Why did feminism have to destroy this?
It didn't. You can still have that. Just find a lady willing.
>tfw grew up in and currently have nuclear family
>we even all pack up and have dinner with grandma each Sunday
Traditionalism is comfy as fuck.
Because 99% percent of Feminists cannot form one because of looks/retardation/whatever and if they can't have it, no one can.
>>29726544
Yeah, but only for white people.
>Feminists
>Having any power in society at all
Feminists are useful idiots for the billionaire globalists (Illuminati/jews/bankers/ect) who want to advance cultural marxism in first world societies.
Their BS only gets anywhere because powerful, rich people back them
>>29726544
>be 28 and fast approaching wizardry
>see OP image
>single tear forms in corner of eye
Well thanks for that OP
>>29726544
>>29726544
economics
It's no longer possible because one man working can't support an entire family. Also automation basically eliminated 90% of domestic duties
>>29726544
There's no reason you can't have it with feminism too.
Plenty of feminists still choose to be a housewife and raise children. There are women who base their careers around the ability to work from home so they can raise their children better while still making an impact on society.
>>29726686
>who want to advance cultural marxism in first world societies
I want to be redpilled, why are they doing this? I know money, but what is the big plan? What really IS cultural marxism and what will it accomplish for them that gives them more money?
>>29726544
>Taditional family
It's a constantly burning garbage fire pf fucking arguments. Fuck that shit
>>29726879
Cultural Marxism is a cultural movement that was created to make people conform to whatever the cultural Marxist say. Its a decentralized form of authoritarianism, but the narrative is really crafted by the elite through funding of social movement organizations such as BLM LGBT and feminism. So the decentralized aspect is really just an illusion.
Its a really easy way to ease the west into an authoritarian system. You should be able to easily see how less free we are today compared to 20 years ago.
>>29726978
Enlightening. A lot of these points align with my own world view. Any other thoughts on the subject? Is there any hope? Theoretically, what could save us?
>>29726978
>>29726879
putting it simply it allows rich people to make us into slaves.
>>29727031
Nationalism will slow them down. It's harder to control the world if each nation controls their own leaders. The web is too complex to ever unravel though.
My hope is that the rulers are actually moral, but realize that the measures they want to take would be unpopular so they keep it secret. My guess for the future is we will see a secret Manhattan style project around AI in the next 10 years. Whoever creates and controls the first true general AI can control the world completely and no one can realistically compete. At that point we just have to hope that they are nice to us.
>>29726879
>what is the big plan?
The end goal is a one world government that controls multicultural societies with massive wealth gaps, like Dubai. Why multiculti? Because when you have a bunch of people who are the same race, with the same culture, the same history, the same religion, ect, it's harder to break them down and control them institutionally. Homogenous societies organize better, they can resist better through the media, law, government, and popular culture. They have more in common with one another and can recognize their own common interests more easily. It's harder to get them fighting with one another, to divide and conquer them.
>>29727047
Well said. It will be techno feudalism. They'll keep our quality of life just high enough that we don't break out in revolt, while keeping us distracted with consumer BS, and fighting with each other over artificially antagonized political and social tensions, like terrorism and racial conflict in the US.
>>29726761
It's an "Anon takes feminism at face value and inevitably ends up arguing semantics" episode.
>>29727031
>Theoretically, what could save us?
If we all got together, and worked our assess off to get the general public aware of key issues (like the TPP recently), or anything that Wikileaks brought to light, we could start taking apart large sections of their agenda through politics and law.
I mean, most people don't even know that this is happening. And/or they don't care. We're just little people. We all have jobs and lives to take care of. So breaking through with such a message, into the lives of ordinary people, with all this complex borderline conspiracy theory political stuff, is quite a challenge.
>>29727153
>>29727144
>>29727249
Why do you think it is that we're able to see this but so many aren't? What are the main smoke and mirrors sedating the public? Does our modern society draw parallels closer to Huxley's BNW or Orwell's 1984?
And how did you guys come to these realizations yourselves? Do you ever feel a sense of crushing hopelessness in the face of all this?
THE JEWS CREATED IT, THE JEWS DESTROYED IT.
