>"Isnt america supposed to be the land of the free? how come, If im free, I cant deprive a stupid fucking dumbshit from his possessions If he leaves then sitting in the front seat of his fucking van out in plain sight and in the middle fucking nowhere on a Fri fucking day night. NATURAL SELECTION. fucker should be shot."
Any must watch documentaries on those guys? Still the best school shooters ever.
>>29657122
they're the prime failed normie shooters choice for sure, maybe tied with elliot
they'll never reach the astral planes along the actual greats (cho, lanza, lepine), though
>>29657197
They helped Cho on his path to glory along with many others, they have seats in the kingdom.
Wow really makes ya think huh
rekt
original 29837
>>29657197
> They had the style
> They had the taste in movies
> They had the companionship
> They are the only tandem school shooters
> Somehow ChingChongHuong is better?
my brother died in columbine
>>29657295
Was he hit in the spine
>>29657282
The Jonesboro shooters worked as a duo. They did their thing shortly before the Columbine kids.
>>29657090
>free to steal property
Is this a real quote? These kids were retarded if so.
>>29657343
Pic related, these little faggots bagged five kills by pulling the fire alarm and then sniping away at people outside. They brought a pretty impressive armory for two middle schoolers.
From Wikipedia
>Remington 742 .30-06 rifle, Universal .30 M1 carbine replica, Smith & Wesson .38 revolver, Double Deuce Buddie .22 two-shot derringer, FIE .380 pistol, Star .380 pistol, Ruger Security Six .357 revolver, Davis Industries .38 two-shot derringer, and a Charter Arms .38 revolver
>>29657397
Fuck, managed to miss the picture.
I dressed up as Dylan my senior year in high school for Halloween.
Pretty cool guys desu.
Would either have shot up the school if they never met each other?
>>29657425
I think Harris might have, but I don't think Klebold would've done it solo, he would've been too depressed.
>>29657425
The blonde one probably would, his peer pressure was the only reason the other kid even went through with it.
>>29657197
This is true, they failed. For two shooters with bombs, 13 is actually a bad score
but they are more famous than cho lanza, lepine and breivik combined, only because of the shock value (kids getting shot was relatively new, whitman shot adults for instance) and it was a story that sold.
>>29657435
This. I can only recommend the documentary on youtube to get insight to their psychology. Klebold was fucked up, but Harris was fucking fucked up.
>>29657425
Dylan wouldn't, he was the follower. I think Dylan would of killed himself if Eric didn't convince him to hit the shooting range. I think we all relate with Klebold, how his life was shit and he saw one way out. He was a pretty cool guy it sounds like, had decent tastes and personality was (robo)brotier.
Eric was fucked up, and I have no sympathy for him.
>>29657463
He was a sociopath or something like that. That's why he legitimately thought it was morally okay for him to rob a van. He couldn't comprehend other people's emotions and existences as any kind of worthwhile input.
>>29657397
Kinda suprised though, that they both were already released from jail. Yeah, they were minors, but they killed 5 kids and I got fucked up because of 2oz. of weed.
>>29657435
>>29657489
fell for the dave cullen meme
>>29657506
What do you mean?
original desu
>>29657506
Private diaries don't lie, pham.
>>29657506
I don't think Klebold was harmless or anything like that, he obviously had homicidal desires deeply ingrained in him. I just don't think alone he would've been functional enough to pull something like that off.
>>29657503
>If America is free then how come i'm not free to take away other people's rights and freedoms as i see fit?
Eric Harris was a massive underage faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_4wpDq5qys
this video is awesome
>>29657537
But remember, in his brain, he genuinely didn't see any moral reason he shouldn't be able to violate others rights. That's a central pillar of sociopathy.
>>29657435
Klebold was actually the more fucked up one.
>>29657573
Klebold was sad and depressed and his only real friend was Harris. Harris got him into the guns and shit, and converted Klebold from failed normie to an hero.
>If America is free then how come i'm not free to take away other people's rights and freedoms as i see fit?
What exactly is wrong with this statement? seems right to me
>>29657527
>>29657530
>>29657534
In his 2009 book "Columbine" Dave Cullen really pushed the idea of one puppy dog suicidal boy following a psychopathic megalomaniac. There were a lot of inaccuracies in the book too, like how they were never bullied and were not outcasts in any way shape or form (though it is true that they don't fit the definition of robots)
>>29657541
I had never seen Klebold's hair in a bun before. Also, just noting how they handle the shotgun recoil horrible, I recall that at least one of them broke their hand using their shoddily shortened shotguns.
>>29657604
That's really not at all what I'm suggesting. Klebold must have been homicidal in his own right to actually engage in a school shooting, I just don't know if he would have been capable of bringing it to fruition.
>>29657541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjyLe2mQq60
>>29657597
>Klebold was sad and depressed and his only real friend was Harris
That's wrong, Klebold had more friends, took a date to prom, and one of Harris' last journal entries (if not the last) was a rambling about how nobody wanted to hang out with him or invite him to "fun things"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbR_ase5fY
any1 like this movie?
>>29657601
Because you're making freedom esoterically relative. Meaning, freedom for you is different from freedom for me. Moreover, you set yourself in the driver's seat with respect to deciding what freedom is for me.
Said another way:
>all animals are created equal. But some animals are more equal than others.
If you don't see the massive issued with this line of thinking, you should probably check yourself into a psychiatrist before you watch the Matrix too many more times
>>29657628
GTFO
normie remix of a normie song, has segments from zero hour which was shit and didn't feel genuine at all
>>29657649
Thanks, pham. I was really bored and the ratings are pretty good, Imma go watch this right now. You can always depend on school shooter threads.
