>tfw modern women are absolutely ruined
>you will never live in the 1910s
>qt pure wife
>taught to view herself as mans helper, submits to you
>looks up to you, loves you, admires you as head of the family, protector and provider
>doesn't care about anything else other than being a good wife and mother
>no voting, no career, no alpha fucks
Literally golden age tee bh
>>29801350
Why not become a mormon?
But yes, shits pretty garbage
>>29801350
MARRY ME ANON, BECOME THE GRILL
Go away Varg
>>29801350
im not white
iorenfoinrsf
>>29801350
>no alpha fucks
Implying you wouldn't get cucked by Jose the vaquero
>>29801548
>implying spics weren't kept in line
>>29801612
>implying they didn't BTFO the Texans
>>29801548
>Implying you wouldn't get cucked by Jose the vaquero
only trash women
>>29801628
>t. mexican intellectual
>>29801628
>Texas was absorbed into the union
>Mexico lost half their land
b-btfo g-guys
>>29801350
Women had it pretty shit then. I dunno about your qt wife shit like, being cucked is something that has existed since the beginning of time. Same thing with alpha dudes.
Another thing is you would be looked up to as head of the family a protector and a provider that means you would actually have to perform all those roles and how many of those amoungst us actually could?
>I won't bother going out and finding a woman who shares my values, therefore, none exist
Finding a woman like that isn't fucking hard.
Just go to a church group and talk to women there. There are plenty of women like that there.
Otherwise, go to places like libraries or bookstores and approach women there. They are more likely to be traditional if they go to those sort of places.
If you aren't willing to do that, then stop bitching.
>>29801728
If someone was thrown into a foreign culture how well would they perform? If they were born, it would be different. I feel op is lamenting he will never be born and live in a world subject to those conditions, so he would also be a part of it and have access to the tools.
>>29801778
Those women still do things like vote and care about their career, something only men should do. Woman is mans helper and her role is domestic life.
>>29801778
Seems you are confusing an act for disposition.
>>29801378
Fuck off we are full.
fullblock
>>29801861
Can't stop me, bud.
You'll be in the workhouse while I demand a qt in my first week.
>>29801885
> workhouse
What are you talking about?
> while I demand a qt in my first week
Not really how it works, but feel free to ask questions.
>>29801796
Oh yeah? Have you talked to all of them?
There are many women who want to be a housewife and life a family life. Why aren't you going out their and meeting them instead of spending all your days sitting in front of a computer bitching about everything?
>>29801931
Oh boy, you don't even know about the workhouses. No wonder you are here.
>>29801932
Because the vast majority are interested in the prospect of an easy life and lack the principles which allow it to function in a relationship.
>>29801974
Oh you mean the summer workhouse? Sorry, I thought we weren't supposed to talk about these outside of Church!?
Fucking autistic piece of shit baka
>>29801350
nah humans have been degenerate since the beginning. just hidden behind closed doors rather than broadcast throughout the world.
>>29802027
Good thing I'm not mormon yet.
>>29802006
That's a lot of good guesswork there.
"Traditional women aren't really traditional because they think like this"
It's fine. Keep wasting your life on videogames and pornography until you turn 40 when you marry a used up stacy out of desperation. All the while thinking "I was just born in the wrong time. That's it. It's not like I'm part of the problem or anything"
It's really what you nu-males deserve. At least I'm putting myself out there.
>>29801350
A tranny would probably go for something like that.
>>29802168
I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just letting you know. Obviously someone could search for someone with those traits and potentially find them, but the odds are extremely bad. So bad, that to me it is not worth it.
Note I'm not attacking anyone who wants to search, I'm explaining why I do not.
>>29802310
I'm just saying, it's easy to find a girl with traditional values if you look. There are millions of christians girls all around. There are millions of rural girls. There are millions of foreign girls. So the odds are not "extremely bad". They are actually pretty damn good. It seems like you don't want to search out of cowardice.
And I'm also not attacking anyone who chooses not to search. I'm actually glad that there are people like you around.
In the future, there are going to be a lot of women who made poor choices early in their life who are going to end up very alone. If they end up marrying the betas who inevitably crumbled under desperation, then at least they can be somewhat happy.
I can reject the partying stacys with no guilt knowing that they will eventually end up with a partner anyway.
The world needs people like you.
>>29802511
>There are millions of christians girls all around.
holier than thou bitches. their supposed purity and humility makes them cunts on wheels. and if they're hot, i PROMISE you they will late-bloom on your ass. they will do at 35-40 what college girls are doing now. you're underestimating how oppressed women were in the past, compared to how free they are now. "you mean if i fuck chad, my cuck husband won't do anything AND other women will applaud me?" and you'll welcome her back with open arms, cuck.