>>29727284
>>29727284
>Why do you think it is that we're able to see this but so many aren't
The control web of money, media, and politics is simply not going to be able to wrap in 100% of people. Not yet. So there's just some people who are going to start catching on to certain things. They know that, and have made preparations. We're not all that much better than ordinary people; we're just in a position where we can consider information that most people either have zero interest in, or that conflicts with too many things they already believe about the world (i.e. many people believe that, while slightly corrupt, our governments for the most part are honest institutions that really serve ordinary people. i.e. Systemic conspiracy theories are just whacky nonsense cooked up by weirdos who have mental problems. ect ect)
So be careful of leaders in the conspiracy related communities who encourage hysteria and conflict. Pic very related. This is an example of one of their preparations for us.
>And how did you guys come to these realizations yourselves?
I was trying to download porn on limewire in 2005. Some based dude was posting 9/11 conspiracy documentaries with porn titles. I downloaded one, and at first I was rolling my eyes, but I sat through a few minutes, and picked up, from the tone, that the people who made this were very serious, and had a message they were very sincere and honest about wanting me to hear. It was well made. That's how I got into this. Here's that documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzXd_etk7Q4
>Do you ever feel a sense of crushing hopelessness in the face of all this?
I'm usually more concerned with the fact that I'm a shut in NEET loser who spends all day every day posting on 4chan and watching porn. Conspiracy or no conspiracy, if I don't get my own shit together I'm fucked.
>>29727284
Not the anons you were responding to but I'll try to answer as best as I can.
>Why do you think it is that we're able to see this but so many aren't?
A combination of political apathy and political illiteracy.
Aside from a few trivial differences, the average normie wouldn't be able to explain the difference between a modern conservative and a modern liberal. Most will rarely tune into the news, or skim through headlines of Facebook, and base their political views off from that. They'll settle with "Dude fuck the government they're all the same lmao" and go on with their lives, because they don't really care.
That in conjunction with the ideological subversion of the west (See Yuri Bezmenov's interviews, & Cultural Marxism's takeover of academia), has effectively hamstrung the west. When we get a minority of the populace into political activism nowadays, it's for some nonsense like Black Lives Matter. Why? Because the very few people who care about politics have been pumped full of Marxist propaganda since grade school.
>Does our modern society draw parallels closer to Huxley's BNW or Orwell's 1984?
A combination of both; however, I've always argued that we're far closer to Huxley's Brave New World, to the extent that 1984 seems preferable.
>And how did you guys come to these realizations yourselves?
I never really bought into the Marxist indoctrination during school. The acceptance of racial egalitarianism was never something that sat well with me. I didn't flat-out hate minority groups, but it was pretty clear that we weren't all the same. That and being contrarian enough to read anti-establishment books helped me quite a bit.
>Do you ever feel a sense of crushing hopelessness in the face of all this?
No; actually, I'm cautiously optimistic. Brexit has set globalism back decades, Trump is ripping the Overton Window to the right, and across the Western World, the "Far Right" is getting stronger every day. There's a good deal of hope.
>>29727455
>have made preparations
What preparations do you mean? Or if you don't mean any, what do you imagine they have prepared for us?
>>29727527
> Marxist indoctrination
Can you give me some examples of how they did that? What were some major points they wanted us to swallow? I'm reflecting back to my school years and starting to see something.
> Brexit has set globalism back decades, Trump is ripping the Overton Window to the right, and across the Western World, the "Far Right" is getting stronger every day. There's a good deal of hope.
Can you elaborate on this? I thought the royal family were neck deep in the pockets of the globalists? Also, isn't Trump, as part of the wealthy elite who created these illusory chains around us in the first place?
Why do you all act like a traditional family is something to strive for? that shit looks boring and shitty as fuck. I dont wanna have to deal with some shitty kids shitting their pants and a wife who money-cucks me who i have to work full time to support while she stays home and takes care of this shitty suburban prison ive signed myself up for. fuuuuckkkk thattt bros wtf is wrong with you guys
>let's destroy the only race that protects Israel!
Suuuuure, tinfoil alt right fedoras should go fuck off back to /pol/
>>29726879
Cultural Marxism isa meme
>>29726544
Cus daddy had to go fight a useless, richman's war.
Mommy had to find how to feed the kids. She got a job.
She liked making money.
If and when daddy came back, abused by the horrors of war, his old wife is no more.
>>29726544
something like 86% of americans don't even identify as feminists, and it's even lower in european countries.
you live in a basement and never talk to people in the real world anyway though so how would you know.
you wouldn't have had a traditional family back then, either.
>>29727664
>Can you give me some examples of how they did that? What were some major points they wanted us to swallow?
I remember history courses being a major offender.
