Finally going to the depression doctor to get fixed. what kind of stuff should I tell him to get taken seriously?
Tell him you post me mes on 4chan
>>29695212
just be yourself
marjoram comment
>>29695212
>what kind of stuff should I tell him to get taken seriously?
Probably serious stuff.
>anon walks into doctor's office
>"I'm depressed"
>doctor looks at anon with scowl
>"I don't believe you and I refuse to take your money for ongoing treatment of some meme disease that I just made up. Get outta here"
>>29695212
Tell us what is bothering you faggot op, I'm pretty sure most of us can tell you if you're going to be taken seriously or not
OP, just because you're bad with women doesn't mean you need to get neutered. Please think this through.
>>29695212
Doesn't matter, they're like wizards.
I went to one for depression and he figured out I have borderline personality disorder, along with the depression and anxiety I have.
>>29695212
The fuck is a depression doctor?
I got referred through a crisis hotline call on the bad end of a depressed spell (bipolar) so the doctor knew right away to look for it.
Just remember that you only hurt yourself by being dishonest. Tell the truth, be willing to do what they ask or you're wasting everybodies time.
And the doctor may talk to you like he thinks you're retarded, that's normal. They tend to have one setting and it clears up when you mention it.
>>29695339
Trust me, they keep secrets for a living. Tell them about any substance abuse, suicide attempts or serious plans for them, that kinda thing.
It's important and you won't be locked away unless you say you plan to do it soon or have self-harmed in a visible way. They're sneaky and will make excuses to see your arms.
>>29695212
Don't take SSRIs. Every drug and food type we ingest has the potential to set off a whole series of different chemical targets rather than just one. Take SSRIs, for example: they treat depression and anxiety by inhibiting the re-uptake of serotonin, but they also inhibit the distribution of testosterone. Drug companies regard the positive effects as the drug's intended purpose, and label anything else it does 'side effects'. Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect so bear this in mind when making your decision. There is also recent evidence to suggest that sometimes this dysfunction can prove to be permanent.
>>29695602
I could've had a treesome but I broke down crying because I couldn't get hard. Oh and even still I'm off that shit for over two years.. I still have difficulty cumming. Be careful op
>>29695602
On SSRIs currently, can confirm, the sexual dysfunction sucks. You adjust to it after a while and are able to feel something but no where near as intense. Haven't been off SSRIs yet so I can't testify how long it takes to go away
>>29695650
how long have you been taking them?
dick stopped working when i started taking them, but ~3 weeks later it went back to normal
>>29695695
A year now I think, if not, a bit longer. Yeah, same experience, dick essentially died, but after a month of so it worked, but a less exciting than before and the afterglow of sex was heavily reduced and still is for the most part. I reckon it'll be fine after like 3 weeks of not taking it. What about you?
Just don't fucking say you're depressed and think it's enough. Say what makes you depressed and how depression affects your life. It makes you uncomfortable as fuck to admit that you are limiting your own life, but it's the first step towards resolution. The doctor might even hook you up on social benefits like NEETBUX if you give enough info.
>>29695769
Sorry to break it to you man, but there is a chance that normal sensation will never return despite you not taking the stuff for decades even. Be careful about how you choose to proceed.
>>29695828
I certainly hope not. Is that your current experience?
You pretty much have to say you are suicidal or they won't take you seriously
They have 5 million clients already pretending to be suicidal just to receive treatment so you just got to fake it like them
>>29695769
I've been taking them for two months now. I'd say, right now it's the same as before I started taking SSRIs.
The worst side effect is probably the tremors.
>>29695339
I wanna go to the psychiatrist too.
Should I tell them I think that I'm a character from Naruto?
>>29695602
How can you draw the conclusion that SSRIs affect testosterone due to sexual dysfunction? It could be caused by a number of neurological changes. The experience of sex is not limited to testosterone only.
>>29695885
I did research on that, while it might seem it affects testosterone (due to the symptoms) it does not. The study involved measuring testosterone levels in patients taking SSRIs (go figure)
>>29695859
Nope. I noticed an immediate reduction in my libido so I stopped, and I am now thinking of sticking to benzos or maybe trying some of the anticonvulsants that also have anti-anxiety properties. Check this: http://rxisk.org/post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd-wikipedia-stumbles/
>>29695899
>benzos
Why the fuck would you do that?
>>29695899
Yeah I've seen that site, it seems a little cult like though. I've done quite a bit of research and while studies show it's possible it seems quite rare and often is resolved with time
>>29695868
Nah bad advice. You'll just be bunched into the large group of "suicide pretenders" and they will only give you some life-saving interventions (admit you to a psych ward, neuroleptics, ECT).
