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Who's r9k voting for?
Trump of course
What are you, a cuck?
>>29623673
>rednecks and racist white trash vote trump
>minorities and non-racists vote Hillary
/thread
Just summed up american politics for you.
>>29623698
>voting for anybody
>calling others cucks
Donald J. Trump, because I'm not a cuckold.
Trump because of immigration policy mainly and Hillary is the epitome of everything disgusting about politics.
>>29623673
Not American but it definitely looks like Trump isn't going to win. Sadly.
>>29623721
Say hi to your wife's son for me, cuckold faggot.
If I was American I'd vote Trump but I'm Aussie.
My big mama j
literally going to save the earth <3
I'm voting for the gun in my mouth
>>29623748
Just like all the other times he was supposed to lose in the primaries
Shill
Trump
i hate all of them but trump is entertaining and calling out some legitimate problems that no one else has the guts to point out. he doesn't know jack about policy though, but anything but hillary is my mantra
>>29623756
Don't get butthurt cause I figured out american politics Trumplet.
>>29623765
>stein
THE NOSE KNOWS
>>29623748
This, Hilary is on the raise and I see more support for her than Trump currently. I think they are both shit but can't argue with facts and what you're seeing in the media right now, Trump's campaign is starting to fall apart slowly. I imagine by November, Hilary's campaign and support will TRUMP (Pun intended) his, which is kind of sad because we'll have our first female president. I bet Washington, Jefferson and Franklin would roll over in their graves if they knew.
>>29623788
Shill? I'm not American, and I don't want Hillary to win you idiot.
>>29623765
if bernie isnt on the ballot im going for jill.
fuck shillary
Ironically, Trump is the only one left in the race talking about the real issues. so I'm going for Trump.
>>29623806
She'll get crushed in the debates. Trump will hold no punches when it comes to all the shady shit Hillary's been involved in. Watch this speech, his attacks are actually effective and are supported with facts and references to corrupt dealings Hillary has been involved with over the course of her entire career. The mass media didn't cover it at all because it would have actually hurt Hillary rather than just being another ''le silly drumpf soundbite''.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUW2-MUonbo
During the debates the media won't be able to spin or twist his words or hide the truth about Hillary.
I also think if the UK's economic situation gets resolved by November and the religion of piss plans more attacks that will only boost Trump, and I think both are extremely possible.
>>29623824
Both of them are awful choices.
If I make it to the polls, Trump, but I might be too lazy. Depends on whether it seems like my state will swing hard to Hilary in which case my vote is useless.
>>29623956
Whoops that was a misquote.
Although Stein would be better than most of them desu.
>>29623956
>in which case my vote is useless.
ur fugging dumb breh
Voting takes a level of being self involved that I have never achieved. And never will [because you have to behave ironically like a drone despite being so egotistical. I'd like democracy if it was involved in mandatory voting, rather than shrugging and using the word alienation. And felons should obviously vote, seeing as how they have an obvious problem with how the world works. Alot of them should allowed to anyway.
But yeah, fuck democracy as it currently is.
Gary johnson. because fuck the demicunts and the republicants. And fuck jill stein right in her commie asshole.
>>29623951
I'm so hyped, when do debates start?
>>29623673
douche vs turd sandwich
Hillary is the douche, but at least she won't make you violently ill. Trump scapegoats non-whites, openly supports torture, scams people, changes his stance on policies every few weeks (meaning he doesn't even support himself, apparently), and thinks net neutrality is censorship.
I don't think either of them are really great people, but doing research on Hillary I found out she thinks development of nanotechnology is a good thing and supports net neutrality. Trump's limit of technological experience is his TV show and being misinformed on net neutrality. That's enough for me to support Hillary.
I've never seen anyone say "I support Trump because of his policies on X, Y, and Z."
Most Trump supports just go "Yeah fuck those Mexicans, Muslims, black people, and Jews. Make America great again!"
