for two minutes without lying?
>Can't drop from work force
Yeah but you can drop 70% of the work and a man will pick up your slack
Here is the thing, I don't give a shit if you catch a poor moron in your web and eat his insides but stay the fuck away from my workplace and my hard earned money, I'm not fucking you so you don't deserve anything from me
If only I could spend the rest of my life without any contact with a woman. Man's liberation when?
>>29900911
Yeah, it's probably true that a shy woman will get asked out more than a shy man. However, a shy woman will not get her pick of any man she wants - she'll have to sit there and wait until a man picks her. Men get to choose, and HATE being approached by women. So I'd still say women have the raw deal.
>>29900888
>Such a shame that if you guys bothered learning anything about feminism, you'd see that you're actually referring to the patriarcy, something feminists fight.
"Adopt our biased view and you will see things our way", yeah, no shit.
>I got sexually assaulted. I didn't tell anyone, because I had no faith I'd be believed. Most women, and many men, have a story like mine.
There are laws in place to deal with that, you decided not to invoke them. Men have fewer avenues of help for rape (e.g., less hotlines).
>Erm, no? That's only been the case for a very privileged minority up until the last century, and even then wasn't available to most women.
That wasn't my point and I don't entirely agree with it, so I won't defend it. But compare the social reaction to "stay at home mum" with "stay at home dad".
>Do you mean the statistically provable, demonstrable wage gap?
Demonstrating a gap alone doesn't imply discrimination. Are human height differences between the sexes discrimination, just because there is a gap?
>What world do you live in? Clearly not the same one that I've been a woman in.
The world where men who even talk about not putting women ahead of themselves (e.g., women and children first) are viewed as hostile.
>>29900989
>Men get to choose, and HATE being approached by women.
Have you read a single post on this entire board?
>>29900957
Make STEM fields less hostile towards women, and I'm sure they will.
>>29900971
You don't know what is meant by patriarchy. It doesn't mean all men have happy sunshine rainbow lives. It means men, for better and worse, are respected more than women. That also harms us, as we feel less able to ask for help when needed. But it also fucks over women hard.
>>29900960
your right! Upvoted! Man I bet you get so much pussy through defending women on the internet, I bet you like watching your girlfriend fuck other men too.
>>29900876
There's a difference between not picking up on flirting and someone straight up asking you out on a date.
>>29900888
>Do you mean the statistically provable, demonstrable wage gap?
Demonstrate it then
>>29900989
>However, a shy woman will not get her pick of any man she wants - she'll have to sit there and wait until a man picks her. Men get to choose, and HATE being approached by women.
Naturally, the shy man won't get his "pick of any woman" either. And he's not going to be waiting to be chosen, like the woman, chances are he's just gonna be waiting forever. I'm not even gonna bother responding to that last claim.
>>29900910
Multiple Women are required for population, whilst literally only one man is needed.
This means men are expendable and is why men usually do all the dangerous work.
>>29900939
>No, they aren't. As someone who get interest from both, I can assure you of that.
Your anecdote means nothing.
What is your job?
>Except you don't. Just existing as a man gets you a level of respect not granted to women.
Alright give me an example of this
>>29901016
mememememememememememememe
Please reread what I wrote. Take your time. Then quote me where I've supported women over men. I'll wait, then I'll correct you, and it will be a learning experience for both of us <3
>>29900999
> But compare the social reaction to "stay at home mum" with "stay at home dad".
Yeah this is a huge issue that feminists openly discuss as part of patriarchy theory. Maybe talk to some feminists about it?
> Demonstrating a gap alone doesn't imply discrimination.
No, you're right - there are a lot of factors. Talk to some people who understand the pay gap, and they will be able to explain it. It's a big issue made up of many many factors.
> women and children first
That was never an official thing. People who spout that as an example of gynocentisism really haven't done their homework.
> Men have fewer avenues of help for rape
Massive issue. Discussed in patriarchy theory often.
>>29901002
Approach 100 men as a woman, and 99 of them will be disgusted. Wonder why women give this up quick?
