String puller , master mind whatever you call it.
How do i become the manipulator of people?
Tips?
I'm an INTP , i got potential
"No you don't"
Said a man with an original comment.
>>29800800
That's not very nice
ORIGINALE
>>29800763
>How do i become the manipulator of people?
What do you want from people? Most important question 2bh.
>>29801046
I enjoy chaos , i would like to create chaos through people
>>29800763
>I'm an INTP, I have potential.
Actually you don't. INTPs have naturally awful abilities to communicate, read and manipulate people. ESTPs and ISTPs are really the only "natural manipulators."
Step 1: Define a goal or desires that you want met
Step 2: Find people that seem like decent candidates to assist you in your goal or desire you want met
Step 3: Continue to be friends with them until they assist you with your goal or desires
Step 4: If people you associate with are not receptive to your goals or desires dump them and try again
Else
>dumb people can be manipulated
Yeah but an army of retards isnt useful; just look at us.
>>29801046
Not op but......
How do you get people to see your view on a subject/matter? And how do you get a group of friends or person to do what you want?
How do you get information out of them?
In all my friend groups there is usually one person who manipulates everyone into doing what he wants. How can I be him
>>29801078
The best way to create chaos is to infiltrate a pre-existing network of people and make each individual in the network believe something about every other individual in the network that isn't true
Most people are either fundamentally insecure or can be made fundamentally insecure by taking away the things that make them feel secure, or by wounding them enough to make them feel insecure. Put someone in a position where they feel insecure and more inclined to trust you than the ever-growing mountain of paranoia you create for them, and you're set.
Not as glamorous as it sounds, though. It's more like telling A that B thinks she's a bitch and then telling B that A think she's a bitch and then watching them fight.
>>29801078
>>29801155
If you're asking how to manipulate then you're not a manipulator, just a underage edgy autistic cunt. Now fuck off.
There aren't many things that you have to just "get" but manipulation is one of them.
Manipulation can be taught to an extent but if you don't naturally understand how to do it already then it's likely you never will.
>>29801085
This
AlsoINTPs are a fairly honest type
Manipulation almost always relies on distortion of the truth
>>29801193
I just said I'm not op. I just asked because thread looked interesting and I wanted to know how to manipulate. I'm definitely not a manipulator but I'd like to be.
>>29801155
Be physically attractive. Thats like 99% of manipulation right there. If someone wants to fuck you they will be more willing to do whatever you want to show that they WANT to spend their time on you.
>>29801078
Edge lord detected
Origami
>>29800800
>800800
Why doesn't this post have a thousand replies?
>>29800763
Generally, it's all about getting people to like you, first. If not like you, then at the very least respect your opinion on the matter. It matters not what you want from there, so long as your word carries weight. How you establish it is up to you, frankly I don't think you have the guts if you need to ask.
Think of it like a secret club. If you're in the know, then you are. If you aren't, you probably won't be. You don't 'Learn' to manipulate people, it's a life-style born of habit started at a young age and cultivated over many tries. That said, the easiest way to manipulate someone is to make them think they're right. People love to be right.
>>29800763
As an INTP I might say that we are by a fucking mile the best social analyzing type.
But damn if we all don't completely always lose it when we actually have to participate. The best I can be at the very least the fucking weirdo comfortable his own skin.
ES-'s are the perfect manipulators.
Bond over a common hatred. Let's say you and I were in sixth grade and got molested by the same teacher. We'd wait a few years or ten and save up money to pay homeless people to buy cars with cash and run him over. That's just one example of pulling the strings.
OP here.
What are some required tools to manipulate people?
I already use some tools to manipulate people.
For example if i want to use someone i usually offer them a piece of gum.
>>29801420
Yeah you have no fucking clue.
You think it's a process, it's an instinct. It's all about flow, timing and how to do it. If you can't naturally roll through a situation and get what you want then you won't succeed. The moment you have to stop and think you lose. It isn't at all about what to do, it's how you do.
Please listen
Do not enter this thread unless you want to develop autism
>>29800763
>>29801078
>>29801420
You do realise you have to be a confident and outgoing person with good appearance and charisma to be manipulative?
If you are all of the above things then get out normie reeeeee
P. S. It's already been said but it's one of those things that can't really be taught
yeah you're not gonna manipulate people with a T type, you'll never truly understand what they're thinking or feeling.
>>29801696
It's the opposite.
F look at things emotionally rather than logically. They're often inable to look past what people are saying or bend their actions due to their emotions.
The issue is actually his IN-- as introverted intuition limits outward expression and control.
A) Set an objective.
B) Design a plan to reach this objective.