Best way is to be honest and be insightful. Really REALLY want to get better. Every doctor loves a patient who actively tries to improve his/her own situation, without getting in the way of modern medicine of course (e.g. self medicating with natural substances).
>>29695896
Of course it doesn't. Otherwise the biggest side effect would be gynaecomastia, infertility, shrinking balls and osteoporosis. Testosterone is not a meme-hormone for chain-fucking roasties.
Tell him you want to kill yourself.
>>29695885
>>29695896
>Although SSRIs are relatively selective for the serotonergic system, they affect other neurotransmitter systems as well (Table 2).7 For example, at high dosages paroxetine is believed to block norepinephrine reuptake, and it has a clinically significant anticholinergic effect. Also, sertraline is a potent reuptake inhibitor of dopamine.8 Therefore, our discussion will include these neurotransmitters.
>In their dual control model of male sexual response, Bancroft et al9 discuss the interplay between excitatory and inhibitory mechanisms at the central and peripheral levels. For example, they describe the role of norepinephrine mediation in the central arousal system via the disinhibition of dopaminergic and a possible testosterone mechanism. They also point to possible inhibition of central sexual arousal by neuropeptidergic and serotonergic mechanisms.
>>29695212
Don't self diagnose in front of the doctor, don't talk in medical terms if you are unsure about things. Don't act like you know all and you are smarter than doctor. I told my doctor about difficulties concentrating, hard time going out, getting up, no motivation, always tired, of n extremely upset. I told more because I had other problems. Also, don't let to be treated with medicine only. Ask for psychotherapist too or "someone to talk to"
>>29695914
Nothing works better against anxiety. Taken in moderation, they can be an effective form of pharmacotherapy. The problem is that most doctors are incredibly hesitant to use them because they originally dolled them out like smarties, and it led to a great many people becoming chemically dependent, or worse, suffering from early onset dementia. Doctors don't want a repeat of this, or to get sued, so their immediate instinct is to avoid them at all cost and stick with SSRIs as they're what's currently acceptable. But it's a mistake to avoid them in totality.
>>29695939
>a possible testosterone mechanism
That means a very very slight chance in science speak. Whatever you quoted, the authors are more focused on the role of neurotransmitters rather than sexual hormones.
>>29695917
Yeah, I thought the same myself, but I'd rather not risk the use of my cock. Especially if I was getting symptoms.
Make sure you mention any physical symptoms you might have, rather than just emotional ones.
The first time I went to see a doctor about depression, I didn't mention the physical stuff much, and he basically just said it was normal "for someone in my situation" to feel this way and didn't do anything about it.
The second time I went to see a doctor, I made sure to mention trouble sleeping, lethargy, trouble concentration, changes in appetite etc. as well as the emotional stuff, and I was prescribed SSRIs and referred to the CBT people.
>>29695987
Well, fair enough, but if you read the entire study it's pretty evident that they do cause sexual dysfunction of some sort in many, many cases.
>>29695983
And doctors just need to trust you, who is so responsible, unlike all the other benzo-heads.
Don't trust them, it's all about money to them, they don't actually give a fuck about you. You go there for help and you get locked in a fucking psych ward for a month with psychopaths and they give you SSRIs which do nothing but break your dick, cloud your mind, and make you feel like vomiting all the time.
Therapy does fuck all.
Seriously fuck psych docs. We're stuck like this. It doesn't get betterwithout illegal drugs.
>>29696021
Of course SSRIs have that side effect. I never said they don't. I'm very sceptical of the idea that any type of sexual dysfunction must be caused by testosterone (the holy grail of all hormones among the self educated) deficiency.
>>29696028
Well, yes - but if you've got no prior incidence of addiction, you have your shit together (as in, you're at university or in work) and are able to put your point across coherently, you should be alright. Make sure you get the dosage monitored though.
>>29695983
Benzos develop tolerance and mental and physical dependence.
>>29696044
Which compounds would you recommend?
>>29696044
>illegal drugs
It's funny how the most vehement opposers of psychiatry always have a history of illegal substance abuse. Booboo little anon not happy because he got locked up without his druggies?
>>29696048
It simply is not a testosterone issue. This does not mean it can't cause sexual issues. I agree with this
>>29695881
Do you think you're a character from Naruto? Because you still won't be the craziest guy in your psych ward if so.