>>29901010
>Men are respected more than women
That's your own damn fault and nobody else's, it takes me 3 minutes to find thousands of videos of women throwing temper tantrums like a five year old, college educated women
>Less able to ask for help
All you do is demand things from others, men are the ones ridiculed for asking help, I have been told to man up or commit suicide by my own fsther
>>29900989
>men get to choose
does not mean they get the woman though. I could choose to go for a top model or any whore right now, does not mean I would get anywhere.
of course if you jsut sit around you'll get only a pick of what comes, you don't get to pick from what doesn't come.
And men hate to be approached by ugly/trashy women.
Just like women hate to be approached by ugly men, do you seriously think a guy would turn down a decent looking woman just because she approached him?
You get to pick to be either approached or to approach, meanwhile a man has no chance of being approached by a comparable partner, he has to be extraordinary.
>>29898681
The male one is disturbingly accurate for me.
>>Approach 100 men as a woman, and 99 of them will be disgusted. Wonder why women give this up quick?
You apparently live in a really, really weird city full of strange people. You're going to have a bad time if you keep extrapolating from it to all of humanity.
>>29901052
Therefore men have an incentive to seek whereas women do not. Are you expecting people to go against their nature if they don't have to? Why would you expect that? Are you retarded or something?
oh oh, you're just complaining about biologically-derived female privilege. Because men being naturally stronger and faster without any effort is comparatively super lame and useless.
>>29901058
> What is your job?
photographer
> Alright give me an example of this
Walking in the street. As a woman, men will slam into you without a second thought or apology. They barely even realise it happens. Present as a man, and it almost totally stops.
>>29901040
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmwomeq/584/584.pdf
>>29901074
>That was never an official thing.
Neither are the things you bitch about you retard.
>>29901074
>Yeah this is a huge issue that feminists openly discuss as part of patriarchy theory. Maybe talk to some feminists about it?
>No, you're right - there are a lot of factors. Talk to some people who understand the pay gap, and they will be able to explain it. It's a big issue made up of many many factors.
> Men have fewer avenues of help for rape
Come in to our church and you will be saved.
>That was never an official thing. People who spout that as an example of gynocentisism really haven't done their homework.
It doesn't have to be official, it just needs to be persistent.
>>29901010
See, this is why nobody takes you seriously, you complain and demand everybody else change for you instead of you being the change you want to see, if you stopped whining about STEM fields being hostile to you while you study art/gender studies and instead studied there it would be less hostile because RIGHT NOW there would be at least one more woman studying it unless you were totally shit and just proved that women are incapable of doing STEM
>>29901036
there definitely is, that's what I mean by "accept"
insecurity and defensiveness can fuel rejecting someone. thinking you don't deserve this, or thinking that it must be some cruel elaborate joke, or thinking they're better off without you, or thinking if they get to know you they'll just reject you like everyone else in your life has and it's better not to put yourself through that. It's not a healthy mindset but it exists in forever alones of both sexes
>>29901137
>Walking in the street. As a woman, men will slam into you without a second thought or apology. They barely even realise it happens. Present as a man, and it almost totally stops.
Get out of here with this shit. This is seriously your issue?
Give me an actual example.
I'll give you an example of the reverse.
If I accuse a women of raping me, I will get mocked.
If a women falsely accuses me of rape, I will get years behind bars.
That is real privilege.
>>29901137
Demonstrate definition
Give a prwctical exhibition or explanation
Case and point you cNt demonstrate something you can't understand and you can't understand something that's not real
>>29901124
The issue at hand is who - shy men or shy women - is "more fucked" (less successful) romantically. I'm not sure, but it seems like you have forfeit the point based on how you're attempting to argue here. Fine by me, that's all I wanted.
>>29901185
Stop replying to it. It was obvious that you're talking to a b8ing faggot back when it mentioned 'patriarchy'.
Please, feminist lady, stop making women into victims where they are not victims.
In most of western society, you'd have to pick out women as victims on a case-by-case basis. Shoving massive generalizations about women down misogynist throats isn't helping anyone, and it only demonstrates how little you really think about an entire sex/gender.
So all women get harassed on the street? No. Do all women feel unsafe? No. Do all women want to be in STEM? No. Do all women feel excluded from STEM? No. Is "feeling excluded" a good reason for a logically-minded person to not get into STEM? Not in most cases, but of course it depends on the amount of exclusion a woman faces. There are avenues she can take that would get her in the field in a safe, supportive environment. Is it more difficult for her, in that case? Yeah, but every faces at least one challenge not everyone else does... it's life. You can't demand absolute equality in a model without letting the model play out. While a woman may not start out with equal footing in a "man's job" she can certainly prove her value. Don't act like she can't, jfc.