I have a hard time believing a billionaire who scammed people multiple times actually cares about the average person.
Trump is the best candidate in 50 years. Probably longer.
Even if he wasn't, if you don't enforce the borders, you don't have a country. Simple as that. Hillary is going to legalize 20 million illegals, encouraging A LOT more to come over illegally like promises of amnesty always do.
Trump is the official /r9k/ candidate.
Trump
>there are literally people out there willing to vote another Soros puppet into office
You are like roaches to him, he is the great (((manipulator))) who pulls the strings.
>>29624028
late september i think
>>29624046
I can't wait for the roasting
I think Jeb is still trying to find his nuts
>>29623673
Neither of those fucks.
If Bernie doesn't win the FBI Primary, I'm voting for Jill Stein. It's a long shot but there's never been a better year for third parties and she's the only one I trust to veto the shit out of the TPP.
>Voting for a woman
I'm not American but this will decide how the rest of the world sees you.
I consider myself pretty leftist. I REALLY wish Bernie could have won. It hurts to know there will never be another candidate like him in a long time. And the green party can't win in a FPTP system.
So I'm voting for Trump now. Even though he's kind of dick. It's weird... but he definitively makes the most sense after Sanders. The republican party have been total jerks for the longest time, but they are broken now. Trump will reform them (hopefully). They USED to be the pro-workers party. They can be again.
Hillary is "new left" identity politics. It's ALL BULLSHIT. She'll only help the corporations. She's an imperialist too. SHE'S THE DEVIL.
>>29624064
Yep Hillary is basically all the worst aspects of both parties (an SJW neocon), while Trump is the best of both (a populist nationalist).
>>29624064
Bernie is already way too old to be president anyway.
>>29624034
I support Trump because of his policies on illegal immigration, economic policies designed to favor American workers and businesses, and re-negotiation of trade deals where the United States is being taken advantage of. I believe the nation has the responsibility of looking after it's own people first and before we get involved with other countries and boost up other countries economically we have to take care of the various glaring issues going on domestically.
Hillary would just be more of the same and ultimately lead to the decline of the US as a world superpower.
>>29623792
>figured out politics
>is going to vote for a criminal establishment whore who takes millions from Islamic Theocracies
Boy that sure does really make a man think about the current situation in the current year.
>>29623673
>>29623721
>Voting for a criminal socialist who had the only witness to her crimes killed before testimony.
When you think about it, maybe the elections are rigged.
>>29623673
>tfw registered independent
>>29623765
fnbogrbrgi
>>29623765
literally voting for a communist........just move to china or somthing faggot
>>29623806
That's media lies dude. They're trying to demoralize Trump supporters. Don't you listen to the daily shoah? The poll results are skewed like 6% toward Hillary.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/polling_fantasies_heavily_biased_against_trump.html
>>29623765
She looks too much like Soros
>>29624110
That's a little odd too. Almost feels like he was controlled opposition somehow. It doesn't really make sense since he was so popular that it's really hurting the democrats now. Maybe the plan was just to have someone so socialist that he couldn't possibly win, but it backfired and he almost won. Partly because Hillary is so horrible.
they said brexit wouldn't happen
don't ever doubt patriotism
>>29624124
>maybe
ehehehe
Protip: nearly every state where Hillary beat Bernie had election irregularities and voter suppression, and the bigger her win, the more occasions of both there were.
>>29623721
I'm a minority who will vote Trump. I know some faggot whites who will vote Hillary.
Who cares, vote in the local elections and still most things don't matter.
>>29624168
I am not at all a conspiracy theorist, but I wonder how much impact her husband has on the polls and what's going on behind the scenes.
>>29624161
>Don't you listen to the daily shoah?
I'm half-Filipino and half-Argentinian and I'm voting for Trump. I would have preferred Bernie, but I'll live with the non-globalist.