Just stay away from SSRIs, seriously.
I'm on an NDRI and just had a serious breakthrough with it last night.
My head was suddenly clear, I felt happy and relaxed. My dick still works.
Feels good, man.
>>29696048
It doesn't help that they recommend testosterone injections to counteract sexual dysfunction as a result of SSRIs.
>>29695212
You should never lie to your doctor. Don't exaggerate shit, and don't hide it. They're there to help you, and if you're legitimately at so much risk of killing yourself you could be put in a ward, you either want help and are telling them, so a ward would be good, or you're not going to be even bothered by telling them, because you've already done it.
There is nothing to gain by lying or making shit up.
Also what >>29695963 said is true. Doctors get suspicious if you know and use medical terms, it's a warning sign for malingering. If you're not they'll pick up on it in time, but just leave the medical shit to them, you don't need to use fancy words you only sort of understand.
And don't play up how bad you are. They'll want to talk to family, and if you're lying, that will show up.
Don't worry about being treated seriously either. If you're depressed, you'll be treated appropriately. You don't want your doctor to think you're a bigger risk than you are, that just comes with more restrictions, and you won't get treated any better.
>>29696056
>shit together
>depression
It's a bit of an oxymoron man...
>>29696072
If taken irresponsibly over time, yes. They're like alcohol in that way.
>>29696056
Oh my fucking God you must be a few days older than 20. Socially well adapted people can get deep into any addiction before they start to lose it. It's the social losers that instantly end up in the streets as soon as they touch drugs.
And no doctor is ever going to take responsibility for ruining your life with prescription narcotics just because you """"seemed"""" responsible.
>>29696090
SSRI's are extremely fucking mild medications compared to most used for psychiatrist purposes, or in fact for any purpose. Stop spreading misinformation.
>>29696113
They're like alcohol in a lot of ways.
A lot of doctors see them as alcohol pills, no kidding.
>>29696102
My father suffers with clinical depression and still managed to hold his job. I have a panic disorder, but I'm still at university.
>>29696090
Yes but my friends actually think the same and are very supportive of it.
I don't know if I should tell my psychiatrist or just stick with other things like depression and anxiety which I have too.
>>29696095
>if you're legitimately at so much risk of killing yourself you could be put in a ward, you either want help and are telling them, so a ward would be good, or you're not going to be even bothered by telling them, because you've already done it.
WARD IS NEVER GOOD. If you get put into a ward, that shit stays on your record your whole life. It pretty much destroys any chance you might have at a normal life. Only a retard would risk that.
NEVER go to a shrink and if you for some reason get forced to, never speak the truth.
>>29696094
That's because there is nothing else that can treat the side effect. Viagra is only good when you are impotent from cardiovascular disease.
>>29696074
dudeweedlmao and small to moderate doses of LSD help for the time I'm on them and maybe the next day or so. Coke is great for the motivation/energy part but it's hard to find anything really worth street price. Usually I prefer adderall (crushed and snorted), which I'm working on getting legally.
>>29696078
>implying I started using before the ward and not after because that place fucked me up worse
>>29696102
It's absolutely possible to keep your shit together with depression, unless you're very severe. You're still not great, but you can care for yourself adequately.
>>29696120
That wasn't what I was saying. I was saying that it is possible to take benzos responsibly without succumbing to addiction. Whether or not a doctor would be willing to pursue this course or take responsibility wasn't the original issue.
>>29696127
Being mild 'as compared to other things' doesn't make then a good choice.
I've heard far more negative than positive about them in general. If sexual dysfunction and feeling like a zombie are your bag, have at it.
>>29696151
>WARD IS NEVER GOOD. If you get put into a ward, that shit stays on your record your whole life. It pretty much destroys any chance you might have at a normal life
Ward is absolutely good if the alternative is killing yourself, which obviously stops you from living a normal life, or killing someone else and best case scenario getting stuck in a high security ward for 20 years, more likely a prison though.
Staying in a low security hospital for a few weeks to get stabilised is the best option there.
And it's on your medical record, only government employers can see that. Even military you only can't have been in in the last few years.
>NEVER go to a shrink and if you for some reason get forced to, never speak the truth.
Fuck off retard, your shitty advice does nothing but hurt people and stop them getting treatment they may need.
>>29696172
What about small doses of morphine? Any experiences?
>>29696172
>implying you didn't have a history that got you locked up in the first place
What was it? Antisocial behavior? Gambling addiction? Internet addiction? Personality disorder? No normal person would think taking drugs regularly is the best way to deal with shortcomings and bad life experiences.
