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How are you holding up fellow oldfags?
I was not made for this world
>>29681218
41 here. Life is a never-ending drudgery of pointless shit. It never "gets better" and it never stops.
>>29681218
Today is more or less the same as yesterday witch was the same as the day before.
Forty-five to fifty more years I believe I have to wait before it ends naturally.
>Good
25, college grad, live with roommate, work in law, $40,000/yr, getting a raise/promotion late August. Even though my ex came back into my life and there are issues, things are better. I've grown substantially and continue to treat people well.
>Not so Good
Cousin recently murdered. Realizing mother is getting older and will, at one point or another, die. Realizing the same of my siblings and nephews. Only solace comes in knowing I have no intent to have kids who will experience like losses in a world that is, in many ways, burning
>>29681218
I'm just reading books to kill the time. I'm visiting my mom for the holiday weekend and everyone is out working/traveling so I'm here in her house by myself. It's too hot to go outside so I'm just chilling.
Applied for a job this week, and became ashamed at how pathetic my c.v is. I really dont have anything more than my highschool diploma.
I'm 27 and this might be the summer I get laid.
Wish me luck sempais
>>29681566
praise kek. You're gonna get laid
I'm 27. I have a house and a well-paying job, but I od ridiculous hours (4 12-hour shifts a week, often flipping between day and night shift mid-week or even multiple times) and I have pretty much lost all interest in finding a girl. Looking forward to gaining my virginity-strengthened wizard powers in three years.
The long work hours and fucked up sleep schedule mess with my head, though. Sure,
I'm making all the money forever, but time passes like a giant hallway and the days just kinda blend into each other. Surreal as hell.
I got a master's degree. I got married. I have no money and I constantly think about killing myself.
I thought life was supposed to get better?
Getting worse by the day. I thought the feels would dull over time but they've only grown stronger. I can't even wagecuck properly anymore.
>>29681566
28 here
been saying this every year since 18
The ride never ends
A girl has been flirting with me lately, shes pretty cute but has a very visible tattoo of her ex's name. Might not pursue further because of that, I'd feel like a Chuck.
>>29681610
where is that gloriously badass picture from?
>lost virginity at 27
>but no wife to tie me down, dodged that bullet (thanks Lord for not making me too handsome which would have led to me making life-changing decisions while still young and stupid)
>wagecucking but at a pretty comfy job
>sure the world is still turning to shit but at least I'm free and still have my health
Could be a lot fucking worse.
>>29681660
>a Chuck
This is the best typo I've ever seen on the board. The beta version of Chad is Chuck. It even gets atound the wordfliter.C_U_C_K wordfilters to KEK
>>29681218
32yo. Still live with a roommate. Have a nice job in a union. No GF except for the girl I lost my V card to 12 years ago.
I have a lot of ideas that I think are good, but I'm not implementing them. I'm at the "half a page of scribbled lines" part of the song... I can still do it though!!!
30 here. As I've aged my crippling social anxiety has transformed into social apathy. I no longer find myself uncomfortable or embarrassed in any circumstance. If someone says something to me I'll answer if I have something relevant to say, otherwise I'll ignore them or stare at them until they get weirded out and fuck off. I've also developed a brutal honesty that would've gotten me in trouble many times over if I had normie relationships to maintain or a normie job to worry about.
Luckily I've managed to become good friends with my boss who doesn't mind my eccentricities. He runs multiple small businesses and pays me decent money to help him with the grunt work.
>>29681218
32 years old. best financial situation I've ever been in, but it's a little precarious. I live in a great situation, great apartment, keeping my health up, eating extremely well, but no social life and no sex. super lonely. Also, I haven't resolved my existential angst.
Just applied for a job as a lumberjack. They told me I dont look the part but They need someone to keep records in Excel. Glad I can do my part making the World worst for the children of others.
26 here.
I was forced to use a selfie stick today. And yes it's as bad as you think.
Thankfully whenever I leave the house I try to look as good as possible, dressed nice but pedestrian, and well groomed
25 here. Fit, had a bunch of gfs and lot of sec, but OCD is killing my chadness. I struggle more and more to Talk clearly and my behavior is a fucking mess of bipolarity.
>>29681218
27. Seems life slows down while the time keep its pace. Seems I do virtually nothing in a year
>>29681218
32
can't buy a fucking job, never had a college education and cant get anyting but manual labor and retail shit, after i turned 30 it became instantly harder to get a job, i guess they figure if your 30 and still applying to work at walmart you are a waste of space.
>>29681218
30, live at home, NEET for a couple of years now but sick of that meme life so I''m gonna get back in the rat race and bee myself and follow my dreams~. I think that 25 was the worst year of my life, psychologically speaking.
The thing that sticks out the most is how I can't really relate to anyone younger than their late 20s.
The fact that there are adults who grew up with the internet and their childhood was spent watching youtube and they don't know anything about 90s and early 2000s culture is baffling to me. It's like they're aliens, or I'm the alien.
>>29682960
I think 25 is the worst year in anyone's life, period.
im 25 i have extreme anxiety outside i need to overcome
working out and honing my skills keep me out of depression.
but browsing r9k fucks with my depression levels
>>29682973
turning 30 was pretty depressing, it's like wow my life is half over and i haven't done anything i wanted to do.
Tired of lending my stepsister money and never getting any back. Though I finally got regular instead of temp at my job, I'm up for two raises soon and I'm gonna hang out with friends for the first time in a while tomorrow. Therapy is going alright but eating shitty food is aggravating my anxiety like a motherfucker.
>>29683009
25 was a lot worse for me. It's the age where I had to confront mortality.
40 sounds worse than 50 for some reason.
40 is washed up and 50 is venerable.
>>29682973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHxZo-aSffQ
Definitely. At 20 I was feeling awkward and old-ish hanging out with 17-18 year olds but I was still thinking "nah it's only a few years it's only a big deal if I make it a big deal" and had some regrets that I wasn't doing whatever I thought I would be doing at 20 years old, but nothing too bad.
25 is when your friends and former classmates start getting kids of their own and getting their own homes and married while you're still watching Vietnamese soap operas.
I think 30 is when you're like "ehhhhhhh whatever what am I going to hop in a time machine or go flirt with high school girls still? Fuck it."
>>29683023
40 sounds fucked up
30 is the most fucked
50 is ok since ur alive and probably settled in life
>>29683095
Yup, describes my experience perfectly as well.
>>29681218
My sister started trying to fucking have kids as soon as she was living out of the house and she got pregnant by the time I was 19, so really I felt old ever since I was 19 years old. Then again I'm a NEET who still lives with his parents so I'm the weird uncle who's no fun and lives at grandma & grandpa's.
I just want a wife and family.
>>29681960
>I haven't resolved my existential angst.
Existential angst isn't something you can resolve. That's the biggest lie of the mental health profession.
Existential angst is just whenever you notice that you were built to expect permanence and meaning, but everything in the world will end.
Either you believe in an afterlife, or you just "keep busy".
>28
>Been going out with used goods but telling them we wouldn't do anything sex related
>They go crazy after long enough without fail
>Just want to lose it to a virgin girl so it stops being a problem
>Recently became the last virgin known in my circle
I don't know why I fucking try sometimes
>>29681218
39 KV here, living like a neet. Just waiting until I build up enough courage to bag myself
>>29681218
30 years old here
>I was not made for this world
I wasn't either - no gf ever - no friends for that matter and sacked from my job, but I just made a superb spaghetti bolognese after drinking a bottle of rum, and nothing the fuck even matters, not a thing.
Fuck the nasty, smelly, roast beef pussy female woman. Infant human producing machines; eat drink be merry and thank goodness for a peaceful life.
>27
>live with parents
>no gf
>no friends
>work about 50 hrs/wk
>just finished paying off student loans
>don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do next
>>29683430
buy a cheap house, you can find one for 20k or less in my area. live in it or rent it out.
>>29683536
Where the hell do you live? I'm moving there.
>>29683368
>just "keep busy"
There's nothing wrong with that. One of the biggest problems with our society is that we value "asking hard questions", having opinions about philosophy and so on.
I think you can tell before you start, that this won't lead to anything solid. But people do it anyway. They feel like if they just keep thinking about it, they'll figure it out.
Just exist. Stop thinking. You might say that's "giving up", but giving up on what? Who gave you the orders to think yourself into unhappiness?
>>29683552
probably a shithole flyover
>>29683536
I work and live in Los Angeles county. All the houses within 50 miles of downtown LA cost more than 300k. I dont want to move out to a small town where there are no jobs and have to commute for four hours every day to work at a city.
>>29683574
Nothing wrong with a shithole flyover if you're not intending to be a captain of industry. A 20K house I could by with my saved up neetbux would be godly, since I could quit paying rent, have a permanent place, and either grow a couple of weed plants, or save for a nice vacation.
>>29683602
Is Lancaster within 50 miles?
27 here. I earn well but it's not enough, and I'm reluctant to change jobs because this company is my only actual social group. But I want to earn a LOT because I figure if I have no life I can compensate with this.
Lately I worked closely with a normie faggot who figured out how much of a loser I am with women. I'm not sure if he just assumed because I'm ugly as shit or deduced from something, and I don't know what's worse. I'm a KV and this getting out would be a social suicide so I'd rather hide if possible.
>>29683758
people assume things all the time
i got tired of it and tell people to fuck off, i hate it when people assume shit in my face without knowing me
>>29683555
>we value "asking hard questions", having opinions about philosophy and so on.
No society doesn't really value that. People do it because they want to feel intelligent.
When I was young existential angst was easy to ignore because there was nothing I could really do or knew I could do about it.
As I got older it was sort of a, do things anyway you don't have much of a choice start working on those problems that seem insurmountable.
A few years later and it's like I know nearly with complete certainty no matter what I do there's no way to have a decent life. Probably time to just resign self to dying.
Out of billions of people on the planet, when you really think about it you suck so bad nobody giving a shit or openly celebrating about you being dead after that is kind of a shitty feeling.
>>29683810
>the world is so big
>we have no purpose etc
your life and your reality is the only thing that matters
26 y/o here, I'm seriously considering saying fuck it and joining the French Foreign Legion.
I' did 2 pumps to Afghanistan as a Marine grunt, and I've been out for 3 years now. Nothing in civilian life catches my interest. I want to see combat again while I am still physically capable, and the FFL is always deployed to some shithole in Africa. I've already removed my fair share of kebab in my previous years of military service, and the FFL will give me a chance to remove some niggers as well. I figure that, if I am not going to produce strong aryan children, I can at least make my effect on the gene pool by eliminating as many undesirable shitskins as possible.
Also, Africa is in the beginning stages of a massive population boom. African governments are not prepared or equipped to deal with the rising tide of anarchy that the pop boom will bring to the continent. Mercenaries are going to be in high demand in Africa in 5-10 years time. I figure that after an enlistment in the Marines and the FFL, I could walk on to almost any mercenary group. Becoming fluent in French will also help. I just registered for a French language class at my local community class this fall. Right now I'm planning on leaving for France just after the new year.
Sorry for ranting bros just felt like getting it out.
>>29683872
ergo when you decide it isnt worth living that kind of a life because you can't improve it all that is left is getting ready to die and just accepting people will probably be as big of faggots about it or worse than when you were alive
>>29683966
no i simply stop putting my self esteem with purpose
if i am comfortable and enjoy life at some way its good enough.
i mean yeah it would ideal for everyone to have wives,cars,houses,jobs etc but shit is not the case. just roll with what you have
stop trying to achieve some sort of ideal and start thinking about your piece of mind and security in the future
>>29684037
>piece of mind and security in the future
not sure why you think im doing something else
>>29683887
Americans can't really join the FFL, especially ex-mil would be unlikely
They're looking for highly dependent shit skins who speak French native and will feel completely fulfilled in life by the uniform and modest paycheck .