>>29657608
Harris went up to a table under which Cassie Bernall was hiding. He slapped the surface of the table and crouched, yelling "PEEKABOO" to scare her. He shot his shotgun one handed and it hit him in the face like a baseball bat, breaking his nose
>>29657649
I haven't seen it.
Do they actually do the shooting? That's important.
>>29657698
Right, that was it. They really tried to be too cool with their gun handling.
>>29657666
Eric and Dylan homevideos can save any video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9XYvQufcdk
not a recreation of columbine, but heavily based on it. It's a found footage film that feels very genuine, easily one of the best movie based on Columbine despite being low-budget
>>29657653
when I think of freedom is it's the ability to do whatever I choose to. Taking anothers freedom would be part of my freedom and your freedom would include the ability to take me freedom.
This sounds logical to me
Haha. Nobody here knows the truth. They didn't release the basement tapes because it shows them blowing each other. Dylan and Eric were homosexuals who loved tearin up dat ass.
>>29657709
Well I don't want to spoil ityes
Anybody watched zero day?
I can't even go through it because it's horrible.
>>29657742
this is what fangirls choose to believe, after they finish schlicking to eric x dylan fanfictions
>>29657597
Can't copy and paste without fucking it about due to the bot not letting me post non-ascii stuff
>>29657767
It's actually really good, much better than Elephant. It feels more genuine than any other Columbine-based movie
>>29657726
>>29657767
Missed your post.
>>29657767
Horrible as in "This movie is too sick for me to continue" or as in "This movie sucks".
Whenever I'm in these threads I get pumped up to fuck shit up.
>>29657798
I meant horrible in a terrifying way.
>>29657834
a lot of people are turned off by the low budget and the acting not being the best, but IMO it was done right as far as pacing and narrative of a found footage film goes
>>29657861
Ah well it's on youtube so I give it a go. It must be better than just browsing r9k and jerking off I guess.
>>29657834
I felt pretty uncomfortable.
The movie is great. Low budget fits the theme.
>>29657853
Well there's nothing horrifying about it, except maybe tfw you get sort of attached to the shooters
Did they mention natural selection a lot? how did they justify getting themselves killed with that?
>>29657397
That's a lot of guns even for two people. Maybe they didn't know how to reload them lol
>>29658036
WHY RELOAD WHEN YOU CAN SHOOT?
>>29658015
They were the manifestation of the concept of natural selection choosing who died and who survived. They became literally machines built for killing and nothing else.
>>29658015
Didn't the one guy even wear a tshirt with natural selection written on it that day?
>>29658083
Their two T-Shirts said
>Natural Selection
>Wrath
It's even there on OP's pic, come on now.
>>29658083
Harris might have, Klebold had Wrath (for the album by KMFDM). At least I think so. I also know that Finnish guy who shot up his school had a Natural Selection shirt.
>>29657725
the other one has that too, and also security footage and news footage, all edited together to feel "chronological" or like a story being told.
It also shows who had what gun, who were killed (even in the right order) that's why I like it a lot better.
>>29658015
it was Harris who talked about it all the time in the basement tapes and his diary
>>29658062
But they chose themselves too.
>>29658140
Pekka had a "Humanity is Overrated" shirt.
>>29658015
>>29658083
eric harris wore a natural selection shirt.
he was very into the idea. however, his issue was that he saw basically ALL of mankind as deeply flawed/inferior and not deserving of life, including himself. he frequently pointed out flaws in other people and then said he was the same as them. he acknowledged being a hypocrite sometimes but felt that humans were all shit anyway so it didn't matter.
>i hate niggers and racists
>>29657362
In the hood if you don't watch your shit you must not want it, because the thief watches his shit. That's how you know he wants it more. He takes care of it. You're the one who's retarded.
>>29658381
Oh right, I'm retarded.
>>29658383
Fucking sociopaths/psychopaths man. One time I was at the hospital, there was this guy who ended up screaming "YOU'RE ALL FUCKING MAGGOTS! MAGGOTS! FUCK YOU ALL!" while smashing the shit out of everything within reach.
Is there any subject /r9k/ knows more about than school/college shootings?
>>29658488
Pornography. Fuck, I was hoping that might be original.
>>29658428
i don't believe eric harrris was a psychopath/sociopath, actually.
i think that the psychologists and experts did some picking and choosing to label him that way. i think they also interpret depressed teenage angst and edginess as psychopathic tendencies. i believe it's a false narrative that they are selling to people because it makes them feel better about what happened.
ALL THE OTHER KIDS
WITH THE PUMPED UP KICKS
BETTER RUN BETTER RUN
OUTRUN MY GUN
Thread theme:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKYLyV7yXg
>>29657570
how do you know what was going on in his brain? how do you know that this wasn't face-saving posturing after he was forced to write a groveling apology letter so that he didn't get in any more trouble?
i don't think his apology letter was sincere but i don't think it's clear that the statement in the OP was anything more than rationalization and trying to feel okay about what he did.
>tfw no best friend who is willing to go out in a blaze of glory with you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0BrJAHoHHg
>>29658488
anime
why feminism sucks
memes
>>29658751
I knew this feel in the days following my first watching of "Zero Day"
>>29658751
>>29658989
PLS NO BULLY GUYS
>>29659075
wat
this is an original post
>>29657197
this fag said lanza lmfao
>>29657649
Looks like a Hollywood version of Zero Day.
>>29657735
Yeah you should get that fixed, anon. That's not what freedom is in theory or in practice. You're talking about the nobility of martial law in the context of a really juvenile type of authoritarianism
Conflating freedom for all with free will of one is incorrect. Especially when what you chose to do isn't socially tenable. That's what prison is for, quite literally.
>>29659565
>Conflating freedom for all with free will of one is incorrect.