Most of grade school history was early American, with a special emphasis on "Whitey fucks over the Natives," & "Black history."
Of course, they completely ignored the less-than-savory black activists, and demonized whites. Native/White cooperation and friendship as well as Native hostility towards amicable colonists was never touched upon.
Middle School and High School were big on the Holocaust. I remember most of my history classrooms (at least three separate ones) having a picture of that Hitler quote "If you tell a lie big enough..." obviously, the implication is that Hitler was a liar. I did a book analysis on "Mein Kampf" for AP European History in Junior year, it turns out that Hitler was referring to what he saw as Jewish lies when saying that. I had to wonder, if Hitler was as bad as they say, why take something out of context to use as ammo against him?
English classes were also pretty big offenders. We read Twain constantly, and our only choice for literary criticisms were "Marxist" or "Feminist."
Basically the premise of radical egalitarianism as well as the false narrative that all national, racial or group consciousness is an inherent evil.
1/2
You will never create one so why care?
>>29727816
they're not trying to destroy the west they are trying to control it. Also there are lots of jewish rulers, but thats mostly due to the fact that they are the racial group with the highest iq. The jewish cabal is mostly memes.
>>29728033
I have to say, I went through the exact same thing growing up. Where are you from, and how old are you? Public school systems are scary in a way I never considered
>>29726617
Pretty hard to be the sole provider these days. Pay isn't high enough because both spouses are expected to work these days. Feminism brought us this shit. As a result, both men and women are unhappy.
>>29727664
2/2
>Can you elaborate on this? I thought the royal family were neck deep in the pockets of the globalists? Also, isn't Trump, as part of the wealthy elite who created these illusory chains around us in the first place?
With regard to the Royal Family, yes and no. Historically there were ties and an on-again-off-again relationship between banks and the crown. Regardless of whether or not those are still in place, with the crown's diminished power (And I'm sure they are to a certain degree), you can't look as internationalists as a monolithic faction. The crown may be associated with one group of internationalists, but Soros-esque globalists were hoping for Remain.
Brexit has shown that common people, uniting behind populist politicians can overturn the will of the ultra-wealthy, the media, the banks, and the globalists. It kills any discussion of a North American Union (and there has been some discussion regarding that), and offers hope to EU member states hoping to secede (There's some demand from the Dutch, French, Poles and Czechs on that front).
Trump, on the other hand, is many things, but a Cultural Marxist/Globalist? No. Yes, he's wealthy, yes he's bought politicians; however, someone who became wealthy through Real Estate, TV and name licensing isn't going to be part of the same cabal as a Hedge Fund Manager, career politician, financier, or McCorporate Cosmopolitan.
Trump's just a narcissistic, bumbling billionaire with some genuine love towards his country. His hands might be a little dirty, but he's actually a good force to have in our corner.
>>29727816
Yes, there are no pro-Israel Jews who advocate "diversity," and "tolerance," in Western countries. There's certainly not a massive split within the Jewish community either, with a sizeable chunk being Marxist-leaning at all. No sir!
Go back to plebbit.
>>29727845
Yep, the Frankfurt School is a meme. Bezmenov and other KGB defectors are memes. CM as a criticism is a meme.
>>29728027
Yes, because skewed opinion polling accurately reflects the ideological foundations of our legislators, culture-makers, and narrative-shapers!
You're a fucking retard, anon.
>>29726544
I don't think feminismn caused this, I think the economic situation did. Higher cost of living, both parents need to work to bring home the bacon. Unless you make big bucks you can't fully support a family on your own
>>29728184
Well this has been eye opening. Thanks friends
>>29728218
No feminism DID cause this. It caused women to start working which caused the economy to go completely out of whack. This is why you can't just get any job anymore and be able to afford a brand new house and car and have it paid off in under a year.
>>29728217
leave your basement and stop jerking off to internet echochambers. please.
>>29728368
Wow, great response! It's like you fundamentally addressed the heart of my post and then dismantled the premise using logic and reason!
>>29728426
you know normies can't argue using reason. why are you even debating them? it's like beating up retarded kids during recess
>>29726544
Why cry after traditional ideals you yourself wouldn't be able to fill?
>>29728480
The average /r9k/ poster could, if they found motivation, go out, get educated, get a job, buy a house and serve as a somewhat masculine provider.
Whores can't unslut themselves.
Of course the average robot can't live up to those ideals now. Many don't have a reason to.
Why bother making half-assed critiques of traditionalism?