And they're paranoid of any potential diplomatic or PR issues.
>>29681218
28 here and I feel like I've crossed the point of no return
>drop graphic design school in 2010
>since then I've made some Web Development in freelance
>trying to find a first job now but i never had a proper job experience in my domain
I-It's going to be ok, right?
>>29684138
im just saying everyone wants everyone else to live a normal life
but think of it really, how many people do get to live a "normal" life? its just some bullshit. maybe in the 1950's you could have a normal life even if you had bad teeth or social awkwardness nowdays it can get you fired
>>29684188
freelancer here.
portfolio is the bottom line,everything else is just some bullshit they fill the resumes with to get the best possible candidate
>>29683758
lol trust me everyone knew you were a virgin already. You can just look at a man and you can tell what his sex life is like. It ain't pretty out there guys, this world is evil.
>>29683785
Yeah, I'm really sick of it. Especially when I get people who are otherwise retards and/or NEETs who act superior to me due to having a gf, or even having had a gf. It pisses me off like no tomorrow.
>>29684193
not really. 1950s were a shit time. you just wouldn't hear about the people that didn't make it well they died in obscurity
>>29684214
I was thinking of putting some sample web apps on github to land some kind of front end job
>29
>NEET
>Dropped out of high school & college
>can't drive
>no ambitions or goals
>everyone I knew growing up has moved on
>left behind in a dead end northern town
>nothing to do here but drink yourself to death
>nobody my age to socialise with
>nobody understands that there is nothing to do for someone my age who has no social life
>all the activities that take place outside are social activities
>have nobody to go outside and be social with
>every time I go outside I feel like I don't belong there and can't relate to anyone or anything
Just got my NEETbux back after 2 1/2 months because the guy who did my assessment lied on his report. Got 1000 pounds in backpay.
Might actually use it to improve my life..get driving lessons or something idk..
Turning 25 soon, lads.
Already noticed I no longer need to fap every day. I guess it's downhill from here.
>>29684220
How do normies do it? Surely there is a way to cheat this system.
what up f am, 25 kv neet on bux here, living in homeless shelters on and off since 16, kicked out at 18, droppout of everything including cc, etc etc i could go on etc
honestly, in all seriousness, im fucking GUCCI. like bux has legit made my life fucking comfy as a smug nigger after winning a melee match he should of lost. like all i do is wake up, game, 4chan, shitpost, and chill. i even made a close friend who is basically the clone of me. like i play with dude and i dont have any stress and im comfy and i legit dont even want a gf or anything
my dream is to like to out in northern canada and build a cabin there and live with 2 shiba puppers. like i daydream about it all the time. but i live on bux and have like 8k in student debt so i highly doubt ill ever be able to afford it. like i cannot express how much distaste i have for seeing people. like for me going to a shopping mall is what i imagine hell to be like. like my own personal hell is just a endless crowded shopping mall with no exits
but otherwise im fucking good. like my whole life has legit been a unending series of nightmares up until i dropped out of society and i got on bux. i hated being a kid, my parents never even remotely loved me and im pretty sure they dispise me, they always took videogames away from me, i hated school and growing up so much and i could never hold a job longer than 3 months
but like now im just smug as those anime sluts. fuck, im actually ompimistic about the future because its all going downhill. robots will made everyone unemployed and i will be laughing. and then ai will come and then make humans obsolete and i will laugh even more.
>>29684274
Weakling. I'm 28 and can still fap 4 times a day, when I have a free day. Once for all other days.
>>29684280
normies don't surely know, they just pick at people that seem weak and assume shitload of things about them
one time i told a nigger to go back to africa he did a move with his hand like he was going to hit me but didn't do shit, fucking faggots
>>29684328
>Weakling. I'm 28 and can still fap 4 times a day,
I haven't been able to do that since I was like 18.
Twice a day is already too much.
>>29684349
Sounds like you lost your mojo. You need to get it back.
>>29684298
>talking like a nignog, with almost no grap of the English language
>being proud of being on retard-welfare
>being in homeless shelters
>posting the worst anime girl out there
While you say you're laughing on the outside, I think you're dead and gone on the inside.
>>29684267
Sounds like you need to move.
Halfway through 25
>good
Got a new job at local fast food, live rent free with retired parent, got 3.7 gpa in spring semester, have my own room and bathroom, parent used to be abusive, but is in process of reforming
>not so good
Think about killing myself every day, convinced the future is hopeless, attitude is shitty, can't and don't desire to form meaningful relationships, constant flashbacks of abuse throughout life
>>29684411
Can't afford to move out, can't afford to live on my own. NEETbux only go so far.
>>29684405
grap of the English language
35 year old here
Got bad news for you guys, if your shit isn't close to becoming together by 25 its most likely not going to ever. We're the outcasts of society, I'm honestly sorry life is no fairy tail. It really does get worse and worse. You'll break and "almost do it" around 30, but you'll puss out.
>>29684328
>>29684380
>>29684274
I'm 30 and CAN fap 12 times a day if I wanted to, but I don't.
It's not even a matter of having a sex drive, it's just that masturbation and porn gets old as a meme. Anyone can lazily squeeze out a single cumdrop multiple times a day from the comfort of their computer chair with their pants still on.
I fap once every two weeks, once a week maybe, and don't even need porn.
>>29684405
If you're a NEET, there's literally nothing wrong with living on welfare. When you spend so much time in isolation, your shame levels deplete incredibly fast.
>>29683887
Doing God's work, keep at it man.
>>29684454
That sounds shitty anon, how did your failed attempt go?
>>29684447
It's a single typo, better "dan typing like dis u know like my f am i cant even capitalize the letter i like dude like like"
>>29681218
Better than usual. Started lifting again after not working out at all for a couple years. Seeing results already, which is pretty nice. Other than that, I might as well not even be alive. I sit at home literally all day every day playing vidya. I'm going to have to find a job soon because my savings are running low.
>>29684431
Do your parents work? Couldn't they help you get set up somewhere you could get a job? You always become homeless and work your way up somewhere.
>>29684527
My mum has been NEET for years due to bi-polar and depression. I can't afford to live on my own and she can't afford me to move out.
My dad just got out of the hospital a couple of weeks ago for his alcoholism. He does odd jobs and just moved in with my grandad to take care of him because he doesn't have long left.
Doing pretty well.
>25
>mechanice at luxury car dealer
>60k a year and climbing
>girlfriend who will become wife in next couple years
>want to travel to Europe and do more roadtrips, and open my own shop
>own three cars, two are ones I've always wanted
Really, I've already done a lot of shit that I want to do. I'm just building further on what I have already. I could die happily tonight, in all honesty.
It's a good feeling knowing that at 25, the rest of my life is just icing on the cake.
>>29684597
reason for r9k?
>>29684597
Where did you learn to become a mechanic?
>>29681293
it stops if you end it
>>29684462
>If you're a NEET, there's literally nothing wrong with living on welfare
No of course not, but it's certainly not something worth gloating about how "gucci" it is to be on the same level as people with downs' syndrome.
>>29684405
>>talking like a nignog, with almost no grap of the English language
i mean im sure i made gramatical errors a fucking plenty but you understood what i said, so why nitpick on spelling or other worhtless shit? dont you know proper word structure is only relevent in your cum drinking liberal english class?
>>being proud of being on retard-welfare
well i mean i wouldnt say im exactly proud of it, but i do like it and i like the lifestyle. i mean if i could do more i would, but im not exactly able.
>>being in homeless shelters
yeah in youth shelters, since i was 16. it was actually better than livign with my parents honestly
>>posting the worst anime girl out there
go back to naruto and bleach u fucking liberal bull prepping cum cuzzling whore marrying C U C K O L D
>While you say you're laughing on the outside, I think you're dead and gone on the inside.
i mean sure, believe what u want, i have a very strong distaste of people and i guess im a misanthrope, but i wouldnt go as far to say im dead and gone inside. i mean i guess i do get emo sometimes but who doesnt?
also umaru is okay, but sylph a GOAT
>"OMG your word structure is so bad and your use of the english language is laughage HAHAHA you are so uneducated and stupid"
i always deeply hated spelling nazi's. it doesnt help that im jewish either
>>29684597
>25
>60k a year and climbing
>no gf
>no travel
>no motivation to do anything
>own one car I've always wanted
I'm only a failed normie and I hate you
>>29681756
cuck isn't filtered
>>29684597
>born in 1987
>so i guess i'm 29
>isn't too bad, will get my bachelor's march next year or so
>never expected to go to uni ever
>also have a NEET, videogaming-loving gf with rich parents who bought everything in the place we live in
>even a 600$ coffee machine
>playing vidya all day, occasionally studying some particle physics
not so good:
>in depth 7000$ and rising, cause i'm going to be a student till i'm 33 or something
>>29681756
The Trinity is complete. Chad, Stacy, Chuck.
>>29684817
>Chuck
Have we just witnessed the birth of a new ebin meme?
>>29684814
i meant *debt
Just turned 30 this year. i am also homeless now as of june. .
I have a job and car, so its not all bad, but i need to get a camper before winter hits, then i need to find some place to park it.
I may lose my job though, which means im well and truly fucked in that case.
I dunno. Things may finally improve for me or ill permafucked and die in the cold.
Wish me luck you fucks.
Anyone else finally trying to get their shit together at 25? I just got my high school equivalency and am gonna try to go to college
I don't think I can take being a virgin and a loser working retail for the rest of my life
>>29684817
PRAISE KEK - he has delivered unto us the final piece of the puzzle
>>29684793
>but you understood what i said, so why nitpick on spelling or other worhtless shit?
Because it makes you sound completely retarded. You type like a 12 year old girl, or a 38 year old black man from the ghetto, a mix of the two really.
question for those who havent fucked yet
does sex feel like some kind of alien concept to you as well? giving yourself up like that... letting her see you like that, her liking you that much?
I can't even imagine someone loving me in that
Being that close, thinking of me in an "attractive" way like that
Ive started to accept that ill never have sex, that ill never pass the barrier of talking to a girl like any other girl would, and flirting and getting her into bed.
It's so far away
>>29684949
>Because it makes you sound completely retarded. You type like a 12 year old girl, or a 38 year old black man from the ghetto, a mix of the two really.
>"i think u sound silly! XD"
okay i guess. thanks-aronies there oniichan
dont forget to hit that upboat button on your new facebook feed eks deeeeeee
27. I have a degree and a decent job in IT except my drive to work is one hour. No friends for a couple years now and I've never had a girlfriend. I've been having chronic pain issues in my gut for a year now and the docs haven't been able to help. I am in pain all the time now.
I am moving out soon, I am not sure where. I want to buy a house in the country side and work from home and stop driving two hours every day. I want my pain issues to stop. It is getting harder and harder to cope with my current life.
>>29684765
well, i mean the lifestyle itself is fucking lovely dude
no stress, no boss telling you what to do, no alarm clock
you sleep in every day no matter what. EVERY DAY. i dont remember the last time i didnt sleep in. i dont have to see people i hate everyday and work with them. i dont have to put up with anyones bullshit
im just a free shitposting soul who games, watches anime clips and masturbates all day
how is that not gucci?
>>29684803
it only uncensored that if you whack off to k_u_c_k porn you kek
>>29684949
I've got the strong feeling, that he's deaf. they usually aren't very good when it comes to grammar, which is understandable because they (or most of them) communicate visually. I may be mistaken and he's lived for too long on the streets
>>29685068
I'm a NEET and my life is complete shit. I go to bed wide awake in the morning and wake up tired in the afternoon. I have nothing to do but to talk to other retards on r9k. I have no chance of ever getting laid again or to make any progress as a person.