>>29623765
(((Stein))) isn't doing anything useful and the Johnson I'm feeling isn't good enough.
>>29624192
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/06/28/the-daily-shoah-91-episode-88-part-4-of-14-standard-knife-party/
what do robots think of trumps policies on abortion and import tariffs?
Hillary's policies are closer to my best interest than Trump's, but I'm okay with suffering if it means that leftists suffer more.
So it's probably Hillary. Trump isn't anti-intellectual enough to gain my support.
I'm Latino 4 trump. I got my parents to vote for him in the primary and they're going to vote for him in the general election
The treatment of Trump supporters at rallies by BLM and marxist college students is disgusting. They go to Trump rallies and violently attack people and call them slurs. Old people, young people, men, women, girls, boys, it doesn't matter. These savages prey on everyone. I'm voting Trump out of spite just to shut these thugs up.
lol I can't believe /r9k/ has such normie political views.
have you not seen demographic charts? do you really want to live in Mexico?
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/08/20/01demographics.h34.html
>>29623765
If we had some sort of ranked preference voting system, she might have a good chance to win. Very few people actually PREFER Hillary.
>>29624263
Normies aren't a thing. You're normal too.
>>29623673
Your vote does not matter. It's clear no one has learned anything from the past 15 years.
>>29624231
It's all secondary to immigration, see:
>>29624263
If any of you have lived in a hispanic area and a lily white suburban utopia, you know why it matters.
>>29624275
>"normies are a social construct!"
that's the most normie possible thing you could say. you had to say "not a thing" too. yuck
>>29624304
>If any of you have lived in a hispanic area and a lily white suburban utopia, you know why it matters.
I've spent plenty of time in them. Never had a problem.
>>29624282
>not using the real pic
>>29624161
reality has a well known liberal bias
>>29624275
Normalfags are a thing. Simply because the poster may or may not be a part of that group does not eliminate their existence.
>>29624034
go read about how Hillary treats her SS and white house workers and tell me you believe she "cares about the average person", you stupid deluded cunt
>>29624336
go jack off to bill maher you cuck
>>29624282
Are we LARPing as enlightened euphoric Youtube atheists on Tool video comments in 2007?
>right boot, left boot it's all the same. the system is FUCKED. your vote doesn't matter. wake up sheeple! go look up "joe rogan dmt". expand your mind.
If you vote Hillary you want
>China to keep fucking us over
>the US to rely more on cheap labor and H1Bs, further weakening our manufacturing industries
>more middle east bullshit
>more military spending
>more drugs to get into the US from the mexican border
>more rapefugees to come in the US (despite a lot of them not being from Syria)
>less freedom of speech
>more white guilt
etc.
I will be voting republican for the first time ever.
Wanna see this country fall apart.
>>29624231
>on abortion
I'm not sure what his policies are anymore now. I really, really don't want any woman to be forced to go through a pregnancy she didn't want. But Trump is running for the republicans and he probably had to say a bunch of really stupid shit to win the nomination. And again to get the conservative vote in the GE.
Hopefully he'll do the right thing when the time comes (possibly part of his healthcare reform).
>import tariffs
I really want the US to reindustrialize. I think it's the only way to protect the US workers. If that's what it takes, then sure, tariffs. It'll probably hurt at first though. But in the end it'll be worth it. The US could be REALLY competitive if it wanted to (while still protecting its workers from abuse) and tariffs might not even be necessary if other precautions are taken.
>>29624332
read my sentence again. it's not about *you* having individual problems. it's about the country becoming entirely that
>>29624353
save that autism for when you try to convince the non-edgy to vote for trump
>>29624341
>>29624322
Keep deluding yourself. You're not different from the rest of the world.
>>29624154
China is more capitalist than america you dunce.
