do women really despise virgin men so much, or is it just a meme?
Any answer from an actual femanon is appreciatedalso, pls be my gf
>>29835391
Virgin men are considered to be literal garbage by women, while beta men at least serve them well as cuckbux providers virgins are total waste of oxygen.
>>29835391
>you will never be that celery
>>29835391
I want to be the plants outside
>>29835391
You really have to ask?
>>29835391
A man no other woman wanted is worthless for a woman, they need a "stamp", some kind of seal of approval, that's how hivemind works.
>>29835788
Cis-minded women are literally retarded and you shouldnt listen to them.
>>29835843
brah when i was 20 had a girl 18 at my place when told i was a virgin she just up and went away
still virgin 7 years later
>>29835869
She ran away because you are obviously stupid (elsewhere you wouldn't have told).
Virgin men are highly unattractive to women.
I remember watching a documentary on single, practicing mormons (both women and men) who where trying to find a partner to marry and form a family within their faith, and the women saying that virgin men were a big, big turn off.
>>29835391
they don't despise virgins. they just aren't attracted to them.
do you hate everyone you aren't attracted to like some kind of psychotic weirdo, or do you simply try to avoid them because you find them awkward to deal with?
>>29835595
>>29835738
>>29835759
>>29835788
>>29835811
>>29835843
>>29835869
>>29835938
>>29835995
>>29836040
t. men
I need a female anon to confirm this.
I talked to girls and they didn't hate me for being a virgin. I'm sure they didn't find it and my shyness attractive but they treated me well.
Most of the massive virgin hatred I see comes from the internet, from men.
I'm still a virgin myself and wouldn't mind dating a virgin men as long as he's not a submissive bitch.
Yeah, virginity definitely repulses me, and it's easily detectable through their mannerisms etc. I've noticed among my girl friends only the dominant/bully types of men really get to trick us into going to bed with a virgin.
ive had penetrative sex once so technically im not a virgin. im barely different than regular virgins
but all girls see me as a non-virgin when i tell them
theyre so shallow
>>29835995
did the mormon female said that
>>29836140
I could do all the stuff you like in Chad, like choking, face pissing and just hitting you until you look like you fell down some stairs, to make you learn your place, if you want to become my side bitch :^)
>>29835595
>>29835788
can confirm
i would only date a guy virgin if he was in middle school
and i, too, was in middle school
other than that fuck no.
reason no. 1/1000000000: imagine being with a guy, him making you all hot and lost from all of the touching and making out, and then when the sex happens he cums in 30 seconds and you literally stare at him not knowing what happened because he looks puzzled and embarrassed as fuck and is like 'oops' expression and doesn't know what to do and says sorry?
it's just a really fucking weird and awkward moment and i wouldn't wish it on anyone.
you tell him its ok but its just like what.....???
> stay
> the fuck
> AWAY
beware of virgin men who are good kissers
you think he's going to lead you to heavenly, passionate bliss and no. you are going to fucking want to kill yourself and regret ever giving this little sucker a chance
please, go with a masculine man. please
>>29835391
>Tfw you will never be this alpha
Why.
>>29836262
lmao
a woman that values you more than for sex wouldn't mind too much my man
either bait or superficial hoe
>>29836303
i was in a ltr with this kid
doesn't and didn't stop me from the fact that that cringe-inducing shit happened and will forever scar me for life. i just wish i avoided him from the beginning and at all costs. i don't give a fuck if you love him more than anything, that's not going to stop you from thinking this.
love is truly blind
imagine if you were in a relationship with a girl (who was a virgin) but she took a shit all over your parents' house and wiped it on the walls and faces of your grandchildren. would you be happy?
same shit
i cannot forgive and i cannot forget.
>>29835391
it's a meme. i would only associate with virgin pure boys
>>29836262
>reason no. 1/1000000000: imagine being with a guy, him making you all hot and lost from all of the touching and making out, and then when the sex happens he cums in 30 seconds
After all the exposure to porn, anime and fapping with death grip most virgins wouldn't even get hard after seeing and smelling your foul 3D pit of sorrow and despair. You should worry about You getting them off rather than them ejaculating too early. It's a meme from movies for normalfags.
>>29835391
Its just a meme perped by slutty whore bags
>>29836140
>not wanting to love and care for a cute submissive boy
>>29836085
You need a woman to confirm that we'll never be celery?
I am one myself so if I got a bf he would need to be a virgin. I wouldn't be alone in worrying whether I'm doing things right and it seems like it would feel more meaningful. Other girls I've spoken to have said the same thing unless they're skets.
>>29835391
Women who want casual sex want men who also have casual sex. Big fucking surprise, if that's what you want then get the fuck over it. On the other hand any decent woman who wants an actual relationship won't care much, in fact a good amount prefer it at a younger age.
>26 year old virgin male here
Yes, women do not like virgin men.
Most of them see you as a child and will laugh about it. Apparently the greatest sign of maturity is ramming your penis into a woman for a few minutes.
Others quite literally hate virgins. They will treat you rudely and try to get you fired if they are coworkers.
Either way as soon as a woman knows you are a virgin she will no longer see you as a man, much less as a sexual being. You could be a 6'3" blonde blue eyed guy with a chiseled jaw and BMW but as soon as she finds out you are a virgin you will become a 2/10 in her eyes.
The only loophole around this is claiming to be waiting for religious reasons, it will at least buffer it.
>>29836381
>It's a meme from movies for normalfags.
It's how the normal mind works. They take everything coming out of a TV as pure truth.
