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Can you respect a submissive woman? I can't. Its the most disgusting thing a woman can be and the majority of them are submissive and want to be dominated. maybe like 70%. It's just too fucked up to me, I want a regular girl with normal healthy views on sex. Do you think they realize that they're just so fucked for wanting that? Do they care? I think most don't realize it because women always get what they want for the most part and the ones who do realize I think they don't care because they're getting what they want from asshole guys anyways.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/valentina-rayas/2015/10/18-women-share-what-they-love-about-being-sexually-dominated/

If any qt pure girls see this thread please be my gf. Save me from this hell. Bonus points if you think most humans are scum.
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How can this be respected? Why would I want to date a girl like this? Knowing she's done this to other guys? Knowing that her mind wants to do sick shit like this?
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>>29744639
Im surprised that theres still many "men" or "nu-males" out there still comfortable with dominating a woman.
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>He bases his worldview on pornographic exaggeration and salon-tier clickbait articles

Wew lad
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>>29744648
because these girls LOOK like theyre the type that do that...you know what I mean.....you can spot them a fuckin mile off m8

>>29744658
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>>29744639
it's normal to be a girl and to be submissive, it's normal to want to give up control, be spanked, cummed on.
it's not normal to do shit like >>29744608
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>>29744639
>I want a regular girl with normal healthy views on sex

The healthy view on sex is accepting that most men enjoy being dominant in bed, while most women enjoy getting dominated most of the time, dumb virgin poster.
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>>29744658
I take it you never talk to women or hear them talk to each other about sex. they're all like this.
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>>29744639
Just remember don't trust women anon. Maybe a virgin or a girl with only 1 boyfriend before and 0 other sexual partners.
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I don't mind
As long as their shill about my shit, whatever
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>>29744639
Why would you want a misanthropist gf?

That's like one of the major red flags in women.
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>>29744639
I honestly thought being dominated through sex was just a guy moving you around with his hands or making you have sex when he wants it.

What would I know I'm a female virgin. The only thing I will eat from the floor is some candy following the 3 second rule. I hate dropping skittles
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>>29744672
>The healthy view on sex is accepting that most men enjoy being dominant in bed

>Be a roastie
>Only have sex with assholes and chads
>Think the world is based on the view from her vagina as it gets pounded mercilessly while shes being choked and degraded
>Thinks all men want this
>Comes to r9k of all places and posts this shit

Lol fucking roasties man
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>Literally ALL women are naturally sexually submissive
>Will not be dominant unless they are paid and don't know what you actually want
Mommy gfs are unicorns
A woman locking you up in chastity, verbally abusing you for sexual reasons, or who is sadistic for sexual reasons does not exist.

I think it's ridiculous to say "all women want X" but it's true here and it's boring.
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>>29744703
>implying you wouldn't snort chad's cum

come on now, you're a slut in the making like all girls
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>>29744710
At least I know what I'm talking about. You'd probably sing a different tune if you had good sex once or twice in your life, or any at all, for that matter. *shrugs*
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>>29744703
>female virgin

I have some questions:
1. How old are you
2. Are any of your friends female virgins
3. Is there any particular reason you are a virgin
4. How do I find a female virgin
5. Will you be my gf
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>>29744735
>you don't know anything! you've never had sex!
>i've had sex so i know everything!

cut your balls off and flush them you son of a cancer nigger
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"It's ok anon let me raise your child and be a mother. My submissive nature says nothing about my personality or my mind. I deserve to be with a guy like you despite being a total fucking sex object."

What do you say anons?
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How can anybody love a non virgin if they have done all kinds of depraved shit like this? It's like finding a half eaten taco and finishing it
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>>29744703
Ya okay probably some fat slug who gave up on sex like half the Virgins here. I bet if a ripped dude asked you would so anything he wants
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>>29744774
That's the whole point, idiot. Of course, you can teach track and field athletes about pole vaulting but they won't listen to your gibberish if they know that you've never gotten your pole out yourself.
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>>29744702
Because she sees how shitty the majority of humans are and how fucked up this world is. That would be something we have in common and could connect on. It would feel like she always had my back and an understanding compared to a dumb roasite normie gf who would live in her own world and have her own expectations of me to conform to her social life and social standards. She would have lived a whole life being accepted and desired and cared for by guys and society so she would have a positive view on the world that I simply can not have.
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>>29744858
kill yourself with a pole in your asshole
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There's probably a line between dominating and degrading your partner. A healthy male's role is to be dominant.
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>>29744735
I do know what you're talking about roastie.

I just don't like it, but like i said you just can't imagine a world beyond your own vagina and the tingly feelings it gets. I have had sex multiple times before so your insult is just plain wrong.

Sorry I don't trust a girl who lets guys abuse her and dominate and degrade her. If you can't see why then thats your fault.
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>>29744890
>There's probably a line between dominating and degrading your partner. A healthy male's role is to be dominant.

This is what roasties believe lol
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>>29744783
This. I couldn't manage to look at a girl the same once she has been a submissive little slut let alone marry her and raise a kid with her. My ex lied about her past to me and I found out through mutual friends that she was a total fucking whore and I instantly broke it off with her even though I loved her. Just can't trust women like that and its disgusting.
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>>29744945
You're doing god's work, my friend
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>>29744945
Man up and date that slut you misogynist.
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>>29744920
Do you want your gf to act like a man in bed and peg your ass? Then go fuck a dude.

The man is leading. He's assuming the dominant role even if it's by a small margin. Same when you're dancing, same when you're having a conversation. However, the line gets crossed into the land of dysfunction when you piss on someone and verbally abuse them.
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I have a theory that sexual deviation comes from lack of sexual contact and low self esteem.

Haven't you ever noticed that it's never the INCREDIBLY hot girls that like being dominated? It's always the slightly hot ones, the chubby ones, and the titlet ones.

I believe that if a woman gets little to no sexual contact, she will become a deviant of a level inverse to the level of sexual contact she's received.
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>>29745090
>Haven't you ever noticed that it's never the INCREDIBLY hot girls that like being dominated?
No, in fact that has never occurred to me, and I've never seen any obvious examples of this. Also, most women get plenty of sex even if they are slightly hot, chubby or titlet.
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>>29745090
daddy issues, repression
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>>29745090
Lol, is this what most people on this board believe? People just like having sex and trying out new stuff.

Also, you've got some guts posting about your theories on women with little to no sexual contact on a board obsessed with tfw no gf and porn.
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>>29745137
Not necessarily sex but ATTENTION.

Just because you're an ugly loser who never got a girl doesn't mean that every girl has constant sex :)
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do women even think for a second about their "arguments"?
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>>29744639

I'm a dominant guy and I've really enjoyed reading all the orbital butthurt in this thread.

>b-but your gf is a roastie!
>muh "healthy" sexuality

You people literally do nothing but post on a Malaysian cat fishing forum all day. ALL DAY. You don't go outside. You don't try to talk to girls. And then you post on here about those meanie poo poo pants roasties who know what they want.

Yeah, sure, there are girls that love being dominant. My gf does. We love switching off roles. See that? Healthy sexuality.

Letting go of that purity you fags are always try-harding for is the only way for you all to achieve pussy salvation...

But hey. Less competition for normies like me, eh?
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>>29745228
No people don't "just like having sex and trying out new stuff" it's sexual deviation. There is a cause. People don't just suddenly decide they like to be tied down and fed cum.
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>>29745088
>Do you want your gf to act like a man in bed and peg your ass? Then go fuck a dude.

No i want her to act compassionate and not like a whore.

>The man is leading. He's assuming the dominant role even if it's by a small margin

Roasties cant function without dominance lol

>Same when you're dancing, same when you're having a conversation.