>what are worker rights
>why do you think the Chinese work for pennies and kill themselves from factory rooftops
Also I'm voting for Jill
>>29624263
isn't that partly because mexicans and niggers die younger
>>29624336
that's sub-normie. that's bush era liberal normie. that's cat lady who shares poor quality political "memes" and lolcats on facebook in 2014 level pleb. please delete.
i hope Trump wins.
its become vary hard to say "i'm proud to be an american" with all this cuck degeneracy going on
>>29624379
If they didn't matter Trump wouldn't have gotten elected and Britain wouldn't have gotten brexit.
It's possible for them to steal it, I don't doubt that. But Hillary v Bernie proved that they prefer to use "legitimate" methods to manipulate voting. Direct fraud is a nuclear method they seem to try to avoid.
I thought most of /r9k/ was NEET?
Trumps cutting NEETbucks bruhs.
Jill Stein.
All of American politics is too far right.
>>29624403
Having borders isn't edgy. You're just a tool that was told to hate Trump by TV so you do. lmao "reality has a liberal bias" i cant believe I read that on 4chan in the current year.
your shirt:
>you people laugh at me because i'm different. i laugh at you because you're all the same.
>>29624483
this. Neoliberalism is basically now Right wing politics now.
Would I vote for a populist who have proven himself/herself to not hold any water?
Neither of them are good. Regardless of what you think of Bernies socialist policies he at least seemed to have some truth behind the idea that he aims to fix the political system.
If he was an option you should vote for that.
The rest of that stuff is just minor in my opinion. Economics is secondary to population representation in politics.At least for relatively wealthy people like me who will float regardless of what happens really
>>29624392
Yeah, he's not really better in any way.
But the thing is that the media will try to paint this like Hillary is clearly better than Trump no matter how bad she is, when she's not clearly better in any way and could theoretically be worse depending on how you look at it.
As Jill Stein tweeted, Donald Trump has a record of saying horrible things, but Hillary Clinton has a record of doing them.
>>29624483
Yeah open borders, gay marriage, on-demand abortion, and a massive welfare state is way too far right man.
Am I being trolled? I literally feel like I'm in Youtube comments circa 2007. I can't believe you're all so pleb. Even normie liberals are at least obnoxious in a new way.
>>29624035
trump had a good speech early on.
I wouldn't say he's the best candidate in 50 years though. he's certainly a better option than hillary
I don't care about blue-pill issues like abortion and LGBT rights. I care about immigration and the future of my people and my country -- blood and soil.
Trump will safeguard my country's borders. Hillary will let in countless numbers of foreign invaders. So the choice for me is clear, and stark.
>>29624478
It's a mostly a meme. But yeah, there are a bunch of NEETs. Doesn't mean they don't care about the greater good though.
And many of them do want jobs. And those factory jobs dont' seem half-bad desu. I wish I could work a machine and zone out all day. Not having to talk to too many people. Just making widgets. Could be like heaven for robots. Makes sense really. Those service jobs are like hell for most of us.
>>29623721
Fuck off you self-loathing suicidal white. You'd fuck a blender if it wasn't the "racist" thing to do.
The only real non-racist thing to do is stop talking about race and deny the validity of race. But the dogshit leftwing party set world peace back 50 years because it needs racial tension and borderline racewar to monetize its lazy ass no work shekel programs.
FUCK LEFTISTS
>>29624531
>tfw no qt3.14 christian GF
>>29624378
>less freedom of speech
>more white guilt
I'll give you these two. I'm afraid that a democratic president (and therefore a left leaning justice) would result in a hate speech law. But you're wrong on every other count.
>>29624537
I think Trump's an important candidate in that he's showed how effective talking down to your audience is. I think he's doing well purely because he never uses a ten-dollar word where a one-dollar word will do.