>>29901137
>Walking in the street. As a woman, men will slam into you without a second thought or apology. They barely even realise it happens. Present as a man, and it almost totally stops.
Sure, if you live in a ghetto where might makes right or are in centre of NY/london where everybody hurries and there's no way to avoid hitting into people so it's considered normal there.. Seriously, your complaint does not apply to any civilized country, even fucking saudi arabia or any other muslim not-war-torn country has common decency and protection of the weaker sex (be it through laws, or culture/religion) from things like this.
>>29901230
Oh, shy men are. Duh.
I'm sorry, I didn't know anyone would argue that.
However, some shy men and shy women are so fucked that their sexes become moot.
>>29901162
... I'm not really a woman, though?
>>29901185
Yeah but the thing is, your example happens so incredibly rarely it is hardly worth thinking about.
>>29901206
I provided you with a link to the UK government's analysis of the pay gap. That is a plenty good explanation right there.
>>29901291
Actually, I live and work in London. The difference in being perceived as male is huge.
>>29901294
Then stop complaining about womens problem if you are not a woman
>>29901314
Why? It sucks. Male voices can help to change things for them.
Leave it to a fucking woman to come in here and make the thread all about her.
>>29887771
le womyn h8 thred xDDD
stale copypasta from two years ago does not a hate thread make. fuck off or post OC.
>>29901374
It's not a woman. Nor is it a tranny. Its a redditeur troll faggot trying toget a rise out of you or turn you into a male feminist simp. Ignore it and get back to the woman hate.
>>29901374
Leave it to a man to act like a thread dedicated to hating you would not spark any interest.
Just kidding, any old asshole or moron would do that.
>>29901312
london is not civilized by any worthwhile standard aside from the fact that you have access to services. Nobody in london has time to be polite.
>>29901312
I actuallygo outside unlike other robots REEEEEand I do a lot of people watching. There's a lot of benches facing a major secondary walkway atmy university. I watch people walk from class to class while pretending to fuck around on Google Docs. I've only EVER seen this behavior happen between males, and even with huge streams of people moving in opposite directions it's still infrequent as fuck.
Sounds like a cultural problem specific to London.
>>29901430
They are sure better at if you are a man, though.
>>29901347
Wow, you're such a misogynist. Are you implying that women need help from men for the situation to improve? Are women that incapable?
>>29887771
>That one beef goblin is even striking with a Rock Band guitar.
Every single time
>>29901435
>Sounds like a cultural problem specific to London.
more like sounds like a faggot problem specific to redditors roleplaying for le epic trole xd
>>29901170
>People show interest in me for a relationship but I'm forever alone
>>29901436
No, that's just your personal experience. There isn't any study proving men will slam women in streets or anything, maybe it's just you giving off massive cunt vibes.
>>29901435
I've experienced it in Paris and Germany too (but only presenting as female in France, both in Germany).
In Asia people just stare at me and stay out of the way (presenting as female), but I assume that is because I'm white/blonde.
So I've seen it wherever I've been. You get treated differently in shops and restaurants too. Any interactions with strangers are tainted by your apparent sex. And being male, it's with a much higher dose of respect.
>>29901443
Lol terrible b8 m8
>>29901474
It's not just that. And I'm not saying they will slam you off your feet or anything. Say, for example, getting off a train. Men will move out of the way for other men. They won't for women - or will do just a tiny bit and make them squeeze past.
>>29901480
>london
>paris
>any part of germany aside from maybe southern bavaria
>civilized
>>29889490
Not at all. Johnny Depp only soured looks-wise in the past 2-3 years of his life.
>>29901294
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/#63be9c464c52
here you go, now i demonstrate why your demonstration is faulty and biased
now we can move on from your ignorance
>>29901480
And I haven't seen it wherever I've beenand none of the women I know have either.
>>29901508
how is it a bait?
French took over their country when they didn't like it.
Women bitch and complain about how they don't like it and how it's terrible.