>>29696127
>losing all sexual desire and having to put up with weak to non-existent erections counts as a *mild* side effect
>>29696189
You were implying social adaptance is a good indicator of whether someone should be allowed addictive substances. It is not a good indicator. Sadly it happens anyway just to get rid of a bothersome patient.
>>29696172
You're 17-22, aren't you?
You'll eventually realize that self-medication only adds to your problem. I spent 7 years where you're at and am only recently shaking it.
>>29696225
In the world of anaphylatic reactions, Steven Johnson's syndromes, bone marrow depressions, cardiac arrests, hyperthermias and much more, not getting your dick up is very very mild.
>>29696206
>Ward is absolutely good if the alternative is killing yourself, which obviously stops you from living a normal life, or killing someone else and best case scenario getting stuck in a high security ward for 20 years, more likely a prison though.
But you will never get better. Being in a ward is like a marker that shows the rest of society that you are damaged. They don't try to "treat" you, they just want to mark you. That's why psychiatrists exist.
>>29696248
Uh what? What med are you strawmanning there, buddy?
>>29696172
>recommended amphetamines and cocaine for depression
Are you legitimately fucking retarded? Seriously, this is the dumbest advice I've seen on this topic.
>>29696192
>Being mild 'as compared to other things' doesn't make then a good choice.
If you're not able to function properly in society, then yeah, it does make them a good choice.
>I've heard far more negative than positive about them in general
Your anecdotes don't change how often the side effects happen. Sexual dysfunction is generally around 5% of people, (using sertraline as the baseline), and won't necessarily show up in SSRI's, and feeling like a zombie isn't even a proper medical thing. If you mean worsening depressive symptoms, it's less than one in a thousand.
The only side effects people regularly get is some fatigue or nausea, and it generally passes within the first few weeks.
>>29696207
No experiences with opiates, sorry anon.
>>29696210
I guess if internet/porn addiction are a thing then those. Always been pretty anti-social and no sense of self.
>>29696240
19. Seems to help me as long as I keep it mostly under control.
>>29696288
Eh, they help me. I actually get shit done now which leads to less feelings of being a complete failure.
>>29696271
>being this paranoid
This is why schizophrenics rarely seek help, right here. Also why 80% are too far gone to shake it by the time they're finally taken in.
>>29696225
Yes, it is very mild. Compare it to MAOI's for example, which can just flat out kill you if you eat the wrong thing, and is also used for depression. It's mild as fuck, with a 1/20 chance of sexual dysfunction that nearly always goes away once you stop, and only ever remains if you've been on it long term and stop (generally).
>>29696271
>But you will never get better. Being in a ward is like a marker that shows the rest of society that you are damaged. They don't try to "treat" you, they just want to mark you. That's why psychiatrists exist.
Except most people who go into a ward are given meds, watched until they're stable, and released into the community, where they're fine.
Most mentally ill people recover just fine.
Drop the stupid "Psychiatry's out to get you!" line, it's ridiculous, it's just the same as any other medical field.
>>29696324
>Eh, they help me. I actually get shit done now which leads to less feelings of being a complete failure.
Self medication with stimulants to feel better is just drug addiction anon, and a very damaging one at that.
>>29696335
It's the truth. Having a history of mental illness will make your life worse. It will stop you from being able to own guns, do some jobs and many other things. Not to mention psychiatrist is someone who can just throw you into prison (mental ward) whenever she wants. Who would risk that.
>>29696337
>Except most people who go into a ward are given meds, watched until they're stable, and released into the community, where they're fine.
And what if some old cunt with a diploma doesn't decide you're stable? I mean who would be stable knowing you were against your will dragged to some fucking asylum. Then you're gonna be locked up for life. And you think this is okay?
>>29696288
What did you just say about Freud's drug of choice you little bitch?
In all seriousness, I can't recommend a drug that causes limpdick when there are things that work better in most people and actually increase sex drive and pleasure from orgasm.
>>29696345
This is very true, trust me.
>>29695212
I worked in a psychiatric hospital as a doctor for 4 months and would sit in with the consultants when they saw patients (this was all on the NHS so putting people on meds for monetary gain and shit was less prominent that it might be in the states).