Ultamate 2016 Voting Guide:
>swing state
Hillary
>non swing state
Jill
>>29624392
What I heard is that he wants Microsoft to help him hinder the growth of ISIS through the internet (online recruiting)
>>29623721
minority voting for trump cummin thruFuck 'em both. Trump is a jew-cuck,
>>29623698
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>>29623746
>>29623791
>>29623850
>>29623951
>>29624035
>>29624040
>>29624064
>>29624113
>>29624179
>>29624236
>>29624441
Fuck off back to /pol/ shill faggots, nobody cares about your Jew conspiracies.
>>29624516
>Economics is secondary to population representation in politics.
Which population is being represented? The population of Mexico?
If you don't have borders you don't have a nation. This isn't negotiable. Trump is the only option if you actually value America as a nation.
I'm not even exaggerating. A vote against trump is a vote for literal foreigners to inherit the country. People who are not americans now, who are outside of the country now or here illegally will inherit the country your grandfather fought and died for.
>>29624566
Is it terrible that I think Hillary wasn't half bad looking bad then?
>non whites voting for trump
literally cuckold tier, what's next you are going to abort your mud babies?
>>29624483
you make me fucking sick
yes I'm mad
>>29624587
They aren't real dude. just /pol/locks pretending
>>29624238
same here
>tfw unoriginal comment mutes me
>>29624587
>implying affirmative action isn't racist
>implying honest, law-abiding minorities want more illegals to come in and fuck things up, increasing racial tensions
>>29624588
Whats wrong with wanting to vote for Jill Stein?
>>29624587
>implying we don't have it better with a majority white population
>implying white people don't have the civilizational midas touch
>not wanting to be the token minority in a cozy, perfect whiteopia with beautiful well-mannered white people
>>29624556
How could you possibly say I'm wrong about the H1Bs? do you not know anything about Hillary?
>>29623765
Aww yeah nigga
I wish Sanders/Stein was a thing. Bernie better nut up and fuck the Dem's shit up if he looses at least.
Trump is literally a meme candidate. That's why /pol/ like him.
>>29624483
Her whole life is a meme
>>29624578
I mean she had to be kinda qt for Bill to put a bun in her oven
>>29624661
God damn, she was pretty gorgeous.
>>29624613
or maybe they realize they like living in america, and the people who make up america are mostly white. if you change who the people are, you change what the country is.
you cant just replace an entire population and say 'lol its the same look at the name and borders :p"
rofl @ idiots who think a nonwhite america will be just as prosperous and safe.
>>29624636
"All of American politics is too far right"
you are literally against democracy. You want america to turn into the UK
>>29623721
>Non racist
>hillary went to a halloween party with blackface with her husband once
>there are pictures
Is this bait?
>>29624655
>unironically wanting socialism
Step aside, kiddo, adults are talking.
>>29624628
>affirmative action
Dude affirmative action is such a limp wrist attempt at sating racial tensions. You honestly think white people are losing out to brownies because of fucking affirmative action? Damn man just look at the stats. Nobody enforces it. And when they do its because the employer literally called the applicant a nigger in the interview.
Hillary for the NEETbux
>>29624658
He's looking around for funding now, so this idea that he's "self-funding" and therefore above politics as usual is quickly disappearing. Or at least should be.
>>29624661
If there's anything Monica showed America, it's that the Clinton marriage is a marriage of convenience and mutual empowerment. If there was ever any emotion, I doubt there's any of it left now.
>>29624715
This is the only acceptable reason to go for Hillary. Any other is cuck tier.
>>29623673
Trump so that he can ban all muslims
>tfw when terrorist attacks drop in the US
Pic related was the best option to run the country, but he had to stick his dick in crazy. Damn shame, he would've mopped the floor with Trump and Clinton on foreign policy
>>29624740
>doesn't want the normalfags to get bombed
>>29624720
>If there's anything Monica showed America, it's that the Clinton marriage is a marriage of convenience and mutual empowerment. If there was ever any emotion, I doubt there's any of it left now.
Speaking of which, does anyone else find it bizarre how little we've heard from Bill? You'd think a former president whose wife is running for his old job would have a lot to say. His silence has been deafening.