>There are millions of rural girls.
fat or ugly or painfully basic and unintelligent or already have children. almost without exception. i live in TN. i know what you're trying to do. it won't work.
>There are millions of foreign girls.
only decent idea here. but if they marry an american, they have an idea of what america is about. cucking, lying, degeneracy, and selfishness. if you're not alpha in your handling of her (you're not), yellow or brown stacy will be just as bad as white stacy.
>Implying they were all pure and innocent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilly_Devine
>>29801350
>1910s
>Golden Age
Unless you were forced to fight in World War I or killed by the Spanish Flu, then yeah, 1910 was a wonderful time to be a man living in the western world. You fucking idiot.
>>29802511
I don't understand why you repeatedly insist I'm a coward or that I have an interest in old stacies instead of discussing the topic, which I thought was the degree of sincerity and resolve with which women subscribe to traditionalism.
There are Christian, rural, and foreign women, but means limit the scope one can investigate. Next, we know about 70% of the US identifies as Christians and about 20% are of the US are considered rural, but divorce rates are approaching 50%. Divorce laws are also stuck in the past and a large risk for men. About 78% of divorces are initiated by women. Given this, I feel many label themselves as traditional, but take it quite litely as they aren't subject to the sender conditions which made traditionalism advantageous for women.
>you will never live in the 1910s
>qt pure husband
>taught to view himself as woman's helper, submits to her
>looks up to you, loves you, admires you as head of the family, protector and provider
>doesn't care about anything else other than being a good husband and father
>no voting, no career, no alpha fucks
There, fixed it to accurately describe beta cuck robots who act passively and shy around women and then rage about it when girl's don't flirt and hit on them.
Your beta because you are a passive girly boy, and you're mad because you want gender roles reversed.
>>29802884
Here's your government issues (you)
>>29802717
>Yeah, all traditional women are secretly bad and you shouldn't try to go for them. This is based on no studies or observances, just shit I pulled from my ass
I think traditional women are traditional based on occams razor alone. You can jump up and down shouting these bizarre theories, but you will still be wrong.
I can see what you are trying to do. We are in a thread complaining about women today focusing on education and careers and in your post, you post a line about how rural women are dumb and not willing to get educated.
This dissonance gives it away.
You are sad with the fact that you will inevitably end up with a reformed stacy who doesn't respect you, so you are desperately trying to convince yourself that there is no other way to be happy.
Go ahead and get mad at me for going after qt traditional girls. Surely I will end up just as miserable as you, right?
Just accept your lot in life as "the backup".
>>29802717
>pulling all of these excuses out of your ass
You got that boipucci ready for me anon?
>>29802842
I don't think you understand statistics.
You can't just connect up these individual stats willynilly.
The divorce rate is 50%, but that doesn't say anything about the divorce rate among church going christians.
I still think you are just bitter and hate yourself for being a nu-male, so you come up with all these rationalisations even if they are based on nothing or just plain wrong
>>29803067
I'm not attempting to attach them to one another through statistics. I'm saying as a generalisation those aren't good.
Different reports have varying breakdowns. I've read as low as 33% divorce rate for active denominational christians and some percent higher than average for nondenominational. 66% chance of success is still risky to me.
I still don't understand why you continue to call me lables which I'd consider negative. I haven't done that to you.
Why not focus on communicating the variables which lead you to believe it is a favorable pursuit or how you beliebe you can accurately deduce a mate's sincerity and resolve as I don't believe you have addressed that. Or how conditions are very different and allow for a greater variety of advantageous routes besides traditionalism.
>>29802970
>bizarre theories
nigger i have fucked married women. granted, their husbands weren't at work or whatever. they just "weren't around." again, i live in TN. it happens. but how hard do you think it is to take that extra step, and cheat when your husband IS just 30 minutes away? or when he's on a trip?
>traditional women
ok pay attention: "traditional" => "daddy's girl" => "spoiled child" => "spoiled dater"
telling a 2016 bitch to act like Emily Post or Fantine doesn't work any more than telling a neckbeard to be Atticus Finch or John Glenn.
and if you REALLY believe women when they call themselves "traditional." if you actually put stock and belief in the titles women place on THEMSELVES. then you're fucked before you even start. if a woman tells you they're _____ with a straight face, that's the best indicator that they're the complete opposite. "i strive to be honest at all times" means "i've been (usually tacitly) accused of lying before (because i was). and if you don't keep a strong leash on me, i'll lie to you and then somehow spin it to be your fault."
the best women i've met in life were from middle class, liberal homes. maybe lightly religious, but not biblethumpers. supported gender equality, but their daughters dressed "like women." their fathers loved them, but didn't let them get away with everything and bitch and cry.
but those women were always incompatible with me. more driven, more intellectual. just like they're incompatible with you. which is why you're believing (desperately hoping) that Podunk Sally Sue or Qi-Xia Yakuza is going to make you feel like le enlightened king of your castle. but you didn't know: beta-ness is universal. it transcends culture. it transcends age. it transcends knowledge. you reek of insecurity. we all know it. and they will know it too.
but actually you can...