>>29836365
but i live in a country where virginity is the norm and i'm into gfd so that's probably why i like it. it might be different in the west
>>29836405
I want the same but meeting these types of women is hard. I might just be that it's a lot easier to judge the characters of someone the same gender as you.
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>>29836356
This is bait.
And smearing shit everywhere isn't comparable to being "bad" at sex, that's just plain retardation. And "premature" ejaculation, as normies call it, was actually a desirable trait for millions of years. People fucked an knew they would get kids and that's the main reason why they did so.
>>29836356
don't really give a shit tbf
i scream that i am a virgin faggot every chance i get
if i never get laid tough luck
who cares
lying to someone isn't cool but i wouldn't say it's the same as making your parents eat literal turds
especially when that lying is motivated by a retarded stygma (that's founded in reality for the most part)
>>29836262
Women can't even handle a little awkwardness from a guy they supposedly like. Women = trash.
Real talk though
Can I have sauce on the girl?
>>29836418
The other loophole is just lying if the question comes up for whatever reason.
>>29836456
Isn't the female orgasm also some kind of anomaly? It serves no purpose from a natural point of view, other than make them want to breed more.
femanon here!
I think someone being a virgin is a stupid reason not to be attracted to them, but it is incredibly offputting when virginity is a big deal for someone and they get a huge complex/insecurity about it and start becoming bitter etc.
>>29836381
Fucking THIS
Normalfag stereotypes of things are retarded. I've been jacking off with a deathgrip 2-4 times a day since I was a teenager to shit so obscure you can't even mention it in public without being arrested.
Do you honestly think your stretched out roasthole is going to be so fucking good we cum in seconds? That stereotype might work better for normalfag 15 year old virgins but not for 20+ year old robots. If anything you'll get bored long before we finally close our eyes and start thinking of hot 2D babes to finish with.
>>29836418
How do all you guys manage to get outed as virgins? You all work jobs with chavs and gutter trash who only talk about fucking?
Only one asshole in my social group has ever alluded to me possibly being a virgin, to make fun of me. Pretty sure others infer it, but we never talk about it. I'm a wizard but I think they assume I've gotten some action at least once.
At my 7 years in the office, it has never ever come up. No one has asked about girlfriends either. And I don't run around announcing my virginity to the world.
So how do you get outed?
>>29836510
Insecurity in general is what women hate in robots. I've told girls that I'm a virgin normally and even got a date with one a few minutes after telling her. R9k just makes up crap to be insecure about.
As a virgin who fucked an experienced woman. Women really suck ass at communicating, they are zero help in that department. The objectification meme about women is true they expect you to figure them out without ever asking for anything while they stew secretly in anger and resentment.
>>29836549
You don't unless you look like you're in constant fear of them bringing up the subject.
>>29836226
Yep. It was a documentary about a place single mormons visit once a year in order to try to get together if they are still single, some kind of beach in the US. I'm sure you'll find it if you google it.
>>29836549
I live in America where normalfaggotry is turned up all the way.
You get asked if you never bring up a gf or sex stories and you don't stand around with the other guys talking about how sexy girls are and how you want to fuck them.
>>29836549
Once when a girl was telling me a story about getting fucked I made a cringe face.
She asked me if I was still V.
Like was said virgin shaming by women is about their insecurities.
>>29836549
>>29836597
Wondering this too. Pretty sure people think I'm gay and are afraid of hr wrath so they don't ever ask.
>>29836489
iirc orgasm is powerful in women so they avoid standing up and losing all that precious baby batter before it reaches the egg
it's supposed to be the biological reason
no idea if it holds nowadays
>>29836453
Misunderstandings do happen so that could be the case. I don't know how to meet that type of guy either
>>29836673
>le biological stuff has to make sense meme
Most times there is just no reason. If it was anything about efficiency we would pollinate stuff. Or not have sex at all.
>>29836648
i make faces at girls who try to tell me stories about them getting fucked, too, but not cringe faces. i flat out tell them i have no interest in stories about girls getting fucked unless I'm involved in them. they totally understand. i've never been asked if I was a virgin because of that, and sometimes it even leads to fucking said girls to make "stories" of our own. but I look like a Chad so whatever.
>>29836786
> but I look like a Chad
Just beeeee yourself then, and off r9k.
>>29836755
See that's the thing, I can pretty easily spot a guy who seems to be innocent and looking for something serious, but it's impossible for me to tell accurately with a girl. I can maybe pick out the blatant sluts but the rest is 50/50.
>>29836781
calm your greentext brah
i just recall reading this somewhere and i expressely said it wasn't fool proof
>>29836673
But a lot of women have only a couple of orgasms in their life, how is that even useful? Look at other mammalians, females usually don't have time to orgasm.
>>29836839
No offense, fellow /robot/.
>>29836356
God damn this is some horrible bait. Learn subtlety nigga shit.
You guys are morons. You can act like you are not a virgin, fucking morons. I swear to God white people are fucking idiots.
>>29836821
you sure dude? girls tell my i look "innocent" all the time because I'm shy and thin, but they're all surprised to know that I'm into kinky shit and have fucked over 20 girls.
>>29836786
I wish I had the power to kill people over the internet
>>29835788
That's why you get them to commit first. Then it becomes too late. They already like you.
Also,
>listening to a Stacy's opinion
>>29836994
But I'm a virgin and have the virgin walk.
