How many of you robots want to improve yourselves or your situations?
Do you believe it possible for you to improve yourself so much that you ascend to normiehood?
Would your life really be so much better if it was possible and you did it?
If you're working on it, what steps or measures are you taking?
>>29864761
bamperooni bambooni
>>29864761
I have improved myself and I am still improving.
I wen back to school several years ago to get a chemical engineering degree which would give me a career. Now I'm in a pre-phd program and doing undergraduate research which is pretty cool.
My health and fitness is pretty bad right now. I've gained about 15 pounds in the past year due to stress eating junk food, this has also been really expensive. I've cut out take-out but I need to get better at cooking so that I enjoy my meals.
I found a mobility routine on /fit/ that I've been doing daily and I'm shopping for a bike. I want to get into biking and with the bike I can quickly go to the gym or pool. I'd also like to get into climbing and start hiking regularly again.
With social aspects I need work. I meet girls but I feel unattracted to them because I'm older. I'm also unsure if I want to be in a serious relationship or just want to practice with some flings. I have been meeting more people and building friendships.
OP I think it's possible to improve yourself but it can be very slow and difficult.
>>29864761
>Do you believe it possible for you to improve yourself so much that you ascend to normiehood?
I don't think that's possible, since basically my entire life and personality would have to do a 180. as such I don't have much desire to try and improve myself.
>>29866059
Interesting. That degree is going to turn into a lot of money soon, and if you get your fitness together I'd imagine the combination of money and fitness will supply you with the confidence it takes to be successful socially. Sounds like you've got it all figured out.
>>29866120
What about your personality is unchangeable? What qualities do you think are the most negative?
Normie life is empty. I want to live a fulfilled life. Having as gf is only a sidenote to that.
>>29866256
What's fulfilling about your life?
>>29864761
I consider it from time to time, but then I remember I'll still be 5'5 so there isn't any point. I've pretty much lost any desire I've had to be in a relationshit/traditionally lose my virginity, so I don't care about self improvement anymore.
>>29866330
Is the only purpose of self improvement to get laid?
>>29864761
26 and just wasting away. used to be very motivated, i dont feel anything now.
cant get over nihilism, and knowing everything is pointless, so i'll probably live a 'least effort possible' kind of life
>>29866204
>>What about your personality is unchangeable? What qualities do you think are the most negative?
Successful people are hardworking, passionate, energetic, extroverted, and enthusiastic. I'm lazy, apathetic, sluggish, reclusive, and pessimistic. I think another big thing that normies have going for them is that they're novelty-seeking. They get bored easily and will always do something, anything, to avoid doing nothing. I'm pretty bored all the time and prefer doing nothing to doing almost anything.
I've tried to force myself to change that before, most recently during college. I kept it up for... idk, a year and a half or so. I made myself get into a study group, do my assignments as soon as I got them instead of waiting until the night before, started working out. Normies seem to enjoy having things to do, and take pride in accomplishments. I didn't, I hated every minute of it. None of it was engaging or motivating or anything, and once I was out of college I slumped back into neethood pretty quickly.
now obviously women don't have any use for a guy with a personality like that. They want some type-A go-getter with a job and a place of his own who can lead the relationship and pursue her and make the decisions and yadda yadda. They also strongly prefer that to be your genuine personality, not a fake front you're putting up through willpower. And to be honest, I can't really say I blame them for wanting that. But having tried more than once and failed to make myself into something socially acceptable, I'm just never going to be that.
which is I think the source of anger at normies who say to bee yourself. They assume everyone will be energetic and motivated and such if only they get in the habit. I'm not, even if I force myself to do it for a long time.
I figure it can't be helped
>>29866380
To me? Yeah. I'm not gonna get any real respect since I'm still short as fuck, and I stopped caring what other people think of me.
>>29866423
good post anon, this aptly describes me as well. i think our best bet is just to get something that defines us, which isn't the normie lifestyle.. drinking, drugs, comedy, music.. i dunno
I don't think true normiehood is possible for most of us.
The best way for us to gain social leverage is to learn social engineering techniques.
>>29866668
apparently quints aren't possible for most of us either
>>29866666
>>29864761
If she trips it's gonna rip her nipples off
I guess I'm already floating around in the grey area between Normiehood and Chad-dom. However, I don't have any desire to fit into either category - I just want to enjoy my life and do what I can to be fulfilled.