And if you seriously think men need to change themselves so women get treated decently then you're literally a misogynist because you don't believe women are capable of making a change themselves, this is not bait or fallacy.
Infact, chivalrous behaviour is misogynistic because it assumes women need special treatment because they're weaker sex, like having their doors opened for them because they would struggle with it etc.
>>29901576
A government study compared to a random article? Sorry mate, you disproved nothing.
>>29901600
Have they tried presenting as men and seeing the difference? It's quite startling.
>>29898905
That dudes such a fucking beta, no wonder you're not getting laid if you're intimidated at the idea you'd wake a girl up by adjusting your sleeping position
>>29901470
literally exactly that
forever alone is not a random fate
it's a symptom of emotional/mental issues like depression.
or being unfuckably hideous, realistically we can't ignore that possibility.
>>29901621
the goverment that turned a blind eye to thousans of childrens rapes by immigrants?
the goverment that is trying to vote again on a democratic decittion to leave the eu?
i would take a crazy hobbos word over the uk goberments study
>>29901607
>chivalrous behaviour is misogynistic because it assumes women need special treatment because they're weaker sex, like having their doors opened for them because they would struggle with it etc.
This part of what you said is very true.
> if you seriously think men need to change themselves so women get treated decently then you're literally a misogynist
Hmm, okay, lets look at your French analogy - did the upper classes need to change themselves so the common men got treated better? Yes. Yes they did. It wasn't up to the common men to change - it was up to those stuffed to the brim with privilege. As it will be with men needing to change for women.
>>29901508
Thats just you noticing what you want to see. Just like how i notice the other way around, women being treated like princesses. You say that youve experienced both sides but youre clearly stuck in the brain of a woman forever.
>>29901625
cut him some slack, he's clearly never slept with anyone before making that post. he's not drawing on a very large pool of knowledge here
Whore really needs to get fucked in the ass more.
>>29901657
See, this is what I'm talking about. We have differing opinions, so you shit on mine using the fact I used to be a woman as an insult.
Could you use "brain of a man" as an insult? Nope. Men are respected more, and you just proved my point very nicely.
>>29901621
Yes.I'm relaying this thread to a tomboyish cousin who's done some "experimenting".
>>29901654
Those stuffed to the brim with privilege would be literally beheaded if they didn't change, so your example does not work.
They changed because they had to adapt, meanwhile women bitch moan and whinge and expect change.
The revolution would literally not happen if the peasants only moaned and whinged because eventually the monarch would just send in troops to kick them down. feminists can't even agree with each other but expect the whole society to agree with them.
>>29901621
Have you ever considered that you, specifically, are the problem? Why the generalization?
>>29901691
Do you know why they are respected more?
Because they are seen as the more rational sex.
Facts > feels in rational arguments. This is why many wives get their way in arguments over their husbands because in those arguments fact > feels no longer apply.
>>29901708
Okay, go check out any trans forum. Trans men or trans women. You'll see many agreeing with me. It's a known thing. Maybe your cousin just doesn't pass (sorry).
>>29901709
So, you want feminists to start beheading people? Their fathers, husbands, brothers? This is where your analogy breaks down very hard. Women simply can't start a gender war to get what they want, because they love men and men love them. They have to find non-violent ways to get their point across. Debate and education are their only options, really.
>>29901744
So, you admit men are respected more than women? Phew, finally, thank you.
>>29901733
Many trans people have experienced this.
>>29901691
you have the brain of an overly emotional moron ruled by hormones who can't into logic or spatial reasoning and your linguistic games will never change that
>>29888918
>mfw i saw "u go gurl!!"
>>29901778
>overly emotional moron
>literally in a generalization-based hate thread
whew.
>>29901778
See, you're only saying that because I was upfront about my trans status. If I never said anything, you'd have no idea and would be treating me as male.
How does it feel to know your perceptions of people are so heavily swung by your idea of their gender?
>>29901691
It was not meant as an insult tho, i wouldnt have put it any other way, its kinda hard to show feelings and intentions in text. But i guess it just proves further that you see what youre looking for.
>>29901751
no, I used that as an example, we are no longer in medieval times so of course we will not start beheading people.