>>29836890
ikr and when you see animal fucking you doubt the female has an orgasm anyway
doubt men in the old day cared about their women's sexual pleasure
so yeah it doesn't hold to scrutiny i think
>>29836891
:3
>>29837013
That's exactly my point. It's hard to judge the character of the opposite gender.
imagine
>chef gets you to finally visit his restaurant
>you really like and love the chef, vice versa
>so excited and happy to eat his food
>you've never tried before
>he spends 2 hrs in the kitchen bar preparing and chopping up your food, presenting it nicely, making you drool at the mouth and dying to finally eat it
>the minute it enters your mouth it fucking disappears before you even get to appreciate or even get a sense of what it was about??
'social stigma' and 'little awkwardness' and 'its all gonna be ok' 'deep girls dont care' my ass
esp if he wants you to come to his restaurant all the time and that shit happens more than once
fuck
no
>>29836085
I'm dating a virgin right now. I care for him deeply and love him with all of my heart. I am also a virgin myself, so that probably ties into it
>>29837054
Fake it till you make it for everything in life, you filthy animal.
>>29837143
>having extremely high expectation about a guy you don't know
>comparing him to a very good chef
sounds like you are the problem
if you expect every single man to fuck like a god of course you'll be disappointed
not sure if bait or really dumb
Women are stupid whores
I told ny first that I wasnt a virgin and it worked out
>>29835391
Depends who you ask. Dumb bimbo whores mock virgins. Normal or decent women don't care. if you are above 21 and still a virgin, prepare for damaged goods. Most women/girls have a boyfriend when they're 19 and the good ones get wifed/ stick with their first boyfriend for a long ass time.
So yeah, really depends who you ask. I think virgin women are worse. Like fucking a potato sack.
>>29836890
>a lot of women have only a couple of orgasms in their life
what kind of heresy is this? are you fucking serious? you must be a super sheltered tween who's only gotten pity answers from askjeeves or prob a trap who has geeky lolcow girlfriends who are comforting them with falsehoods
couple times in an hour is more like it.
this is either with a guy with a fucking hot cock who's big, great oral skills (it's even better when he's fingerfucking you and licking your clit at the same time FUCK), or you have a vibrator
vibrator/dildos/gspothybrids will guarantee you an orgasm in seconds. and you don't even have to penetrate for that. girls can have a full body and fucking soul orgasm just from clit stimulation so go read a book or hire a prostitute or some shit and test out
>>29837013
Just don't act like you are the god king of pussy.
>>29835391
Yes. But it's mostly because virgins are usually guys that lack confidence. But you can easily make women think you're not a virgin actually. They're so oblivious that if you actually act correctly they'll think you fuck a lot of them.
>>29835391
Yes they rather want chads STDs.
>>29837223
>Most women/girls have a boyfriend when they're 19 and the good ones get wifed/ stick with their first boyfriend for a long ass time.
This
While I think the 21 limit is a bit to low (24ish would be closer to accurate because girls tend to like to date older men Virgin or no) but when you start looking for girls past that age you are going to notice all the good ones you wanted have been taken. Cause let's face it who is going to toss away a good catch? and that age is about when guys get overcharged in finding and keeping the good ones.
i love virgin males
it's going to be okay
we can be virgins together
virginity doesn't matter!
just be yourself!!!!! x3 RAWR
Dating tips for men:
-don't be honest
-don't open up about your insecurities
-don't open up about your tragic past
-don't open up about your regrets
-don't open up about being sad
-no matter how much a woman tries to ensure you that you can be vulnerable around her, never show your vulnerable side
>>29837013
Similar here. It's kinda funny to observe girls who see me change into a cocky crazy motherfucker when i'm out of work and having a drink, while normally i'm a silent type.Haven't fucked that many girls though. But there are some 10/10s that aren't acting like cunts to me so I'd say that's good.
>>29837288
those are all cross dressers aren't they?
>>29837263
STDs are a meme. We have antibiotics now, and you don't get HIV if you stay away from coalburners or boipucci.
I bet that all "women" who are posting the bait here are actually high-number sluts trying to defend and justify their slutty ways.
Of fucking course that virgin guys don't last on bed but it is just in the first 5 times, MAXIMUM. If you are with someone that after the 5th fuck continues to spill after a minute then there is something wrong with the guy. The thing that ticks me off is someone saying that they hate men who are virgin because they can't last in bed, even if it is the same fucking thing for women which can't do anything because "pure girl".
Normally virgin women just stands there doing nothing and staring at your face but no man complain about it, when a man is a virgin suddenly it's hell on earth. Then you still have to deal with the sluts thinking they have more experience just because they let someone dick them, it's truly the life in easy mode when you use your body to have this "experience" and then shame others who don't have it as easy as you.
Whew women sure are picky these days huh?
>>29837289
it's a balancing act.
You can't be super-man 24/7 or that will be just as off putting as the wet blanket guy(also you will break and then go full wet blanket it seems)
Be honest but with awareness of what that honest will bring
Open up insecurities when the time calls them up not in just random passing
Share your past but try with some pragmatism, don't paint heroes and villains, just share the journey that lead you to them
Share regrets when the regrets are worth sharing not just a constant stream of stupid
Express Sadness and pain but again show it as control sorrow and remorse, not you coming undone
Be vulnerable around her but show her your might when in the face of the world what she needs to see is you trust her, not that you expect her to double as a therapist or mom.
>>29837237
I was talking about normal sexual relations. Some women never even get orgasms.
>>29835391
I fucked 4 virgin girls and is completly shit, opening theyr doors to fuck, no fuck off virgins womans, i guess the same thing aplies at men, in a cruel way
>>29837387
>Whew women sure are picky these days huh?