It's a self-imposed prison.
>>29685019
Who is the question for? The normies will say lol virgin and the others will just agree with you.
Just remember sex really doesn't mean that much to normies. It's not about love. They see and talk and fuck so many people it's just a form of solitary masturbation with more than one person in the room. Rarely do they remember people they fuck.
>>29685102
LOLHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
good one m80
honestly tho ive failed english so many times ive lost count. i never got the whole "u have to put these words in a N I C E structure to express the exact same idea XDDD" english class thing
only thing i was ever good in school was math actually. i had like 90's in math failed everything else
>>29683334
>all while growing up having a wife and family just seemed like something that happens inevitably
>tfw realizing it will simply never happen
>>29685135
>u
That's what I meant, 12 year old girls who text each other write "you" as "u". You're a grown ass semi-intelligent man, write like one.
>>29684885
>>29684817
>chuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoG8YL9kqO0
>>29681218
I'm 27 and housebound with an extremely painful and disorienting neurological condition. I've been living with my parents for the past 4 years.
Most days I think about suicide but I'm afraid of death and I still derive vague pleasure from my hobbies and interests.
>>29681218
26. Have a graduate degree, a well-paying job, no major health issues. Realized recently that I'm getting close to 30 and don't really have anything. Last time I had sex I was 14, not sure I'll ever have it again.
>>29684878
me
i just learned skills through the internet and freelancing
>>29684803
But T B H is desu
I feel kinda bad because I got really mad at the use of "desu" everywhere and now I realise that half of it was probably word filter. Tbh isn't much better, desu is just the weeaboo version of DESU
>>29681218
i was a grad school robot and now im a wagecuck robot
that's about it
technically working is better than the poverty and instability of grad school but being wiped out every night after the 8 hour day plus hour long commute sucks
and i relapsed on alcohol because of the fatigue
and i dont get paid enough
>29
>about 33k a year
>basically non existent social life
>mostly ok with life despite some loneliness
Thinking of going to college to study math because I like math.
>>29681610
i feel you bro
i had to get a master's degree from an ivy league school simply for the PRIVILEGE OF BEING A WAGEKEK
>>29685735
I hear the alcohol part
>Resolved to cut down on drinking in 2016
>Got new job
>Long hours, extra long commute, high-stress, soulless work that wasn't laid out in the job description
Alcoholism is my only friend.
>>29685736
Pure math is the comfiest shit ever. Too bad you can't get work without a good amount of stat and applied math credits, I'd do this shit for a living if I had the brain for it.
>>29685762
haha yeah wonder why they never write >"anything remotely interesting about this job is going to be gone by your second month, and we will make you stay at the office every day until you want to scream from boredom and the good mood you started the day with has utterly disappeared."
in the job descriptions
i guess they just assume everyone's a normie who leaves work with a smile on their face ready to whip up a healthy dinner and then go for a run with their girlfriend
>>29684817
TOP CHUCK
>>29685450
I am 30. fell for the AlphaBux meme. Fuck your career and become goodlooking if you want dat puss. Or, dominate other men.
Grunt-tier engineers make bank $$$ but don't get sex.
>>29685813
geoff? is u, lone tree fag?
>>29685813
One of my problems comes from being an amerifat that has to pay out of the ass for education.
I have a lot math books that I do in my own time, but don't think it will help me get a job because no piece of paper.
It will make the first two years or so of bachelor's pretty easy though
>>29685019
the idea of sex makes me very uncomfortable. even though I women attractive and fap, I'm not sure I could have sex or at least ever enjoy it.
>>29683334
> money
> looks
> charm
3 = chad tier
2 = marriage tier
1 = divorcerape tier
0 = foreveralone tier
"Getting married" doesn't stop one from moving up or down this scale.
>>29686151
No
>>29686189
One thing I found during undergrad was that it's really easy to forget to practice the more trivial problems, which can lead to time management issues in exams.
>>29683373
>Just want to lose it to a virgin girl
Never gonna happen bro. Virgins only fuck Chads. They don't know better; why would they EVER pick the awkward guy over the handsome charming (lying) guy?
The only way to fuck a virgin in America is to fuck 30 other women first.
>>29686436
this
and this also completely sums up why feminism was a mistake and women's liberation has sounded the death knell of the west
26 here.
not holding up so well.
gfs dog bit the shit out of my right hand unprovoked. had to go to the doctor and get antibiotics and a tetanus booster. can't go to work for the time being because I can't do my job if I can't use my hand. and in my state its the law that the doctors have to report animal bites to the police. so long story short my gf is pissed at me because she thinks Im trying tobget her slapped with a fine and get her dog taken away, and is trying to make me out as the bad guy when I'm the one who was attacked. I told the police I don't want to press charges. and if it was up to me the police wouldn't have been involved at all. damn government sticking their noses into a bad situation and making it worse. but anyway the dog is getting quarantined for 10days by animal control. gf is pissed and won't listen to me. honestly not sure if I have a gf anymore, but I'd rather be alone than with a girl who cares more about a fucking animal than me.
26 here, generally feeling lost and unmotivated.
I know what i need to do, ive just lost that "spark".
I have nothing to complain about honestly.
Just gotta take it one day at a time.
>>29686678
Get out now. You're nothing to her.
You're getting a huge neon-lit look into the future with this bitch when she poops out a kid. You'll be roadkill.
>>29684642
Because I do identify with yall on some level. Normies do suck and the world is a cruel place. A lot of people find me too weird.
>>29684684
Dad helped me get started. Taught me sone of his knowledge, gave me his old broken down truck, and I took it from there. I'm now ripping into engines on 80k dollar cars.
>>29684800
Im sorry
>>29684814
Do what makes you happy. Fuck everybody else
25 year old robot reporting in
>still a virgin
>no real education
>doing some IT program here in Utah not sure if I will pass it
How do I get my own place to live? I am staying at my uncles and don't know what to do to get an apartment or something.
>>29681218
Fresh-off-the-boat 25yo here. I no longer desire a romantic relationship with women, not because it's not an inherently desirable thing but because it's virtually impossible to find one who could ever like an ugly sperg like me who isn't a complete slut.
I no longer want to make money or even particularly to have friends, I just want to live on my own property and have some job making at least a bit above minimum wage. Generally speaking, I desire to die alone, and unfortunately have a loving family that makes it socially unacceptable to just kill myself when I get bored.
>>29681218
I don't know what to do with myself anymore, and I'm not sure that I care. I'm 27 years old, never had a GF, and all my friends have moved on to wherever they are now.
I'm slowly waiting to die, and my only hope is that I find the strength to end it sooner on my own terms.
30. had the girl of my dreams a couple years ago. true 10/10 even by r9k standards (she was a virgin too). like all good things in my life though, it was short lived happiness. she left me. guess it's not surprising, she was 16 when we met, 20 when she left me. people change. but it hurt a lot, because i never had shit before her. no friends or social life. after that i got a job, got pretty fit because it was incredibly fucking hard, bought a motorcycle. things sucked but were ok, i always felt good when i was vrooming, no matter what. but one day, coming home from work, an SUV turned right in my path. bam. just like that, my bike was gone. my job. my health. i'm back to where i started before i met her but now i'm fucking 30 and it all fees so hopeless. i'm pretty set on suicide when my savings dry up, but i won't be going alone.
i didn't deserve this shit life
>>29686119
I don't really want just sex. What I really want is a gf, somebody who can be my wife and give me children (lol). I really need to lose some weight and gain some muscle but yet again today I spent the entire day playing vidya and watching Netflix.
I gotta quit drinking. Its still really fun and enables me to function socially. But my body is dying from the inside out.
>>29687985
>I really need to lose some weight and gain some muscle
tfw started wearing tanktops like pic related to highlight to myself how much belly I'm getting and how pathetic my arms are
tfw it's kind of working
>>29681504
Is this a new thing now, not having children due to a pessimistic view of our future? Fuck
>>29688407
Nope. It's been around quite awhile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism
>>29684793
You're fucking awesome
>>29683810
>few years later and it's like I know nearly with complete certainty no matter what I do there's no way to have a decent life.
You mean for you to have a decent life? Cus I can imagine lives that are way better than non existence and that are strong enough to beat existential angst
>>29687326
Get a source of money to pay rent (AKA a job), look at apartment listings, contact people to setup a viewing for ones you like. I had to view about 6 or 7 because of faggots wanting to jew you for tiny little shitboxes or the places were just disgusting. Once you've found the place you want, don't dick around filling out an application, talk directly to the landlord and tell him you're willing to put the money down now. Always pay by cheque so it's traceable, never give cash. They'll make you sign a lease which has the terms of the rental on it. That's about it.
These are the steps I used at 24 to get a large 2br main floor really cheap.
>>29688325
Good idea, but it will also be reminding me of my gyno for which I won't be able to save up enough money in the next few years.
>>29685025
Mechanic fag here. I have chronic pain in a lot of my joints. I just accept it and move on. As long as I can move, I just keep going.
Gut pain is killer though. I have it sometimes. I would seriously evaluate your diet if you haven't. Could be related. I wish you luck.
26 years old here.
After so many years of school, I finally have a career going and just bought a place. I guess life isn't so bad, but I did have a lot of help from my mother.
Now, I want GF. Problem is, I basically have zero personality. Fun, right?
Pic non-related; just my hobby.
>>29684193
I can't ignore my innate biology anon
>>29688680
Certainly a good advise unless you live in a high COL area. For example, SF.
A robot will have a hard time finding a room in SF. Unless you make around 80k, you can forget about your own place in SF. You have to live with roommates. However, the housing market here is so competitive that you pretty much need to be a chad to get a room. Every room opening with a reasonable price gets hundreds of applications and people who bring in roommates can screen them as much as they want because they can. And the chances that a robot will be selected among hundreds of qualified applicants is sooooooo low.
>>29688699
26 and I know that feel. I don't even know how to get the personality. Do they sell it at Target?
>>29687048
you're right man. to me it isn't even about the wound from the bite. I'll be ok eventually. the wound will heal and the pain will fade. its the fact that she's treating me like shit for daring to be bitten by her dog! I can't trust her.
>>29683373
I've had sex with both virgins and non-virgins and desu I preferred the latter. Ofc the former turned into the latter. All I'm saying is women are more fun in bed once they've had enough experience to know what they are doing, but not too much experience to ever love anyone again or consider anyone good enough again. It's a fine line seemingly. You want to be number 1-6 or so I think.
>>29685068
It seems Gucci cus you're a loser and that's what you like doing. One day it will hit you like a bag of rocks that you're a loser who contributed nothing and felt nothing special
27 y/o here
People younger than me keep getting gayer and more lobotomized by the minute, people my age are all married and fully cucked, people older than me are bluepilled af and sit around watching sports and laughing at shit comedy.
My 20's are coming to an end, hair is falling out, and I'm still for all intents and purposes a NEET with an inheritance that just has to pretend to work or go to school till my parents die.
>>29688936
Love how people with no social life judge the younger generation. As if you know what they're really doing.
>>29688798
After going through numerous dates on OKC/Tinder or whatever, I just realized that I really fucking suck.
>>29689063
Well, then the real question is why chad doesn't suck and you do.
>>29688799
dog bitten anon here again
wanted to add that she knew her dog gets aggressive around strangers but she didn't bother to kennel it or put it on a leash the first time I met it? I had no warning. she opened the door, dog lunged and my hand was bleeding. I had no time to react, no indication that I was about to be bitten. and she is blaming me for "trying to get the family dog taken away" ? are you fucking kidding me? too many dog owners out there that don't train them well. and then they turn around and say "I dindu nothin" when their dog attacks someone. if you can't handle the responsibility and the consequences of neglecting the responsibility, then don't get a fucking dog! goddamnit I'm so pissed off right now!