Or you can both dance equally and conversations can be back and forth with no dominance. Your mind is gutter.

>Same when you're dancing, same when you're having a conversation.

This is you just thinking your vagina = the world view again. You don't like if i have a less favorable view of sexuality than you and now you prove to dislike those who have a more extreme sexual view than yours instead of accepting it like you tell me to accept yours.

roastie
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>>29745333
Actually... people do love trying new stuff. If you weren't such a fucking virgin, you'd know that.
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99 in 100 feminist are like oic related
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>>29745090
Hmm yes.

The attractive girls I have been with seemed to care a lot less about dominating and more about the actual relationship than the uglier ones. They were okay with just going to the movies, then out and talking about things over coffee and going home and having regular vanilla sex.
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>>29745393
>Roasties cant function without dominance lol

Dude. You literally can't function enough to fuck women.

>Muh equality

World's not equal, moron. That's why some guys have more sex than you.
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>>29745312
"Dude vagina LOL! Am i rite?? Pussy lmao! Just need to cum in that shit brosef hahah lol"
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>>29745424
>The attractive girls I have been with
Lol. Yeah sure, buddy.

Did you ever try to get them turned on by acting dom? They might have surprised you, you vanilla shit goblin.
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>>29745426
>>calm rational argument
>YEAH WELL YOU'RE A VIRGIN
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>>29745447

You guys sure love your chad memes. Does it make you feel less pathetic?

Or when you call girls roasties for not fucking you?
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>>29744639
70%? More like 95%.
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>>29745399
That word degraded is so off putting. I get triggered everytime i see it thinking about a girl who likes that.
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Anyone want to explain this all?
I am a simple 36 year old kv, so I don't know how any of this works.
When does the shit eating and pissing come about? Do you wait until you get into things or is this brought up immediately?

>>29744678
>hear women talk to each other about sex

I have heard this things, and it was amazing to me. I remember being on a bus with girls college soccer team on way to tournament. They talked about guys they were fucking, dick size, and vagina issues. This one guy on men's team fucked a few of them and they laughed about how he would squeeze their tits really hard when he would cum. He was good in bed except for that.
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>>29745395
Lol you're all over this thread, such a fucking roastie. Get off this board before you realize that your life is a sham built entirely around a faulty worldview, or worse, that the second you turn 30 all of the attention you've been getting all of your life will vanish and you'll be nothing but a washed up whore only wanted by the beta orbiters you denied for years.
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They're all submissive. It's in their nature.
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this thread is fucking virgin hell cringe

>not all girls who like to be dominated have mental or daddy issues

perhaps she's a princess/queen 24/7 and that's her way of subconsciously filtering all the beta bitches + finding herself a leader? a dominant male?

also bdsm / d/s isn't just about being degraded. being ravaged, taken, is also a type of expressed love and desire. it can also be super hot for the girl bc she's into damsel in distress scenarios from all the anime / marvel / stories and fairytales she's seen? and perhaps she had a heart for the villain more than the hero?

>tfw when villain ties you up and keeps you for himself, makes you his
>see dracula
>saving purity for this one man, who truly deserves it, and can lead you b/c you have 0 experience

Dom/sub = a beautiful fantasy
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>>29745469
chad invader got triggered, back to /b/reddti with you, alpha winner.
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>>29745426
>Dude. You literally can't function enough to fuck women.

I can, i just don't want a woman who cant function without being dominated. Its a huge red flag for relationship disaster.

>World's not equal, moron. That's why some guys have more sex than you.

No they have more sex than me because they care about sex more like this post >>29745447
points out

Their mindset is just about vagina and getting laid as if theres nothing else rewarding in the world.

You can't see a world where sex isnt everything because you're a roastie.
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>>29745454
Who has the calm rational arguments?

You guys do nothing but call guys who actually get it chads, or sexually deviant, as if acting like a right wing christian is going to net in that pussy...

Or you get vitriolic about the "roasties".

Admit it. You guys are butthurt and don't want to play the game. Because you are constantly losing the game, you blame the rules... and the players.

You guys want to be seen as calm or rational? Why don't you make a real argument that doesn't rely on kink shaming? Better yet... just go out of your house, lose some weight, get in shape. And then realize that women like to be fucked. Some like to be dommed. Some don't. Some won't return your attention with sex and that's ok.

Oh that's right. M-muh chad shit holes and roasties maymays?
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>>29744720
>A woman locking you up in chastity, verbally abusing you for sexual reasons, or who is sadistic for sexual reasons does not exist
Why is the world so cruel
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>>29745393
I'm a dude. You didn't acknowledge that it's natural for men to be more dominant. You didn't acknowledge that there's a gradient, as if any degree of submission is a sign of dysfunction in a woman.
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>>29745312
There's a difference between getting dominated and slurping cum off the floor

Would you really marry and have kids with a woman who has slurped another man's cum off the floor? You sound like a cuck, not a dom
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there is also something so beautiful about primal nature. a deer meeting a lion

<3

shy girl meets perfect villain <3
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>>29745523
You don't have to be a "right wing christian" to realize that Chads are a thing, and roasties are a thing.
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>>29745484
Lel... now I'm a woman? Damn, you guys are so salty.
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>>29744639
You sound like a faggot, of course women want to be sexually dominated. That doesn't nessacairly mean they want to do some BDSM porn kind of shit
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>>29745535
The lion devours the fucking deer, you normie retard.
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>>29745448
No I found the more stereotypical beautiful blonde girl next door type they were (not that their hair had to be blonde or they had to be white just that image of beauty though) the more wholesome they were and the less they cared about sex. They cared more about having a solid relationship. I'm talking about 9.5/10 and 10/10 girls. Not the 7's or 8s with thongs hanging out in slutty booty shorts and their bras obviously showing with their tank top.
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>>29745556
Oh so you're just a white knight?
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>>29745469
Dude VAGINA!! LOL!
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IT'S ALSO ABOUT TRUST

i would never give myself to some random fuckboy on the street (no matter how chad he is) - but would willingly do so for the right person, the right one who matches w/ me, heart and soul, and would both corrupt and protect me <3

it's trust
>to give yourself to one who can both corrupt and protect you
>rare ability

and you don't give that away to any fucking random who will do your math hw for you after class or grovel at your feet. fuck no

also if he is a true leader, i'll naturally respect him. respect / love / fear / lust / etc
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>>29745500
It's hard to be all that triggered. More like I'm amused at how hard you all have it. Not only are most of you spending way too much time here, but you get baited easily enough, showing lack of emotional control, and you all echo chamber the perfect pussy repellent memes.

Why would I be triggered about other guys making it harder on themselves?
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>>29745556
DUDE SALTY LMAO
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>>29745469
"She's not a roastie, who cares how many mens she's been with bro. Everyone has STDs nowawaday anyways."
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>>29745601
She's tried every trick in the book

>you're virgins!
>you're just jealous!
>you're salty!

But at the end of the day, she'll be licking cum off the floor. What a pitiful existence she's leading.
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>>29745509
>You can't see a world where sex isnt everything because you're a roastie.

Lol, so mad. You know my world view so well right? I suppose I must have sex all the time and that's all my gf is to me?

Damn, you guys are fucking magic.
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>>29745595
"IT'S ABOUT TRUST I'M NOT A WHORE"

Lol try as you might you're just a degenerate.
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>>29745595
finding someone who is able to do that (corrupt and protect you) is rare as fuck and you'll never find a guy like that bc most are fucking dweeb 4chan retards like you all

mouthbreathing faggots are the worst and the reason why i don't talk to boys

bc its impossible to find a dominant guy like that
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>>29745543
Butthurt losers are also a thing. I don't see you guys talking about that.