Knowing how loveless their marriage is, I've always wondered if Bill even wants Hillary to win.
>>29624749
You're normal too though. Stop deluding yourself.
>>29624720
The self-funding was always just for the nomination. And it's still pretty good. At least we know he wasn't the preferred choice of the establishment. Just someone they may have to put up with. He's gonna need A LOT of money for the GE though. Maybe he COULD finance it himself, but you can't ask too much of somebody...
>>29624713
>You honestly think white people are losing out to brownies because of fucking affirmative action
No, but favoritism in the long run only hurts minorities. And it is racist because it implies they can never be held to the same standards. But you wouldn't understand that, since you are a regressive leftist
>>29624749
I don't really mind that I just don't want dirty mudslimes in my country
I literally don't understand Trump supporters.
Why would anyone want him as a President, let alone believe he'll even be competent enough at the job.
Fucking hell, he barely has any policies. Literally all his "issues" are short talking points with little to no depth or specification.
He's L I T E R A L L Y a joke candidate. Suiting for his supporters I guess.
>>29624684
I don't see any reason to be worried about Mexicans in particular, they share Western values. America's had big immigration swells before and will again, it's kind of what the country's all about. It's not replacing, it's adding, like it always has been.
If the immigrants were mostly huge clusters of radical Muslims or North Koreans maybe there'd be reason to be worried, but they're not.
>>29624758
>normie defense force
>>29624556
Also, Hillary is very much an interventionist and always has been, so she WOULD keep us in the middle east
>>29624762
>democrats are the REAL racists
You're like 2 years behind dude. That's a cuckservative argument.
therightstuff.biz
^ get caught up
>>29624777
isreal defense force ok (((anon)))
>>29624613
If I was a brown american I'd be voting trump. I'm already here and there's no point making america worse by bringing more browns in
>>29623673
Was voting trump but all you trumpturds swayed me away from him.
It's all about that hill baby
>>29624768
There's why some people are reticent to support Trump. His supporters are his greatest weakness. He needs their votes though. Hillary has her own retards too (but they aren't as offensive (unless you dig into it)).
>>29624756
Are you kidding? He campaigns a ton for her. It's just that Trump dominates the news cycle and the media wants to paint Hillary as someone who earned everything on her own merits, not piggybacking off her successful husband
If he's taken an absence it's probably illness because he looks awful.
>>29624769
refer to:
>>29624568
If you don't support Trump it's because you haven't thought about it beyond "lol wow he said that? wat a jerk"
>>29624684
> if you change who the people are, you change what the country is.
What? That makes no fucking sense? From what I gather though you might have said if minorities suck up to white people they'll be in better standings?
Dude minorities are not your problem. The countries getting rekt by neoliberalism and the regressive rights corporate globalist policies.
You don't have jobs because they get sent off shore.
>because of captialism
You don't have a girlfriend because the women chase the chads with money
>because of the commercial culture capitalism produces.
There are immigrants coming into our country
>Because capitalism is exploiting the global economy
You're paying high taxes
>because capitalism favors the 1% and offsets cost on the middle to lower class. After all they can't afford accountants to write off their taxes.
Trump is just exploiting your xenophobia and nationalism. He's not offering solutions just scape goats. He's as bad as Hilary.
>all these fucking commies ITT
what is wrong with you people? no, really.
our forefathers fought and died and spent the last 70 years in FEAR because communists threatened everything that we stand for.
fucking cuckholds
>>29624790
Donald "bomb the hell outta 'em" Trump isn't going to be much better in that regard.
>>29624817
>I'm more worried about being offended than Hillary handing my country over to foreigners
>>29624769
That's because you're a blue-pilled sheep who gobbles up whatever lies the mainstream media feeds you.
Liberal immigration policies will fundamentally change America's culture for the worse. But for you, it's easier to just call Trump a racistsexistbigot than to have to use your brain for once.