But as long as feminists will keep on moaning and whinging while telling men they're rapists and need to check their privileges while only studying gender studies, social studies, polsci or art there won't be any real change in how the female sex is viewed because all the change will be entirely dependent on how men act.
Their 'debate' breaks down to screaming racist and sexist anytime somebody disagrees with them or providing anecdotal evidence. And the gender studies education is literally brainwashing marxist propaganda (I grew up in eastern bloc, I know what I'm talking about), if you actually want to educate people you will have to present both opinions and tell them why your opinion is better.
>>29901815
>generalizations can't be empirical or true
you're being an idiot who can't separate what you want to be true from what is true, again.
and before you make the retarded argument you're thinking of: yes you do want it to be true that women are treated worse. because you want to be able to whine, feel morally superior, and have past failures justified
>>29901770
Yes, men are respected more o primal level than women because men do while women talk/are, this will not change by women talking more. However modern society has this thing called 'civility' which teaches people to treat others relatively nicely unless they prove they don't deserve it
>>29898275
This. All women are sluts, just to different degrees. They all look the same when they suck dick.
>>29901830
Actually, it shows that YOU saw what you were looking for. I've not really been feeling any emotional reaction to this thread - but from knowing I was born female, you read an emotional aspect into my posts that quite simply isn't there.
>>29901845
> if you actually want to educate people you will have to present both opinions and tell them why your opinion is better
Feminists do this all the time. Go read some actual feminist literature, and you'll see. If you just stick to 2nd hand anti-feminist reporting of what feminists said, well, you probably have the experience to see THAT is brainwashing.
>women are sluts they just want to fuck chads reeeee
admit it, if you had a harem of big-boobed airheads that would please you sexually at your beckoned call, you'd take full advantage of it in a heartbeat.
>>29901876
> Yes, men are respected more
This was the only thing I was trying to prove, so thank you.
>>29901870
You're not talking to the same person. I don't want that at all.
I just wish misogynists (and of course other hate groups dedicated not to behaviors, but to physical characteristics) would recognize that blind hatred of an entire group of people-- literally billions, the vast majority of whom he/she has not met nor even heard of-- is not logical. It just isn't. It's purely an emotional, psychological problem. You're not better off for having it.
>>29901923
(beck AND call)
>>29899723
I am literally unable to contain my anger at this post, you further proves the point that trans """"""""people"""""""" are just menally ill faggots
>>29901751
I should automatically assume that pass - that you pass - but not my cousin? The point is flying over your head: you are (clearly) entitled to your anecdotes, but they do not constitute any kind of clear evidence for anything whatsoever other than your own feelings. Don't be surprised if robots are unwilling to privilege your experiences the same way you are without any other grounds to support the claims they're advocating.
>>29901950
Didn't know that, thank you anon you saved me a lot of future embarrassment
>>29901904
>Go read some actual feminist literature, and you'll see.
Feminists are retards who tell a bunch of unfalsifiable self serving stories and dress it up in retarded jargon to hide the fact that there isn't an intellectual bone in the entire discipline from idiots who can't distinguish between big words and evidence.
>>29889837
>Literally the most basic bitch loops in javascript
>So straightforward, I picked it up in no time just by looking it up on the internet.
>She actually has bootcamp instructors
>Still complains
You cunt
I'd kill to get an instructor to teach me how to be a competent programmer
>>29892690
lol no way, looks like a robot
>>29901904
I didnt say anything about your emotions. You took my post as an insult, You took it as womens brains are inferior in some kind of way. Thats what i meant by once again seeing what you want to see
>>29901965
Many many trans people agree with me. It is a known thing. So me, and many many many trans people, are indeed entitled to our experiences. I don't know your cousin and if they pass or not. I do pass. I see a huge difference. Many other trans people who pass see a huge difference. That''s all I can really tell you.
>>29901971
NP mate it's one of those ones you hear but don't see written down much
>>29902009
"stuck in the brain of a woman forever", when you know that I'm transitioning to be male. And you're saying you didn't use that as an insult. Sure, son.
>>29901986
Wow sounds like you're approaching it with a real level, fair head there buddy lol
>>29901822
if you never said anything (and i assumed you were male which i would not have because retarded feminists are disproportionately female) i'd have thought you were a supplicant moron who parrots female arguments you can't see the flaws with. but apparently you're just a female moron who emotionally agrees with them.
