any of you robots work/study in the skilled trades?
I can wipe my ass with a single sheet.
I'm going into Refrigeration and AC. I hear that they're in high demand and the pay is good. That's what I'm going to do, I want to repair refrigerators for trucks and stores. Wetbacks can't into skilled trades yet and this would be a good one. i can move to AUS and CANADA and fix their shit if I like too.
Anyone does this trade? I've signed up for a class at the CC and want to know what to expect.
Programmer, the ultimate robot trade.
>>29660145
bricklayer here, lay 1000 bricks here in the uk and earn 450 ukp
a decent bricklayer can lay about 700 in the right conditions, actually gonna miss the foreigners if they decide to leave as unlike allot british workers they are quite humble and friendly, they have almost a child like sense of humor about things
>>29660589
Why don't you jump on the HVAC train instead?
>>29660980
because I don't want to breathe fiberglass all day
how's Industrial Electrician as a career?
I'm a commericial electrician.
it's ok
the thing I like about trades is that people will be nice to you as long as you're great at your job no matter how autistic/shy/ugly/openly racist you are.
how do women typically react to finding out that you work in skilled trades?
>>29661503
They probably like it. Most people today are below middle class so having a steady job that pays pretty good is probably attractive to them. I live in a shit town so this may not be the same for you in you area but I see drop dead generous women with guys who work in trades and even low end labor jobs.
I used to work in a picking warehouse were we packed wood in boxes . The guys there had beautiful gfs and wife's. I guess your occupation doesn't really matter like it used to because the job market is historically bad. Like 20% of working aged people are unemployed and 50 million able bodied people are on food stamps and gibbons. believe it or not I think women's standards are going down because they realize that men who make six figures or don't have massive student debt are rare. I think you'll be fine.
Skilled trades = jobs for people too dumb for college
>>29662237
wow anon, you must be so smart,tell me how smart you are.
>>29660145
>work/study
no good sir im not a cuck like you i work for myself and only myself and you sould 2 you subhuman faggot good day
>>29660145
welder here. school sucked, everyone expected you to bullshit with them, but if you can find a good instructor its easy. on the job, its like what >>29661466 said. you can just work, then go home and be a robot.
Yes, I'm a software engineer.
>>29662237
I guess that's true. I dropped out after a semester, now I'm an electrician. Not a day that goes by that I don't regret it. Kill me.
>>29662637
>software engineer
hmmm I thought that software engineering was a university thing, not a skilled trade.
>>29662701
why do you regret it?
kkll
HVAC technician here. Sitting at $18/h since I've just started doing calls by myself. Been working at this company for almost 2 years and started off as a helper. Haven't gotten any certifications yet but I'm planning to this fall after I get my GI Bill shit straight. I pretty much just do my calls for the day and then go home to eat and play vidya. Only shitty part of the job is really hot attics and small crawlspaces.
>>29661393
IBEW apprentice here. Industrial applications are where you really see all that the trade has to offer: PLCs, robotics, DC and AC current, all sorts of different systems, and phase configurations. You have to know your shit. Even on a knowledge level, it's a segment of the field where the tradesman equals the engineer *at least.* There's an absolutely massive power gap between commercial electrical work and industrial electrical work. As far as I'm concerned, it's hard to even call a residential "electrician" an electrical worker.
It's also fucking brutal on the body. I did some industrial work at a steel plant recently, and a water treatment plant in the past. All the conduit is rigid and the panels are huge, so installation is hard, and demolition or alteration is an even bigger pain. At the steel plant, we had to shift a disconnect back 8 inches. All the pipe coming out of the box had to be redone, all the wire pulled and re-pulled, and the rack for the disconnect had to be rebuilt. Worst job I've done so far.
Even if you work directly for the plant as an electrician and aren't on the construction side of things, you work in alot of cramped spaces in places either very hot or very cold, very loud, and very high up. Plus you're working with high voltages, and in most cases the plant isn't going to be able to fully shut the equipment off, so you're working with live wires.
Basically: do your research and know what you're getting into. I've pretty much decided that I want to stick to commercial and residential work as much as possible.
>>29663212
Oh, and an addendum: If you wanna get into an "easy" electrical trade but don't want to work on people's houses, consider communications.
>>29660145
Welder here.
Never went to school for it, just something I learned as a kid.
I work part time to pay for college but I'm thinking about saying fuck it and making this my career.
It's not a bad gig and you aren't really expected to talk much so it suits me.
>>29663297
>Oh, and an addendum: If you wanna get into an "easy" electrical trade but don't want to work on people's houses, consider communications.
how are those two connected?
>>29663212
>You have to know your shit. Even on a knowledge level, it's a segment of the field where the tradesman equals the engineer *at least.*
I didn't know that some trades equaled engineers
how much school work are you talking about?
calc, physics, and such?
Yes. And I'm Union too.