They always were, anon. Blame some subconcious urge or whatever on it, but women are egotistical and narcicistic on a level only retarded egomanic males can even comprehend.
Of-fucking-course they will choose 'the best suitable' male for them.
>>29837387
>Of fucking course that virgin guys don't last on bed but it is just in the first 5 times, MAXIMUM.
That's not even true. Most virgin guys actually jack off to porn and can last FAR fucking longer in bed than the guys who have sex like once a fucking week. Besides, it doesn't even matter because if you're fucking a girl you'd be a retard to not go for her for the second or even a third time in one session. And even if you came quickly the first time, the second will be longer.
t. guy who was a virgin not so long agoAlso, all that porn experience actually helps in convincing her you fucked a lot of girls before, and you can even make fucking her more exciting. Not even kidding.
>>29837387
>>29837430
Well in fairness most want long term mates and what not and it's a not like they can return you to the store if you are not what they wanted in a man.
I mean hell that's how I was with women when I dated she could "be good enough" but do I really want to settle when I can get something better? Or rather why stick dick in the crazy when I know it will be worse for it later? Sex and company isn't worth finding out she is codependent as fuck and burns my car in fear I will drive off and leave her
I always wager girls fear the same from "those" kinds of guys.
>>29837468
you sound like a virgin roflmao
>>29837497
Well I'm not one desu.
>>29837468
Everyone is different
I got off porn and can last 30+ minutes with a girl doing all kinds of sexual positions. Any time I go back to porn my time gets cut in half and foreplay is dangerous about me climaxing to soon(however my girl gets a good time/laugh out of just fondling my crotch and I blast a load in her face and I can only seem to do that if I weaken myself with porn earlier in the week).
>makes a thread asking femanons about male virginity
>all the replies I get are typical black pilled robots expressing their frustration, and a couple more trying to bait said robots
Well, at least I got a ""discussion"" going, and some (You)s.
>>29837490
You just summed up the crippling problems of people who have been single for too long or have baggage. Fuk i want a gf again, but I am too lazy for that. And fuck okcupid, I don't fucking trust the internet.
>>29837423
This is what women crave, half apes who can't articulate a single thought in writing.
I had a friend deal with this recently. she got turned off by him being a shit kisser before they could even fuck. And she was a virgin also. I don't understand women. They want a good guy but when that good guy isn't experienced they don't want him. They would rather believe that the dude that has fucked every other guy in the town is a good guy when he isn't. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>29837552
I don't know. Watching porn has taught me insane control over my orgasms.
>>29837490
>Sex and company isn't worth finding out she is codependent as fuck and burns my car in fear I will drive off and leave her
Yeah that's why I'm turned off by relationships. My friends are happy sometimes than other times it just looks like hell. I would rather just have a fuck buddy but that never happens. They always become something more.
>>29837563
Honestly I'm one of those people that realized I'll never have a gf or a stable relationship. Not only do girls not want me, but it's also just me not having the fucking time to do it all. My every day consists of waking up, eating breakfast, going to work, spending most of the day there, then going back home tired as fuck, playing vidya, eating, sleeping. I don't even have time or energy to do anything gf-related, even less so if I'd have to be the one to actively engage in entertaining her so that she would be interested in staying with me instead of dumping me for some Chad.
That said, thank fuck for tinder and apps like that. I can get a date without too many issues and spend an evening with a girl, should I want so. And then never talk to her again. It's not that bad desu.
stop deluding yourselves
>>29837509
you sound like one though
>>29837793
>you sound like one though
Wonder what made you think that, anon.
>>29837563
Internet dating's biggest problem is it is letting you shop for your mate
think about it.
how often have you made regretful purchases? How often have choices you made ended badly?
You really want an eDating site which is just ebay buying but with people controlling your love life?
>>29837793
Why do women think sex should be good right away. This is just the most shallow thing. How can women want relationships when they have these expectations.
I have a fetish for virgin boys.
But I can't talk for anyone else.
>>29837900
Women naturally expect everything in a relationship to be handed down to them by a big strong beefy macho man.
They are as competent as a 2 years old
>>29837778
Attractive people have so many advantages why do they like to act like its hard?
girls perspective pt. 2
>>29837900
To be fair she never gives details why it was bad.
He could have been hurting her, some guys just mash in there like it's some wack a mole game not understanding things like lubing her up or arousing her first
He could have been a whiskey dick which is the flip of one where the most you might get out of it is feeling his floppy dick popping out all the time like some sad can snake gag.
I get your retraction is coming from the idea that it's like what we guys suffer which is usually little/no pleasure and quick finish but sex can be more complicated than jam pointy end in hole.
>>29837937
kinda how like "nice guys" expect a girl to be gushing over them because they have basic human decency?
really humans in general are just awful entitled beast that when given first world luxuries just become the biggest babies on earth.
>>29837949
I hope you're not trying to say I'm attractive. I'm not. It's the sole reason why I've NEVER gotten past a single date with a girl.
>>29837990
thing is,
women can never be "bad at sex", it's a standard imposed only on men.