>>29902037
>Wow sounds like you're approaching it with a real level, fair head there buddy lol
Yes, I am. People who want to demand others change their behavior should provide actual evidence that their claims are correct. Otherwise they're just morons trying to whine until people get tired of it and try to get them to shut up, like feminists are.
>>29902038
So, you're saying you assumed I was female, and read emotions into my post.
That doesn't disprove what I was saying, then. You read me as female, then injected emotion into the emotionless things I wrote as a result.
>>29901904
Literally open any leftist/feminist news site and you can quickly find an article full of misinformation, omission of information and twisting facts, if it gets reported at all (alt-right does this too, and no, just because i don't agree with you does not mean I'm a fascist white supremacist) .
The paygap 'fact' is my favorite example, of course the paygap exists, but its not because SEXISM and woman discrimination, it's because women are dumb and go study art or psychology or any other 'soft' science and then go sit in a chair behind desk while they complain that they earn less than a petroleum engineer.
You know why I am an 'anti-feminist'? Because you're bunch of spineless cowards who let people like anita or laci green or any other whiny bitch on internet be your voice in the media and you don't denounce them. people like Bindel are few and far between in feminist movement and if they have any kind of power they're quickly denounced by the rest of the loud feminists and then you tell me those loud ones who have all the power and representation aren't real feminists.
>>29902063
>People who want to demand others change their behavior should provide actual evidence that their claims are correct.
You mean... like feminists do? Okay
>>29901944
it's perfectly logical. the world has asymmetries and with enough evidence it's not only reasonable but actually necessary for any rational person to believe they exist. you were brought up being taught everyone is equal and treat it like some kind of axiom when it isn't. which is how you come to your stupid beliefs
>>29888888
checked these sweet numbers familia
>>29902078
A paper proving the pay gap is real http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmwomeq/584/584.pdf
There is very little twisting of facts. Anything a feminist writes is instantly picked over with a fine-toothed comb my people desperate to prove them wrong. Take a look earlier in the thread, where someone responded to this paper with an article from a paper. It would be funny if it wasn't actually harming women.
> anita
What has she actually done that is so terrible? She criticized some games in a fairly basic way, not really covering any new ground that others hadn't tread before. She just did it in an easy-to-understand, accessible way.
>>29902010
>It is a known thing.
But that's simply untrue.
>see a huge difference
Is the (dubious) difference in experience SOLELY from being perceived as male by others? What about bias/rationalization from those reporting (wanting "identifying as male" to be tangibly better than "identifying as female")? Factors about their personal circumstances that would make being male "better" than being female (for instance a 6'5 burly woman may have a better time as a male, but that doesn't speak to the overall and general condition of maleness)?
Ultimately, nothing was proven.
>>29902037
Sure its a tiny jab at you since you want to be a man, barely an insult, but you took it as if i see a womans brain to be inferior, you put words in my mouth and assumed the worst
>>29902074
no you moron. i don't have to assume you're anything. i just read your post, realized you're an idiot, and identified stupid, emotional reasoning. i don't have to make assumptions about where it came from like you're apparently compelled to do
>>29902090
no they don't. they butcher statistics refusing to correct for any asymmetries between the behavior or ability of the sexes and spend the rest of their time telling just-so stories based on their biased perspective of personal experiences
>>29902090
You know what's the problem?
They provide facts that there are differences and then misrepresent them that it's because sexism, racism etc.
Of course nobody takes them seriously.
>>29902098
Holy shit, no. I don't believe everyone is the same, I just believe there's tons of overlap because there is. I also believe that it's not that fucking difficult to say, "I hate women who have a lot of sex" or "I hate emotional women" or "I hate retarded women." If your category encompasses people that you don't hate and you don't have even one adjective attributed to the category to make it fit, then that's just intellectual laziness and you should be ashamed. It's not logical.
Tell me why you hate women.
>>29902149
>But that's simply untrue
Did you go look at any place trans people discuss this shit? You are wrong. Plain, flat wrong.
> What about bias/rationalization from those reporting
Check out the trans women who are suddenly shocked at how shit everyone treats them. Many of them assume it is because people treat trans people like shit, but then women/transmen point out to them "nope, sorry, this is what being a woman really is like...!"