You gonna call me a roastie like the others...?
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>>29745484
Hmm the hivemind is taking pace faster than I thought. This is good news.
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>>29744702
This. Misanthropes are generally extremely shitty people who just want an excuse to be shitty.

Yes, humanity is shit. But so is every animal species. This is a dog eat dog world. The difference is that humans are the least shitty species. Work with what you have.
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>>29745583
Nah. I just know how to fuck women. They don't need to be defended from losers who never leave the basement, don't worry.
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>>29745628
ok troll lmfao

>calls me whore, degenerate
>im a virgin who could shit on you irl

foh anal prolapse lookin ass nigga
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>>29745671
Then why are you defending them?
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>>29745499
>subconsciously filtering all the beta bitches + finding herself a leader? a dominant male?

Obviously but you only seem to think women have needs. Men have needs and desires too. They're human just like you roasite. Having a woman who needs to be dominated to function in a relationship is not desirable for a lot of guys just like so many of them hate sluts naturally. Grow up roastie.

The rest if what you wrote is just you rambling on what makes your vagina tingle and im not going to bother responding to it.
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What about girls that want gentle romantic maledom?
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>>29745692
>implying there's such a thing, and implying that girls would want it
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>>29745640
go away look for a "dominant" misterious man, you'll be dead in a dich soon after
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>>29745683
how does submissiveness entail slutdom?

one can be naturally submissive and absolute pure virgin innocent but with fantasies of being dominated. i'm not going to go into detail of why this is the case / start psychoanalyzing and offering original stories, but what you think is an absolute laugh lmao

just b/c a girl wants to be dominated DOESN'T mean she goes out looking for it?? or that she would just bend over for any fucking random chad or beta on the street

get real
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>>29745614
Well, you guys actually are jealous, salty, virgins. But, none of you actually answered any of my points.

For those of you who actually have sex, how many times? And did you actually fuck a sub chick?

Go ahead and tell me of your experiences. And if you don't have any: give me a good reason to listen to your point of view.

This "roastie" is waiting.
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>>29745711
>masculine men like killing people

I thought /r9k/ was supposed to be against the feminist mindset.
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>>29745731
It just fucking does, what is so hard to understand about the fact that you're a roastie whore whose greatest achievement is in mental gymnastics?
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>>29745679
Giving myself a laugh != defending them.

Stay mad, robot.
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>>29745742
a masculine does not want you eating his shit and piss at demand without a question?
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>>29745742
Except you see we don't base our opinions on "mindsets" we base our opinions on OPINIONS.
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>>29745692
you must be new

>doesnt explore
>makes assumptions

lmao please go fucking read an erotic novel (more than one) and lrn 2 IRL

tfw r9k is filled with bitter bitch boys who have never spoken with a girl in their lives so they echochamber to death based on fake testimonials and act as if their say matters lololol
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Why is it that every girl is either submissive or a ballbusting femdom? Why is there little inbetween?
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>>29745763
>It just fucking does

>M-muh enemy uses mental gymnastics

Riiiight. Don't explain your point (because you have no evidence and you know it) and tell others they use mental gymnastics.

Get off this japanese whaling board and step outside of Plato's cave, you sheepish mental midget.
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>>29745797
>>29745399
no there its not
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>>29745788
>Literally do nothing but use chad and roastie memes and kink shame

W-we don't use "mindsets"!
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>>29745734
What would you do if you found out your gf ate cum off the floor?
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>>29745797
There is definitely stuff in between dumbass. About 70-80% of women like being dominated, 28-18% like vanilla sex/other unrelated fetishes, and MAYBE 2% like to dominate.

50% of men like to dominate, 30% like vanilla sex/unrelated fetishes, and 20% like to be dominated.
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I really do think it's "normal" for a woman to like being dominated but it's also not abnormal for her to want to switch up.

I don't think I'd ever wanna like, peg a guy or anything more than being on top. It's kind of shitty to say but I'd feel weird taking the guy role, I guess I'm not one of those genderfluid people.
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>>29744639
Couldn't you just be a man instead?
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You sound jealous OP.
All the people in this thread are either jealous or enjoy using them and see no problem with it.

Personally I can't help but wonder how someone who gets off on being controlled can simply 'switch off' that desire outside of the bedroom.
Just kidding, I know they can't.
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>>29745528
>I'm a dude.
Roastie

> You didn't acknowledge that it's natural for men to be more dominant

Nature does not equal society. Decent human beings don't require a man to piss on them or call them degrading names to be a viable partner. Cavemen did not piss on girls and do all of this other made up shit, a lot of sex stuff is a meme manufactured by society and normies go along with it, most of it is not found in nature but society of people. The more you go to the animal side of dominance and the more you go to the human meme of dominance the worse you are as a person in my view. Sorry not sorry but im allowed to have my opinion on you animals.

Pic related, its your average girl who says her past doesnt matter and her liking dominate sex doesnt matter. Why would I choose that girl over a virgin? I wouldn't, The more your gradiant goes to woman in the picture and away from the virgin the less I like you.
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>>29745846
From another boyfriend? I wouldn't care. I'm not so insecure that I would start worrying about that. And if she did do something like cheat on me? I'd find another... It's really that simple.

I actually have options. Do you morons realize that?

And besides... eating cum is pretty fucking tame, but how would you even be expected to know that?
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>>29745856
You're a whore if you don't want to gag your boyfriend with a strap-on.

it's 2016, come on!
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>>29745640
Yeah but guys on 4chan wouldnt want you more than a pump and dump you roastie whore.
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>>29745883
>Using a pornstar to showcase an average girl

>Doesn't realize how fucking mind numbingly retarded that is
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>>29745644
Yes i've noticed it too. I've been observing certain threads and picked up on the common theme. Will report back to headquarters.
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>>29745822
Alright fine, slut. Submission is related because the exact same thing that causes being a slut causes submission, as well as both involving the same behaviors. They both love attention. Girls become sluts because they have daddy issues and want attention, and they become submissives for the same reason.
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Thanks for laughs, guys! This "roastie" is gonna go fuck his gf now and think on how pathetic you all are.
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>>29745841
>kink shame
lol nice buzzword fucker, yeah i'm gonna shame you for having degenerate perversions because you deserve to be shamed for them.
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>>29745856
Gonna direct every single person in this thread that says degeneracy in sex is a result of "experimentation" to this post.
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I wouldn't even consider myself dominant and I've pissed on 2 girls and had 1 lick my ass and cum on the face of a dozen others.
I think most men are happy girls are like this, but I can understand how it may perturb those whose knowledge of women will only ever be academic.
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>>29744920
>There are no grey areas or subtleties to human behaviour
>Everything is black and white because i don't understand

This is what autists actually believe
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>>29745692
>gentle romantic maledom
Thats just code word for Chad with shirt off in blue jeans and a rose being held in between his teeth to be honest.
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>>29745931
They become sub because of the same reasons?

Why are you using such concrete statements on what is essentially just an armchair psychology approach to the issue?

Maybe some girls like being subs because it's fucking taboo. Society taboos girls that don't act like angels. Pick anything that is taboo and people wanna do it. We're curious and deviant like that.

See the states that legalized weed? Weed usage went down. Because the taboo was taken off.

If girls were allowed to act like sluts and it wasn't tabooed by normie society, I assure you they probably would act less slutty.