It's not free will of one, it's freedom. If everyone were allowed to do anything, we'd all be free. Your functioning and success and failure would all be based on freedom instead of on being protected by the state. We have a watered down version of freedom because that's how society functions but it isn't true freedom. It has nothing to do with authoritarianism.
Dear Researcher,
This body of evidence is 10,937 pages and the entire file as a compressed .zip download is 272 MB and will be available for download soon. These are now SEARCHABLE .pdf files.
JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF RECORDS PERTAINING TO THE JANUARY INCIDENT:
Crime Scene Drawing January Incident 10501-10600
http://columbinefamilyrequest.org/evidence-repository/
>>29658524
>tfw you know the names and faces of more porn stars than actual people in your life
>>29659565
oh wow you are so fucking naive
"thats what prison is for"
holy shit you are a retard
"socially tenable"
holy fucking jesus you are a moron
stay in your basement and commit suicide soon
the will of the leadership of society decides morality as it is taught to the rest. you are stuck in this mental trap.
prison is for people who act against the business interests of the leadership. in other words, those who exert will contrary to the will of the leadership.
where is the force propping up true morality?
the uneducated undisciplined constantly distracted masses?
get real
>>29657197
But who did Cho and Lanza look up to?
It was Eric and Dylan, dumbass
>>29660392
Freedom is a very specific thing. My post concerns the semantic nature of freedom, not the moral justifications for the semantic nature of freedom.
I am well aware that morality is localized. You sound pretty edgy, my dude. Consider doing what Eric didn't do, and read a few goddamn books instead of calling people retarded and posting rhetorical bullshit.
>>29660392
that is some teenage-tier edge, anon. Smarter men have reached different conclusions, I don't know how you can be so convinced that your "perspective" is so cool and valid.
Name one historical instance of a successful anarchist society, smartass
The soundtrack to this thread tbqhwy
https://youtu.be/504L_qSfTaM
>>29657767
Does this only exist in 360p online?
>>29660824
See >>29657726
It is 360p and it looks fine
>>29657463
Post that darn link desu senpai
I WANNA SEE THE BASEMENT TAPES GODDAMNIT
>>29660998
there's a transcript describing them you can find. nothing special desu
>>29660438
lanza didn't look up to eric and dylan, i'm pretty sure. i seem to remember him saying that he wasn't particularly intrigued by those two but maybe i'm wrong.
>>29660726
not who you replied to but
people don't have the courage to live in anarchy. there's too few and they're not devoted or extreme enough to ever really change things. doesn't mean it wouldn't work.
i actually am pretty uneducated but has there ever been a true anarchist society?
>>29661331
not true at all. the transcripts are only partial. they're at least 3 hours long and we definitely don't have that much content available.
Eric and Dylan are the kings. They basically invented the school shooting
If the bombs had gone off, they would still have the high score too
>>29661498
>They basically invented the school shooting
no.
>>29658550
He shot up a school. How the fuck is he not a psychopath?
>>29661515
they don't say dylan was a psychopath so this is not a valid argument, sorry. you'll need to know more than what's on the wikipedia page to understand why i believe what i believe.
>>29661511
Oh yeah sure there were people before them who shot classmates, sure, but the grand, orchestrated attack? They were the first. Why do you think Columbine remains part of the cultural lexicon 17 years later
I always figured that /r9k/ is just full of kip kinkels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
>>29661561
i was just pointing out that they weren't the first. i get why you say it though and i agree. i think it was the first large scale shooting that really impacted the nation as a whole. i also think all the material that was released, especially the videos (hitmen for hire most of all) made this famous forever. we can see them speak, think, move, live and they're real people.
>>29661492
>3 hours long
source?
of course they're partial, do you want to hear their entire ramblings word for word? they spend a lot of time talking about their friends and families, that's one of the reasons why they couldn't be released. Didn't they also include bomb making tutorials?
I'm sure a lot of it is boring with nothing happening, or it's just them loading buckshot pellets into field loads while talking about how much they hate the world
realistically, what "secrets" could there possibly be in those tapes?
Also weren't they destroyed recently?
>>29661690
they claim the tapes were destroyed but i don't believe they destroyed all copies.
>source?
http://www.acolumbinesite.com/quotes.html
>Westword, an online news source that has been in contact with the families (including Brian Rohrbough, father of victim Daniel Rohrbough, and an outspoken activist for the victims's families' rights) supports the claim that there were five tapes originally. The runtimes they offer for the videos is a vague "nearly four hours". My original notes on the tapes, taken from Time's magazine back in 1999, indicated three groups of times given: 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 22 minutes. CNN also makes mention of the five videos in an article from December 1999.
yeah, if you don't care about columbine, you don't care about the basement tapes. if you're interested, of course you want to see all of it.
there's also a big difference between reading little excerpts and seeing it. plus, with all the shit people commonly get wrong, even professionals, i don't trust them to give us a completely accurate description.
i'd like to see them.
>worship mass murderers
>"I'm such nice guy, why nobody likes me and I can't get a gf"
>>29661561
>Why do you think Columbine remains part of the cultural lexicon 17 years later
First reason is the shock value. At the time, the high score was held by Charles Whitman who killed adults, but this time it was teenagers killing teenagers. It was the first attack against "children" that had this many casualties, besides the Bath School disaster of course. People were also shocked that these high-schoolers orchestrated such an elaborate attack with over 99 explosive devices and firearms that their parents weren't even aware were in their houses
Second reason, they were from a boring little town and they looked and acted mostly normal. It sent people into a panic, the idea that their teenage son could be thinking about mass murder for revenge, and that they have the means of doing it. They were desperately trying to find a motive or identify the contributing factors or signs. The Trenchcoat Mafia, their diaries, the hometapes and school projects, the controversy of their musical taste and the movies/games they enjoyed. It got a shit ton of media coverage because of this
Third reason, they were a duo, that's very uncommon. Take Bonnie & Clyde for example.