C) Break plan into a series of smaller objectives, like a stair case. Each case is a new objective.
D) Do anything you need to accomplish that objective. If you need to obtain some heroin for example, find the nearest druggie and start a friendly conversation about himself. Then, slowly lead into a conversation about where you can get heroin. It all seems genuine, and since he thinks you're his friend, he'll be more likely to help you out. Enter each situation with calculation, and a hidden intent. You must be very good at deceiving people. In order to do that, you must put yourself in the situation as if you were acting.
E) Do this with each step. Sooner or later, your final objective will be much closer than you've ever thought you could have actually reached it.
The problem is, each situation is unique. You need to be very strategic in order to be a master manipulator.
>>29800800
Feeling the gets
Orig
There should be a concerted effort behind every actions you take and every word you say.
You need to be able to hold your words when you have to, and speak when you have to.
Calling it "thinking on your feet" is an understatement.
If you can't do this sort of thing easily without effort then you aren't cut out to 'manipulate' people.
If you can't look at a person and make perceptive correct guesses about then from their body language, language use, and so on then once again you're not gonna be a very successful 'manipulator'
The problem is that most people on this board are the type of people who think they are smart but fail because they are "lazy".
Spoiler alert: You are just a failure who arent as smart as you think you are.
None of you are "puppet masters".
>buys into astrology-tier "personality assessments"
>thinks he has the mental capacity to control anything
you probably struggle with controlling your bladder
>>29801904
A part I left out that I should not have is that no one you meet or interact with or become intimate with should be above deception.
If you aren't committed to the social equation or what have you that you are attempting to perpetuate yourself to be for a person then you'll either slip up or give the person mixed signals.
Most people only want you to be a certain way, and even moreso than them finding out that you aren't what they thought of you, but learning that you're more than what they originally thought can count you out on your manipulation.
A rule I usually follow is you'd rather have the bar set low and be underestimated than the opposite to be true. You don't have to be perfect or some super normie chad to be in control.
>>29801933
The fact that you think personality types are astrology-tier only proves you haven't done your research. Therefore, anything you say is null & void.
>>29801924
Not OP but I actually started coming here in high school to practice arguing against fallacies.
Some of us are capable.
>>29801924
Where's all the hostility coming from? Are you depressed? Hurt inside? Projecting your pain onto others? To call everyone here a failure reveals more about you than anyone here.
I am very far from a failure, I can tell you that much.
>>29802019
is that so
The validity (statistical validity and test validity) of the MBTI as a psychometric instrument has been the subject of much criticism.
It has been estimated that between a third and a half of the published material on the MBTI has been produced for the special conferences of the Center for the Application of Psychological Type (which provide the training in the MBTI, and are funded by sales of the MBTI) or as papers in the Journal of Psychological Type (which is edited and supported by Myers-Briggs advocates and by sales of the indicator). It has been argued that this reflects a lack of critical scrutiny. Many of the studies that endorse MBTI are methodologically weak or unscientific. A 1996 review by Gardner and Martinko concluded: "It is clear that efforts to detect simplistic linkages between type preferences and managerial effectiveness have been disappointing. Indeed, given the mixed quality of research and the inconsistent findings, no definitive conclusion regarding these relationships can be drawn."
Psychometric specialist Robert Hogan wrote that "Most personality psychologists regard the MBTI as little more than an elaborate Chinese fortune cookie..."
>>29802099
Not that guy,
Most people who like to use MBTI just use it for fun. Putting so much effort into campaigning against it really just shows your autism.
fuck off furuta
>>29802128
>I may be a gullible idiot b-b-but you have autism!!!
alright breh
Really you need Ni to be a master manipulator, NJs and SPs specifically.
>>29802099
http://www.aptinternational.org/asse..._1105_apti.pdf
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FB%3AHUMP.0000008846.76263.b9
http://www.neurotransmitter.net/mbti.html
There's a LOT of information to support the MBTI theory and Jung's theory on cognitive functions, which MBTI is built off of.
MBTI and Mood -- Neurotransmitter.net
>>29802152
I never even said I put actual weight into it. My words were that we view it as "fun."
Relax, it's not a big deal. As I said, getting abnormally upset over tedious things is a genuine sign of autism.
>>29801078
So, first you need to be used in a government experiment from a dystopian society, who will give you super strength/intelligence. Then you'll become obsessed with Guy Fawkes and the Gun Powder Plot. Then go and steal a girl and redpill her into helping you destroy parliament. Also speak very calmly and quote things to make you sound hyper intelligent. You need to wear a mask, too.
Good luck.
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>>29802099
The problem is that it's difficult to measure but there has been studies that indicate certain types share the same brainwave patterns.