It's a common subject
>>29902074
>>29902161
there was a typo
>if i assumed you were male
if that's what confused you.
Partner is home. Transman out
Some part of me doesn't want to be this jaded.
Some part of me is saying that I should leave this thread, that looking at nothing but these bad examples gives me an unhealthy view of women, that there are still many nice girls in the world.
But I end up ignoring that part of me, and staying in this thread.
I learn to accept the fact that I'm inherently a worthless loser, no matter how i try to change myself.
I've accepted this as fact. I don't even hate women. I've just come to realize that their view of me is all society cares about, and that what they view me as is a disposable tool to be used.
>>29902189
>Check out the trans women who are suddenly shocked at how shit everyone treats them.
The exact same experience is documented and "known" in FtM perspectives. Null point.
And they say gender dysphoria isn't comorbid with mental illness. What a joke.
>>29902166
By the way, the offhand example categories aren't much better.
There's a fuckton of people and they're all incredibly different and have different background and demonstrate those qualities to different degrees and for different reasons, so an "I hate emotional women who_____, because..."
like holy shit the category of womankind is mind-blowingly large I can't imagine being simple and unempathetic enough to hate that many people.
>>29902133
I have no problem with her doing her videos.
However I do have problem with her getting 160 THOUSAND dollars to make 13 or how many videos. She still hasn't made them, you can literally go look on her kickstarter and then go on her channel and check her videos.
Recently she had ANOTHER kickstarter.for 200k to make even shorter series of videos while she still hasn't fulfilled her original promise. I wonder if she will finish this one.
I have no problem with feminists literally burning money they will never ever see again but I have problem with con artists and criminals who are immune to criticis. (same with double fine, but there was at least a backlash from the community)
Anita is a charlatan of the highest level abusing the popularity of feminism along with the immunity it brings. She just parrots what McIntosh tells her to parrot and gets away with it because you're sexist misogynist if you disagree.
>>29899653
>All the rights and societal backing in the world doesn't change the reality of the threat that male aggression bourne out of reproductive desperation has on women.
Women are more often the instigators of domestic abuse.
Males are almost always more often the victim be it murder, assault or something else.
>>29902166
because they're generally idiots who refuse to think rationally and instead spew emotions that they're apparently incapable of separating from evidence or fact. their lives are incredibly advantaged in objective ways in the modern western world yet they're constantly bitching about how they don't feel good enough about themselves and it's society's fault
i don't care about what you want people to say. people use language to communicate and the women haters here effectively do that. they don't use language to avoid triggering you
there exist smart, self aware women. one of my math professors is female. but on average they're entitled morons
>>29889304
What is this a reference to?
>>29899307
You're a moron if you think that's how it was. Men would literally rape the shit out of a female if no man was around to fight him off
>>29902312
>there exist smart, self aware women. one of my math professors is female. but on average they're entitled morons
Okay, so you don't hate all women.
You hate women who aren't smart and self-aware. Tons of women have both of these qualities. I am one such woman.
Do you equally hate the very real men who perform the qualities you listed about the women you hate? Great! Then you can instead say, rather than you "hate women" (an inaccurate statement) that you hate: " idiots who refuse to think rationally and instead spew emotions that they're apparently incapable of separating from evidence or fact [whose] lives are incredibly advantaged in objective ways in the modern western world yet they're constantly bitching about how they don't feel good enough about themselves and it's society's fault."
Congratulations, now you've found out how to communicate your real thoughts. I can't believe how difficult that was for you. :P I guess some men really are verbally retarded, logically bereft, emotionally-driven, lazy-minded goobers.
>>29902380
>when a roast makes a post
>>29902455
>when a snotcock can't ad hoc
Christ robots have stale memes
>>29887771
MOOOAAARRRRR, bumps to avoid 404
>>29902569
More hypocrisy, go fig
>>29900888
>Do you mean the statistically provable, demonstrable wage gap?
Undeniable truth of this person being a troll.
8/10
Let me just ask one question: Do people in this thread believe in equal opportunity or equal outcome?
If you believe in the former then I have no quarrel with you, because you acknowledge that men and women deserve the same opportunities but that they aren't the same, nor do they have same desires or methods, i.e. if women are inclined to do so they can go work and aren't forced by government/laws to stay home and take care of children.
instead, they will stay home because it makes sense because they can breastfeed and have better connection with said child (generally speaking).