Being taken seriously by psychiatry is not difficult, but the key thing people get confused about is what they think are terrible and horrible thoughts and behaviours the psychiatrists don't think much of. I have been in clinics where people are in tears because of apparently how shit their life is and how they are suicidal all the time and how they don't know what they will do to themselves if they get released and the psychiatrist will say to me afterwards that "it's only mild depression when you take everything into account" and don't do much besides CBT and maybe some anti-depressants. With personality disorders we've had some people tell us exactly how they are going to kill themselves when they leave the hospital and the consultant still goes "okay then" and discharges them. And only a tiny proportion actually go through with it.
The other thing is that every psychiatrist knows that you cannot stop people from killing themselves, even in a psych hospital it's easy enough to do, so they can only do so much until it happens. What they need to do is show they haven't been neglectful if it does happen. For example, in the above PD cases they only let them go if they know they have been admitted 5 or 6 times in the last year with exactly the same presentation, saying the same things and then never do anything to themselves when they are discharged. If they let someone who presented for the first time go then they'd be in trouble (sometimes).
>>29696362
>And what if some old cunt with a diploma doesn't decide you're stable? I mean who would be stable knowing you were against your will dragged to some fucking asylum. Then you're gonna be locked up for life. And you think this is okay?
Are you convinced we live in the 50's or some shit? To keep a patient involuntarily locked up, you have to take their case before a tribunal at regular intervals to prove that they need to be kept there. And any patient can request a second opinion, and has access to third party advocacy groups they can contact at any point if they feel they're being mistreated. Oh, and if you agree to be there, they can't even force you to take meds, and you can't be made involuntary unless you apply to leave and are deemed an immediate risk to yourself or others.
The modern mental medical system is nothing like what you're saying it is, it's extremely heavily regulated.
>>29696386
>In all seriousness, I can't recommend a drug that causes limpdick when there are things that work better in most people and actually increase sex drive and pleasure from orgasm.
What anti-depressants increase sex drive and pleasure from orgasm?
And as I've said, it's only 5% that experience sexual dysfunction (well between 1% and 10%, so I'm just saying the average), and most don't get complete lack of ability to get an erection.
>>29696345
How is it damaging if I use proper harm reduction, take tolerance breaks, don't start compulsive redosing?thank you for seeming like you care about me I haven't experienced this in a very long time
>>29696206
>ward is better than suicide rite guise XDDDD
Are you actually fucking retarded? Do you know how much that place fucks people up? I have seen a few warded people in my life, and they are all paranoid of being sent back, and have developed immense anxiety and paranoia. This isn't a joke man, if you go to the ward, you get fucked. Then throw in the damn social stigma, your family thinking you are retarded for the rest of your life, and the mark of your permanent records. You are probably just a roastie that is like, "i so le smart xxDDDD"
>>29696423
>The modern mental medical system is nothing like what you're saying it is, it's extremely heavily regulated.
I live in a country where the asylums are owned and operated by the state, just as most of the health care actually. So it's nowhere near what you described.
Still why would you subject yourself to this. Even if you have problems, this will just amplify whatever problems you might have and confirm them.
>>29696206
>>29696475
exactly fucking this family member
>>29696362
Anon I told my psych that I thought about suicide nonstop and she assured me that I'd have no issues buying a gun when I asked. Told her I like sport shooting, which is true.
Unless you're a fucking Klebold, you're fine.
>>29696461
The same as long term use of any amphetamine, they're potentially neurotoxic compounds, and can cause damage even when used at therapeutic levels, let alone the levels you need to self medicate with (Which are recreational levels).
Here's some sources
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2670101/
http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/amphetamines.asp
http://amphetamines.com/effects/
>>29696475
You should calm down anon, psych wards aren't like they were in the 50's, they're just a normal medical ward. You go in, do a lot of sitting around watching TV, wait for appointments with doctors and mealtimes/medication times, and then you go to bed. Repeat until you're released. They aren't asylum's from the 50's, and your anecdotes don't count for shit.
>>29696476
>I live in a country where the asylums are owned and operated by the state, just as most of the health care actually. So it's nowhere near what you described.
Asylum's as in psychiatric units, I'm assuming you mean. And what country? Because I seriously hope you're not giving advice for American's or people in other first world countries based on Romania or some shit like that.
I'm talking about those countries, where most posters come from.
>>29696459
Bupropion, other dopaminergics.
>>29696519
Oh yes, the land of the free. I live in europe. Actually one of the countries with the most liberal (if not the most liberal) gun laws. Being treated for any mental illness at all means you're never getting a permit. Actually even being diagnosed with aspergers can be a problem.
>>29696553
In the U.S. if you get stuck in the nut hut you're unable to buy a gun for 5 years. Looks like I'll have to wait till I'm 24 to buy a glock.
