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Alright so with all the mass shootings and terrorist attacks, it has me thinking... Why do these people, who spend years planning this shit and thousands of dollars, only end up killing like 5 people before they are stopped? It's fucking pathetic (but good in a sense I guess). Hell, with $5000 you could potentially create something horrifically catastrophic. So why hasnt there been an actual large-scale terrorist attack yet? Besides the Oklahoma bombing and 9/11 we have been extremely lucky in my opinion. Or maybe the government stops this shit at an alarmingly frequent rate. What do you guys think?
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Didnt someone just kill ten times that?
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I suspect there's a huge overlap between being willing to commit terrorism and being completely fucking retarded.
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>>29771134
Most of this isn't planned far in advance. If you're talking about bombs it is hard to make one large enough to kill dozens and also place it in a location where it will have maximum impact. Most bombs are designed to kill up to about 5 people, although some large attacks have been carried out using bombs like OK city or Beirut barracks bombing.

>>29771208
As this guy said it's easier to get an automatic weapon to kill people and take hostages so that they are killed in the crossfire during the final shootout.

The people who do some of these attacks are pretty delusional about how effective they'll be. The people carrying out these attacks are some combination of stupid and mentally ill.
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im a virgin. i watch a lot of porn. im a horny fuck. i had the chance to fuck a girl once, but there, in the moment, i was indescribably nervous, i was shaking, i couldnt get my benin up

i assume its similar when fantasizing about mass murder and actually being there in the moment to do it
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>>29771411
This is why groups like AQ and ISIS send handlers to make sure the guys go through with it. After the Brussels attack footage showed one accomplice who "chickened out" before the bombing. He was likely there to make sure those idiots actually did the deed by reminding them they could be martyrs or die in shame. He left before the attack to lay low and join another cell or return to HQ.
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Terrorism is a meme and total non issue. It's just a thinly veiled power grab. Even 9/11 killed very few people. Mudslimes wouldn't even give a shit about the west if we stopped toppling their governments and letting them immigrate in our countries. The problem solves itself just my ignoring them.
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>>29771467

Kek, jihadi cheerleaders. What a strange world we live in
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>>29771558
That's what most jihadi culture is. Cheering on the people who actually believe that shit and are willing to die for it.


BTW the 70's in America were full of domestic terrorism from black power groups to rich hippies. IRA, PKK and Hezbollah are pretty good to study too, they are different from otherwise because they largely target military and government agents and are capable of very surgical attacks. They differ from ISIS and AQ who kill anyone they can affiliate with the West.

Hezbollah killed over 200 marines and other troops/support staff in Beirut during the 80's in one attack. Recently PKK killed and wounded a number of pilots in Turkey, the pilots who had been bombing Kurdish regions. Pilots are expensive soldiers that require high amounts of training, in Arab regions pilots are often associated with the royal family.
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>>29771316
This seems to be pretty profoundly the case. Most times someone snaps they're also total fucking edge lord idiots as well as mental cases. The result is an enormous exaggeration of your capabilities, and you end up with Elliot. Found dead after being cucked by a door, missing most every shot he took, and sitting on a mountain or nine million unspent rounds in his car. The mildness of Elliot's actual impact compared to what he was "prepared" to do is pretty interesting.

I recall reading somewhere that Eric and Dylan planned a getaway car early on or something, essentially the same delusion. That they would be cinematically successful like Tarantino characters. Then Eric tried to handle his shotgun all cool like and shattered his fucking nose.

Point being: most edge fags seem to "fail" because they're delusional idiots. The "successful" crazies are the military ones like Whitman or McVeigh. As for why there haven't been huge terrorist attacks or anything outside of OKC and 911, I suspect the government does a pretty good job of catching that shit.

Also the combination of total mental case and also intelligent/calculating/trained/capable isn't really as common as robots are. Even Timmy had to get connected to some dumb ass bomb markers in the Midwest right? Didn't he spend a whole year living at gun shows handing out copies of racist propaganda and begging other people to shoot some guy from Waco before he went full retard?

Interesting question OP. I wonder if any criminology thesis or dissertation has written about spree killing in this light, it would be interesting to hear a scholarly consensus
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>>29771753
There's a good book called Going Postal that explores mass shooters, specifically workplace shootings.

If you read this article, http://exiledonline.com/we-the-spiteful/, and don't like it then don't look for the book as it's by the same author.
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>>29771802
I find these cases pretty morbidly fascinating, I'll give this a read.

What bugs me most is that the common narrative usually is that the shooters are crazy "other" boogeymen that just can't be understood and so they're mental.

I hate reading shit with that non-critical normalfag apologist tone, the perpetrators are usually intelligence to some important degree. Thanks for posting content anon.

Maybe we were morticians in another life or some equally macabre-interesting line of wagecuckery...
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>>29771860
I should warn you that the article is very tangentially related to terror or shooting, it involves why people vote for people that don't represent them.

There were some The Last Psychiatrist articles on shame killing that are worth looking into. He also wrote some on mass killings.
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>>29771934
Yeah i was just digging in and while interesting the article is a bit politically focused. I'll look into these as well thanks again anon.

Do you think OP is at fault linking mass shootings with terrorist attacks?
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No they havent stopped them at an alarming rate....they failed to prevent them at an alarming rate
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>>29772046
I think OPs point is that carrying out something "successful" like this doesn't seem very difficult. Which implies that it should be happening more frequently than it is.

The idea that the government is failing at an alarming rate doesn't really work if you take OPs point.
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As long as they kill 1 person and become a martyr for jihad they accomplished what they want. They truly believe that that is the closest way to heaven for them and thier loved ones that they get to choose to come with them once they are in heaven. Seems like a pretty sweet fucking deal if you believe it.
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>>29771134
The police and secret police of pretty much every country stops A LOT of terrorist attacks. The media just doesn't report them all because it would be too much to put out every day.
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>>29771998
No. Terrorism is a vague concept. Conventional air campaigns are designed to make enemy combatants afraid to leave their positions, does that qualify as terrorism? That might not be a perfect example, but I think it illustrates the point that terrorism is a buzzword. Terrorism is an attack designed to strike fear into an opposing group while bolstering support for your own. Getting revenge on your workmates could be considered terrorism but we (media, intellectuals, normalfags) call it terrorism. My brother is in the USMC and when they mention the second battle of Fallujah during the second Iraq war the enemy were called terrorists in official history, the reality is that they were closer to partisan fighters trying to restore the official government.
Also, I haven't read that book yet but it's on my backlog. I can't comment on details inside the book for that reason.
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>>29771753
What about cho?
or is he just an outlier?
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>>29772240
Cho has no trigger discipline
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>>29772187
Oh really? Where is this coming from?
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How many ppl have to die till they are" successful"?
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