It's usually other girls that do this, however. Other girls love having their pussy price high on demand so they demean any other girls that threaten that. This creates artificial amounts of taboo on female sexuality. So you guys are right to be mad at girls... but it's probably not the reasons you were expecting.
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>>29745907
>implying i would ever want someone from here

o-ok

LMAO

fuck hahahahahaaha thank you for the giggles
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>>29745950
Oh no. I'm being shamed by some guy who probably plays too much Overwatch and spends too much time on a Filipino cat herding forum.
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>>29745931
>what


also psa

subs have hard limits you vanilla degenerates

as much as you'd wish a girl to eat your ass she prob never will and i sure as fuck would never - no matter who he is and what he is to me
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tfw bf is submissive
tfw I love it
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>>29746023
But, m-lady! THESE GENTLEMEN ARE SUCH FINE SPECIMENS!

kekoslovakia
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>>29746057
>not being with a real man
I suppose you don't deserve one anyway.
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>>29745731
>how does submissiveness entail slutdom?
It entails the thought processes of a whore. You don't have to have a lot of sex to be a whore, its a mind set and a disgusting one.

The girl you described, submissive and pure virgin innocent but fantasies of being dominated is probably 1% of adult females above the age of like 20. That girl sounds great, I wouldn't want her to like the domination but the pure and innocent and virgin is good enough but girls like that rarely exist anymore so whats the point?

>or that she would just bend over for any fucking random chad or beta on the street

Except that people arent psychic and can't tell if a girl is going to hurt them or not. Preference towards dominance instead of a mutual relationship is a warning sign.
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>>29745883
We're having a miscommunication. Pissing on someone and verbal degradation crosses the line for me, as I've stated earlier. For me dominant behavior is a gradient and starts with light degrees of taking charge of a situation. E.g. guy asking a girl out.

You throw out a lot of insults and act distrusting of my statements merely on me taking a different view. If we're talking about red flags, that's one. It's unnecessary to make your point and turns me off from further attempting to engage in discussion with you.
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I can't believe how much the Jerry Springer effect helped me feel awesome after reading all this autism.

You guys are really cathartic.
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>>29745973
I don't think experimenting is degenerate inherently, it shouldn't be encouraged or discouraged. I feel the same way about homosexuality, but it's all in the same spectrum.

Not that I think that every subset of personality type in this spectrum needs an identifier as a "gender," people just need to stop trying so hard and be honest about what they like. Stop pigeonholing and polarizing everything about the human experience.
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>>29746082
You sound like a functioning member of society. What are you doing on a robot small dick contest forum?
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>>29745864
Being a man is knowing what you want.

A whore to spend your time with is something I do not want.
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you autists will never know what aftercare is like
holding your sub, still catching her breath
the joy you feel
the depth of your love discovered
through the depth of your perversion
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>>29746112
The gene pool thanks you.
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>roasties actually think men see them as long term partners after they let themselves be dominated and degraded during sex

top jej.
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>>29745897
This to be honest. I know you're joking but I couldnt trust a woman as a partner unless if shes only cofmortable with a monotone sexuality of male dominance and can't explore things beyond her own preference. She also can't be a slut.
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>>29746130
its an illusion
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>>29746154
>can't explore things beyond her own preference

The idea is to find someone who prefers the same things.
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>>29746078
>It entails the thought processes of a whore. You don't have to have a lot of sex to be a whore, its a mind set and a disgusting one.

what? no. you're fucking ignorant as shit. i can't bother to argue with you about this but you sound like a true amish mormon cult leader fucked up "GIRLS CANNOT HAVE DREAMS" type of faggot. do you judge people based on singular thoughts? some people wish to be dominated but also know that they would resist / fight back / never give into said 'villain' or 'dom' because it's not just about submitting yourself and being a free sex toy. some people actually relish in not giving in and never allowing him to get what he wants, despite the fact that he can. it's about breaking down a sub's will. don't assume that people who are submissive have 0 will whatsoever or resistance.

>I wouldn't want her to like the domination
she can secretly like it but also hate it at the same time. i know it's a fucking weird contradiction, but it exists.

>Preference towards dominance instead of a mutual relationship is a warning sign.

depends on where she is in life / who she is talking to / what's going on. infinite # of factors here. also perhaps she's a female cyborg who just has 0 feelings and gave up on all hopes of ever having a normal relationship with a man bc she's also autist so simply hopes her 1 interaction will be a kidnapping, abduction, rape, or forced scenario

(this is purely fantasy however)
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>>29745981
Dominating and degrading are the greys of something thats in the black already. Once you go to being submissive to a dominate guy you;re already in the dead zone. Liking regular sex and normal healthy things would make you not in the black end of the scale.

Also i was talking more about the meme of a males role is to be dominate than disntiguishing between domiance and degrading, both of which are filfthy and you should be shamed for you roastie.
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>>29745888
Holy shit, what a fucknig KEK LOL

HOLY SHIT, ahahahahahah, are you serious? fucking cuckold piece of shit
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>>29746016
>because it's fucking taboo.
Still disgusting though despite the reasoning.

I don't care what the reasoning is I care that they're doing it. What you're saying is that its okay to pick your nose and eat in public because it itched.


>If girls were allowed to act like sluts and it wasn't tabooed by normie society, I assure you they probably would act less slutty.

Thats what we have no with slut acceptance culture and they are sluttier than ever. You can't reasonably expect 100% of people to not find it disgusting to be a slut with STDs and being easy.
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>>29745395

>people love trying new stuff

Then why do they constantly have to be encouraged to?
I don't think people like trying new stuff, they find a certain thing that resonates with them and more often than not stick to it.
'Trying new stuff' just for the novelty is rare, most people try new stuff to find out what they like. If that were not true, fetishism wouldn't be so common.
The point of this threda, despite the inarticulate exceptions of the robots, is that most women try new things and find out they like being sexually submissive.

I think this is a reflection of certain qualities, but you're probably babby enough to think you can just 'turn off' things going on in your brain that you barely understand.
Such cases.
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>>29745595
>(no matter how chad he is)
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>>29746047
>subs have hard limits you vanilla degenerates
Yes and my limit is a girl being a sub.

>as much as you'd wish a girl to eat your ass she prob never will and i sure as fuck would never -

This thread is the exact opposite of that.
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>>29744766
>1. How old are you
20
>2. Are any of your friends female virgins
No friends. Females don't like me
>3. Is there any particular reason you are a virgin
Don't talk to people, don't get approached, find comfort at home, socially retarded and don't know how to do relationship stuff
Childlike but not in the stupid kind of way.
>4. How do I find a female virgin
Religion, arranged marriages, through family or know them since high school, don't be extremely shallow in high school not everyone grows into their looks early
>5. Will you be my gf
No. You're a stranger.

>>29744839
Read above. I'm 20 BMI 112 pounds 5'2"
I worked hard to lose weight and I watch what I eat now. I've had chads talk to me at work, besides them making me uncomfortable with their jokes I can't understand and having beautiful smiles I don't throw out my trust because someone looks attractive for about 15 years.

If there's anything I can't stand it's being bored or someone being completely dull.
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>>29744639

>normal healthy views on sex

A woman who wants to be submissive and dominated by her man IS healthy and normal. She desires what she's supposed to, what makes biological sense.

Men are to dominate women.

Women are to submit to men.
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>>29746251
edit: fantasy as in that girl will prob stay virgin forever bc meeting a guy who can take you in that way (without using you as a tool) is quite rare

(which is why there are places you can search for people who are like-minded, but the subgenres even within bdsm are more numerous than colors of a spectrum)

i think everyone on 4chan / r9k would be happy if we all stopped hating and used our desperate self-loathing virgin selfs for a beautiful legendary orgy where we let go of all ignorance and misinformed judgement

https://youtu.be/Oic7kJRg_F0

no minors allowed
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I don't get it. You all want them to be subs outside the bedroom.