They are lifeless dummies who expect sex to come to them and be done upon them. They won't even lift a finger, or say anything in order to improve the situation, or help out.
girls perspective
(not judging anyone on here, just offering some other outlets from girls talk places) - just because i'm genuinely baffled at some of the things being posted on here?
not to say these girls are correct either but
to each their own
mutemteumteutemte
>>29838031
NICE GUYS IS THE WORST MAYMAY EVER
A NICE GUY IS SIMPLY A SHY FAGGOT WHO CANT ARTICULATE HIS FEELINGS FOR A GIRL
NOT AN ASSHOLE WHO IS USING HER OR SOME SHIT
THEY ARE JUST NOTICE ME SENPAI IN 3D MEN FORM
FUCK
GET WITH THE PROGRAMM YOU RETARDED QUEEFSUCKING FRUITWHORR
>>29838046
If you can even meet someone on Tinder it means you got somewhere, though I haven't read enough to know if you're still a virgin or not.
Every time I see Tinder I just want to find a skinny girl with big tits to fuck. And the sexual frustration has absolutely been getting to me lately. I've done everything from falling in love with a girl online to starting to consider going to strip club just so I can play with a pair of tits and feel them on my skin.
it's hard to bring up sensitive topics
how would you want your girl to tell you?
>>29838031
Nice guy means you just aren't attractive.
A 10/10 chad could "nice guy" to the extreme and the girl would just see it as cute and still fuck
>>29838113
>If you can even meet someone on Tinder it means you got somewhere, though I haven't read enough to know if you're still a virgin or not.
I'm not a virgin. I've been getting tinder dates because I have a single decent pictureliterally just one and I refuse to send more pics of me to those girls, and only bait those who don't require more picsand then I just get them drunk when it's dark. It works.
>Every time I see Tinder I just want to find a skinny girl with big tits to fuck. And the sexual frustration has absolutely been getting to me lately. I've done everything from falling in love with a girl online to starting to consider going to strip club just so I can play with a pair of tits and feel them on my skin.
I totally know this feel anon. It's sometimes hard to focus on work at work for me because I work with some really hot girls. Literally it makes me sometimes stare at their tits and I'm pretty sure they fucking see it.
Are you a virgin, anon?
>>29838078
but bad sex can become good sex after a while
they just have so much choice men-wise that they don't feel like waiting
which is another 'problem' (not for them though)
>>29838031
I just expect her to give some attention to me and not act like shes too good for me.
>>29838182
I'm a virgin. I've never known what it's like to be wanted by a girl and I know I'm unattractive, overweight, and just not going anywhere.
The girl online told me that I was """"cute"""" and would be hot if I lost weight.
I just see girls with some huge titties, and their ass-cheeks hanging out when I'm at the college store to buy some scotch or when I'm just going to and from classes, and it hurts. All I can think of is "I want that, I NEED THAT, but if I even so much as touch it then I go to jail."
>>29838185
Why should they wait? Why should they do anything they don't like? How entitled are you robots?
>>29838071
>women can never be "bad at sex
Oh yes they can. It's just most men don't have the balls to ask for better but it does happen. That and a lot of guys are just so damn thirsty they will take a lifeless dummy
Hell why do you think girls want good sex partners? Because guys will jump through fire rings to get a round two at that pussy.
>>29838078
>bad sex is a deal breaker
See?
It's not looks, not character, not your kindness, not your commitment, not your faithfulness, not your interests and hobbies, not even your resources... just sex.
This woman just admitted her sole purpose and existence is being a fuck doll. But of course depending on circumstances, if you have enough resources or social status you might bribe her.
>>29838108
>>29838181
>>29838226
anon a lot of nice guys eventually go nuts and get angry invested in a girl that never loved them.
Smart people get the message and leave them alone. Nice guys orbit then get really bitter at shit they could have quit fucking years ago.
>>29838108
No. They are entitled autists who want to trade niceness for sex. They don't understand chemistry, sexual attraction, etc. They are lower than cowards. They follow around their crush hoping she gets attracted to them. Such an unpleasant experience. I don't know how women deal with it.
>>29838240
they are just shallow tbf
if you like someone a lot you are willing to help them discover their sexuality
you tried to trigger me but you type like a neckbeard
>>29838240
they're entitled because they don't want to wait. They don't want to build a life with a guy they want it handed to them.
and also because men have to wait.
>>29838237
>I'm a virgin. I've never known what it's like to be wanted by a girl and I know I'm unattractive, overweight, and just not going anywhere.
I haven't really known how it is either, anon. I still don't. I fucked the girl but haven't felt much other than physical pleasure from a girl who could barely fucking see my face thanks to all the alcohol we got into ourselves. You gotta lose that weight though, man. Being overweight won't get you anywhere.
>I just see girls with some huge titties, and their ass-cheeks hanging out when I'm at the college store to buy some scotch or when I'm just going to and from classes, and it hurts. All I can think of is "I want that, I NEED THAT, but if I even so much as touch it then I go to jail."
You'll never get them. Neither will I. If you get the urges, then just jack off. Go for the girls that go for you.
bc i feel bad this thread is kinda sad
have faith everyone
good girls are out there
>>29838296
listen women are assholes who lead men on. I have girl who've rejected me but they insist on trying to keep the attention I used to give them. Maybe women should realize that they aren't entitled to my attention.
>>29838298
well maybe women should grow some balls and tell them it's not gonna happen
instead they don't say shit
get showered in presents and complain to their friends
SO HUUURD
also liking someone, being nice to them and wanting to bone them isn't wanting to "trade" niceness you utter retard
sure there are creepy fuckers
but not every autist is a potential rapist you nonce
>>29838312
But no girls go for me, that's the problem.
>>29835788
>I don't like cling-ons
This bitch is cold.
>>29838257
That is a woman who can't realty to anyone emotionally. She lives in shallow normie world where anything that is a little uncomfortable is to be destroyed.
>>29838362
Lose that fucking weight, get a decent picture (shoop it if you need to) and get a tinder.