>>29661940
>If I can combine things that different people have said, I can make it look like they were both said by a single person who is a delusional hypocrite
>I am so clever
>Now, to finish my ruse, I post le frog meme
>>29661946
>they were from a boring little town and they looked and acted mostly normal.
this is the only part i disagree with. they acted normal some of the time but not really. they purposely acted differently and rebelled and it was one reason that they were ostracized.
they didn't seem to act like murderers in any serious way but they got arrested in their junior year and i doubt that was super normal for their town. they also talked about killing a lot, though i guess everyone assumed it was teenage macho bullshit. still, people noticed that they were pretty dark and antisocial even before they did the killing.
the wholesome schoolboys thing was another media miscommunication, in my opinion. they would only be considered normal on the surface.
>>29657397
>>29657343
They are normies
>Johnson and Golden were both students at Westside Middle School. They met and became friends on a school bus that they rode home from school.[3] Together, they were known to bully other students, and they were recalled talking of wanting to belong to the Bloods and smoke marijuana.[3] The Texaco truck stop was a popular hang-out for youths in Jonesboro,[3] and adolescents there remember Johnson claiming to belong to street gangs. He also spoke of "having a lot of killing to do"[3] and his classmates also commented that he had a fascination with firearms. He had particularly threatened to kill sixth-grader Candace Porter, his former girlfriend who ended their relationship.
>>29662050
>considered normal on the surface.
yes that's the idea, they were considered normal on the outside and only one person was suspecting Harris was dangerous
Dark/rebellious boys were not uncommon, and these two were pretty damn normal compared to say, Cho, who clearly had a lot of issues that went beyond bullying. They liked video games and computers, guns and explosives, they both had friends and hobbies and clubs they went to. They had no clear mental illness besides the theory of Harris being an undiagnosed sociopath.
>>29661940
Thisis a valid criticism of robots
>>29660438
>Lanza
Not at all actually
>>29658291
>I've seen the basement tapes
Fuck off my man
>>29662233
>They had no clear mental illness besides the theory of Harris being an undiagnosed sociopath.
wrong. they were both severely depressed. and like i said, they were antisocial (criminal) which is more than dark and rebellious.
absolutely more normal than cho or lanza but that was the problem. they didn't get nearly as much help as they needed, even if eric did end up in therapy and anger management (more proof he wasn't considered normal, by the way).
but some people did think they might be dangerous. the browns all worried about him after he threatened brooks. other kids avoided them because they talked about shooting/killing and nazis and hating everyone. dylan's teacher spoke to his parents right before the shooting because he wrote a story about a guy shooting a bunch of prep/jocks and said he could relate to the guy.
there were plenty of warning signs that would be taken a lot more seriously now.
>>29661940
Except women like mass murderers you fucking retard. The only one who can't get a gf here is you.
>>29662445
>what are the transcripts
no u
>>29657282
>KMFDM better than the best megamaniacal and harder than the rest
https://youtu.be/xwhOTNQcQq4
>tfw it will never be the 90's again
>>29660438
Cho only cared about the superficial media image (of losers that were bullied and lashed out by school shooting) of them, not the actual failed normies that they really were.
>>29662445
there are transcripts of some parts of them.
still, i don't think he mentioned it in the transcripts i've read.
Eric talked about some January Incident. What was this all about?
>>29662560
>>29662600
eric and dylan broke into a van and stole video equipment. they were caught by the police like 15 minutes later. they had to go through a mandatory "diversion program" that required community service, letters of apology, not getting in trouble and psychiatric evaluation if they didn't want more severe legal repercussions.
>>29662458
depression is not a mental illness that is correlated to violence, it's extremely common in teenagers and most of the time temporary (when it's just a mood disorder). So people knew it couldn't be considered an explanation for what they did. The search went on.
the big thing that would separate them from the average teenager in their town is the van incident, so you're right about that. It's not as big a deal as the death threats though.
>but some people did think they might be dangerous.
when I said one person I was referring to Brooks' mother Judy, it was her in particular who was suspicious of Harris if I'm not mistaken
It's not a far cry to assume that in the first few weeks or months following the attack, the media portrayed them as teenagers that were mostly normal but "liked metal music and the disturbing video game doom"
>>29657666
Satan trips has spoken
>tfw no boislut eric harris bf/lover to kill jocks with
>>29662684
>They had no clear mental illness
yes, they did
>depression is not a mental illness that is correlated to violence
i didn't say it was.
>>29662684
yes, they were pretty normal in a lot of ways. i understand people calling them failed normies because they pretty much were. however, once they failed, they became obviously dangerous to certain people. they were just good with their social masks when it mattered because they lived in a highly superficial community that tended to ignore unpleasantness instead of dealing with it.
i still think the media overplayed the "all american boys" thing. they really weren't normal in many ways and that's part of why they were not blessed with many friends or girlfriends. eric especially tried very hard but couldn't make many connections (and if he did, wasn't good at keeping them because he was not normal). he essentially gave up and went full edge. neither of them was willing to conform because it never really helped them (they were always going to be low-tier socially) and it harmed them.
>>29663012
I was wrong about them not having a clear mental illness, I guess what I was trying to say is a more serious mental issue that could explain what they did. But there was none that was officially diagnosed, so it was scary to a lot of parents, the idea that their teenager could be capable of murder without them suspecting a thing
>they were just good with their social masks when it mattered because they lived in a highly superficial community that tended to ignore unpleasantness instead of dealing with it.