It's such a relief to learn that her actual chief goals in sex are to be used however you like and for you to cum inside of her or on her face

It's so nice to share priorities and joy
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I love it because it puts a woman in their place as their man's property. it's only hot if they're completely submissive though, "feminist in the streets submissive in the sheets" is a turnoff imo
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>>29746251
>because it's not just about submitting yourself and being a free sex toy.

see this is what women don't understand, that is all it actually is. I love dominant rough sex, I love cumming on girls faces, making them call me daddy and shoving my fingers down their throat until they almost puke. I love pulling their hari with one hand and choking them with the other I've even pissed on a few girls.

Do you think when its all over and I'm looking at this woman with at bare minimum my jizz all over her that I'm thinking of how I would love to start a family with her, and grow old together? spoilers im fucking not
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>>29744639
>dating non-submissive women
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>>29746082
>We're having a miscommunication
No I communicated that the more on the gradient a woman is the worse it is you just want me to accept what you believe though without any concern of what my view may be.
> For me dominant behavior is a gradient and starts with light degrees of taking charge of a situation
Yeah until it leads to you getting off to something else. Something like this isnt the full story, it usually goes deeper or will go deeper in the future.

I dont care at this point if ti comes off as distrsuting or you dont want to talk to me, say whatever you want or say nothing, it doesn't matter.
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>>29746130
The whole concept of aftercare is crude and perverted.

I wouldnt want a girl who liked being treated like shit part of the time then i have to give her extra attention after care. I'd rather just have a girl who liked being treated nicely all the time.
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>>29746183
Yes but not everybody gets into a relationship with someone with all the same preferences to begin with. Understanding of the other persons needs and desires and not just your own is key.
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>>29746494
But what he said is pretty true, if she lets you (and only you) abuse her and likes it, you can feel the strongest connection. But being good to her besides that is important to not fuck her up.
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>>29746423

>I don't get it. You all want them to be subs outside the bedroom.

They are subs outside the bedroom. If a dominant man shows himself, they submit to him, in public as well as private life.
Hitler won more female votes than male ones, women convert to Islam more than men do. Women can be 'carried' this way somewhat more easily than men can.
A lot of cults (People's Temple springs to mind) draw in young guys with housebroken females puppeteered by the Jim Jones knock-off.

I digress. Most robots don't want women to be subs or doms it seems.
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>>29746494
>nice guy
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>>29746532

Carrot and stick my man. Hot and cold.
Cults do that shit too. Deserved abuse and then lots of loam and affectation.
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>>29746494
wanting aftercare is just how you tell the daddy issues from the actual sluts
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I'm a virgin but I think I would actually prefer to be in control.. I don't mean hardcore femdom, just not being the passive part.
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>>29746568
Yes, I know it is cruel and treating your so like that sounds wrong but I strongly believe its the best way to treat your girl and keep her.
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>>29746570
I've never heard of aftercare until this thread.

You niggas are trying to tell me there are girls, that you know, that liked the piss taken out of them in the bedroom and need extra attention afterward? What a world!
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>>29746582
Don't people touch each other during sex
The only way to be passive is to lay there with your hands at your sides
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>>29746251
>what? no. you're fucking ignorant as shi

I dont see why youre so mad at me. Its my preference to not have a girl with a filfthy mind.

> do you judge people based on singular thoughts?

yes, everybody does this. tell certain girls youre pro abortion but you think its wrong after a certain amount of time and she will instantly judge you on it.

Everything you desrcribed after that about not giving in and never letting him take it or whatever describes your own personal fantasy and desires. It just seems like a lot of work to me, I just want a normal girl who likes normal sex and cute stuff.

>she can secretly like it but also hate it at the same time

Not my problem or my preference.

>depends on where she is in life / who she is talking to / what's going on. infinite # of factors here.

Not my problem or my preference

> bc she's also autist so

pls be my gf
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>>29746524
>Understanding of the other persons needs and desires and not just your own is key.

Yeah ... IF you're with someone who doesn't like the same things as you.
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>>29744639
How can I respect woman and dominate and humiliate her duting sex? That's just absurd
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the level of virgin autism in this thread is hilarioius
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>>29746357
>IS healthy and normal.
Normal yes. Healthy no. I think OP meant normal sex as in regular positions.
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>>29746592
Yes and every single one of them has daddy issues. I had a FWB who would let me do literally anything to her, she never needed me to coddle her like a 5 year old after, she would go into the bathroom and cleanup if she wasn't staying over and that was that. She was a true unashamed slut who just loved having sex.
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>>29746406
>i think everyone on 4chan / r9k would be happy if we all stopped hating and used our desperate self-loathing virgin selfs for a beautiful legendary orgy where we let go of all ignorance and misinformed judgement

Disgusting. I don't want to be your gf anymore. I take it back.
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>>29746494
Ever notice how when you sit around doing nothing all day it gets dull eventually?
But when you got outside for a whole day it feels amazing to come back home
Essentially, abuse and aftercare works the same way, you have some bad to further the enjoyment of the good
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>>29744639
I'd like my girlfriend to be equal to me in every way possible. Yet many still demand man to take the initiative and make decisions, while being 'feminist' at the same time. Women wtf...
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>>29746697
This discussion is mostly about sex. And why would you ever want a girl that is equal to you when it comes to sex?
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>>29746590

I agree entirely. It is the best way to keep your girl, its also the way most girls want to be kept. They don't want Chad Thundercock, they want Jim fucking Jones.

You control her, and thus play into her fantasy of surrender, or whatever it is she's about its all variations on a theme - the joke is that you are actually in control of her whether it plays into her 'fantasy' or not, the fantasy is itself a coping mechanism.

Your job is to slip beneath the radar and make sure there is never a kool-aid moment when she realises she's been jonestowned, and has to decide anything, you have to take even that decision out of her hands.
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>>29746532
>if she lets you (and only you) abuse her and likes it
I dont want that

> you can feel the strongest connection

Not for me if i feel disgusted by it obviously.
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>>29746736
But why? Cant understand how a man wouldnt want his girl to be submissive and obedient to him?
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>>29746154
OP wants to be dominated. OP denies women their natural tendencies because then he won't have a girl take a big fat steaming shit in his mouth. OP is salty for not getting dressed up like a little sissy whore by his dominatrix and pissed on by all her girlfriends.

/thread
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>>29746748

Birds of a feather flock together fram.
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>>29746748
What is conveyed here is that you want to be told what to do. And it's no more or less "wrong" than when a guy complains that a girl is lazy in bed.

You're just different, you're not special for liking futa or caging or whatever the fuck.
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>>29746611
>who doesn't like the same things as you.
Yes but you like them. Not the things they do in the bedroom you dumbfuck. Thats what liking a person is all about but you normies are animals and focus so much on sex and not everything that comprises of the person. When the person says they like dominance and submission it says a lot about them compared to just wanting normal sex.
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>>29746718
because it's about men dominating women
and what's wrong with a girlfriend being equal and having sex with her?
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>>29746765

We all knew that already OP. No need to samefag your own shit.
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>>29746696
No you're just a whore.
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>>29746682
>FWB

disposed of
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>>29746718
Not the same guy but why would I want a girl who allows herself to be degraded for asshole men instead of being a strong independent woman who doesnt take shit treatment.
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>>29746788
I get that but it is even better when you happen to like the same things instead of settling for what you got. This is like hearing a lesbian explain why they like strap ons but not real penis.
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>>29746811
Not at all, I just really like it when she gets all cuddly and affectionate after I've treated her like shit
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>>29746682

You say you loved sex?
You love being hated for the act.
The more desperate the [...] details
The fatter the payback.
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>>29746748
>Cant understand how a man wouldnt want his girl to be submissive and obedient to him?