>>29624839
this
origami salami
>>29624762
>And it is racist because it implies they can never be held to the same standards
No, it was directly conceived as a method of circumventing the entrenched racism of the American population. If you were to assume some kind of blank slate where everyone of every color gets a fair shake, sure, affirmative action would be racist in that context, but affirmative action operates from the easy assumption that racism is everywhere in society and that as a result nonwhite people cannot and will not get a fair shake. The idea aims to break this mold by forcing nonwhite people into areas where they normally hadn't been allowed in order to get a foothold there. Ideally it's a temporary measure.
And I don't think there's any grounds for saying that the assumption of a racist population is at all crazy or unwarranted.
>>29624796
"No u" does seem to be the go-to comeback for race issues among conservatives.
>>29624821
No, I don't support him cause he's a shit candidate.
All talk, no issues.
I don't give a fuck about how he says something.
>>29624848
You are the sheep. Just by your use of words, I already know you're a faggot that just parrots buzzwords and bullshit fed to you by other faggots. I don't follow the mainstream media.
>>29623673
Trump (because Hillary "gas the jamahiriya, race war 2011" Clinton absolutely must not win) and a straight ticket for the Libertarian party for everything else.
>>29624839
>handing my country over to foreigners
I do get that. Mass immigration to compensate for low birth rates (that are caused by social policies) is wrong. But why hate the Muslims in particular? Most of them are fine. They're not explody. And we're the ones bombing the crap out of them. I wouldn't want too much of them coming in like in Europe though (Western culture could very well die off in the long run there), but in the US everything's fine.
>>29624835
That's different. He keeps saying he would attack ISIS but not replace Assad in Syria, hence the "bomb the hell out of them" instead of "send a bunch more troops and do the same thing we did with Iraq"
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>>29623765
Stein is easily the least practical option of all - she makes Bernie look reasonable - but I have good reason to believe she'd at least spearhead some useful electoral reform and fight the globalist zeitgeist a bit.
If I hadn't started reading Sowell she'd probably have my vote this fall.
>>29624831
No you literally don't understand what a nation is. You think it's a set of laws? Arbitrary borders drawn on the map? A name?
The nation IS the people. People who sweat and bleed and die for the nation so that their posterity can inherit their hard work and sacrifice. Immigration is when the nation GENEROUSLY lets foreigners take a part in their story and inherit what they worked hard for, hoping they'll contribute and make it better for everyone involved.
Immigration is not an obligation or a charity effort on the part of the nation. When 60% of your population becomes immigrants and descendants of immigrants within FIFTY YEARS, without the people of the nation voting on it, that's an INVASION. The elite are literally replacing the nation with a new one because they want cheap labor and unsustainable growth.
Immigration is an existential issue for America, not merely something you secondarily consider because your life is comfy now. It's the only issue that matters before America ceases to be America anymore. Americans didn't work and bleed and die so their country could be handed over to foreigners over a 50 year period for the sake of big business. That's absolute insanity. Trump is the ONLY reasonable candidate to vote for this election if you actually care about America as a nation.
>>29624916
their religion is degenerate they have high birthrates and they generally do not integrate into western culture
Canadian here. Would vote for Trump if I could. He's the death blow to PC culture my country needs.
>>29624832
Oh yeah because our forefathers have always been on the right side of economic issues.
>genocide of indigenous people
>slavery of non indigenous people
>Segregation of minority groups
>>29624883
Have you read any of his policy papers? You're repeating memes the media was pushing a year ago "no policies!" and even they've stopped doing that.
Read my post and tell me why you don't support enforcing our borders.
>>29624940
>acting like segregation wasn't good
>>29623673
Donald "the absolute savage" Trump. fuck hillary, and fuck the establishment. Plus, Trump will be better for my NEET endeavors
>>29624176
THIS. I had to wait TWO AND A HALF HOURS to cast my preference vote for Bernie Sanders at a central Phoenix, AZ polling place (a generally low income area). I saw on the news polling places in wealthy Scottsdale, AZ where people literally walked in and voted (mostly for hillary).