That's pretty much what my point was, but you phrased it better
>they were from a boring little town and they looked and acted mostly normal
this is one of the reasons I listed as to why Columbine became part of popular culture. People got the impression from this very shocking and new kind of story, that a seemingly normal teenager could plan and carry out an act of mass-murder without anybody seeing it coming. Obviously that's not accurate, there were multiple signs that they could (and would) do something drastic
>>29663194
>Obviously that's not accurate, there were multiple signs that they could (and would) do something drastic
yep, it's just that no one suspected they'd actually hurt people. it's an interesting comment on the community they lived in, that their threats were not taken seriously and were ignored just like their pain wasn't taken seriously and was ignored.
they had relatively easy lives compared to a lot of people but most on r9k know that it doesn't matter because if you can't hack it socially, life can be pure suffering. when everyone around you is pressuring you to "be normal" but you know it's all bullshit anyway because your best probably won't be good enough, you end up resenting and pushing away society altogether. most go NEET or hermit, some go suicide, a few become mass shooters. this is why i fully believe that society does play at least some part in every single one of these mass shootings. even if it is ultimately the responsibility of the shooters, society needs to wake up and realize that there's a reason these people ended up wanting to kill everyone around them in the first place and i don't think it's because they're just unfeeling psychopaths who enjoy killing.
life in america is not good for lots of people and the shootings are partly a symptom of that.
Myth: they were bullied
Reality:
One was a psychopath and the other was his "protoge"
They planned to kill everyone. They wanted total carnage.
That's not a "revenge against bullies" payback. It was a massacre and it would have been far bigger had their gas cannisters exploded.
>>29663431
Oh look, another Dave Cullen shill. It's well documented that they were bullied despite picking on other kids as well.
And no, Dylan wasn't just a puppy dog following Eric. That's just a theory with no basis in reality that helped sell Cullen's book.
stop spreading lies
>>29663572
>It's well documented that they were bullied despite picking on other kids as well
They gave way more than they got.
>>29657282
>why is the most successful school shooter better than two autistic fuck-ups?
Guys I need some help. I was reading some archives of Lanza's messages and I need to know what he was listening to. This is what he said. Link is dead.
"That song really irritates me. This is the much better one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYThXZdLaX0
In any event, that "Pumped Up Kicks" song isn't even about Robert Hawkins."
>>29663602
sure they did, buddy. The social outcasts bullied more than they were bullied, that's totally how it goes.
Why do you think the first thing that was reported was them being bullied instead of them acting like thugs and bullies to everyone smaller than them?
>gave way more than they got
if they had ever done anything like the ketchup and dog shit incidents, we would have heard about it from the people they picked on. They were computer geeks with a lot of pent-up anger, who occasionally called other kids names. Not much more than that
The biggest thing that separated them from the average Littleton teenager was the van incident, but they were not power-bullies
>>29663654
I tried to google the part of the link that comes after "v="
usually the results include the original title of the video, but I think it's been too long since it's been deleted because there was nothing
What do you lads think of the multiple shooters theory? Over 50 witnesses reported more than one shooter. From what I've seen it's pretty weak and can be explained by a variety of things. (ballistics, confusion because they took their coats off, etc.) , but it is interesting to explore.
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-28-04/discussion.cgi.6.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/columbineeight.php
>>29663431
full of shit
>>29663572
this guy knows what's up
>>29663602
haha
>>29663648
ridiculous to call eric and dylan more autistic than chomo.
>>29663654
can't tell you exactly what it is but
http://columbinemassacre.forumotion.com/t40-regalsin-s-tribute-to-robert-hawkins
>I felt like I just did drugs watching that...
>>29663689
>They were computer geeks with a lot of pent-up anger, who occasionally called other kids names. Not much more than that
this. they wanted to be big. that was a main reason for the massacre. they weren't bullied to death but they were permanent outcasts with no social value.
>Have an interest in researching crime
>Columbine has always been intriguing to me, as to what happened, who Eric and Dylan were
>Mfw this thread
>>29663648
Cho was 6 years older and might have had actual autism, you know. Verbal communication was difficult for him
Eric and Dylan were edgy failed normies and now they have a lot of fangirls and neckbeards worshiping them, not what you'd call autists, even if somehow internet badasses like you think that only articles of clothing like fedoras and trenchcoats are what makes a person autistic
I've done a lot of research on them because it's just interesting to learn about. I do feel bad for them, they threw theirs and others lives away.
>P.S.
>Dave Cullen is a massive lying faggot
>>29657397
>>29657408
>they weren't executed
Is this America or Sweden?
>>29657767
Is this the one with the security camera style footage of a library shooting? I watched a scene like that and it was uncomfy af.
>>29663756
>Over 50 witnesses reported more than one shooter
>more than one shooter
i wonder why?
no, but really, i don't think any of the reports of different shooters were accurate for the reasons you stated. it's an interesting possibility to consider though.
>>29664034
>>29663756
Sorry, obviously meant to put more than two.
>>29657090
fuck those normies. commentus originale.
>>29657767
>>29664024
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB-uO9xE20c
>>29664004
more like norway
>>29663840
>>29663936
Never said Cho wasn't autistic, but he accomplished his goal unlike Eric and Dylan. They didn't even kill the people tormenting them, just some unfortunate kids who didn'f get away in time.
>>29658691
the nobodies
niggger
>>29664102
>2:00 to 3:00
being autistic, I have trouble finding it disturbing how the girl screams as Andre taunts her. Maybe because she sounds like the kid in that video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
I can see why people find it disturbing though. Still my favorite part, but I think IRL people would be more likely to freeze and/or sob than to scream at a shooter, that's like asking to be shot
>>29664210
people weren't really tormenting cho by college, i thought. they just avoided him because he was weird. where did you read that he killed his bullies?
>>29664252
one or two people did talk to the shooters but i don't think anyone screamed at them (just screamed in fear). mostly it was sobbing, begging or tense conversational exchange from what i understand.
