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>your country

>where do you see yourself on the political spectrum
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>>29750137
How is libertarianism a less extreme form of fascism?
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>>29750137
Finland
50% left, so between liberalism and socialism?
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>>29750137
If you use this graph seriously you belong on the autistic spectrum.
At least use the 2d nonsense, it's slightly less shit.
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USA/california
Conservatism
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>>29750137
>USA

>market socialist so really left wing
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England.
Bisecting Moderate and Liberalism.
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>>29750137
>Ireland
>Anarchism

>inb4 leftie potato
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>>29750137
>USA/California
>Liberalism/Moderate
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>>29750325
You're the worst kind of person, you know that right?
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>>29750137
Canada

Fiscally center
Socially left-wing
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>>29750325
Fucking pinko bog wog
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>>29750137
>norway
>I don't
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South Africa

Alt right
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>northern England
>completely politically apathetic
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>>29750137
Socially I don't give a fuck. Go be gay, go be black, go be white/straight/bi/religious/atheist/demi-toaster-bi-gendered-cat-shemale. Don't infringe on others' rights and I don't give a fuck.

Politically I can find things that appeal to me all across the board. I'll happily defend a communist society and I'll happily defend a fascist society and anything in between. It's not the systems that are fucked up its the people in charge of them.

If the definition of Nazism dropped the hatred for Jews and replaced it with "The 1%" and it was headed by someone less violent than Hitler we'd all be pro-Nazis.
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Detroit, USA
Traditionalist/Reactionary
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>>29750366
thanks for reminding desu
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>>29750325
>anarchism

wew lad, robots would be fucked in anarchy

>>29750137
UK, I just want everything automated and people to have luxury and leisure, so some sort of social democrat/socialist I guess.
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United states, anarcho-syndicalist
come at me bootlickers
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>>29750838
Nat/syn best syn
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>libertarian farther from the middle than conservatism
>fascism on the right
Whoever made this should kill themselves
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>>29750884
Everyone knows all libertarians are just closet Nazis :^)
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>UK
>Libertarian

Which is a shame because there's no real libertarian movement/party in the UK. Only pussy liberals and fake conservatives.
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Whats the difference between corporatism and syndicalism?
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>>29750137
When I look at oir politicians you see:
Corrupted
Corrupted
Corrupted
That crazy comunist grandad who is somehow still alive
Corrupted
Social democrat because he doesnt steal as much as the others
Corrupted
Corrupted
Women so we look progressive
Corrupted
Nazi who says he is just patriot
Corrupted
...

I think I will stand behind crazy communist grandad
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UK
Socialism kind of

Really I'd be happy with anything that deviates from the political class we have here at the moment. That will never happen though, so it's pointless to get worked up over ideologies.
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>>29751072
Also,
>tfw eastern europe
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>>29750838
syndicalists glorify work, they're pretty normie tier
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>>29751092
>Really I'd be happy with anything that deviates from the political class we have here at the moment.
So then why are you a socialist
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>>29751092
>>29751092
>Really I'd be happy with anything that deviates from the political class we have here at the moment

See >>29750946
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>>29750946
ukip?
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>>29750272
>California
>High taxes
>Stricter gun laws than Canada
>Conservative
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>>29751135
it's not about glorifying work, it's just about realizing that industries are the economic centers of society and that they should be the social and political centers as well.
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Left leaning moderate.

I'm pretty much done caring about both sides though.
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>>29750202
Because a linear chart is not an accurate way to describe political affiliation
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>>29751179
While I like some of UKIP's policies, they are mostly just a populous one-trick-pony party.
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>>29751141
Because I want a government that serves the people with an adequate social safety net, rather than a govt that just serves themselves with whatever they're doing.

>>29751149
I don't see libertarianism happening in the UK any time soon. The political class would never willingly let themselves be eradicated. They're reluctant to even let Corbyn change anything, let alone some mad small government advocate.
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>>29751372
Small government for the poor, welfare for the rich. "Libertarianism" in the American/capitalist sense is a joke, it was always associated with socialism before the late 20th century. No such thing as freedom under capitalism

Universal Fully Automated NEETism when?
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New Zealand
NEETism
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>>29750137
live in canada
i'd be in the middle
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>>29750137
>Venezuela
>conservative
Wake me up
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>>29751372
Stop calling yourself a socialist retarded liberal scum.
Socialists want worker ownership of the means of production. You are a filthy fucking welfare lover. You want the state to shove its boot so far up your ass you cant extract it. End yourself.
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>>29750137
>1 dimensional graph
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>>29750137
>United Kingdom
>Libertarian (An-Cap)
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>>29750137
Canada
Socialist. I believe that capitalism is fine in anything that doesn't affect a person's quality of life. Everyone should have free food, shelter, and healthcare (including mental health). Basic education should also be free, up to a college degree.
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>>29752215
Nope, all terrible.
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>>29752215
Fuck off liberal. Stop calling yourself a socialist. Socialists acknowledge that the bourgeoisie extract the surplus value of the proletariat, and as a result seek the abolition of private industry. If you don't agree with this, you are not a socialist.
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>>29752329
lol okay, crazy person. I guess I'm a communist, then.
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>>29752329
You are right, he is a Communist. All of the things Canadabro has listed requires the state to steal the income and assets of it's citizens and this is done through centralization.
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>>29752215
I think this type of socialism can work in a closed society that has good family values in an educational system focused on upbringing ethical, hardworking people.