I've slept with a few dozen women, traveled to a few dozen countries, and lived overseas by myself. I'm finishing up university and have a job that pays decent money. Unfortunately, I hate monotony and routine and sometimes struggle to stay interested in the doings of day-to-day life, especially at work. I'm sick of staring at computer screens, talking on the phone, and writing about my life on a meme-posting website.
I'm trying to find meaningful, consuming hobbies besides riding my motorcycle and traveling. I think I'll sign up for some jew-jitsu classes and keep on hitting the gym.
Pic related, view from the apartment I lived in when I was by myself overseas.
>>29866423
You ever see the big lebowski anon?
There's a certain rogueish charm to lazy slacker dudes as long as you never let them see you sweat about it.
>>29866735
She better not fucking trip then.
But really those clamps aren't tight enough to rip anything off. They just provide a pleasant pinching sensation and might tug a little bit if she slows down. Unless they replaced the springs in them with like industrial strength springs or they're hooked into piercings.
>>29866797
I feel you anon, any stories from overseas time?
>>29866836
Are they clamps? I thought they were piercings, I feel a little better now
>>29866911
They're clamps, just like you'd get at any adult store. Yr good anon obviously not as experienced with bondage porn as I am but ok nonetheless.
>>29866869
Plenty. I'm 23 but I started traveling a bit before my 20th birthday and have been to 30 or 40 countries since. Lived in India for a year and a half, which is a big part of the reason I'm graduating late.
Pick a subject and I'll tell a story.
>>29866933
Hmm. Make any friends you think you'll have for your entire life?
I was hoping to make some lifelong friends in college but I didn't connect with anyone beyond the most shallow drinking-buddies type relationships.
It is possible, at least for me.
last year I tried hard to improve myself. grasped normiehood to the point of contacting back my childhood friends and the occasional partying, but nonetheless I was wrongly focused on my goals, thus, this way I returned to robothood.
now I'm yet again figuring myself out right now to not commit the same mistakes of the last attempt and become a normie once for all.
>>29864761
>This will never be me
Ugh why live
>>29867064
all the equipment there comes in at below $100 what's holding you back?
You're probably chubby enough to have pullable tits too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcVg4UCtmvA
>>29867086
I'm not chubby!
But I don't have a treadmill and I'm pretty sure those are fairly expensive. Also, if I do it by myself I'm essentially stuck until someone finds me
>>29867161
Find someone to do it for you on the internet.
Extend the chain so it can clip onto your chiseled nips.
if you're a twink or femmeboy in PDX I'll do it for you anon.
>>29867008
I don't know about for my entire life, but I have made some very good friends overseas. Most of the encounters you have traveling are transient and won't last more than a few days, but you do occasionally meet great people.
This isn't a friendship story, per se, just a nice gesture:
>in Delhi back in January or February
>riding the surprisingly modern Metro back into the city from its satellite city of Ghaziabad
>not having a very good night, had been arguing with my girlfriend who is Indian but grew up and is living in the United States (she was in America when I was in Delhi)
>had been hanging out at the apartment of a couple girls I know
>we were all just chilling out on the roof and then I caught an Uber back to the Vaishali Metr Station
>feeling marginally depressed and am all-around unhappy because of my girlfriend
>must have looked moody because this Punjabi guy starts talking to me
>where are you from, blah blah, typical curious Indian questions
>think he's kind of annoying, he goes on and on about how he'd just been married
>shows me pictures from his wedding and then tells me he landed a management job at a restaurant, had just gotten off his shift and gotten a massive free meal
>asks me if something is wrong, without going into too much detail I give him a brief run-down of my situation, figure I'll never see him again anyway
>he thinks and gets quiet
>we talk a little here and there until the train gets to Rajiv Chowk, which is close to where I have to get off (staying in a budget hotel off the RK Ashram Marg station since I'm leaving in a few days)
>he takes off a necklace he's wearing, cuts off a few pieces
>it's a couple of relics, one of which is the Sikh dagger symbol, a comb, and stuff
>tells me they're from when he was a kid and his mom said they'd give him good luck and happiness
>I obviously refuse but he says that he's gotten enough luck and happiness and gifts from his wedding and wants to lend me some
tfw
>>29864761
>How many of you robots want to improve yourselves or your situations?