How many hours of professional driving instruction should I go through prior to taking the lisence test? I'm 27 and never driven before in my life.
>31
>$9979 in credit card debt
>Roughly the same in education debt but it only adjust with inflation, no interest
>No completed degree despite that debt
>Shit tier job which I've been at for over 8 years
>Haven't had sex with someone who isn't a prostitute for 7 years
>Alcoholic - cut back the last few weeks. Looking to quit very soon
>No close friends, some people in my life would wall consider me a friend but for all intents and purpose they're just people I know. I see most of them probably three times a year max.
>No fulfilling hobbies or interests - all my free time is devoted to shitposting, watching sitcom re-runs or familiar movies and getting drunk alone
This is not what I expected my life to be. I really need to incorporate significant changes into my life and as soon as possible. There's so many things wrong with my life though.
>>29686678
Your gf sounds awful. Self-righteous and refusing to communicate. Envision that attitude if you ever end up negotiating a divorce with her. She sounds like she would destroy you.
>>29689411
exactly and I don't want to put myself in that position.
you know, /r9k/ likes to whine about
>tfw no gf
but I think a lot of anons don't understand the bad sides of having a gf.
>>29688915
LOL. This is the dumbest shit I have ever seen. I went to a top 5 school, made >250k a year in the tech industry, whatever, and look NOBODY is important. Even the large-scale business owners I've met alluded to not feeling particularly important in the grand scheme of things. One just sold out after competitive conditions changed-- does that make him a "loser"? You are absolutely retarded if you think that anything you do will ever 'matter' to human history, and anyway we're just a thin organic reaction layer on one of a hundred billion random planets in one of a hundred billion galaxies. Get over yourself.
>>29682973
So...
You're implying it'll get better?
Deer gawd I hope so
Anyway, I think 25 is a good oportunity to get my shit together.
It feels like "oh shit I've been wasting my life and I'm getting old, either I get my shit together or I start preparing the retirement plan
I'll do both, juss in case.
Actually this is the year I decided my retirement plan, feels good because no strings attached
>>29689524
Life is mostly struggle and suffering and working much too hard for much too little. Particularly for men in the modern world. Technology isn't making it much better at this point either, except for corporations.
>>29689221
>I really need to incorporate significant changes into my life and as soon as possible.
You can begin today, and it's great that you're not so far gone you don't believe you can change.
Also, enjoyed your writing.
>>29689770
you're right and I've worked too damn hard to get out of NEETdom and live on my own and be somewhat financially solvent to potentially throw it all away for some pussy.
>>29689850
g...guys? can I be a robot again? or is it too late for me :/
>>29689908
I believed the gf hype and it bit me... quite literally...
>>29689218
Get the fuck away and let the dumb cunt get ripped up by her dog.
>26
>live with my mom
>NEET
I'm applying to grad school, but I don't think I'll get accepted. It seems like the universe wants to fuck me over every chance it gets.
>>29690012
don't worry I deleted her number
>mfw the fucking stupid dog probably bites the animal control guys when they come to quarantine it and the mongrel gets euthanized
>>29689957
Seriously fuck that bitch. Dump her ass asap and press charges/impound the dog for bonus round.
>>29690133
Im not gonna press charges (even though I pretty much have a slam dunk case). but Im done with her. and yeah hope that fucking dog gets euthanized. fucker is lucky he let go of my hand and she kenneled him before he got my steel toe boots right in the face.
>>29690187
I would have her at least pay for the medical bill.
>>29690221
eh I should but her family is having a hard time right now because her mom had a bad accident and is damn near a vegetable. I got insurance and the antibiotics only cost me a 5 dollar copay besides my insurance bill.
I may be mad but Im not heartless.
>>29689809
>You can begin today, and it's great that you're not so far gone you don't believe you can change.
I genuinely believe every person is capable of change regardless of the age or situation. The problem is most problems are created by bad habits that have become instilled in our daily routines to the point that change becomes more and more difficult with each passing year. We just become so set in our ways. For most things it truly is never too late, it will just be a shitload harder for you to force yourself to make the uncomfortable but necessary habits into your routine to change.
>Also, enjoyed your writing.
Why?
I'm going to drink myself unconscious tonight
That's how I'm holding up, OP. There's your answer
>>29690260
>tfw it's Sunday so I can't get too drunk
Got a six pack of pic related and just cracked the first. Will get me through to dinner time at which point I'll eat a meal waaay too big so that my stomach become so full I no longer desire booze.
>>29681293
31 here
thanks for being older than me sempai
hey I just want to say thanks for being here guys, and if no one else does, I sure as hell appreciate you. it might not mean much but good luck to all of you with your various situations. cheers
>>29684220
>this world is evil
This
Seriously we were put on this Earth to suffer
There is absolutely no fucking hope because it is our destiny. It will never get any better.
>>29690866
>we were put on this Earth to suffer
Get over the victim complex. We weren't put on this Earth by anything. Through any extraordinary set of circumstances life germinated on this planet and through millions of years we became creatures lucky enough to have sentience. Just because we're intelligent doesn't mean we're owed any special existence. The universe is harsh and uncaring. It has no interest in your life and you sure as hell wasn't designed for to suffer. Just to exist. Be thankful you're smart enough to comprehend it. This gives you a chance for roughly 80 years to seek out and partake in the things you enjoy before you inevitably die. Life as a person isn't some journey or ordeal. It's honestly as a bonus. Just enjoy what you can while you can. Everything else is meaningless.
>>29690246
> but her family is having a hard time right now because her mom had a bad accident and is damn near a vegetable.
Lollllllll life is suffering all around. "Life's a bitch and then you die." It's about enough to become a Buddhist.
>>29683810
I know exactly what you mean anon
Every year I age the worse it gets. It's drilled into our heads every fucking day that we don't belong in this wretched world.
All we can do is minimize the amount of suffering that we have to endure during our time here
>>29690979
heh Buddhism? just as a shit as all the rest of the religions. not trying to fedora tip here but:
"be good to have good karma and eventually be reincarnated into nothingness"
>18
>going to start college soon for biochem
>planning on going to med school right after
Other than my mom forcing me to go to work over the summer, I'm doing pretty good.
>>29690260
Underrated post. I used to be able to do that with 3 or 4 shots, many years ago. It takes quite a lot more than that now. Most of the time I just sip vodka like Aquafina these days. My liver has gotten much faster, too. On the bright side, the cheaper kinds taste about as good to me as the more expensive ones.
> Inb4 dead by 50
It will be a pleasant surprise, honestly. I used to have things that I wanted to live for, but they were all illusions and mirages and what's left isn't worth fighting for.
>>29691035
aka you can never feel good, your only choices are eternal suffering or not existing. yeah. real uplifting.
>>29691069
son, leave here and never come back. it's for your own good.
>>29690942
>Everything else is meaningless except for the things I say aren't meaningless.
How do you get to 25 and not get your life in check?
You had all that time
So many failed normies itt.
>>29691132
life doesn't care if you have your shit "in check".
you think everything is going ok, and then in a moment it is all destroyed.
obviously it is good to try to keep it together, but never take for granted that it could be annihilated in a second.
>>29691035
Nono just the parts about recognizing that suffering is about attachment to impermanent things. I could hardly care less about notions of an afterlife when identity and memory obviously die with the brain or ham-handed attempts at social reputation tracking. But I do sometimes feel like a prince who renounced futile attempts at materialistic fulfillment. I'm probably going to end up making more money anyway; at this point the stuff in my head is worth too much and companies want it. I just don't care anymore. It's complicated.
>>29691122
>Everything else is meaningless except for the things I say aren't meaningless.
>Just enjoy what you can while you can. Everything else is meaningless.
Victim complex again. The quote makes it clear that the things which make each individual happy are what gives their life meaning and everything else is not.
I guess whining is what gives your life meaning.
>>29691101
I can't it's like crack at this point. I'll try and stop when I start college.
>>29691172
hey fuck you bud. who made you King of /r9k/, Majestic Decider of Normieness? go fuck youself bitch
>>29691132
I was destined for success from 21-23. I thought life was going to be so easy. It managed to get away from me without me even realising and before I knew it I'd wasted 5 years of my life.
Life is not as easy as you think it's going to be, kid.
>>29691199
STOP NOW OR YOU WILL NEVER STOP
DAMN IT MAN I'M TRYING TO SPARE YOU OUR FATE
>>29681604
>often flipping between day and night shift mid-week or even multiple times
It's fucking irresponsible of law makers that this shit is acceptable for humans. If an animal was exposed to this torture, environmentalists would surely make a scene. It really shows how much the ruling class cares about the peasants.
>>29681610
>no money
>get married
No sympathies here.
>>29691181
enjoy the money friend, most don't have it. and I'm not saying that facetiously. if you can, go and fucking get it dude! anyone in the position to should.
>27 in fall
>no degree
>no meaningful job history, mainly bullshit manual labor temp positions I worked for a few months at a time
>no job
>never even been close to losing my virginity
>haven't had a friend in almost a decade now, can't remember the last time I "went out" for recreation
I don't give a shit anymore. I played the hand I was dealt and was promptly destroyed at the game of life. But at least I can say I played those cards with everything I had, at least I can die knowing I tried.
I feel bad for you failed norms who will suffer for many long decades yet.
>>29681629
Get on antidepressants so you can wageslave more efficiently.
>>29691069
You forgot
>doesn't know how to read
Fuck off retard
>>29681660
Change your name so people will think you are a Chad.
>>29691329
I am afraid of side effects
>>29691172
Mmm I remember a conversation with an older colleague and the owner of the company. He said "you know, in the last 10 years I've written a lot of code and had a few kids". His wife and boss completely controlled his life and he was religious on top of that. If that's success I don't fucking want it.
>>29690942
It's not a victim complex anon. It's an accurate and objective assessment of reality.
>>29690260
OP here. Also struggling with alcoholism. The only time I can ever feel somewhat happy is when I drink.
>>29691275
capitalism is a cruel master.
hey and I'm not saying communism is better, drfonetly not, but maybe the right way to run society hasn't been figured out yet. and maybe it will never be figured out.
I mean think about it. the goal in running a company is to make money at all cost. fuck efficiency and using natural resources in the most efficient way, and fuck taking care of your employees unless OSHA says something about it.
think of all the food thrown away because its "too old to sell" and all the big houses sitting unoccupied while people live on the streets. resources are wasted in the pursuit of money. and if you don't have the money and own the company you are at the mercy of those who do.
>>29690942
Fuck-off, demiurge-kun
>>29691406
>tfw turned to alcohol because finding marijuana requires being friends with people who know how to find it
a...at least I'm not breaking the law anymore right guys?
Not 25 but 23. I recently graduated with a Bachelors College degree in Liberal arts or "general music studies". Its obviously not going to get me a job really so I have contemplated going back to school to do engineering. I suck at math and am considering practicing at it and reading books and I never expressed an interest in building things but I want to do engineering for the money. Don't know what I should do but I don't want to work retail the rest of my life. I'd rather work a career with a valuable useful skill like engineering.
>>29691433
Even if you own the company you are at the mercy of blind faceless economic forces and global price volatility and the constant unending war against every single one of your competitors. Yes, you will be personally more economically secure. Economics will also force you to do terrible things to people and crush your dreams and keep you working all day every day of the week and ruin your ability to even appreciate all the pointless crap you can buy now. 'Oh a bigger house to impress my mercenary status-seeking 'friends' and wife who would divorce me if I ever stumbled.' There is little to no escape.
>>29691477
Buy it on a darknet market. They're actually a godsend for we the socially inept.