Its just shows a fucked up mindset to me. The mind is the most attractive thing to me outside of physical looks. That and its a huge warning sign of a girl who isn't worth keeping to me. A girl who likes submission is likely to leave you when boisterous asshole just comes along and roleplays as a huge asshole and plays the game. I don't want a girl I have to treat badly and manipulate, I dont want to compete with other assholes and be fake and act like a dick. I just want a girl I can do normal things with and not have to worry about. You're a dumb woman though and only care about your own needs and never even considered that a man has needs too and theyre not all the same.
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>>29746765
>OP wants to be dominated
No i don't I just want a regular no pressure relationship. Something easy and not with these powerplays involved.

>OP denies women their natural tendencies
No im looking for a girl without these tendencies.

>>29746801
Not samefagging
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This thread is making my blood pressure shoot up.
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ive been with submissive girls and it was fucking nice but they all have self esteem issues holy fuck
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>>29744639
So....like....
Just give her head.
Do it better than anyone else.
Make her cum a million times more than she makes you. That's the secret.

And that's it.

Girls who want to be dominated have problems...
But guys who feel the need to dominate ARE the problem.
It's an ego thing.

Love yourself.
Love making her cum.

Not a Chad, here...have had around sixty partners.
The sex always gets better as I've learned that giving head is BASICALLY the most important thing in a relationship.
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>>29746838
>but it is even better when you happen to like the same things instead of settling for what you got
Your word choice of settling is just wrong. You're focusing on sex and finding the ideal partner with a strong emphasis on sex. You can't imagine that a person cares about the person as a whole beyond sex because you're a whore and you probably will associate with trashy "dominate" men who are just males who lack any self awareness or higher morality, the DUDE PUSSY! LMAO type of guys. This is the whole reasoning behind not wanting a girl who wants to be dominated and submissive.
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>>29746857
DUDE PUSSY LOL DUDE AFTERCARE AM I RIGHT?
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>>29746984

>No im looking for a girl without these tendencies.

You're asking for a woman with a male mind. This is why the ancient Greeks invented the (virgin) goddess Athena - to convince a woman-hating bunch of ripped dudes into buggery thuggery that women were not a lost cause.
Even Shitcanhauer had his little exception.

There will never be such women unless we set up concentration camps to toughen them up, and even if we did, we'd be as well going in ourselves for the same - we're much too flabby. Even to be discussing this is evidence that we need some Kz time.

Keep chasing that dream though, there are millions at your back and sides. Good luck.
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>>29746532
this is hot

and in the other way, it is also rare and beautiful that a girl can save all of herself and treasure what she has - but reserve it and wait for this mystical + mythical person.

i love you for articulating that so eloquently <3

it's really a waste of time and effort to be arguing with these twats. there are so many levels / degrees to this - people who carry over D/s to outside of the bedroom, people who switch, girls who like to be dominated but would fight back and bitch out any guy who says hi to her, guys who can assume a 'villain' or 'dom' role but are corny as shit and ruin everything (so she would never go to him despite him being a self-proclaimed Dom), etc etc.

a gray spectrum doesn't deserve a black/white analysis

>>29746688
i would never want you as my anything because you're a filthy and whiny vanilla bitch

also i'm not a lesbian
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>>29746992
Why is that Roastie? I bet your flaps are flaring right now lol
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>>29747017
DUDE PUSSY LOL

MARRY THAT SLUT AM I RIGHT

JUST HAVE TO GIVE THAT SLUT THE OL LICKEROO DUDE LOL

THEN SHES ALL YOURS TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN
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>>29747054
>You're asking for a woman with a male mind.
No i'm looking for a girl who was raised properly and not tainted by the woes of modern society. If she was raised properly then there would be no problem but these women are hard to find and they usallly marry early or have long term relationships.

> This is why the ancient Greeks invented the (virgin) goddess Athena

And what about Zeus? How many men were Zeus like? You're doing a false comparison. Athena was Athena, theyre god and mythology embodied with the ideals of humanity. You some how took this and made it misogynistic though. Good women exists, I've met them on numerous occasions. Good men exist, i've met them too. The good people are in the minority though.
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>>29747060
DUDE DOMINATE ME HAHAH ILL PRETEND TO RESIST LOL
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>>29747060
>ecause you're a filthy and whiny vanilla bitch
Technically you're the vanilla one in wanting something that is so common as dominance.

You're the one who is not good enough for me.

>whiny

Except if I was agreeing with you and saying I like to dominate you wouldnt call me whiny you would say I'm sure of myself and a guy who knows what he wants. Perspective hun.

>also i'm not a lesbian
I'm a straight male.
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>>29747221
it's not pretend tho XDD

>>29746604
comparing sexual / romantic affiliations (which have many factors involved) vs. a yes or no 2-choice abortion topic is fucking idiocy. hence u

ITT we have ok-cupid faggots with a checklist and 0 experience IRL who have dumbed down all human dynamics to BDSM = SLUTDOM and MUH ZETA UPRISING IS MORAL RIGHTEOUSNESS

roflmaaoaosdfajsdl;fkjas;dlfjkahahahahaha

PLEASE
STOP

i'm laughing so hard tbqfh how sheltered all of you are. vanilla guys are the worst and i won't even bother dating them (unless i feel like settling down for a shit life) because they are boring as fuck. top40 weezer type of faggots. the "CAN I ASK UR PERMISSION TO HOLD UR HAND" type of bitchboys u feel? ^^

those are the type of boys that can't carry a conversation. there's no spark. you're boring. you can't ever lead a lady. you don't know how to make her heart pound and think *inserting dick* = *heavenly femme pleasure* lmfaoo

fuck off with your textbook ideologies and leddit circlejerk

good luck finding your ideal wifey and enjoy humdrum, lifeless sex

itt virgins who think oral = edgy roflmao
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>>29747203

>No i'm looking for a girl who was raised properly and not tainted by the woes of modern society

So you want a 'sub'?
Mate, you're just regurgitating shit, I should have known better than to address you directly.

>And what about Zeus? How many men were Zeus like?

Hundreds of thousands. Zeus was the ideal head of the family. Greek society was tribe based, and every tribe, down to the smallest family unit, had its head. A good patriarch acted in a Zeus-like way, hence why Zeus is always an older man.

>You're doing a false comparison. Athena was Athena, theyre god and mythology embodied with the ideals of humanity.

Nah, I'm not. Greeks believed things about women that would not be out of place on /r9k/, and at rock bottom, for similar reasons.
Aristotle hated them, hence his exclusive pederasty.

>You somehow took this and made it misogynistic

Athena was not born of a woman, but out of her father, Zeus. She emerged through his heda, the seat of Wisdom and Reason, of which she was the goddess.
She's literally a woman born out of the mind of a middle-aged man - she is female but embodies masculine virtues.
You say 'god, myth and human ideals' as though these things had no substance.

>Good women exist

I don't trust you to decide who is good and who isn't, you sound like a dull cunt to be honest.
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>>29747360

>it's not pretend tho XDD

Yes it is, its a simulation.

You are so clearly butthurt that its absurd. Its actually funny seeing a grill lose their shit on /r9k/, most of you either bail out when your bum bums tear, or double down on 'eye-rolling snark' and bear it out for the sake of pride.
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>>29747360
>it's not pretend tho XDD
DUDE VAGINA TINGLES LOL

THATS ALL THAT MATTERS IN LIFE AND IN A PARTNER AM I RIGHT LOL

VAGINA TINGLES OMGGGGG
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also it's funny how people think "being dominant" is simply something you can turn on. girls who are naturally submissive can see through a facade and can sense when guys are simply /acting/ dominant so that they can have access to a broader range of pussy let alone get pussy in general.