Sometimes want to but no idea how. Most of the time I just prefer wallowing.
>Do you believe it possible for you to improve yourself so much that you ascend to normiehood?
Absolutely not, I'm too far behind
>Would your life really be so much better if it was possible and you did it?
idk, I'd still hate myself probably
>>29867192
Wow that's incredible.
I want to meet people like that and see the good in the world, maybe I'll start travelling alone.
Don't really have the option now as I'm in the middle of some crucial times for my career. Thanks for sharing anon. I would've asked about sex shit but lately I've been thinking that real friendship and kindness is more valuable than pussy.
>>29867182
Ah man I'm nowhere near you, although I definitely appreciate the offer, that scenario is super duper hot to me cause I have a huge fetish for heels and bondage
>>29867343
Hope you find someone to help you out anon.
>>29867343
honestly craigslist would be the thing for it.
Ask them to prove they're not a serial killer in the message body and send pics, if you're ok with a man tying you up and domming you. Women- eh a little harder. You'd have to get a gf who's down to indulge your fetishes.
>>29867249
I've found people to be pretty decent wherever I've gone. I always travel by myself, which makes it easier to meet people, and I've met my share of folks ranging the gamut from terribly criminal to genuinely kind.
Pic related is a pocket knife a middle-aged guy in Croatia gave to me (sitting on top of part of my currency collection - I keep cash from everywhere I go, with a few exceptions I forgot to keep). I was hitchhiking from London to Istanbul and stayed with him, his wife, nephew, and mother for a night or two. He wanted me to stay longer but I was committed to crossing the border to Bosnia and making Sarajevo in a day, so he helped me make a sign and drove me across to the Bosnian side of the river.
Also have a few tear-gas stained flags from the 2013 Gezi Park protests, as well as an old shirt of mine that's covered in purple paint from where I got hit with a rubber bullet.
Best souvenirs are the shit you get for free.
>>29867410
Sounds like some awesome experiences, I appreciate you sharing your stories with me.
You oughta label that shit so when your grandkids find it after your death they can realize its emotional significance.
I never stop improving.
Are you the same person you were yesterday?
I doubt it, you lose cells, hairs, read different opinions and shitpost. But the shitposts we have today were not made when you were young. Everyone improves- better yet it's more like we never stop evolving for better or worse. For me, I don't like feeling that I should be lower to people. To bow down to some social hierarchy. I know some of you guys think that as well. I know I matter because even if im a speck of dirt and a piece of shit. I MATTER. And to somebody you matter to them too. When I was younger I was ostracized by some dumb catholic school kids and was suffering from depression to the point I would take meds and think It would never change. The thing that snapped me out was me knowing this is not how people should act to each other, so when I left that place I never wanted anyone to suffer like I had so I made sure to be as bro as fuck to anyone I meet.
I survived high school, currently on my last semester in college and now I already know that I'm going to go for my masters. I'm now working out and getting /fit/ because I want to protect the smiles of my friends with my own. I really do belive in taking charge of your own destiny, it's not supposed to be easy, it will be painful, but through that pain I will grow. And even if I don't know you person who is reading this, you can call me normie or chad or w/e. The first step is the hardest, but the mental pain I suffered was way greater than the physical pain I endure to become my best version of me. I will follow my dreams, I'll carve a path out of my determination to do so.
I don't know how ill keep trucking but i'll put my grasses on and nothing will be wrong.
And I know you can too.
>>29867365
Me too, it's a fantasy I've had for a while
>>29867396
Craigslist terrifies me, I tried using it once but chickened out at the last second. I'm absolutely okay with men though, would prefer it over women honestly
>>29867008
Not the OP, but I can rightfully say that college people aren't interested in forging life long relationships, not further than for possible networking in the future. or at least this is what my experience on college people has to say on this matter.
Normally, you'd expect college people to already have a previous healthy and solid social base to rely on: life childhood friends and family bonds being the most of the cases, and often (if related to early/late childhood) highschool friends.
don't waste your time forcing relationships with strangers, because you can't unilaterally develop a relationship, they grow naturally; relationships are what they already are, and unfortunately there isn't much to do about it.