I don't get girls going for me IRL either but tinder is a fucking godsend when it comes to this. You get a match, you can talk to a girl without risking anything.Actually it kinda teaches you to talk to girls anyway, to the point where I learned to approach girls IRL. I still get told off by them often but sometimes I can actually make a conversation.
But lose the weight first.
>>29838298
Women hide their attraction, the more they like you the more they try to hide it. Its not possible to tell if a girl likes you or not the only option is asking for something like a date or phone number. Compliance is the only thing that matters.
>>29838299
>>29838305
Anyone would be "shallow" if they could afford to do so. You are asking them to have a few shitty sex with a guy so that magic and rainbows happen at some point? What? You guys are way too entitled and that is why you post here.
>>29838411
I wish this was true but it's not.I really wish it was given there's this one qt at my work who seems mad at me all the time but she really acts so qt and feminine toward me sometimes.
>>29838358
every frog can be a prince. But women don't even take the time to know a guy thats how little they care about us in general. They're so entitled in this game they take everything at face value.
>>29838342
>listen women are assholes who lead men on.
badly and for all humans a basic lesson is this:In terms of finding a mate If you are going to be mad at actions you take, gifts you give, time you lose but nothing came of them then do not act on them, don't even think on it, forfeit the idea and move on because people are not predictable nor is there a set of rules to win a mate.
>I have girl who've rejected me but they insist on trying to keep the attention I used to give them.
no shit. Best cause she really did enjoy your company as a friend worse case she enjoy you as an add on to her life. Regardless her feelings should have no control over your well being. Move on (as Im sure you did)
>Maybe women should realize that they aren't entitled to my attention.
Maybe guys should participate that line of thought as well? Because many people of both genders will take advantage of stupid people
Don't be stupid.
>>29838332
>good girls are out there
Stop this. Stop.
THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING STOP!
Just stop. By telling lies like this you might endanger someone naive enough to believe it, who will actually give a 3DPD a chance... disgusting and shameful.
>>29838411
i'm on your side but they really don't
a girl who likes you keeps looking at you
maybe some are more discrete than others but it's usually pretty easy
>>29838428
don't be stupid
if you are only attracted to a person because you think you can have good sex
it's shallow
you could literally fuck anybody that fucks good
liking someone is about what they are personality wise
it's about truling appreciating what a person is
and you know it
you baiting retard
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>>29838428
Sure they can but it doesn't help them does it when they peel back the layers on chad and are not happy. Women are shallow because they're pampered they don't have to look deeply into anything because its all given to them. Women being shallow hurts women.
>>29838478
They do exist
They are just a small number in the world
and everyone jumps on them when they are notice and they never let go.
>>29838411
This just shows your inexperience because what you just typed is a plain lie. Women don't hide the fact that they find you attractive. I'm sorry you're so ugly.
>>29838332
>>29838522
>good girls are out there
They're not. See the thing with girls is very simple - every single woman will be the nicest cutest thing to you if she sees you as even a remotely potential mate. On the other hand, if she doesn't see you and sees you as ugly or unattractive she'll make your life a fucking nightmare and will be a nazi-tier sadist to you. Every girl.
That said, this is why it seems like all the nice girls are already taken.
this is how virgins talk
this is why women turn into fembots.
this is why women are heartless.
you don't have to be a chad and you don't have to be a fucking brad pitt, but why is it that anytime a girl wants to talk about something other than the basic small talk (what are your future plans how are you) shit, guys have to shut it down by saying LOL WHO CARES?
pic-related and example of how it goes irl / why i nevver talk to boys anymore:
>girl: do you play WoW?
>boy: whats that
or
>girl: i love WoW / mmorpgs!!! pvping and fps are so fun!! what do you think about ___?
>boys: i don't play games.......
>girl: *silence* (or nervous haha^^;; aww icic!)
>boy: so u like games?
..... .. . .
. . .
.. . ..
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>>29836303
>>29836381
>>29836473
>ask for reason why virgins suck
>get mad
Never change r9k
>>29838358
Do you know how hard it is to not come across as rude when you are rejecting an unattarctive, clingy, autistic social reject? Will he stalk me? Can he take a hint? Will he attact me?
Nice guys are cancer.
WHY IS THERE STILL NO SAUCE?!
>>29838472
Listen women need to change and so do men. The vast problems in todays society are caused by the destruction of our gender roles, which are there to provide value to the other gender, and to create stability in the family unit. Women cannot expect to act like they are and have a stable family.
>>29836549
most of the time women can just guess with me. I'd barely been in college for two weeks or so when one of the girls there started making fun of me for being a virgin and never having a girlfriend. I hadn't told her she just guessed.
It's not that I'm bad looking, I'm just really antisocial.
>>29838536
>sees you as ugly or unattractive she'll make your life a fucking nightmare and will be a nazi-tier sadist to you.
That's most humans gener be damned
I know guys at my work that put items on the top shelf to fuck with a 5'1 tall troll of a guy because they get hard laughs hearing him bitch and moan that he can't reach the items he usually buys.
People are just evil to each other to feel better
r9k is part of this cycle as well
>>29838557
most men are dumb
just like most women are dumb
i don't expect most women to be interesting
you shouldn't expect most men to be either
>>29838557
Shut the fuck up roastie. You have no idea what you're talking about
>>29838609
Aren't you like a virgin who really has no idea what he's talking about in terms of sex and relationships?