>im a boy virgin
>i heard on reddit girls like being dominated
>let me try to exert myself and b in control
>ensue facade
>true sub sees he isn't about it and his words lack meaning and laughs off into the distance bc true doms aren't about that bullshit

>you'll never win her or get her or get near her

do you really think just bc a girl is into bdsm / is submissive at heart, she's just going to applaud and bow down to a guy who "likes to dominate"!?!?!?!?! AHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKING KILL MEEEEEEE WHYYYY ARE YOU EVEN ON THIS FUCKING PLANET lmfao

literally virgins who prob think katy perry is edgy for them and their deep dark fetish rofl cringe
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>>29747031
>You're focusing on sex and finding the ideal partner with a strong emphasis on sex. You can't imagine that a person cares about the person as a whole beyond sex because you're a whore and you probably will associate with trashy "dominate" men who are just males who lack any self awareness or higher morality, the DUDE PUSSY! LMAO type of guys.

You're a fucking hipster numale. That's not hot to me either.
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>>29747042
Actual 0/10 bait
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>>29747392
how am i butthurt? all i have to do is pick/choose while you're sitting in the basement raging at how females are the bane of all existence bc of their sluthood (which is all in your mind btw) (s/o to your black and white binoculars)

if anything i truly thank you for making me laugh this morning - god bless your untouchable + undateable gollum soul <3
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>>29747406

Pretty much everyone in this thread agrees with you.
You are not 'being submissive', you just generally are. But people who don't want to dominate and control you appall you.

That's why you are repulsive, you are a crawler looking for an anus to rim, while you spit bile at everyone who thinks you could be more, whether they want to fuck you or not.
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>>29744639
I love dominating women, Anon, I'm a sexual sadist, and in reality, I think you're disgusting for not being fucking dominant in bed or in your relationship.
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>>29747464

You are pounding out blocks of frantic text.
Nobody in my country has a basement except for richfags.
I don't think females are the bane of anyone's existence besides themselves.

Not a virgin either.
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>>29747406
You can assume a role that's different from who you really are. Look at many performers that are actually much shyer in their personal lives.

But sure, your average beta lord can't all of a sudden act confident just because of having read 3 posts on a PUA forum. It takes experience either way.
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>>29747360
>comparing sexual / romantic affiliations (which have many factors involved)

Is she a woman who is responsible with sex and emotions that are involved with sex or not.

Its that easy. The more somone goes into the dominance and submissive spectrum the more that becomes not true for me. I just want a regular girl who wants regular sex, why can't you see that some people have that as a preference?

>with a checklist and
I just want a girl who wants a normal healthy bf and gf relationship

> and 0 experience IRL
I have had sex before and expereince.

> who have dumbed down all human dynamics to BDSM = SLUTDOM

Pretty accurate. Im not saying all girls who like BDSM are bad whores. Its just a huge warning sign, kind of like how oyu think guys with 0 experience is a warning sign and something to point out.

>vanilla guys are the worst and i won't even bother dating them
They dont want you either so why get so mad about it?

> the "CAN I ASK UR PERMISSION TO HOLD UR HAND" type of bitchboys u feel? ^^

A virgin girl would love if a guy asks that. You cant see how roleplaying as a docile non whore female is attractive to a male and you never had to adjust yourself to what a male likes because you get male attention anyways. So i dont expect you to understand this concept.

>those are the type of boys that can't carry a conversation
No correlation whatsoever

>. there's no spark.
Because youre a whore

>you're boring. you can't ever lead a lady
Youre needy and I want a lady who can lead herself.

>you don't know how to make her heart pound and think *inserting dick* = *heavenly femme pleasure* lmfaoo

If shes a virgin or still a pure good girl her heart will pound. I have a girl who just graduated highschool and is 18 like this right now that i'm talking to.
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>>29745026
>butthurt tumblr-infected landwhale roastie detected
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>>29747619

12 year old boy/balkan slav detected

its sarcasm, radko.
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>>29747469
>people who don't want to dominate and control you appall you

no it's more like their mentality and perception in how they view the world

stop victimizing yourself ffs

i'm not dr phil so gonna dip out lmao maybe you need to consult your fucking older brothers / sisters / therapists / people who have sexual deviations. go on fetlife and explore group names or some shit

can't with these unironically fedora wearing katana wielding faggots
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>>29747360
>*inserting dick* = *heavenly femme pleasure*

can you tell me what heavenly femme pleasure entails? I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm legitimately just curious.
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>>29747366
>So you want a 'sub'?
What no. Subs are almost exclusively degenerates. I want a non degenerate girl. I wouldnt care if shes sub if she was non degenerate because her being a good person is whats important. The whole not liking submissive women is more of a huge warning sign than anything, if shes int othe real degrading stuff then nope the fuck out of there. A non degenerate woman though would never be into that.

>Hundreds of thousands. Zeus was the ideal head of the family

Exaggerated numbers, maybe tens of thousands were pure good men similar to Zeus, but hundreds of thousands were criminal scumbags, rapists, drunks so on. The same amount of women tens of thousands would be like Athena virtuous and feminine too while hundreds of thousands wouldnt be like her.

>Greeks believed things about women that would not be out of place on /r9k/, and at rock bottom, for similar reasons.

Because it was a misogynistic patriarchal society. When did they ever self examine men and how terrible the average man was in the same manner they did women? They really didnt if you consider that the philosophy of the time detached persecution of the mans flaws and saw it more as a struggle with morality. Compared to women where they emobdied the negative aspects into womens ownership of their human flaws almost as the curse of being female while men it was seen as struggle between right and wrong.

>Athena was not born of a woman, but out of her father, Zeus.

Youre using the concept of Athena to be misogynistic is the point.

>I don't trust you to decide who is good and who isn't,
I dont trust you to tell me who is bad and why. Except in my case I happen to be right about you and you're wrong about me.
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>>29745292
> Women are raised to be pure and chaste (aka socially respected and won't give into carnal vices).

> Being his sex slave (property of a male), is my way of rebelling against society. (fuck you I want to be a cum dumpster because you wisely told me not to.)

My brain hurts.
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>>29747548
>A virgin girl would love if a guy asks that.


ITT people who have never spoken to a girl claim to know what a girl wants / likes / thinks inside roflmao ok

bc all virgin girls want the same things? like the same traits in men? are all virgin boys into foot fetishes and scat and gore and fucking the shit out of traps?

there you go

please stop being a sheltered 10 year old dweeb and examine thyself

>introspection
>911 SOS
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>>29744639
For whatever reason, I never really associated two people having sex with having "dominant" and "submissive" roles unless they was heavily implied. It's certainly possible for lovemaking to be that equal, though.
I'd get really bored with a person always taking one route or the other and never deviating from whatever their definition of "dominant" or "submissive" is. Plus, anyone who was submissive to the point of wanting to be constantly manhandled or dominant to the point of controlling every sexual situation would weird me out.
Is this an abstract feel just for me?
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>>29747650

>victimizing yourself ffs

I'm not a victim of anyone. You're acting like I have some moral problem with what you are doing.
All I say is that I could not respect you, and I would consider stopping you from voting, because its harmful to allow people who don't want to control their own bodies to decide what other people do with theirs.

Also you're not 'exploring'. Lots of people have done and do what you do. Are teens exploring when they go on their first piss-up? It seems new to them, but its common enough to be called mechanical.