I'd encourage you to try and recover past relationships with people you've meet in your childhood. it isn't really that hard, you must lead the initiative with commitment and you'll eventually receive a positive feedback.
early childhood firends are always the best quality friends, take my word.
>>29867469
Grindr? /soc/? /lgbt/? Fetlife?
There's so many ways to connect with people who want to pinch your nips and have you walk on a treadmill these days, we're truly in the future.
>>29867490
I'll give it a shot anon, thanks for the advice.
>>29867442
Will do, but not for another forty or fifty years.
I plan to keep traveling, so hopefully there will be a lot more where that all came from. Globalization won't ruin it all, inshallah.
>>29867490
Meh, that's not true for me at all. I had zero friends after transferring school districts post-my-parents'-divorce. I only made and kept one buddy in high school and he recently died from a drug overdose.
I've got a handful of wonderful friends now and I met them all working at McDonald's the summer after finishing high school. Two are off in the Peace Corps, having graduated university with honors, and the other is starting medical school in the South the day after tomorrow.
I met a lot of people, especially in India, who I talk to almost every day and can't wait to see again.
Good friends are hard to come by, especially in college - I'll give you that much. IMO, most people settle with friend groups after a year or two and then aren't open to more.
I am on the way to ascension.
I found a really old book at a used book store; when I say really old, I mean that the book was literally printed in the early 1800s. It's probably about as old as you can get without becoming irrelevant.
This book made me understand why my life is important: because I have the capacity to further humanity in some form, either literally (as in contributing research to science or contributing to my community), or as a catalyst for someone else to further humanity.
I read Benjamin Franklin's autobiography to get an idea on how he was able to accomplish the things that he did, and now I am writing a manifesto of sorts on my life philosophies, the areas of life I want to improve in, and planning detail by detail on how to master those areas. I don't expect the manifesto to ever be completed, but it has been good to organise my thoughts so far.
>>29867597
Care to post some selections from your manifesto?
>>29867521
I really want to, but I can never bring myself to go through with it. As soon as I masturbate I realize how terrible of an idea it is to meet with strangers for a potentially dangerous fetish act
>>29867597
Manifesto is a good idea, just make sure you get it bound and put it into your bed dude.
I would print mine but my head is fucked and I wouldn't want people to find it.
>>29867614
Do you date?
I'm assuming not based on all the anime girls you're posting. Why not date a boy a few times til you trust him and then reveal your fetish? Or even just make a platonic friend with this in mind?
>>29867613
Not verbatim, but I will summarise some core concepts.
First and foremost, the manifesto is centred around virtuousness, and is written in the viewpoint that modern virtue is dead.
Virtuousness is then defined as the never-ending attempt to both achieve perfection, and to help others attempt at achieving perfection.
It then goes in to detail about different areas in life, and how I, personally, can achieve perfection in those areas ("spirituality," "physically," "socially," "politically," just to name a few.)
Each section has some ideas on how to improve those parts of my life, and what perfection would look like in those areas. This is often times challenging to write; for example, I am not a spiritual person by any means, but spirituality still seemed important to becoming 'whole'.
>>29867740
I am just keeping it in a word document, but if I do ever finish it in some capacity, I'll probably try to publish it. It would be gratifying if I could ever reach a status for myself that people would be interested in reading it.
>>29864761
I do and I've started to pick my hair out everyday. I plan on going to Walmart tomorrow and buying oranges to increase my low hemoglobin so I can actually work out.
>>29867888
Because I'm a loser and I don't know how to talk to people
>>29867911
Sounds good dude.
>>29867984
I'm trying to help you look for ways to live your fantasy but you keep on throwing all of these roadblocks up in front of yourself.
>>29864761
>want to improve
yes
>believe it possible?
yes
>Would it be so much better?
No
> are you working on it?
yes, it is better, but it isn't worth it.
>>29867911
sounds great, but perfection is nebulous, and to what end is a benefit to humanity?
Will you make your effect literally? it seems the most useful
>>29868011
I appreciate the encouragement, but I think it's just gonna stay a fantasy. Sorry anon.