This will continue to happen because guess what: women aren't men. Nor are men women.
Being equal does not mean being same. If you want to get paid the same then drop your kid off into daycare (or don't have a kid, you can't force a man to give a birth to a kid and breastfeed it), or make your husband to stay home (if you have one) and go work 60+ hours a week with no real vacation as a system admin and you'll earn the same money as a man.
However if you believe in equality of outcome you can go fuck yourself and your socialist/communist buddies.
>>29902560
toasty roastie, burning bright,
in the forums of the night;
what immortal hand or eye,
could frame thy fearful faggotry?
>>29902560
Not trying to be rude or anything, but as a girl, why would you come here?
What do you hope to gain from /r9k/?
>>29902560
I actually unequivocally hate all women though
>>29902585
I'll add quotes from miserable married men as well:
"Modern marriage is nothing but relationship insurance for women. When they get married, they
can have their kids which further keep you in check."
>>29902627
I like to be take my anger out on people sometimes. Also that sweet self-righteousness. It's pretty nice when you spend most of your life too shy to verbally speak to people.
>>29902635
Because of which part of the female anatomy? Have you sought therapy? You really have no reason to hate organs.
>>29902699
Because of the part that makes you a smelly cunt.
>>29902699
I hate women because they're all low test.
>>29901621
The summary of YOUR source said that wage gap is due to women working in less demanding workplaces where the pay is lower.
Work smarter (or in a more dangerous place), get paid more. Doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman.
>>29902699
joke's on you, I get off on this
>>29902727
Good news! You need no longer hate all women! There are high test women (athletes, and maybe even your local acne-ridden women like me) who outrank men in testosterone.
Please remember to say, "I hate low-testosterone" from now on <3
How has this not been posted yet? Stupid whore made 3400$ via crowdfunding so she could attend a conference and talk about diversity in tech and how women are discriminated against. Poor womyn, it is really unfair that your fellow man in tech are so evil that they are literally throwing money at you.
>>29902699
Fair enough
if you had said that you wanted to change /r9k/'s opinions, I was going to ask you to direct your energy somewhere more positive.
>>29902753
Good, me too.
I don't come here to hurt anyone.
>>29902657
No reason to invite all this bullshit into your life. Take control over your hormones.
Roastie can't even stop being toasty when they cut of the roast.
>>29902765
>take steroids
>have higher test than average man
no shit, I on the other hand have to limit my diet to have alright test levels.
I correct my statement: I hate 99.9% of women.
>>29902881
Saying "I hate low test" is faster, buddy. And more than likely covers some of the men you hate (many of whom are here, none of whom are Chad).
That's called "efficiency!"
>>29890830
>women literally cannot stand NOT getting attention
>>29897602
No he is the hero we deserve.>>29897534
Post the story or lyrics you sang.
>>29902343
Anon... I have some news for you son.
>>29902938
But I hate low test women.
I never said anything about hating men with low testosterone. You're shifting the story to fit your narrative.
I just have no respect for low test men.
>>29895671
You're delusional.
>>29896079
So what if it is?
>>29903083
Wait, wait wait. "Low test women" is an entirely different thing than "low test" (in a comparative sense). There are plenty of high test women, ie. women with higher than average testosterone for women.
Anyway, you said you hated women because they were low test, so surely you have to hate any man who scores lower than the roidies... unless you have another reason.
Why do so many of you people have such a tough time getting to the root of your hate, JEEZ, it's like you don't think at all.
>>29902128
Is that an Innsmouthian?
>>29899723
Fucking hate faggots like you.
Way to make my gender look like it's easy to be a man.
Pro tip having a penis makes you male but you need to have a state of mind, balls, skill, will, and heart to be a man.
Experiences also help.
So fuck you faggot.
-t. Mr.t
Last for never give up on finding the perfect waifu, even if she only exists in 2D.
>>29903173
Because I don't care about low test men.
Why would I care about somebody who is clearly inferior?
I hate women, because they're low test while they claim they're same (generally speaking).
However I will concede the point that "low test women" is not the same as "because women are low test", it was my bad and I should have used correct phrasing.