>>29696552
But that drug has other issues, notably increased risk of seizures. It was taken off the market because of it for a while.
It's also less effective than SSRI's, and is intended to be taken with them.
>>29696542
>And what country?
Czech Republic. So not really western europe, but not really Romania either.
>>29696542
Thanks, anon, but when I'm not on them I'm completely demotivated and I can't focus on shit. Things would be worse if I just stopped.
>>29696608
I take it by itself and it's very effective once you've adjusted. The sr and xl formulations are a lot more even and gentle. Agree to disagree I guess.
>>29696542
Well, I can't talk from personal experience, but the people who do go in never come back whole, or exactly right in the head. The guys I've talked to about it said they are pretty much always watching you. Like, always. They also said the design of the place was really fucked up. When I say that, I mean that is was really simple. Like the place was made by an alien that copy and pasted some elements of an American home and threw them together. Also the food was awful, but honestly who gives a shit about that. This one guy said the doctors and a security guy practically forced a pill down him. Said it got him sp00ked from other people touching him. Can confirm, he is really freaky about touching people now.
>>29695212
>Depression Doctor
>depression doctor
duuude wtf
>>29696622
If you're in the Czech republic, I don't really think you should be using your psychiatric system as an example for how the rest of the world is anon. Next time you post about this topic, mention where you live, because you're scaring people away from getting help they need, psych wards aren't a huge deal in the west where nearly every poster is from.
>>29696624
WEll, if you're being safe and responsible you're at less risk, but just keep in mind that there are long term damages, and you are at high risk of addiction.
>>29696644
It's effective, sure, but less than others, such as SSRI's, and is more effective when taken with them.
The risk of seizures is worse than the risk of sexual dysfunction I think.
>>29696671
>Well, I can't talk from personal experience, but the people who do go in never come back whole, or exactly right in the head
Have you considered that the point of a ward is that you're not right in the head to start off with? You don't go in if you're normal and functioning well.
>The guys I've talked to about it said they are pretty much always watching you. Like, always
They're supposed to check on you every however long, depends on how big a risk you are. Half an hour usually, some of the worse patients have to have a nurse with them at all times, but they're usually in special wards. It's not invasive at all that the staff can see you throughout the day though, it's just you can always see their office.
>hey also said the design of the place was really fucked up. When I say that, I mean that is was really simple. Like the place was made by an alien that copy and pasted some elements of an American home and threw them together.
It's a medical ward, not a holiday resort. You don't go there for the great interior decoration and architecture, and I don't see how this can be traumatising.
>Also the food was awful, but honestly who gives a shit about that.
On ward food's better than normal hospital food. cont
>>29696671
>This one guy said the doctors and a security guy practically forced a pill down him. Said it got him sp00ked from other people touching him. Can confirm, he is really freaky about touching people now.
Can only happen if you're involuntary, agree to be there and you can turn down meds. And they generally won't bother trying to force a patient unless they're violent without the medication.
>>29696751
I'll keep those things in mind, thank you anon
>>29695212
tell him the truth of what happens, don't exaggerate. if you're not depressed, you're not depressed
>>29696751
>If you're in the Czech republic, I don't really think you should be using your psychiatric system as an example for how the rest of the world is anon. Next time you post about this topic, mention where you live, because you're scaring people away from getting help they need, psych wards aren't a huge deal in the west where nearly every poster is from.
Fair enough. But what would you tell to someone like me? When getting into a ward actually is pretty fucking bad.
>>29696807
>But what would you tell to someone like me? When getting into a ward actually is pretty fucking bad.
Well, I don't know the situation in your country, so I can't really say. But if you have family, using them as a method of crisis management would be a good option if you're in immediate risk.
If your system's that bad though, I'd recommend moving, you're not likely to get great care in a bad system unless you get really lucky. Though, I should say, this advice is all assumption based, I don't know the reality of your country.
>>29695212
They just asked me if I wanted medication. I never had to try to get taken seriously. I actually wanted their opinion on whether I'm really depressed or not, but they refused.
>>29695212
Don't tell him you have an active means to destroy yourself. Just say you have vague thoughts of suicide but no plan and wouldn't actually do it. Also say you have terrible anxiety. Feel like you are going to die, etc... Anytime you go outside. You can probably score some easy xannies that way.
>>29697633
I dunno really, if you feel like you might not be able to stop yourself from suicidal action in a moment, then I'd say you should tell them. If you're worried you'll do it, you probably don't want to, so honesty is important.