>>29864761
This year has been the worst and best of my life arguably. I lost most of my friends and my girlfriend, but I have a pretty decent job at one of the best fine dining restaurants in my city. I quit drinking completely, gave up drugs, am working on moving out in the next month into my own place and going back to college so I can have an established career.
I am improving but also scared because certain realities of life have hit me this year. It is truly obvious to me now, that love is complete bullshit, that true friends are truly hard to come by and that I am getting to my mid twenties soon so I need to hurry the fuck up and get my shit together.
Life is strange and has ended up nothing like I thought it would have been.
>going to outpatient rehab for the decade of alcoholism
>going to a psychiatrist this week
>starting school next month
Last chance, if I have to go back to working in warehouses I'm just going to hang myself
>>29864761
I'm going to therapy Wednesday. Meeting a doc after. Probably going to get some kind of meds then. "Mood stabilizers," whatever the fuck that means. I'm not even gonna bother filling the script if they're SSRIs or that kind of shit. They didn't work the first time and temporarily made my dick not work. And given they said they wanted to take me off the diazepam because "it's addictive," I'm not very optimistic. We'll see, though. Maybe some of their bullshit memes or bullshit medicine will help.
I'm starting to lose weight on my own, though. Started at 220. 210 now. Target of 180. 6'.
It fucking sucks and will take forever and god damnit I want to bulk up rather than fucking walk for ages and eat rabbit food and hate my life. I want to get big, but apparently getting rid of the fat would make me mildly attractive quicker.
I don't know what I'm going to do to meet folks. Meetup.com, I guess. I'd rather not look like ass when I do, though. First impressions are pretty much the only chance you get when you're a 26 year old dude.
I doubt I'll ever be a normie. I just... don't want what most folks do. I want a place out in the mountains with water, electricity, and internet, an online job, a garden, and a girlfriend.
Trying to make peace with the very real possibility that I won't be able to find that last piece of the puzzle. Every single day makes it less likely I'll find a woman worth a shit.
Every. Single. Day.
There's this desperation, where if I try hard enough, sometimes I still feel like I can race the sun. But despite losing weight and walking more and eating healthy and avoiding stupid shit that pisses me off, well...
Every day I lose that race.
>>29868006
>>29868106
Thank you. There is no real 'point' to trying to benefit humanity, but it gives me an excuse to work towards self improvement.
I do truly want to master all areas of life. I feel like a majority of people, even those that are accomplished, really don't live up to their potential.
>>29866059
One of the best stem degrees in my opinion. I read a book called the venusian art which explains how wealth and health go hand in hand to assist your love life. By the sounds of it you really don't have a reason to not be happy.
>>29864761
Yes, you can. I went from a typical robot to a guy who goes to college and lifts. My life is like a big "Do it for her" meme.
Let me just post a little blog here:
5 years ago I met a girl that instantly fell in love with me. Like, she would literally tell me she loved me even tho we were just friends. I fell in love with her too, but we never dated, I kind of friendzoned her. I used to think she was a slut and muh italian family values wouldn't let me date a slut, so I ignored her even tho I was mad in love. Yeah, I was retarded.
Time passed and eventually we just grew apart, and after a while I realized how big of a mistake I had made. Knowing that I probably let my "soulmate" go got to me and I became depressive and started suffering from social anxiety. There were times where I would go months without leaving the house and I only left my room to eat or go to the bathroom. Oh, and I got pretty fat too, I gained like 40kg.
One day I got her phone number from Skype and decided I should call her, but just as I was typing her number on my phone I remembered how fat and pathetic I was. I wasn't the same person. I just couldn't do it.
So, that was what made me wanna change. I couldn't even try to call her while I was in that state, I'd feel humiliated. I decided I should try to start a diet just to test the tides and I was impressed by it. Not about how much weight I lost, but more like 'holy shit i'm actually trying to improve'. After that I got into college again, and two months ago I started lifting.
Currently I'm in the middle of my unJUSTing process, and I couldn't feel better. I'm gonna try to call her soon, but even if that doesn't work or if she's already dating someone, I honestly think that won't change how I feel, I'm just using that as a secondary goal at this point.
I know it sounds cliche but the first step really is the hardest, after that it just gets easier.
>>29868750
thread's pretty much dead but thanks for sharing anon
beware of doing things for other people