>>29691529
>there is little to no escape
death?
can't take the money with you. in that depressing way we are all equal. well until the super rich figure out immortality and become gods. while the rest of us die.
>>29691544
sounds sketchy dude. they can track us you know.
>>29691515
Sure you want to do engineering? It's gonna be tough though. You can try accounting as an alternative. Just go to a year long Master's program, study your ass off, get recruited by someone way before you graduate. You don't really need to know anything, most training is on the job.
Any 25+ neets?
>>29691544
ALSO no recourse if they take muh money and mail me oregano.
maybe I should just move to a legal state...
>>29687853
>taking out your emotions in traffic
At least you learned it is not a good idea.
>>29691363
There are treatments for side effects. Trust your good doctor.
>>29690541
Thanks anon I appreciate you too
Honestly posting here has been the most intimate human connection I have ever experienced
>>29691581
>>29691630
I've done it plenty of times with no issues. Use ones that encrypt messages, tumble bitcoins through multiple wallets before hitting the market deposit address, use a fake name at your address, and always do your homework on checking out the vendors. Never finalize-early (FE); use escrow. The system works, overall. You just have to be smart about it. If it's for personal use no one cares anyway. Dealing is another matter entirely and requires far more caution; no experience with that personally.
>>29688693
Thanks. I've tried changing my diet so far but to no effect. I eat healthy. I'll be starting a new diet soon with the doc's help.
This is the first time I've had a long term health problem and it really freaks me out sometimes. Worries I'm not going to get better and this is how the rest of my life is going to go. It wasn't going very well to begin with.
I will spend all night tossing and turning trying to get comfortable and then I have to get up and go to work. After 3 or 4 days in a row like that, I'm running on empty, totally on autopilot. I consider myself a pretty tough guy, not in the strong sense but in my ability to put up with shit. But some days lately I feel straight morbid, wondering how the fuck I am going to keep going.
>>29691660
brother I feel you.
we probably will never know each other for real. but that's the beauty of anonymity; posting what you feel without fear of personal judgement. sure people may disagree, or just troll you, but it doesn't matter because nobody will ever know it was you that said that.
anons gotta stick together as best as we anonymously can right? fuck all the negativity. as if we don't already have enough problems and stress.
>>29691653
Actually the sexual side effects are virtually untreatable and can be permanent. So are the 'brain zaps'. Don't use normal SSRIs. Look into Wellbutrin and Mirtazepine if you want ones less likely to fuck you up permanently. But don't expect more than feeling a bit less pain; for most people they don't make you feel happy per se. Also 5-HTP and SAM-e (take with a B vitamin) have been shown to be about as effective as SSRIs with literally no side effects. But it's still a subtle thing.
>>29691132
physical defects and deformities, motherfucker. Give me 40 years and nothing would change no matter how hard I try
should I cry because I'll never have a gf?
A part of me wants to cry
But another part of me just tells me to accept it
And not to give a fuck.
I hold to the latter because I havent been able to cry in years.
And because it'll probably be more painful if I let it take over
I'd rather just hold it.
Tell myself it's not important
tell myself I've accepted my loneliness and inability to have a girl
Because I never will anyway.
I mean... after all, it IS a waste of resources. I have other stuff to think about anyway
And I'd rather just give up the whole idea
I want to cry
>>29691711
not interested in dealing either for sure.
but it seems simpler for me to just move to a different state than do all that darknet sneaky mumbo jumbo.
>>29691711
Granted, you have to take into account the fact that I have suicidal tendencies and some of this is just me wanting to try various things before I go. If I ever got arrested and charged for something (I have yet to see any significant number of cases of this happening to mere customers) I could just off myself at that point. It really doesn't matter. Heads I win, tails I disappear like I likely would have anyway. It's very liberating. Really they should be grateful I haven't decided to use it for more political ends.
I feel like drinking
but if I start drinking over loneliness I'll get addicted.
I should stop smoking too before it becomes an addiction
I think I'm going to throw this tobacco away tomorrow or something
It's getting to the point where I feel like smoking out of nowhere.
Ima throw it right away because I have no one to give it to.
>>29691809
don't get a gf
or do
and then maybe you will understand that it isn't as great as it seems.
NEVER rely on others for happiness. especially a woman. it will hurt you even worse and you will end up alone again but in a worse situation than you already are.
how's that Yes song go? "Owner of a lonely heart, much better than the owner of a broken heart"?
>>29691733
>Worries I'm not going to get better and this is how the rest of my life is going to go.
I know that feel. I was perfectly healthy until I hit 30 and now I'm 31 and every time I think I've gotten one chronic pain or injury healed, two more pop up. I feel like this is what it's going to be like now, just a long, slow downhill slide of ever increasing pain and misery.
And I spent a lot of time wishing I was dead when I was young and healthy and pain free. I don't think I'm going to last long if I have to deal with all the old shit plus everything hurts all the time.
>>29691852
>or do
I am terrified of that
I've had experiences with girls already.
I spent a couple years of my life wanting to get a gf
it's exhausting and women are fucking crazy.
My rational side knows not to even try anymore
But, as much as I like loneliness, sometimes it backfires on me and it feels... well...
fuck I want to cry and still can't
>>29691864
my mentality is, no matter the situation, KEEP GOING until you die in a horribly painful pool of blood or something crazy like that. life is a bitch yes, but if you give up that bitch wins. don't give that cunt the sastisfaction.
>>29691900
the lonely will never go away brother it is hard coded into our DNA
the issue is that technology and society has evolved faster than we have. relationships are not beneficial to men in this age of chaos.
fight the lonely. fight the hunger. the thirst. do what you can to improve your own situation, and don't be selfish, but don't let anyone take advantage of you. ESPECIALLY not a woman.
>>29691901
There is no one trying to win. The universe does not care about winning. It will eventually end in everything falling into black holes and then the black holes evaporating into a sea of photons and ultimately heat death and perhaps a 'big rip'. It's just a big mathematical system evolving according to increasingly well-understood physical laws. It does not care whether or not you decide to fight.
>>29691940
y-you too
foam
Probably going to jail soon, still a virgin. What bothers me the most is that I am terribly ugly to the point that I am uncomfortable being around people because I know how it offends some people. I never wanted to participate in society, and now I am being shoved out of it. I'm totally reserved in the idea of lashing out now, no other response seems to strike a cord with me. If people just left me alone I would have been totally different. Pic very related.
>>29691956
ok so do whatever nothing matters
I can accept that
>>29691962
hang in there man. just don't put yourself in a bad position because lonely. I know it might be hard to understand but its not worth it.
Official theme song of these threads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNC1fZD8Ww
I just turned 24. Only now I'm realizing just how close I am to being 25+ robot. I remember few years ago when I was like 21 thinking I will never come to it. And here I am now, just a year away.
>>29691964
are you going to jail for drunk driving? or am I misreading the situation?
>tfw trying to comfort anons as best I can in the face of a horribly cruel uncaring existence and skepticism, fatalism, and defeatism
I can't believe I'm the guy trying to give a pep talk. maybe it's because it somehow makes me feel a bit better about my own situation? or then again maybe I'm just retarded.
goddamnit I tried.
>>29692063
>skepticism, fatalism, and defeatism
These things make sense.
>>29692102
also nihilism
lots of depressing isms
>>29692023
I can relate
thanks
utopia
maybe we just embrace the darkness?
fuck why do I have to be optimistically pessimistic? or is it pessimistic optimism?
>>29692063
if you're the anon who responded to my loneliness
you were actually helpful and I should thank you.
Else, it's okay anon, your effort is noted
>>29692173
if it even made you feel one iota better at all, then my mission is complete.
>>29692191
Not him but don't you understand? Only way to make us feel better is make us ignore the shitty reality. But if you have to ignore realtiy to feel happy then you're not really happy.
>>29692053
I'm on a plea bargain and probation, I will be violating it very soon because I cannot renew my ignition interlock device. I cannot afford it, I've tried to get more loans but I cannot because I'm already in the hole $12k. The device alone costs $110 a month. As long as I own an operate a vehicle, I must have the device installed. In order to remove the device, I must first sell the car and the leased device together to somebody else, as long as the title is in my name I must have the device installed. In order for somebody to possess the title of the car, they must buy my device lease. I literally can't even scrap my vehicle, nobody wants to buy it. This is why I have decided that I will not be going to jail, I will give everybody a taste of what its like to be completely fucked for no good reason.
>>29692204
ah escapism my old friend
drugs
alcohol
fapping
videya
hell even 4chan
pick your poison
>>29692023
This is so excellent. Saved for indefinite posterity.
>>29692191
I had noone to talk to at all.
Robots don't really care about my shit because they have their own shit to deal with.
Being listened to and given a pat on the back
Thanks anon, it did help.
I usually have no one to talk to
>>29692239
There is a difference between these things and what guys who try to "help" on r9k usually do. They actually want us to ignore reality.
If you for example drink (like I do) then you're not ignoring reality. You're just drinking to cope, but you're not ignoring anything. You're not sticking your head into the sand like the ignorant normies.
>>29692251
man we all have our own problems but you know, maybe if we at least listen to each others problems, you know, share opinions, even if that opinion is wrong, even if we can't really offer concrete solutions, then maybe we can at least help each other feel a little bit better. and maybe that little boost in mood can help us solve those problems. its not much I know but its all we got. I know it helps me to hear outside opinions at least. sometimes when you're deep in the shit you get so caught up in it that you can't think straight and it takes an unbiased outside observer to give you a little bit of clarity.
>>29684274
>>29684328
Same here. I'm 30 and I still fap when I wake up and then fap before bed.
Sometimes if I'm stressed a noon fap too.
No matter how often I do laundry I can't keep my black socks from getting crusty, there's just not enough time
>>29691454
That guy refuted a creator. He said the universe just doesn't care about you and isn't out to get you.
>>29692233
Make sure to accurately identify the root of the problem when acting to eliminate it. Godspeed anon. Our economy is utterly broken in places.
>>29692233
I don't understand how they get away with shit like that. But killing people is stooping to their level of shittiness.
>>29691132
I had my life in check and then fucked it all up.
You can ruin your life as well as just "not make it."
>>29692337
39, still do it 4-5 times per day at least.
>tfw women would rather complain about their beta providers not fucking them right and fucking Chads behind their back and fuck themselves with horse dildos and fuck dudes who need viagra to get it up instead of just fucking me
:(
>>29692278
I know the "drink to forget" thing man. if Im honest Im drinking right now.
but I think what separates robots from normies is not virginity status, ot NEET status or whatever, but just the gall to criticize others while not admitting your own problems. nobody real can relate to "Mr. Perfect". anyone who thinks they are that, perfect, is lying to everyone, and most importantly, themselves.
>>29692415
How is what you said related to what I said? I honestly don't at all understand.
Waitibg for my parents to die so i can die.
tfw strangers on the internet is all i have
even if this place can get toxic, I can talk to you guys and we can sort of relate.
I hope I'm not the only one trying though, I can only help and listen people who are willing to give it a try.
>>29692431
you were talking about the usual/r9k/ "helper" trying to tell anons to ignore reality and how doing things like getting drunk to cope is not ignoring but coping unlike normies who stick their heads in the sand
and I'm saying do whatever it takes to get you through and cope but just make sure that doesn't make you end up in a worse situation than the one you were trying to cope with in the first place. sorry if that doesn't make sense
>>29692480
yeah it can get toxic but I feel its somehow less toxic than "the real world"
>>29684454
Sounds like me and I'm 30.
>>29692449
don't rely on others to die DIE NOW!
heh the usual easy cop out edginess aside I hope you can get in a better place.
>>29684454
No NO THAT's IMPOSSIBLE!
>>29681293
32 here. You win Magemaster Wizard sir.