>>29664329
at 2:20 andre sits down and starts making fun of a girl, she tells him to go away and he starts laughing at her like she was his little sister
>>29664396
well eric and dylan did laugh (mostly dylan) and they taunted and insulted plenty of the students before they killed them. they had lost it completely by then and were apparently enjoying themselves though i think eric completely snapped out of it when he accidentally broke his nose.
>>29664329
That's the thing, Cho didn't have any bullies, he channeled all of the unhappiness he had from being alienated into violence. My understanding is that Eric and Dylan were targeted by several classmates and were bullied relentlessly, but they didn't seem to seek out specific people to kill, they just killed kids who were unable to get out of the school.
>>29664102
I wish they also had them firing on cops, because that happened throughout the shooting.
>>29664329
also forgot to mention that in Columbine's Patti Nielson 911 call, you hear the shooters yelling several times but you never hear the students scream. I think it's because IRL, when people are truly afraid, they only scream when they are surprised or in pain (though adrenalin helps ignore pain from even gunshot wounds in these situations), otherwise they hold their breath and try not to get the shooters' attention.
>>29664444
nice get, but that's unrelated to the video
>>29664469
also, eric and dylan were planning to blow up the cafeteria. they even talked about "if" their friends survived. they wanted carnage. luckily for most people there, their plans basically fell apart when it was already too late.
however, they did wander around the school after the library shootings and look into classrooms and didn't shoot anyone. there's a possibility that they either gave up out of boredom or guilt or coming back to reality.
>>29658691
>not Burn
I could see them listening to this the day before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsM4FM3MiK0
>>29664520
>nice get, but that's unrelated to the video
who cares? why is a movie more interesting than the real thing. i don't understand.
>>29664518
well this movie wasn't meant to be a recreation of columbine, there were a lot of similarities, but differences too: not just the guys but the lack of a cafeteria attack/bombing, the fact that they stole the guns, not using pipe bombs, they got to the school in the same car instead of both having their own cars, etc.
>>29664599
I was just talking about the girl screaming at Andre being unrealistic, I know the shooters taunted students and laughed, there's nothing surprising about that
>>29664649
>I know the shooters taunted students and laughed,
you're not the only one reading the thread. not everyone knows much about columbine and facts are good. it's more relevant than a boring movie that you're actually saying is unrealistic yourself.
>>29664710
It's because earlier I thought you were saying
>I don't think anyone was screaming at Andre in that scene
now I see you were talking about Columbine
I was just pointing out that one thing about the movie though, otherwise it feels way more genuine than the vast majority of movies related to school-shootings, despite being low-budget. It was done right in general, as far as "found-footage" films go
Why was everything better in the 90s, even the school shooters?
>>29664795
>now I see you were talking about Columbine
yeah, i was basically agreeing that it didn't/wouldn't happen that way.
This thread needs a tribute video to Eric and Dylan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOoJDMg_CHg
>>29664895
shitty music existed in the 90s too, you can bet Eric and Dylan hated it as well
the only thing we're really lacking these days are movies that are "so bad they're good". The 90s were the golden era of that type of cinema, now when movies are bad it's in an obnoxious, "special effects but shitty everything" kind of way. Otherwise, the last few years haven't been so bad if you don't count facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJxRdzinO_w
>>29663840
>. they wanted to be big. that was a main reason for the massacre. they weren't bullied to death but they were permanent outcasts with no social value.
This, they were cut off from their peers. (At least partially because they were kinda dicks)
They lacked self esteem, so they tried to make something great to be proud of. (Great as in big and significant)
They wanted the fame the Oklahoma bombers got.
It was Eric's idea, but Dylan was down to massacre people too
>>29665032
>youtube channel dedicated to columbine
this is what sets it apart from other shootings. No other massacre is that famous and researched and discussed
>>29665240
>It was Eric's idea, but Dylan was down to massacre people too
personally, i think it may have been both of their independent ideas and then one of them brought it up for real and they realized they both wanted to do it.
someone on a columbine website brought this passage up.
from dylan's journal on 2-2-98:
>The zombies & their society band together & try to destroy what is superior & what they don't understand & are afraid of.
>Soon... either ill commit suicide, or I'll get w. [edited] & it will be NBK for us.
NBK was what dylan called the plans for massacre (natural born killers) and from this passage it appears he wanted to do it with a girl at first, like in the movie.
>My hapiness. her hapiness. NOTHING else matters. Ive been caught w. most of my crimes -- xpl drinking, smoking, & the house vandalism & the pipe bombs. If by fate's choice, [edited] didn't love me, id slit my wrist & blow up atlanta strapped to my neck.
eric harris started his journal on 4-4-98, two months later.
i believe the notion that dylan followed along with eric's idea is probably wrong.
>>29665339
eric started his journal 4/10/98, i mean
>>29665339
nice find, I'll be sure to use that when someone brings up the Dylan "sadpuppy" Klebold + Eric "Manson" Harris idea
>>29665339
>>29665355
though just to be fair, i must bring up the fact that it's possible that by NBK, dylan didn't mean blowing up or shooting up the school and meant more of a bonnie and clyde/mickey and mallory type NBK and his plans morphed later on.
but i do believe he was planning on something violent before he and eric decided to do it together.
video of the library's aftermath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKSZRsZeJs
this is a gem
>>29665399
at least it proves that he wasn't necessarily innocent
>>29657295
Who was your brother? I'm not sure if you're being serious or not
>>29666215
My brother was Corey DePooter, he was shot in the pooter hole multiple times before being shot in the head.
>>29657090
I can't fathom why people would make fanart of fucking Dylan and Eric but yeah fuck it why not.
Nothing surprises me at this rate.
>>29666853
Did you know there are gay fanfictions of Eric and Dylan written by furiously horny fangirls of Columbine?don't ask why I know
>>29666925
Now I know the old adage says not to stick your dick in crazy, but...