>>29838629
Nope. I'm just here to tell roasties to shut the fuck up
>>29838581
>a hint
just fucking tell him you retarded weak bitch
how hard is it?
are you so fucking impotent you can tell something to someone outright?
also "stalking" lmao
as if every girl has to deal with a grade A autist-serial killer who will stab you for rejecting him
I live in real life you moron
i've seen countless "nice guys"
they are fucking armless and don't even approach women most of the time
you're making everyone of them to be the devil
2/10
>>29838496
That's for girls who want to be obvious aka mid level sluts.
>>29838601
Maybe but we're talking specifically about girls here. If they like you - they'll be amazing and caring. If they don't - they'll want to make your life a nightmare. And all that can be performed by one same girl.
>>29838496
Really?
>I'm prettier on the inside, please stay with me.
The fact that some men are bad at sex in itself is a turn off. You expect women to subject themselves to sex with men who they aren't really attracted to any more. That is beyond entitled. You bastards are not only retards, but you are arrogant about your retardation.
>>29838584
The vast problems in today's society is we have more creature comforts then people had even 30 years ago.
The destruction of our gender roles is due more to the fact that they are no longer a requirement to survive thanks to modern tech
The vast problems in today's society is we can both waste time on a image board bitching about issues losing day light over such issues and stay in our safe stops in our rooms/houses rather then being out in the world making our life what we want it to be.
The problems are born by the fact we can trap ourselves because it's safe and feels good at times here rather than fight for a better life because risks and dangers await that.
and with that I'm leaving
>>29837899
okay, wow anon. You just opened my eyes. Okcupid and tinder is really like shopping for a mate.
Good god, what has this world come to.
>>29838671
Where are you going? Come back
>>29838648
I don't expect shit. I would disregard a lot of defects if i found someone i really liked, and i'm not some ugly desperate autist either.
So, in turn, i feel ENTITLED (boooh bad word you can't want anything you shitlord) to the same thing
>>29838557
Imagine a guy asking you how many guys you've fucked as an opener. Men don't like to talk about hot button issues like vidya because they feel they are being judged.
>>29838557
I don't understand what else you expect the "boy" to say...
>>29837289
ahahahahahah oh god here on /r9k/ y'all really are messed up huh
>>29838581
fat women are cancer. I have a fatty i've rejected constantly offer my fun times every six months.
>>29836563
Yeah, insecurity is the male's bane with it comes to dating.
Too bad self-confidence is something you gain from failure, so leaving the comfort zone is a huge challenge.
>>29838695
Is it really so bad though? It's either this or nothing for many people. Girls choose their mate anyway, and guys at least get a chance because it gives them a clear green light to go for the girl.
>>29838671
its not just technology its culture that has changed. Just because we have washing machines and condoms doesn't mean we have to fuck a few dozen people before we get married.
>>29838742
>Too bad self-confidence is something you gain from failure, so leaving the comfort zone is a huge challenge.
That depends. It's never about leaving the comfort zone. It's more about changing what is the comfort zone for you. The whole trick is about making approaching girls your comfort zone. That's how Chads do it.
>>29835391
It depends on a case-by-case basis.
>>29838644
Yeah. I will take the word of a violent "nice guy" robot on this issue.
Thanks, but no thanks.
>tfw I'm about to get gf from my workplace and all the girl who treat me kind of badly when I talk to them lose their collective shit and try to get me for themselves and break us up
women = poopoo
>>29838734
Eh, men are pigs and sleep with anything.
>>29838824
neither robot nor nice guy
hope you had your fun
>>29838648
>You expect women to subject themselves to sex with men who they aren't really attracted to any more
women expect men to financially support them when they become unattractive to him.
Yeah I do its called marriage.
>>29838852
fraid not. I'm an Angel of a man.
>>29838852
>sleep with anything.
we take what we can get our hands on
if you're living on a 3rd world country, and you have nothing to eat but roaches and lizards, that's exactly what you will be doing to survive.
>>29838852
We will fuck you regrettably and then judge you for it.
men > women
>>29838860
Haha! Moron. Good luck.
>>29838703
Then find a masochist. Most people don't like to fuck people they aren't attract to.
>>29838935
>Most people don't like to fuck people they aren't attract to.
But my man! If the person i find is like myself, they will like me for who i am inside, not for how badly i fuck the first four months.
they'll be attracted to my soul y'seee :^^^)
>>29838710
that comparison doesn't work
sexual history =/= video games fgt
>>29838713
i expect him to be able to fucking carry a conversation or at least be able to teach me / be on a similar level (it's okay if he doesn't know anything, i just want a hyde or a seth cohen in my life) or a batman / superman would be nice too. even a villain.
i don't expect him to say shit but i'm just saying that guys worry about sex all the time but it's not always that people care about. sometimes a girl just wants an intellectual guy she can be with. someone she can talk about anything in the world with. someone who's answers aren't just going to be like "O RLY?" *insert basic unenlightening unwitty banter*
mind sex >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txBoSR_lYZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfPWoKERx8w
>your dick has not passed the inspection of 50 roasties?lmao get away from me creep
>>29838983
it cause the same revulsion in the other gender.
>i expect him to be able to fucking carry a conversation
I've never met a girl who could, they just ask me what I just asked them.
also you sound autismo. You need to build some comfort before you breach those topics. I hat shallow convos to but its required to get people acclimated to you.
>roastie's hair touches your arm
disgusting
If you're just trying to have sex, you should just try to avoid telling women that you're a virgin. I don't condone lying, but you're not obligated to divulge anything.