>>29683373
>28
>falling into the virgin meme
WEEEEWWWW LADDD
>>29692415
Drinking is a normie activity
>>29692750
ok
King of Robots what is an acceptable activity?
tfw you browsed 4chan at around age 15 underaged, now 26 and people consider you an oldfag
>>29689014
What makes you think he has no social life?
>>29692480
>trying
a bit vague. I think we all "try" in some way. even though the results don't seem to show it.
>>29692828
could be the fact that he's posting here.
let's be real guys, none of have a social life. and if I'm wrong in your case and generalizing too much, and you do, then what the fuck are you doing here?!
I swear every year goes by faster and faster. I can't believe I'm already 25.
It felt like I was 20 not too long ago.
If any younger people are going through this thread and have some problems, take care of them now. Get yourself on the right track as soon as you can so you don't become one of us.
>>29685132
>getting laid again
Norpers out
27 turning 28 here. My life is somewhere lost in space and time. Currently live at home, had a place but it sucked, and i hate this state and city. (I live in New York...) I'm the oldest in the house outside of my junkie brother and kid sister. Finished school about 5 years ago for something i've wanted to pursue and still am trying to pursue since. I've had more failures than successes and still going at it. Family is dysfunctional to the point of no return. Friends are few and far in between. For the last year or so i've been in a situation where i found myself working a job I hate, only to go to a home i'm not fond of. Yet in all of this 'lack of privacy' I'm quite lonely. I've had a few girlfriends and good deal of dates, but none of them worked out. Almost got married once and was going to move to Canada. She was insane though and wanted kids, so fuck that noise. Last time i got laid was 2 years ago, before that was about 3 or 4 years ago. Last time i had GOOD sex was near a decade ago...
About week ago i royal screwed up with a girl i had met on a dating site. Only knew her less than a month too! Wound up having a nervous breakdown/panic attack and said some things to her i didn't mean. Kind of went off the tracks after that. My paranoia had me thinking the worst, based on the last couple of relationships i had. I tried apologizing to her after that, but she wouldn't have it. So i gave up and have been kind of turned off to the whole dating thing. (Wish i could say that for my sex drive at times...) Hadn't had a breakdown/panic attack that bad, since my old man past away about 7 years ago. My life was in very different place around that time too, when that happened. Damn shame it had to happen again and cost someone... I really liked this one too.
Welp, the point i'm getting at is i'm still pushing through. I'm going to keep trying for something better. Shoot for goals and all that other shit for what its worth. I just hope i hold out long enough...
26 and Im in purgatory maybe.
24 was my best year, I was a real hedonist then, I drank a lot of beers, fucked a few women, made a bit of money, got a bunch of funny stories.
25 I fell for the grown up relationship meme.
26, living with my parents, criminal record for domestic violence, black out drunk most days, trying to finish some shitty online degree before the cut off date so I didnt waste all that money.
In about a month I start a course that gets me a new university entry mark, I honestly have no idea how well I'll do in the studies and talking to people who never had the shit run I had the last few years.
For the first time in my life I am worried about everything, I never finish anything, have an amazing ability to fuck things up in new and exciting ways, and just generally fail at life.
but im not a virgin and can drive a car, so people tell me I dont belong here either.
>>29690353
Poor wagecuck, can't drink whenever you want.
>>29686678
Yeah man, drop all three bitches. The Dog, The Girlfriend and The Government... Don't need any of that.
>>29693338
I can at least drop 2 out of 3. the girl and the dog.
>>29693189
NEETs and KVs call those who have have jobs and touched a woman "normies" to feel better about themselves. it's a pissing contest. a race to the bottom. the biggest loser wins. just like the feminazi SJW oppression olympics.
>>29693389
No one said the third one was going to be the easiest to drop. I have faith you can do it anon.
>>29693498
one man alone cannot drop that big bitch.
>>29681566
I hope you get laid anon.
>>29681218
I'm only 20 but I feel like its already over. I don't feel anything anymore except detachment or depression. Fuck.
>babbys cannot read
what part of 25+ don't you understand?
>>29684298
End it.
Original comment
>>29695098
>babby's first existential crisis
25+ thread only
DELETE THIS
REEEEEEEE etc.
>>29681566
I hope you get laid anon
If that does not go well, then I hope RNG gods give you some good stats and spells when you become wizard
>>29686340
You're jerkin' it way too much, brother.
>25
>still working in a dead-end shit produce job with fucking Indian spastics that can't do shit properly.
>fucked up the only relationship I ever cared about 6 years ago, lonely as fuck ever since.
>finished graduate diploma in communications, I fucking hate all that shit. Didn't fucking absorb shit from my undergrad arts degree and postgrad course despite having a %70 grade average
>haven't even bothered with getting my testimur because i got fucked around with trying to receive it in person instead of attending graduation.
>offered stuff in a graduate program from neighbor who works in the company's HR department but got depressed and useless so i just laid in bed since January and now avoid my neighbor.
>parents and friends all have written me off a a piece of shit, stopped attending parties and shit i get invited to because I don't want to explain that I feel like fucking killing myself everyday.
I really can't take much more of this guys, I'm never going to make it.
>>29691132
It's really not a lot of time.
>>29681218
seeing posts from so many people in the same situations as me actually makes me feel better about my shitty life. i just have to keep my mind busy and soon enough ill be dead and nothing i do has any consequence in the grand scheme of things. feels ok.
29, I'll sum my life in one over-posted image. It never felt real. Never felt like real life up until this point. I'm not sure what if anything can be salvaged at this point.
Obligated to take care of mum as she ages, plus there's anime and video games which I can still childishly play all day long when given the opportunity, so there's no reason to suicide. It'll go fast enough on its own.
Without family, I think it'll make sense though to just Nembutal it around age 65 once taking care of day to day tasks starts to become difficult.
>>29696731
there is beauty in honesty.
>>29696731
I will definitely end up like this guy but it doesn't bother me
I never dated, I have yet to have my first kiss but I'm not a piece of shit who does nothing all day, so what if I make it to 60 and start regretting everything? Life post 60 is shit anyways
28 years old. Life advice just seems hilarious now. Apparently I just need to go work out, eat healthy, and have a hobby, and everything will improve. I'm almost 30, do you really think I've never tried that?
At some point you just realize you're fundamentally defective.
>tfw invited to yet another wedding
>>29697232
Nobody ever told you that you couldn't fuck up your life beyond remedy. Take responsibility for your own shortcomings and maybe there is something left you can salvage
>>29681218
>turning 25 this year
>friendless NEET virgin
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>29697280
I think it would be better to die than struggle for mediocrity.
>>29696731
What is that image from?
>>29697340
You are already there friendo
Die now and you will be remembered as poor missis Stevenson, she had to put up with a mentally challenged son up until her 60s, at least now that he is dead we can all feel relief that she can age in peace
2 weeks away from 26 here.
Even though I'm a cyborg (reformed extrovert with robot roots), I just want to not work any more. I'm over it, and I want a new adventure in life.
>>29692023
Wow how haven't I seen this before. Thanks Anon-san.
>>29697232
defective in what way? have there been no improvements whatsoever?
>>29683555
>Who gave you the orders to think yourself into unhappiness?
The little gems of wisdom of you robots.
>>29683555
>think yourself into unhappiness?
Some of us are simply unhappy because we cant fulfill our instinctual desire to have sex and a social life. Being a distracted non-NEET helps for some robots but its not enough.
>>29697564
No nothing has improved. There's this attractive idea that if you set small, measurable goals, you can gradually improve yourself, forming good habits and building on your success until you are a happy, healthy, successful person. If you falter, you simply reevaluate your approach, perhaps break the goal into more manageable steps. But what if it just doesn't work? Even the most simple of tasks is too much for you to maintain. Those critical days when you feel self doubt, with a full understanding of the price of failure you decide you don't care and stay in bed for 16 hours. You can't rely on yourself to be motivated, to be consistent, or to care. There's no hope for someone like that.
>>29697845
If I understand correctly it isn't that *doing* those things didn't improve anything for you, but that you couldn't bring yourself to do them consistently and build new habits.
This is a struggle I have.
>>29685135
mate i like your attitude but honestly you do seem like an idiot
everything is meaningless so you being an idiot doesn't really matter at all, i'm just saying
I am a 26 year old virgin and I am seriously considering seeing an escort.
Should I do this?
I have accepted that it's not going to "just happen" for me and that I need to take drastic steps.
>>29687245
Well guess what, you don't belong here. Stop posting. Fuck off.
>>29698093
why
t.original
>>29698124
What do you mean "why"? It has never happened so far. I've just accepted I'm different. I am not the kind of person who just gets laid.
>>29697978
That's correct yes. The response you'll get to that is to try harder, stop feeling sorry for yourself and take responsibility for your life.
>>29698167
>jus stop feeling sorry for yourself
lol
>>29698205
just b yourself, dummy
>>29698205
As I said, I find life advice pretty funny. It simply doesn't fit into the worldview of people that not everyone is capable of succeeding.
>>29681566
>he thinks it's about getting laid
you're never gonna make it kid
>>29698205
>>29698225
>>29698275
>when the normie fascists take over we'll all be sent to reeducation centers where "just be yourself" blares over the megaphone on repeat all day
How to make friends please. :(
>>29698205
Anyone notice that all this kind of advice is nothing but "just stop feeling x and feel y instead" or variations thereof
It's like they are machines that can simply press a switch to change their mental state
Perhaps, ironically, they are robots, and that's why they all fit in so well and have such full lives - it's all just programmed in, they're spawned into the world with everything automatically assigned to them: friends, job, personality etc. And we are real people, genuinely sentient, sapient, conscious beings who don't have an auto-pilot, we're not self-driving cars, we have to do everything ourselves and that's why we fail.
>>29698397
>Perhaps, ironically, they are robots, and that's why they all fit in so well and have such full lives - it's all just programmed in, they're spawned into the world with everything automatically assigned to them: friends, job, personality etc. And we are real people, genuinely sentient, sapient, conscious beings who don't have an auto-pilot, we're not self-driving cars, we have to do everything ourselves and that's why we fail.
Is this really news to you? Yes, of course it's like that. Everyone knows it. You're dealing with pod people dude.
>>29698397
when a normie says "just be yourself", what they're really saying is "i can't imagine anybody's situation being different to my own, so just be like me, which i assume is the same thing as being yourself".
>>29698430
this recent trend of people saying "dude" really gets on my nerves.
>>29698167
Have you always been this way?
I'm probably not as much of a lost cause, as there are certain things I can get myself to do. E.g. playing a sport every week. In the beginning (years ago) it was really hard to make myself go there - I wasn't consistent whatsoever.
>>29698146
Why is it so important to have fucked someone?
>>29698337
1.find victim
2.blind with thumbs
3.force into friendship
4.do fun thing together.
>>29698450
Well you can fuck them in the ass, I've been saying dude since 1999.
>>29698488
>Why is it so important to have fucked someone?
Being a virgin is a source of a lot of self-consciousness for me.
30 years old here.
Never had a gf, fucked a few women i met through online dating. Never led to anything more.
Now its just wage slavery until death. Or at least until my parents die, then i'll kill myself probably.
I've accepted my fate. Luckily I found a job that I can keep smoking weed while doing, so I have that. I'll probably kill myself after my parents die but no solid plans yet.
I was really depressed for a while but now I'm kind of just going through the motions.
>>29687245
>having gf
>implying you are not a normie
Are you fucking retarded? Fuck off, you are not welcome here
>>29684817
Posting in an epic bread
TOP CHUCK
>>29698488
Yes. I never did my homework in school. I'd just stare at it until it was time for bed. I failed out of university since I didn't even go to class. My parents tried to put me in sports and I'd just get benched because I spaced out and didn't pay attention. I've never really bothered at socializing. I'm simply defective. Whatever other people have that allows them to engage in life I lack.