>ywn get your dick sucked by a Columbine fangirl while wearing sunglasses and a trenchcoat
>>29666983
this robot could get laid that way
he's a guy who said last April that he was going to show up to his school in a trenchcoat on April 20th. He dyed his hair so that it has the color of Dylan's hair and Eric's hair too. the paper is holding was his attempt at a time stamp lol
I call him klerris
>>29667404
>Tell me, Kleriss...have the lambs stopped screaming?
>>29667468
shit I didn't think of that
lol'd hard
The Columbine shooters were not robots. They were just edgy teenagers.
Elliot Rodger and Seung-Hui Cho were true robots.
>>29657649
Just watched it. Pretty decent.
>People don't realize these threads are started by the FBI so they can place the IPs of everyone who posts in them on a watch list
When they come busting down your door, now you know.
>>29667538
This guy too. He actually killed Stacies 20 years before it was cool, 14 of them and no male casualties
I love him, too bad this is the only pic of him available and Canadian media was secretive about him so as to not turn him into a celebrity
For those who still believe they weren't bullied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzSeL4kSDBw
You're all fucking idiots. The 3 robots are
>Elliot
>Eric
>Dylan
All trolling aside, Robots aren't schoolshooters, that's /fa/. Robots are generally normal looking people that are socially awkward and lonely.
Cho and Lanza are just aspies. Unless you're trying to lie about your robot status, 99% of robots aren't like that. We're mostly Elliots who try to look nice and generally aren't too bad but still end up getting rejected. And we have that Eric edginess in us.
>>29667951
Elliot was very much an Aspie, Cho had something else related to selective mutism along with autism
Eric and Dylan were failed normies, not robots. They were socially competent for the most part.
> 99% of robots aren't like that
That's so ridiculously inaccurate lol, I'd say at least 1/3rd of robots are unironically on the spectrum
>and we have that Eric edginess in us
>>/b/
>>29668029
>failed normies
You're stupid. Robots literally ARE failed normies.
>1/3 of robots are on spectrum
No. That is not true. Look at most PYS threads on r9k, most people here are pretty normal looking. Look at almost every thread, we have the ability to decide what is/isn't autistic.
Cho and Lanza aren't robot, if they posted here everyone would call them autistic.
>>29667736
Thank you, anon. Fuck the media. I've never heard of this guy.
>>29668248
>You're stupid. Robots literally ARE failed normies.
I see that you're new. Failed normies are people who become social outcasts despite having everything going for them. Decent looks, social skills, grades, don't have autism or crippling social anxiety/depression or other mental illness.
>I don't know what autism is
>is that like the same thing as being retarded?
>or is that like down syndrome
Educate yourself, you can't tell when someone is autistic from typing. High-functioning autists, by definition, have average or superior intelligence despite poor understanding of social behavior and how to get a gf.
plus like I said, Elliot was an Aspie
>>29668389
>I see that you're new
The newfag calling me new, classic.
>Failed normies are people who become social outcasts despite having everything going for them.
You are wrong. This is what r9k says but if you actually stop memeing and trolling you would realize this is simply a failed Chad. A failed normie is just an average guy that girls are repulsed by, usually because of their socially awkwardness.
>Educate yourself, you can't tell when someone is autistic from typing.
I'll say this again - Majority of people here are able to know what is autistic and isn't. Putting guns to your head and taking screenshots, 99% here would say you have autism. Boarding your windows because you don't want to see the sun, 99% would say you have autism.
Just because you are trying to sound as cyborg as possible doesn't mean most Robots are actually like that. Fuck off faggot, normalfags and their silly "hurr in order to be robot you have to be like adam lanza!!"
>>29668456
>I'll say this again - Majority of people here are able to know what is autistic and isn't. Putting guns to your head and taking screenshots, 99% here would say you have autism. Boarding your windows because you don't want to see the sun, 99% would say you have autism.
Funny now that you say that, since you were accusing me of "memeing" on the definition of robots, you're doing the same with autists. You don't have the slightest clue what high-functioning autism is and what it really does. I could educate you, but I don't even think it's worth it because you're wrong on everything else too
Lanza was not just autistic; he was anorexic and psychotic, so obviously those are not requirements for being a robot.
The typical robot has no friends, is NEET, above the age of 20 and is a virgin. What you're describing is a numale, aka a beta male. There is something worse than a beta male and it's called being a robot. Clearly you're the failed normie trying to fit in
>XDD social awkwardness
for a robot it goes beyond that, but you couldn't even understand
>>29668599
Holy shit you are retarded.
>muhh high functioning autism!!
>U DONT UNDERSTAND BRO
lol just because your retarded ass has autism doesn't mean your the average robot. Stupid motherfucker.
Also
>disrespecting Our God Supreme Elliot
>thinking hes a robot
Get the fuck out faggot. Blasphemy is disallowed.
>The typical robot is NEET
HAHHAA he fell for the NEET meme. You do realize that almost all those threads are a joke right and made to piss off wage cucks right? lmao
>The typical robot has no friends, above the age of 20 and is a virgin.
Yes, everything I described. Being socially awkward and lonely.
What you're describing is
>muhh high functioning autism, gotta look extra unhuman like Cho and Lanza, gotta be weird as shit
That's just a meme. Robots aren't actually like that. Robots aren't like Lanza who don't give a shit about anything except mass murder. That is a meme. Robots are mostly Rodger and Harris - virgins and lonely and frustrated about it.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Everything you say is so scrambled lmao
>>29668682
So much wrong with this post. Funny that you're trying to call me retard but you can only speak in memes to defend yourself
First of all, the ridiculous behaviors you described as autistic can be associated with just about everything else, paranoid disorders, mental retardation, OCD, etc. Autistic people who are this extreme are typically not high-functioning, they can't function like normal people and need to be supervised.