>>29801350
I wish women still tried to look pretty instead of trying to look "sexy".
>>29802819
He's obviously talking about social values, not economics, retard
>>29803434
Not the guy you're responding to, just joined this thread
I literally have aspergers and I'm also a virgin. Is there any hope for me in terms of dating or finding a wife?
>>29803513
It is disappointing that the percentage has gotten so low. I still see some at places like grocery stores, parks, and local political gatherings.
>>29803434
>nigger i have fucked married women.
Oh great. I'm talking to the ultimate authority on morality, then.
Knowing the kind of person you are, it's a given that the women you hang around with are trashy.
I'm not interested about talking about the women in your little bubble, I'm talking about women in the real world away from that lifestyle and culture
>>29803321
There's no chance involved if you are a man. If you date a traditional woman and act like a traditional man, a divorce isn't going to happen.
>Why not focus on communicating the variables which lead you to believe it is a favorable pursuit
it's not self evident? Religious women have always been a better pick for marriage and family.
>how you beliebe you can accurately deduce a mate's sincerity and resolve
Through simple observation? If a woman acts pious and faithful, she is more likely to be a good wife.
This is incredibly simple stuff, and I don't know why you see the need to make things more complicated?
>Or how conditions are very different and allow for a greater variety of advantageous routes besides traditionalism.
Traditionalism is always going to work out better. Women today are just myopic.
And besides, a woman path in life is always going to be influenced by the culture she is in. That's how its always been. In todays secular, competitive culture, a woman is more likely to be a careerwoman. And, as this argument comes full circle and reafirms everything I just said, a religious woman is more likely to be a housewife.
And if you think I'm being negative, I'm not. I'm just telling you how reality is. Reality is harsh.
>>29801350
Only because being a man was much harder at the time. That anger made the men far more dominant.
Women didn't change, they were just properly kept in their place. Cuckoldry existed since the beginning of civilization; Mary needed an excuse so she told her husband God raped her.
>>29804153
You make many positive claims with no evidence aside from stating it is self evident. That is a circular proof, which doesn't get us anywhere. You also directly contradict the divorce odds of denominational christians presented in The Good News About Marriage and argue the no true Scotsman regarding a real 'traditional man' and a real 'traditional woman's.
Some religious are higher and some are lower than average. However, your initial contention was regarding traditionalism which also included rural and foreigners. When mentioned the percentages I acknowledged some religious were lower, but a 66% chance at success is still risky in my eyes. Maybe not yours.
Simple observation will not cut risk enough. We already know people are terrible lie detectors. Is Anyone Really Good at Detecting Lies? consolidates many studies and we are around 50-54% accurate, no better than a coin flip. If someone acts a certain way I would posit all we can assume is they see value in the behaviors, but conviction is something else.
>Traditionalism is always going to work out better
Please provide some evidence.
>if you think I'm being negative, I'm not. I'm just telling you how reality is. Reality is harsh.
Maybe you are not the same person I've been talking to this whole time, but your contention has been the same. I feel you've said the following attacks:
>Keep wasting your life on videogames and pornography until you turn 40 when you marry a used up stacy out of desperation
>It's really what you nu-males deserve.
>the odds are not "extremely bad". They are actually pretty damn good. It seems like you don't want to search out of cowardice.
>>29802511
Said the world needs me for old partying stacies
>I still think you are just bitter and hate yourself for being a nu-male, so you come up with all these rationalisations even if they are based on nothing or just plain wrong
>>29804249
>they were just properly kept in their place
Not only have laws and culture changed, which uses to assist in this, but it seems many men have not inherited or learned the skill. Quite a bad situation to be in.
>>29803584
Not knowing that society is largely determined by economical system.
Compare primitive societies, early civilizations with slavery, feudalism, and the capitalism of industrial revolution. And then compare it to current economical system. In every case the society was built around the economy. Economy is primary, the way things are produced, like food and goods.
Read a fucking book nigga.
>qt boring as fuck personality vacuum wife
Gross. Might as well just fuck a sex doll. Just as bad as a modern cock carousel riding whore.
If you're going to spend your life with someone at least pick someone interesting.
>>29801350
>he can't get his in 2016
it's your problem, you're a beta faggot who keeps daydreaming while never working on himself
get cucked, brah
>>29802220
Hey Chris Chan head on to /lgbt/ you'll fit right in.
>>29806039
Here's that imported German (du)