26 here
At the moment I work two jobs and together only really work 30-40 hours a week. But for the most part both my jobs are real comfy. I pay my rent on time and get by but i just don't really get to save to much money.
My room mates work over 50 hours a week and I hardly see them. I'm always home when there at work and I'm just scraping by. Feel like there going to kick me out since I'm home all day just shit posting and being in my room.
but I like this hunter gatherer life style. If I get the notice that I need to leave in 30 days I'm just gonna have to hit up craigslist and look around. I just really wish I made enough to afford a shitty one bedroom apartment with good internet.
>23 years old
>not kissless or virgin
>finishing uni
>stable job after i finish
>tfw no gf
>supporting family
>genius level IQ
ohh well could be worse
>>29698588
>30 years old here
>Now its just wage slavery until death. Or at least until my parents die, then i'll kill myself probably.
I thought about doing the same, but I have a brother with whom I get along really well. He has his own life though. If it weren't for him I'd probably same you
28 soon to be 29. It doesn't get any better.
>working on a government internship that will end soon
>plenty of education but not much work experience
>don't even know what I want to do anyway
>no gf and few friends
>still get nervous and anxious over stupid shit like a child
>older brother is very successful and getting married soon
All I want is to earn enough money so I can spend my nights drinking myself into oblivion.
>>29699570
Forgot to mention, still not over my oneitis after about almost eight years.
>>29681504
>ex
GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD NORMAL SCUM!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
>>29699400
>Feel like there going to kick me out since I'm home all day just shit posting and being in my room.
You sure that's not just robo paranoia? have they said explicitly that you should spend more time with them?
>>29699589
>8 years
jesus christ you autistic fuck i bet she doesnt even remember you
Is it to late to "fix" our life? Feels like I missed every single chance I ever had
>>29699589
>Forgot to mention, still not over my oneitis after about almost eight years.
More than a decade here. And she wasn't even attractive or nice or anything really.
This article just appeared on my news feed:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/11873700/Mens-happiness-in-later-life-is-determined-by-the-age-of-27.html?WTmcid=tmgoff_soc_spf_fb&WT.mc_id=sf30189184
>Men who fail to reach their early career goals by the age of 27 may experience a reduced sense of well-being and happiness in later life, new research suggests.
>>29681218
25 and still neet, friendos. Maybe I'll die this year.
>>29699754
Is this news to you or? You can't do shit after late 20s.
>>29681218
From the outside it looks my life is vastly improving year by year.
In reality I'm cutting back on everything to correct wild overspending of the past.
On the inside I'm feeling it's an uncontrolled downward spiral into an abyss with no escape. Each shred of dignity - or at least what I upheld as such - is being ripped away piece by piece.
It's an abstract feel to be dying inside whilst knowing you're doing the right thing for your future. It's like you're starving in a padded cylinder-shaped cell yelling your guts out.
>>29683887
Ex-legion here. If you want to ask anything, please do.
>>29684148
This is utter bullshit, anon. Americans have it harder, true, but the rest of your post is rubbish.
>>29699754
>>29699789
kill me
suicideblox
>>29699844
>Ex-legion here. If you want to ask anything, please do.
Do you prefer dick in the asshole or mouth?
>>29699789
It's just hard having your failure confirmed.
>>29699754
>Men are happier when their wives don't go out to work, study finds
>a stable and established career topped the list of factors conducive to male happiness
>female participants were found to be most satisfied and contented once they had reached a high level of education or experienced upward social mobility
>>29699844
Why are you an true hero??!
Orginlso
>>29699717
All is not lost. Not YET.
>>29699926
No, I am 27 years old. Unemployed, irresponsible, in debt and without any serious education or work experience. But I can give advice regarding joining the FFL.
getting a gf is the only way to escape 4chan
>>29699970
Don't have any specific questions but... do you have general advice? Is it worth it when you hit absolute rock bottom?
>>29699936
Absolute garbage transmog
>ME JUST GET LE TIER SET
>>29699620
Nah, I don't think they really want a friendship from me, it's just business. But yeah I think I'm pretty paranoid that they don't like me and would kick me out because they think I'm a wierdo.
But we all don't invade personal space. We just kinda do are own thing.
>>29699344
I'd say they don't feel irrelevant. At least that's how I would explain it for myself. When I'm disengaged I have a deep sense that any action I could take would be irrelevant and lead nowhere.
>>29700015
I think it is mostly worthy, when you hit the bottom. Because the strongest issue most of the people have is that breaking point after the basic, when your five-years contract is becoming irredeemable and you know you have to spent next five years there. When you have nothing (or worse) it is actually pretty simple choice.
Also if you are from America;
>When they ask about your previous jobs, always tell them you earned much less than you did in reality. They are looking for the people who will get better money in the legion.
>Don't learn French before joining. Or learn, but do not admit it. Francophones have it much harder, since they will have to take care about others non-french speaking.
>Be extremely humble, keep your mouth shut all the time and be always honest.
>Never lie to Gestapo interviewers.
>If you did any drugs before joining, don't bother.
>Learn ranks.
>Enlist directly in Aubagne, don't bother with Paris or any other recruitment places, it is a horrid waste of time.
>Know which regiment and why you want to join. Go for it from the beginning.
>NEVER enlist during winter or autumn, best is late spring or summer.
>>29697845
>hose critical days when you feel self doubt, with a full understanding of the price of failure you decide you don't care and stay in bed for 16 hours. You can't rely on yourself to be motivated, to be consistent, or to care. There's no hope for someone like that.
Thanks for that, I feel exactly the same. I don't want to be a loser, Iwant to change my life etc. but it seems like I'm physically incapable
Can any oldfags tell me what the would do in my situation?
I'm almost 23. Failed out of college multiple times because of bipolar disorder and social anxiety, (not because I was too stupid). Should I try and go back to college again in cocoon mode and just focus on getting a degree and graduate at 27 with a bachelor's, or should I just say fuck it and try to get a better job or start my own business without a degree now? I've got a shitty low paying job now but I think I could do better.
The main reason I'm not going back to community college right now is just because of the shame of the entry process where I have to explain all the W's and F's on my transcript. I know it's a shit reason, but I'm going to need some sort of motivation to get me past it.
>>29700513
Depends on how rich your family is.
That's a paranoia. Unless you live in a competitive housing market, having a roommate who minds his own business and pays rent on time is valuable. Because you never know who you are going to get instead.
>>29699523
you forgot
>superiority complex so big i can't resist going into a thread that's completely unrelated to me and bragging about myself
>>29700513
It's scary how similar our situations are. What were you studying and what do you want to study now?where do you live
>>29700513
Don't make the same mistake I did, I was in the same position as you and kept going back because I had my parents to fall back on. Give up college for the moment and look for a career. You don't need a college degree to make enough money to support yourself, don't let them tell you otherwise. Start looking into becoming an apprentice welder/electrician/pipe fitter/plumber/etc. Those guys you see driving around in white vans, yeah they don't have expensive suits but they make way more money than the majority of recent college grads.
>>29700536
Not very, neither of them ever broke six figures and my mother works part time, but they've lived frugally all their lives to save up so I could go to college, so I kind of feel like I'm wasting all their years of effort if I don't go. On the other hand, they could possibly invest in a business if I can convince them to. I wouldn't do anything glamorous, probably just get a home improvement license and a truck and do some painting and repairs and shit, maybe flip some houses, but it would at least be a living.
>>29700602
Was studying neuroscience but I never got through the mind numbing intro shit. If I went back I would probably go back for mechanical engineering.east coast of US
>>29700609
>>29700602 Here. I thought about getting into a trade, still unsure though. I got memed pretty hard into the university mindset
>>29700671
Then you obviously have money and support to fuck around and do nothing with your life, why would you even ask for advice here? Just to taunt losers like us who can't do one single thing from the options you have at your disposal?
>>29700513
>bipolar disorder and social anxiety
>or start my own business without a degree
are you sure you're smart enough for jewllege?
>>29698397
wow. I never thought of it like this. really makes you wonder.
>>29700777
I have parents who are pushing me to become a success but who do not now, nor have they ever understood how to give emotional support or even how to communicate their own heavily suppressed emotions. When I'm suicidally depressed or psychotic and manic they give me some reprieve because they're smart enough to know I'm truly suffering even though they have no idea how to deal with it other than to send me to the doctor to get pills. I don't have support to fuck around and do nothing, I have constant pressure to get it together and make something of myself.
I'm blessed in some ways, sure, but that doesn't mean life is easy and I can't ask for help. I'm not mocking you, I don't even know you. You're the one constantly putting yourself down and comparing yourself to others. Just look at your own situation and do your best. Or don't. I don't really give a shit.
>>29700948
tl;dr fuck off poor little rich boy
>>29700905
Yeah, if you had ever met some of the stupid dumb-ass middle-aged hicks who own their own home improvement business or concrete business or tile installation business (etc.) but can barely read and still rake in millions of dollars in good years, you would realise how foolish a post this is, but as you're obviously very sheltered and don't understand just how stupid the average person is, I'll forgive it.
>>29700996
>dumb-ass middle-aged hicks
dumb-ass middle-aged extroverted hicks*
But yeah I guess you're one of those special snowflake syndrome "I have social anxiety xDD" failed normies anyway. If you ACTUALLY had social anxiety you wouldnt even dream of trying a career path in which being extroverted is one of the main requirements.
>>29700732
>neuroscience
Boy, that's a completely different level from me.
>murrica
Ah well. Still best of luck to you buddy
>people here think it's too late to change when they're 27
>I went to Community college and this guy who was 43 got his AA or certificate and is making 50k with great bennies and upward mobility doing what he always wanted to do
>mfw these 20 somethings are crying about being old
Who here /no plans for 4th of July/?
>>29701056
>tfw going to shitpost on the 4th like another day.
>>29701041
No you dumb fuck, I want to do it precisely because I have social anxiety and I don't want to be a slave to it forever. I've just never had a situation in life where I've cared about something enough to change. I've avoided huge parts of my life just because I couldn't bring myself to make a phone call or send someone an email. I never had any hope, I never cared about my life enough to have to force myself to face my fears, I could always just take the path of least resistance and ignore things and distract myself from reality with mindless pleasures provided by electronic screens.
I've decided the best way for me to change is to do something I care about, and if I had a business, it would at least be mine. I could live or die completely on my own merits. I wouldn't be a wage slave for someone else.
>>29701572
tl;dr fuck off
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>>29701056
I promised myself last year I would not spend the 4th drunk alone in my room, here I am again.
>>29701572
>>29701607
tl;dr: He still has blind naive hope.
>>29701572
Try reading a wikipedia page or two about anxiety. It's more than just >forcing yourself to face your fears. If you actually had social anxiety then you'd need training to learn how to socialize properly. And I'm sure getting in more debt (which you might not need to, rich boy) and putting everything on the line is the best way to learn how to socialize. You'd most likely also need meds to not panic while talking to your prospective business partners.
But hey I'm just a dumbass right? Whatever you say smart guy
If you could be 20 again, what would you do differently?
>>29701707
I did everything I was supposed to do. Maybe be a little more outgoing with females and go out on weekends instead of staying home, but, I don't think that would have truly made my life greater. Life is immeasurably empty.
>>29692048
This so much... and guess what ? it never gets easier, it just goes fatser and faster.
>>29681218
>I was not made for this world
Neither was I.
>tfw you've probably spent thousands of years, one reincarnation after another, on this planet and your soul hasn't progressed an inch during that time
>>29701688
I've been getting that training for the past five years. I've been institutionalized twice. I've undergone structured exposure therapy in addition to CBT and DBT. I've been on literally dozens of medications.