Trades have become an alt-right meme lately, with college educated fruits like Mike Rowe and Gavin McInnes and shit yapping about how manly trades are and shit. Mike Rowe the opera singer and Gavin McInnes the hipster who created Vice? Everyone's yapping and yapping about how much money you can make. If you fucking work 7 days a week 12-16 hours, yeah you can make big bucks but at what cost? Being taxed like a rich person but living and working like a poor one? Hundreds, even thousands of miles away from home, sending all your paychecks to your wife so she can fuck niggers? Most everyone lives paycheck to paycheck, alcoholics and druggies, whoremongerers and divorcees.
I suppose if you don't have anything else going for you and you don't care about your health then go ahead, learn a trade. That's what I did.
But, in my opinion, if you aren't in a Union- just kill yourself. I couldn't imagine working construction Non-Union, that must REALLY suck.
>>29663560
are you doing okay, mane?
is everything all right?
>>29663624
Everything is all right, don't worry about it.
>>29663560
does it matter if I'm Canadian?
skilled trades are quite cheap to get into where I live.
>>29663383
>so what you're basically saying is that Industrial Electrician work is specialist (lots of school work) bordering STEM, hard on the body, and hazardous work?
That sums it up.
>I don't find communications very appealing. I stutter quite a bit
No I don't mean communications like the college major; I mean communications as in data, phone lines, etc.. CAD6 cable and stuff.
I did a little bit of that in the building I'm currently working on. The only physically difficult part of it was pulling lots of cables through cable tray. The rest was building light racks in communications closets, crimping ends on, and using a tester to test every single data plug on the jobsite. Extremely repetitive, mind-numbing work.
Another similar field I didn't mention that's a bit more interesting is fire alarm and security. However, that one involves working in heights and cramped spaces alot: climbing on top of duct work to install smoke heads and shit. All small pipe and small wire, though.
>>29663513
>how are those two connected?
Well, neither one works with pipe very much. Neither one involves much heavy wire/cable pulling. But the "commie" typically works in commercial buildings, and doesn't have to deal with cutting and fishing wire through drywall and itchy insulation as much as the residential guy. Much less risk of getting zapped too.
>I didn't know that some trades equaled engineers
how much school work are you talking about?
calc, physics, and such?
No, it's mostly technical knowledge. Stuff like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_logic_controller
I don't know very many electricians that know calculus (but we do use trigonometry). But an industrial electrician knows as much about electrical systems as an Electrical Engineer would.
>>29663560
I agree completely. What's worse are the contractor cocksuckers in unions. Transporting materials in personal vehicles, bringing power tools to work, working through lunch and break. Fucking scum.
>>29663762
how much formal studying and apprenticeship do you do?
Millwright here. Make a lot of money and I like the work. Feels good.
>>29664062
I go to class at my union hall 3 times a week. On the jobsite, I'm partnered with a Journeyman. I also keep a book to log my hours at work, classifying them into different segments of electrical work: thinwall conduit raceway systems, rigid conduit raceway systems, floor duct installation, installing and mounting panels, terminating and splicing conductors, etc.. I also have to ask a journeyman to fill out a monthly performance report for me.
>>29660145
CNC programming here.
>>29660145
Currently a medical student (MD)
>tfw too dumb and miffed to do a decent career, be it college or trade.
I fucked up my financial aid because I'm unmovited, just going to college because it feels like its what you're supposed to do.
I suck at technical jobs, though. Too nerous to kill myself, perhaps when the poverty catches up to my foolishness I'll get the clear head to end it all
>>29660589
Confusing at first but easy once you get it. Be prepared to deal with a lot of shady stuff. Be prepared to work up to 130hrs biweekly.
>>29664487
how'd you get into that?
>>29662765
it's all afucking meme. It's good money, you won't starve, but a good number of the people who work in this field and construction in general are some of the biggest dicks I've ever met. this is coming from a fucking robot though so if you're a failed normie trying to redeem himself then have at it.
>>29664646
My local college offers a certificate program in it. I took it and learned drafting along with machining and measurement. I finish learning to program in CNC this December. I start a job soon though. Hopefully as a CNC set-up operator for starters.
Its not hard stuff. But also, literally no one studies it these days. My classes are usually 3-5 people in size, mostly old guys looking for a pay raise and extra qualifications
>>29660145
I'm a mechanic and a fabricator when I need to be.
Being a mechanic is usually a shit job depending on where you work but I got lucky. My pay is good and I didn't have to buy 10k of my own tools.
tl;dr skilled trades are a good way to go
>>29663297
>>telecom
>>easy
Hand digging 50 foot ditches for telco conduit at every other site, because phone companies can't bury their damn lines properly, isn't easy. Just saying.
I'm a line cook, but it's nothing special. Looking to advance myself as far as possible since I wasn't a big fan of college.