>can't even

I got trolled.
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>>29747360
Stop responding to this fucking obvious troll you dumb niggers
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>>29747548
the trolling is so fucking real lmao

i didn't live until 2016 to be arguing with someone who presents the worst logical fallacies in each and every sentence he hammers into his crusty keyboard

you truly need help

please get back on your abilify

i don't think anyone's going to read that wall of text so please rot here until you find some human solace you so desperately seem to want
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>>29747713
>ITT people who have never spoken to a girl claim to know what a girl wants / likes / thinks inside roflmao ok

I do know, theres a clear difference between the desires of a virgin girl and the town whore who has taken 30+ dicks. One is going to want dominate males to do disgusting shit to them, and the other is not, and its not the virgin female who wants gangbangs as her next sexual experience seeing that its her first.

Virgin and non whore women still want sweet kind guys in large. Sure there are those who are born sluts who want as much dick as possible as fast as possible, but if she gets to the age of 18, 19 20 and still a virgin out of all those other girls then most likely she's the one to keep or at least date if you want a serious relationship.
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>>29747719
No you're a normal functional person in a thread filled with daddy issue whores and beta white knights
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>>29747822

You are a eunuch, mate.
Cut your own balls off and save humanity from your milquetoast kind.

'Eeeweeeweeweeweeewee' is what your post says, it squeals out at the reader.
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>>29747806
Thats a funny way of saying im right and you have no argument against it
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>>29747848
Why does me liking virgins and girls with low sex count disturb you so much? You have a preference for dominance, I have a preference for purity. We both think the other ones preference is disgusting. We're not any different.
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>>29747888

Nah, you have me wrong. I don't have a preference for dominance and I don't think your preference is disgusting. I think that your emotions are flabby and saccharine and easily exploited, and that you are setting yourself up for failure.
Purity generates its opposite, purity loves to be corrupted. Cut your balls off, Ioannes, its the only way.
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>>29747971
You deny what is it right in front of you. Your preference is dominance, you say it in your follow up sentence in the same post. "i think that your emotions are flabby and saccharine". This just tells me your preference is dominance and you deject as in you push away, ignore, reject non dominate males in the same way i deject and ignore overly slutty females. We're not so different like I said.

>Purity generates its opposite, purity loves to be corrupted. Cut your balls off, Ioannes, its the only way.

Im not a corrupting person, the girl i'm with right now I nurture her and foster a healthy positive relationship. And if she happens to become corrupted I can leave her and find a new one, just like if you find someone who turns out to be flabby and saccharine you will find a new one.
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>>29745090

This is only true for men. If you're isolated for too long with no sexual intimacy, you turn to harder and harder things to masturbate to.

One day you're jerking off to regular porn and the next you're looking for gay furry cock vore to get your kicks.
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>>29744639
i wanna be choked and pissed on and fucked furiously and have my ass smacked hard and get called degrading names.
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>>29748126
most gay men do
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>>29748152
im not gay. im a bi female.
i also only get off to hardcore gangbang porn.
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>>29744639
sounds like another incompetent virgin who can't please a woman and needs her to lead you through it

just let Chad fuck her then losers
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I like to dominated by women. The thought of it is so hot
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>>29748126
and I want to fuck off
omg bby yeah bby love it when you hit the escape button
mmm bby you got me so hard when you disconnect mmmmmmm
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>>29748230
>sounds like another incompetent virgin who can't please a woman and needs her to lead you through it

Why would i want to please woman who likes to be dominated? I have no problem pleasing a woman with normal healthy sexual interests. No point in pleasing a woman that I get nothing out of though.
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>>29748193
of course you are and I'm a green ogre that lives in a swamp

>>29748230
Take your shitty bait out of here nigger
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>>29748059

I don't have to prefer dominance to think you are flabby and saccharine. I just have to have some respect for you that is offended by seeing you make such an arse of yourself.
I don't 'push away' non-dominate males. I don't understand how you can call yourself 'non-dominant' as opposed to submissive, and then try to put words in my mouth insinuating I want to dominate you.

>I'm not a corrupting person

I don't doubt it, but you know that people can 'corrupt' themselves, yes?

You have a sick whore's mind by the way, to think that you can just drop people and pick up new ones when it pleases you. Not your fault, lots of people are sick whores now, its why they are so miserable.
Sorry for calling you saccharine, you are as false as the girls you fantasise about.
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>>29744639
>tfw you realize girls want this and you're just the dumb guy who's nice to them

no wonder i'm alone

best case scenario, some girl buys into the narrative that it's abusive or disrespectful to women or something after years of doing this and settles for boring, old me.
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>>29744783
>tfw no gf who will furiously masturbate while you piss on her
Fuck I didn't know I'd get this turned on from these excerpts.
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>>29748304
>I don't have to prefer dominance to think you are flabby and saccharine

This encapsulates everything about you though, it says so much! Who are we kidding here? Certainly not me. You merely don't like admitting your preference for dominance.

> I just have to have some respect for you that is offended by seeing you make such an arse of yourself.

Excuses you tell yourself to hide your nature and the fact that you don't like non dominate men and don't like men who don't agree with your interests.

>I don't understand how you can call yourself 'non-dominant' as opposed to submissive,

Because i am not submissive. I just have 0 desire to dominate others. I want people to be my equal.

>words in my mouthinsinuating I want to dominate you.
Never happened

> but you know that people can 'corrupt' themselves, yes?
Obviously but its possible for this not to happen especially if they have someone mentor them into being a good person before it happens. This could be family members or a partner or both or it could come naturally from the person on their own.

>You have a sick whore's mind by the way, to think that you can just drop people and pick up new ones when it pleases you.

I probably do. I was forced into having this mind set though and I dont see it changing.

>Sorry for calling you saccharine, you are as false as the girls you fantasise about.

I never claimed to be a good guy, I like to think I am but I'm probably not. I'm just looking out for whats best for me now even if that means rejecting people less coyly then you do for not being dominate. I do it with pure judgment, and if thats wrong then so be it.
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>>29744639
I kind of look at this way: Could you respect a submissive man? Like if you had a friend or coworker who submitted to you and just kind of let you do whatever, would you respect them? If he spoke of himself as being less than you?

I feel like most guys wouldnt.
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>>29744639
Nah women should crave my seed.
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>>29748594
So are you saying you do like submissive girls or you dont? It could be taken as either way from what you said.

Me personally I don't think lower of girls who are submissive I just see it as a huge warning flag and probably not the kind of relationship I'm looking for.
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Fucking insecure cucks in this thread.

I used to exclusively fantasize about being dominated by a girl until my test levels rose and I am now a switch who will happily fuck a submissive girl or let her dom, I don't care because I'm a real man
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>>29748788
>Fucking insecure cucks in this thread.

>"All these cucks wanting virgin and not slut girls, disgusting cucks!"
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>>29748594
>implying subs are submissive in normal daily life to everyone they meet or have low self esteem

nope


that's not how it works
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>>29744639
Women don't like being submissive.
Women like being liked by men.
Men like dominating women.
To please men, women like being submissive.
I'm sure that after thousands of years of this that perhaps there is now something biological about it, but that could easily be overcome if the culture shifted. If men preferes dominant, powerful women, then women's sexual preferences would shift accordingly
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>>29744639
No I can't respect them. I wish I could rape them, bc isn't that what they enjoy in fact? I only actually respect a woman if she's femenine but at the same time demands respect herself.
If I had gf/wife I would like her to be sub to me but if she is to other males as well then she's just a slut.
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>>29748957

this.

women of history who submitted to invaders and let themselves be raped were the ones who got to pass on their genes
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>>29749048
>let themselves be raped
Do you know how dumb you sound
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>>29749067

>not running away means you consent

Do you know how dumb you sound
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>>29748957
>>29749048
You are both retarded. I never liked making women be sexually submissive but I've had requests so I did it. When I tried that on others they absolutely loved it. I just had a girl text me this week who is married and cheating on her husband. She said 'none of them toss me around like a rag doll the way you did'. She also isn't the only example
>roasties gonna roast
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