Personally, though, I'd be looking for a long term relationship, so I'd rather be honest and upfront about my virginity and everything else that's "wrong" with me. I'd rather know right away if a woman is going to have a problem with who I am so I don't waste my time with her. Any woman I could have a long term relationship with would have to actually love who I am, virginity and all other issues included.
>>29839222
I think i'd have trouble admitting i'm not a virgin. They'd fucking know i'm one anyway the moment sex started.
>>29837399
This is a woman. What she means is "in my mind I imagine that this is attractive if Chad does it", but the second he does, she'll lose all attraction to him.
>>29837289 is right on the money.
>>29835788
>be a virgin
>18
>few weeks after my birthday
>girl uses me as a booty call
>invites me to her place
>I ask her for some alcohol
>she gets this white girl candy drink
>we watch a shitty movie
>I take her pants off as we make out
>she pulls me off her and quietly asks
>"are you a virgin?"
>"what, me? nah"
>"oh, who was it with?"
>"just some ex, I'd rather not talk about"
>"fair enough :)"
I fucked her and didn't cum because of death grip. Never called her back.
I lied about not having my virginity to lose my virginity. and ever since then I have believed we are living in the dark ages.
>>29835595
>muh memes are memes by memes, while muh memes on the internets serve as memes
Kill yourself
>>29838157
Frankly that's hilarious. I can't even be mad at her, that shit IS unsafe and who cares if the dude is so insecure that he has to buy condoms the size of bin bags to feel better about himself.
>>29835391
>by religious women
Not at all, it's expected for men to save themselves for marriage as well.
>by normie women
They have nothing but contempt for you. NEVER admit to being a virgin past the age of 18-20.
>>29838742
>Too bad self-confidence is something you gain from failure
that's retarded. self-confidence is something you gain from success
>>29839521
>>memes memes are memes by memes, while memes memes meme serve as memes
>Meme
Hypocrit
>>29837289
thats actually true. Women want to see you as an emotionally stable rock for them to dump all of that stuff on, not the other way around. Being stoic and passive about my feelings seems to have worked literally every time ive done it.
IDK I'm an 18 yr old virgin girl and at this point in my life I would much rather date a virgin boy because I wouldn't want him comparing me to others he's been with.
>>29835391
It show how obsessed with sex women are.
Doesn't matter if they otherwise really like you. If you an "awkward virgin" you're fucked.
>>29837900
Because she's fucked dozens of men, and with some of those men it has been good right away. They were aggressive, strong, dominant lovers. Their dicks were huge AND they knew how to use them. She loved every second of it, and she'll use that rare experience as a new baseline for what she considers good sex.
>>29840720
success comes from experience, which comes from failure.
but yea, some people, like robots, are objectively worse people and fail much more frequently.
>>29836085
>t.
Okay. I keep seeing this. What is that suppose to mean?
>>29836549
The characteristics displayed by a man that prevent him from getting laid are the same characteristics that scream "I'm a virgin"
>>29837277
Why not go for women in the 21-24 age then when you're a guy in upper 20's/early 30's assuming you've gotten your shit together by then and have an above average SMV?
Am not gonna yes femanon
>>29841142
>What is that suppose to mean?
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>>29838983
It doesn't matter. Women do not give a shit about how well you carry a conversation. It's all looks to them.
A Chad can open up with "wanna smash" and the girl will spread her legs.
http://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot
>>29835788
Well that crippled me, thanks a lot fucker
>>29839081
>hate shallow convos to but its required to get people acclimated to you.
-
that's shit. i really hope people don't think like this, but if so, that might explain why i don't get along with humans. why is it that we need to 'ease' into topics such as philosophy, religion, politics, existentialism, mmorpgs, anything + everything under the stars or have a period of acclimation? this isn't anal sex ffs
either way, that mentality might be why girls get 'bored' of guys. this is also why i actively avoid tinder or any dating site. that initial period talking about humdrum shit is so fucking lame
getting to know someone doesn't always have to be A -> B -> C -> E -> F - > G -> J -> K -> L
why can't we just pick and choose from any letter and then fill in the others?
and don't tell me bout some 'W-WELL IF I TALKED ABOUT INCEST AND DRUGS AND WANTING TO FUCK HER BRAINS OUT ON THE 1ST DATE SHE WOULD GHOST ME' bs. you know what i mean
cure to this generation:
- stop overanalyzing
- let go
- be random / free
- stop reading instruction manuals on how to date and what to do first, next, what's taboo, what's too much, what you should do
how the fuck are you going to try to analyze something we can't ever describe in words?
i refuse to believe that human relationships can ever be simplified into any structured template. another reason why r9k makes me sick desu
is it just people with social anxiety that are thinking about what to say next? or just our society in general? i wish we all didn't have to put so much thought into what we say. or at least the people i see in those tinder threads who ask 10000 people "what to say next" to come across X way. nothing is genuine anymore and it sucks
also those guy forums where they basically have copy paste dialogue written out on how to approach girls. have lost all faith lolol
/endnotsoberrant
hermit life <3
>>29835391
its not that women despise virgin men, its the discomfort of the idea that we would be their first time. For a guy, having a virgin girl is a good thing because you get to be first and you like that, but on the other end of the spectrum, I think there is an association that men should be more experienced then women. I dont think its right or fair, but I think thats probably why. At one point, I wouldn't sleep with a guy who was a virgin, but it wasn't because I didn't like him or think he was attractive, it was because I didn't want him to throw away his first time with someone he does cocaine with at 3 AM and doesnt see again until the next drug binge. He later lost his virginity to someone he cared about.