I guess you can say I'm a National Socialist.
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South Africa

Libitarian
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>>29752421
No fuck off liberal scum.
Nothing involved with the state has anything to do with workers.
What you want is a welfare state. Or perhaps you want the state to own everything, which is state capitalism (like in stalinism (a type of state capitalism), where the state elites replaced the bourgeosie). In other words you are a liberal, and a filthy fucking class traitor.
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>>29752447
>steal the income
>steal
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>>29752447
Communism has nothing to do with fucking welfare states.
Communism is about workers controlling the industries, abolition of private property. Communism is a classless, stateless society.
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>>29752490
steal

verb
gerund or present participle: stealing
1.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
>thieves stole her bicycle
>the government stole his income
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>>29752571
Tax
noun
plural noun: taxes
1.
A compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.

Kind of important, anon.
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>>29752616
>The current year
>Implying taxation is not theft
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>>29750325
Kill yourself
>Ireland
>Fascism
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>>29752616
compulsory contribution is literally the same thing as taking without permission
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>>29752654
>>29752644
You benefit from society, you pay for society. That's how it works, anon. I guarantee you get back a lot more than you pay in.
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>>29752703
That's not the point anon, It's the lack of consent. I am not consenting to giving taxes. It is taken by force and if I do not give into the government stealing my income they will hold me at gunpoint in put me in a cell. If I wanted the services I would pay for them by the free market.
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>>29750137
>Tennessee (ultimate meme state)
>fascist
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>>29752782
Go live in the woods, then.
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Libertarian, but in no way fascist.
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>>29752703
> I guarantee you get back a lot more than you pay in.
even if that were true, which it isn't, that still has nothing to do with the fact that the government uses force to steal taxes from you , which makes it morally equivalent to theft
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USA
Moderate right wing constitutionalist
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>>29750137
Estonia
I kind of believe in fascism
Everyone should put their country, people, culture and heritage in first place
Everyone else comes second
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>>29752825
>Go live in the woods, then.
Move to North Korea then.

Why should I have to move? I like city life. I do not wish for the state to give me anything and in turn do not wish to give anything to it. If I was to fall sick that would be on me. I also have no problem with other people living within a centralized system as long as they have all consented to being there and don't leave me alone.
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>>29752782
No one consented to being born. You aren't entitled to anything when you spend upwards of 15 years as a dependant on society. We were probably all born in a hospital, received schooling, child benefits, etc... it's not fair to deny these things to children whose parents are fucking horrible.
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>>29750137
Canada = Between Socialism and Liberalism
Me = Between Moderate and Conservatism
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>>29752853
Sorry to hear you live in America. Join us up here in Canada where you'll never go to jail for debt.
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>>29752088
Welfare is good though. Stay mad wagie.
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>>29752953
>leave america
>for canada
HAHAHAHA
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>>29752977
I guess you hate freedom. Or poutine. Whatever, man.
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>>29752922
>meh feels
>gif free shit
>big meanies not giving me free shit
>weed dude lmao
>XDDDDDDD
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>>29753085
I don't need free shit, but I'm happy to give away my some of my income so other people can live happy, comfortable lives as well.
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>>29753132
That's very nice of you anon. But not everyone has the same opinion as you. I on the other hand would rather not give away some of my income and in turn do not expect anything back.
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>>29753230
What if you break your spine and can't work any more? What if your parents had died when you were 5 and no one could take care of you? These things could have easily happened and have happened to others. Wouldn't you be grateful for taxes in those circumstances?
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>>29750137
This chart is not right, libertarianism has nothing to do with whether youre conservative or not
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Ideally I believe in correct conservative values (though I'm no fucking religious rightist that can't even fucking bother to try and keep faggot marriage from being a thing) but since we're all fucked and Hillary is officially ending US Independence and Freedom come November I might as well try to get as many NEETbux as I can and hope I don't get my internet taken away from me for being too much of a virgin.
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>>29750137
Australia
Conservative
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>>29750137
Who was the idiot who made this chart?
>libertarianism being that far right
>liberalism being that far left
But anyway, USA and left-libertarian. Fuck the government and fuck capitalism.
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>>29753272
No I wouldn't anon. Because I would know that the money was stolen from hard working people, its simply not right. If I broke my spine esc then I would either pay for the treatment or die. What I want is the ability for people to choose if they do not wish to consent to state taxation and pay for the likes of insurance instead. I'm not saying other people who want to pay taxes to a state shouldn't be able to. I'm just saying you shouldn't be forced to pay for something you do not want against your will.
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>>29753132
>>29753272
>I'd be willing to donate to help people, therefore everyone should be forced to donate to help people and anyone who doesn't want to is an asshole.
Your ideology is shit
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>>29751796
This. Libertarianism used to be a working class party against the greed of capitalism during the Industrial Revolution. However, the definition of Libertarianism has changed so much today that it goes against the founding principles of what it used to be.
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>being anything but radically moderate
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>>29753550
that's not true
also communism is shit
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>>29750137
I don't know. There are plenty of things I support on the right that the left would never think of supporting. There are lots of things on the left that I support that the right doesn't as well.

Does that make me a moderate or what?
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