You are a dumbass because you're assuming things when you know literally nothing about me. I've been agoraphobic and haven't left the house for multi-year periods. Just because I haven't given up trying doesn't mean I never had a problem in the first place.
You're just trying to build up a fantasy world in which if you have "actual" social anxiety, it's impossible to change and there's no hope because you don't want to be faced with the extremely sobering reality that there if hope, but it's going to be difficult. It's much easier to convince yourself that there's nothing for you to do because everything's fucked before you've even begun than to actually try, to fail, to try again, to fail again, and so on and so forth until you gain enough experience from your failures to start making some modest successes.
>>29695652
holy fuck this is me this is me so much
>>29701707
not much. my life was already fucked by 20.
>>29701846
>I've been getting that training for the past five years. I've been institutionalized twice. I've undergone structured exposure therapy in addition to CBT and DBT. I've been on literally dozens of medications.
>I've been agoraphobic and haven't left the house for multi-year periods.
Alright fine, you have social anxiety, but wait something doesnt add up here. Lets see...
>you are intelligent, as you yourself claimed
>you still have social anxiety
>you've been slowly rehabilitating yourself
>you have a shitty low paying job
>you're now, with 0 experience as an extroverted entrepreneur, considering starting a business
I guess I cant understand the intelligent reasoning here since I'm a dumbass.
>dating a woman who refuses to be exclusive. Goes on dates with other guys.
>dating for 5 months.
>>29701997
>you still have social anxiety
Oh nevermind, I forgot that you cured your social anxiety. I'm sure creating a business plan, getting investors onboard and hiring employees will be an easy challenge for you.
>>29702034
can it even be called dating when she's fucking other guys?
do you even fuck her?
>tfw watching livestreamers like Kripp who are your age and making bank playing games all day
>OTOH you're making pennies in some boring tech job
Capitalism is pretty infuriating sometimes.
>40
and a total Hikikomori, I may have no life, be a kissless virgin cripple, but fuck, at least I have a pretty successful brother that built me a place to live on his property and brings me food once a month
OLDFAGS JOIN:
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>>29701997
Hol up hol up.
Do I have to be dumb to have social anxiety?
>>29702268
What does your bro do and why are you a cripple?
>>29684876
Turning 25 this year. Been homeless for a couple months in the past. Good luck friend. From all my heart.
I'm turning 26 next month and I'm making it. My health is improving, I'm climbing out of debt, and I bought a house.
I'm almost at the point where I'm ready to start looking for a wife. I'm thinking I'll go to eastern europe to find one.
>>29684876
Wishing you luck anon.
>25
>In chronic pain everyday
>Medication doesn't provide relief
I wasn't meant for this world. It's not going to get better on it's own, is it?
>>29702635
no, you need to kill yourself, do heroin or both to make the pain go away
>>29702652
They gave me opioids at the hospital and honestly they don't feel that good. I'm not sure why people become addicted to them.
YOU CAN STOP POSTING IN THIS SHIT THREAD NOW
>>29702524
ENTER
Where is my wife
Where is my kids
Where is my education
Where is my future going
Why do I still live at home
Just fuck my shit up.
>30
>no life
This summer I'll end it.
>>29691275
Animal rights activists would make the scene
I'm still waiting to wake up for my first day of HS, the nightmare of being a 27 year old NEET needs to stop.
>>29701572
Thanks for expressing this. I oscillate between hopeless and feeling a huge desire to power through my social anxiety and get what I could have had, but was too afraid to reach for.
>>29701607
>>29701688
You can both get fucked. At least this guy has the audacity to finally go after what he wants, and he could either be successful or at least go down with the dignity of having tried.
>>29681218
>turning 27 at the 1st august
>khv
>still living with parents
>dead end job in local oil refinery
>constant depression
>suicidal thoughts, already tried to hang myself once
>bought a motorcycle few years ago
>riding aimlessly became reliable relief
>got hit by a car
>my bike is rekt
>my body is rekt
>locked at home with my parents again for a year of slow recovery
>getting evaluated if im worthy of NEETbucks because the injuries left me with some permanent effect
>exchanging emails with 20yo girl which is almost like me in female version
>she seems to be somehow attracted to me
>still feeling like a worthless, useless piece of shit that has no place on this world
>considering suicide again
>Turning 27 in December.
>parents split apart at 10
>Been living away from home since 16. Mom wanted to marry a nigger waiter for 9 years.
>>29681218
>Got fed up with two different colleges on two separate occasions, didn't like either which were in the middle of bumblefuck montana/wyoming. Which sucks when you're from a place like the east coast.
>Legally homeless, live in motel 6
>Drove out of decrepit backwards state in different direction from home
>Am now living on the opposite coast of all family
>alone in a motel and having to watch what I spend
>Try to catch fish for dinner, if they don't bite I get a cheap dinner from the 24 hour grocery.
I know in my heart what I love is true, guys. No one can take that from me, though they try to degrade it when I share my views. I was forced to leave many times when people saw my projects. My projects which grow in jars.
I don't hurt anyone, including myself. If the gov't doesn't want me sharing my discoveries, I won't. I'll be silent as a stone. Just let me continue my work in peace.
I can't talk to my fractured family about what I really want to try with my life. I can't have long conversations with them anyway unless I regurgitate something I heard in my audiobooks.
Everyone else is sorta successful in my senpai, and my dad remarried and had two young girls 16 years my junior.
As the years progress I'm becoming a smaller footnote in their history. Which makes sense, I was forced to leave at 16 while my sister got to stay in the house, as well as in the state. I've been roaming around for 10 years trying to make rich schoolmasters happy.
I feel memed to go try college again, but college greatly hampers my interests and I never meet good friends anymore.
I thought typing it out would make me feel better, but everything I said has so much backstory to it that it feels incomplete to even share a little.
I guess I'm another one of you guys who feels terror when some normie asks what do I do for a living.
>>29707255
What is your project?
>>29707312
In a truly free society, where another man can't imprison you for merely having a jar of unidentified mycellium, I would tell you that
I want to be an ethnobotanist. I would like to create a garden of plants and fungi with medicinal psychoactive properties and breed more potent strains. I know the plants I'd husband will be a great help to people with troubled minds like me.
My reason for doing so is I've a very real depression. I don't feel whole physically or mentally. Mutilate the body and you mutilate the mind. Counseling failed, talking to friends made it worse when it became clear the canyons which separate us.
But can I tell you about what helped me?
My sister gave me mushrooms once.
In those four hours my life was seen from angles I could not have reached under my own power, or from that of a psychoanalyst. I felt and knew suchness/"isness" I felt love for myself. I began to give all religions consideration, something which I had never once done previously. Art museums became fascinating afterwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ3WqX20ock
I began listening to Terence and Alan Watts and going out into unoccupied tracts of wilderness and listening to them and watching the stars. I'd watch the moonrise and then set 10 hours later, all the while with my eyesight sharpened by the strength of my little gods. I was in an area with very little light pollution so one can see the milky way directly overhead.
And of course, I enjoyed the process in fungi farming. To have something I'm good at is a confidence booster, but it also builds your lab skills because of the book keeping involved.
And with all these clickbait articles of hallucinogens being used by the government to help PTSD victims, I'm terrified I'm going to miss my chance to grow due to GOVERNMENT subsidizing people who are not me.
My joys will be cucked away from me, and somehow it's illegal for a civilian to grow a fungi unless he has special dispensation from the Gov't.
>>29707824
Oh so you're on a shroom trip. I've done acid quite a bit, but only done shrooms once. They're pretty expensive. I would love to chat you up on psychedelics but I've got some programming to do.
>>29708090
I'm just so glad I didn't get a harsh response. Thanks. I'd like to talk to you too about it, I'm the opposite. I've only tried acid once, but I gotta catch those fish, it's high tide.
Thanks for the feedback.
>>29702227
Haha your problem you're too stupid to even play games on camera.
>>29690541
thank you, anon. this really is a good place to share. good luck to all anonbots
Haha i broke the rules im 21 fuck you old bitter fucks i will be a rich fucker when i am your age, i am an neet right now which is depressive and has anxiety and never got out of the house since 3 years but i will show you old niggers that i can change my life to the better with just my mind as tool! Right?
Can't be that hard right? haha..
haha
ha
Life is pretty good. 32. Okay job. live with parents. Just closed the deal on a house that I bought 2 weeks ago. Get possession at the end of the month. Now I can finally get outcall escorts instead of always doing incalls.
>>29681218
Sure you were, anon. Maybe it's that your diet and lack of physical activity were not meant for you. : )
Trust me, dude.
33 here, Cyber Security Manager, making 160k a year. Married, 2nd wife with 3 kids.
Have a cheap mortgage (1100$ a month) and $1200 in car payements, but thats about it and I take home around 7k a month after retirement/benefits/taxes/medicalhsa. Get a stock bonus every quarter of around 3500$ and spend that on stupid shit. Posting this from my iMac retina, with a Dell T7600 workstation with 2x Xeon 2670s next to it. I guess I'm rich, but I don't feel like it.
>>29710361
damn, you should learn to invest and retire early.
>>29710379
Yeah, probably -- Keep thinking I'm going to start my own company, but all I really want to do is hang out with my kids and my wife.
Wife has set up some pretty good 3 ways for me so I'm happy there as well.
>26
>earning 40k/yr working fulltime in my field
>living with parents and saving a bunch of money
>good health
>dating a qt azn grad student
>eventually want to move to a bigger city
>overcame alot of, but not all, my robot tendencies and can pass as pretty normie now.
Life is good, but I still come on here to relate and share feels with all the other robots who are deeply introverted or otherwise struggling socially
>>29710408
ya, I only make 110k and I'm really jelly. I'll probably have to work 15 more years before retiring unless I get some big raises
Wow this thread is normie central
>>29710451
I made 110 a year ago, the raises come hard and fast in Security (apparently). 110 is GREAT! Just keep upping your game. What is your profession?
>37
>genuinely need to think for a sec whenever I'm asked my age
I knew this was coming but I still wasn't prepared. Its' not the age, it's that i feel exactly the same as I did ten years ago.
>>29710472
senior dev, web, i'm bringing stuff like version control and automated testing to a small group of olds that is very 'cowboy'
I will be 24 soon... so I don't care about the rules, fuck the rules and fuck yo couch.
At least I got a job... so suck on that NEET fags. I hadn't worked in over a year and it was starting to look bad. No degree, no gf, no prospects.
But I got the job, so I will be rich soon. And I will buy a gun
>>29710498
>But I got the job, so I will be rich soon. And I will buy a gun
sounds like something John Steinbeck would write.
>>29710492
>>29710472
>>29710451
>>29710361
I work QA r&d shit with ipsec and make about half that. Yeah it's good, but never enough. How did you prime yourself for the position? I'm young and just got substantial raised, but my boss basically said not to expect that as the norm.
I'm very confident I could make more elsewhere continuing in the security niche, but not sure if I should focus on programming or sys admin type stuff. Currently my job encompasses both which is "cool".
Still want to kill myself every morning. Too tired at night to care one way or another.
>>29710608
for me it took a few job hops to get the salary. i went from
job1 45 --raises---> 55
job2 80 --raises---> 90
job3 110
>>29710603
>something John Steinbeck would write.
who?
>>29695098
You got it bro just act NOW, im 22 and had a kid at your age with a legit nancy. Fucked me up and continues too to this day. If you have you license, no kids, and can work you are gonna be good bro
>>29701707
>>29701779
>I did everything I was supposed to do.
Yeah I drank and did drugs. Never did anything with girls, but I still had a blast. I'd do anything to experience it all again. Most important is I could abuse my body with minimal consequences.