Did you know that people like Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla and several others were suspected of being on the spectrum? That's because HF autism doesn't affect the way you look, it's a neurological condition that manifests itself around the age of 4. It affects your ability to socialize and understand non-verbal communication. It also affects your thinking, the way you speak (always pronouncing words perfectly), makes you more prone to be obsessed on a certain subject, increases your ability to memorize information and numbers, aversion to eye contact, things like that.
If you had actually been on this board for more than a few months, you'd know that a shitton of people here are either diagnosed or suspects they are autistic. Adam Lanza is among the worst possible examples of an autistic person you could think of, while there are millions of adults that you can only tell are autistic because they never look you in the eye or want to talk to other people.
Not all robots are autistic, but more robots than you think are autistic. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't say unironic threads about it everyday
And for the third time, Rodger was very autistic.
Maybe it's hard for you to imagine NEETs being a real thing since you're still in high school, but it does happen. Lack of motivation for higher education and working, because that's what being a robot is.
if you want to respond, try using more than memes or "wow good job fedora man"
>>29668682
Also, nobody on /r9k/ who isn't a summerfag thinks Harris was a robot you complete newfag. That's not even up for debate.
>>29661940
>>"I'm such nice guy, why nobody likes me and I can't get a gf"
except only normie neckbeards say that
Bumping for these edgy fags
Eric Harris was a rejected, angry, spoiled, lonely, weak, bullied and virgin lonely guy. He didnt want to live in Littleton and didnt want to spend the rest of his life in misery so he decided to massacre everyone and kill himself later. From my understandin, he was bullied by the jocks and the other students avoided him because he acted like a dick and was a nazi. He rebelled against people and society probably because of his undocumented social failures with women, sports and people in general. Bullying may have contributed to it, but he just hated people in general and imagined that life would be like high school forever. Thats why he killed himself when almost graduating: because he didnt want to live that shit anymore.
Dylan was another loser with one hell of a goofy face. He was intelligent and got angry because of his failure as a social and popular person, much like eric. He was one depressed fuck who had a lot of anger but could not do anything about because he had respect for his parents and was a nerd. He was horrible with women and was a personification of the >tfw no gf meme. He wasnt into guns, wasnt into nazism and wasnt into natural selection. Just hated everything including himself in general.
They met thru a friend who introduced them to each other. Maybe if they didnt meet the shooting would not have happened. Maybe dylan would have hanged himself and maybe eric would have gone to prison. But we have to agree that once they really got to know each other they bonded because they knew they were losers and wanted to get off the ride with style.
TL;DR: two losers in the american dream cant handle them feels and snap
>>29657090
massacre time
>>29669821
Thank you for not buying into the dave cullen meme of Dylan being a sad little puppy controlled by the big bad Harris who was secretly a womanizer (???) and the ultimate evil
And yeah, you got it right surprisingly. It's incredible how most people still haven't come to this simple, yet accurate conclusion
>>29657649
This movie is better than Zero Day because the ending is something you are not expecting and leaves you thinking "what the fuck"? when the credits roll
>>29657090
He sounds like a retard. I thought the "natural selection" bullshit was made up by liberals back when we watched the documentary in school but apparently it's real.
These guys are like the poster boys for edgy 90s nihilism, they're like fucking cartoon characters. Fuck them, can't believe anyone is stupid enough to care about pieces of shit like this.
They weren't poor bullied kids, they were retarded assholes.
>>29667736
>Male survivors of the massacre have been subjected to criticism for not intervening to stop Lepine. In an interview immediately after the event, a reporter asked one of the men why they "abandoned" the women when it was clear that Lepine's targets were women.
>"Yet the defining image of contemporary Canadian maleness is not M Lepine/Gharbi but the professors and the men in that classroom, who, ordered to leave by the lone gunman, meekly did so, and abandoned their female classmates to their fate-an act of abdication that would have been unthinkable in almost any other culture throughout human history."
Clearly it's the men's fault who didn't try to fight a semi automatic rifle with their bare hands. Fucking canadian betas.
>>29671086
why did none of the women fight back
>>29668350
there was a movie made about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXs8Ds71YaI
>>29672603
because he had a rifle pointing at them you idiot
>>29671086
the gun he used had 20-30 round magazine, what the fuck were they supposed to do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Mini-14#Mini-14
>>29672655
But they were gonna die anyway
they could atleasr have run away
>>29668873
Kid, most Robots are upset virgins. That is it. Make a thread asking who has autism here and if you find a single one, let alone 5, you'd have somewhat of a point. But that won't happen because almost nobody does.
There aren't actually many NEETs here.
>he fell for the NEET meme
>>29672763
>they could at least have run away
where? they're trapped in a classroom huddled in a corner
Columbine fascinates me more than any other shooting. I've read about it many, many times.
I wish there was more information, I wish we had the basement tapes.
I'm not sure what it is about this shooting but it feels like there's something mystical or mysterious about it compared to all the others. Maybe it's because it was the first big one that inspired everyone else, but there's something about it.
>>29657506
What did Cullen get wrong?
FBI psychiatrists agreed Eric was a psychopath. He showed all the hallmarks of one.
If bullying was the motive for the attack, they would have targeted the bullies. Instead their victims were all random and they wanted to kill everybody in the cafeteria. They wantes a kill count higher than the OKC bombing by McVeigh.
Dylan was just your run of the mill suicidal depressed teen.
But please tell me how you know more than the experts.
>>29666782
Kek'd audibly. RIP Mr. DePooter.
>>29657197
>implying
There will never be a shooter (or group of shooters) that will reach cult status like Eric and Dylan. Whenever someone thinks of a school shooting they think of Columbine.