To be completely honest, i dont know what to do this election. Hillary works for corporations and will continue to feed the starving capitalist machine its tax breaks and lack of regulation.
The problem i have with Trump is that he is just plain stupid. He is a moron.
>>29624940
>I hate my people so I want to punish them by being a commie
We know. We've always known you hated america. this isn't news.
Honestly I'm not against a lot of Trump policies. I think we should clamp down on immigration and get rid of sanctuary cities. I also think we should be wary about letting Muslims in, since their values clash with ours. Hell, I even like the undertone of white nationalism. Ass-blasting liberals is great and I don't want to be made to feel evil by media-driven public opinion that's become increasingly authoritarian. He's able to note the problem with Islam in the Western world and is cognizant of the demographic crisis in Europe. A lot of this would make me want to not just vote for him, but attend his rallies and be an open supporter.
But I can't believe a word he says. He's been a Republican since 2009. He changes his affiliation every time the President's party changes and says stupid shit because he knows it will give him attention. He does NOT tell it like it is. He's been talking about immigration for one year. I didn't see him mentioning immigration ever. The only policy stance he took was that Obama wasn't born here, which is a fucking stupid thing to attack him since there are tons of other ways to smear Obama. He profits off the very policies he wants to change. He runs as a nationalist but he's a neoliberal in every sense of the word. Tons of his labor is abroad, and a lot more of it is worked by illegals.
I just can't see him being truthful or genuine about any of this. And yes I know all politicians are dishonest but a huge part of his apparent appeal is that he's not like other politicians. His sensationalist speeches are no better than the frothing at the mouth BLM thugs and tumblrinas who think any male-female interaction is rape. It really sucks because it just seems like the few good options stand no chance and we're stuck with Clinton and Trump.
>>29624940
>genocide of indigenous people
Please, that's debunked for a long time
>>29624926
Dude WHAT? Wow you are so cucked by nationalism its depressing me to see it. America is EXACTLY a country that owes its entire existence to immigration (both forced and otherwise) its even apart of our NATIONAL PRIDE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus
Everything else you said is just pure gibberish.
>>29624977
>Literally still living in Cold War propaganda
Hey buddy, socialism isn't communism, and unchecked capitalism is killing our country. It's time to drop the mental taboo and swing away from the capitalist mindset and policies that have driven us to this point.
>>29624985
He read Ann Coulter's book. (Even then, your standard for sincerity shouldn't be "was a republian". You think Republicans ever gave a fuck about mass immigration? How quickly did they enforce Bush's border fence bill? Did you even know it existed?)
If you've ever read her book you could see how it could turn the gayest liberal soccer mom into an ardent nationalist.
HIGHLY recommend this book. It may save our nation. It's available as an ebook too on Audible. Convenient during commutes.
What is it with Trump supporters and communicating entirely through memes?
>>29624985
This pretty much sums up my views on Trump.
>>29625024
Not really. Appeals to national character are just silly. Just because something occurred in the past doesn't mean it should happen again today. Also, the nature of immigration to this country was different at that time, so it may not be applicable at this very moment.
>>29624949
ow the edge
>>29624977
I love america. But its been fucking cucked by the elite man.
>>29625014
Yeah I hear revisionist historians are debunking alot of true fax. Oh like Did you know the slaves like being slaves because "At least they were employed" get lost dumb dumb
>>29625024
You disregarded everything I said to spew a normie trope("nation of immigrants!") without thinking?
If you have a brain in your head, please re-read my post, register what I'm saying, and then explain to me why you support open borders. Argue in good faith, don't just ejaculate talking points you've heard others use.
>>29624985
Literally every single other politician running against Trump is completely controlled by soros and other donors. we are $19 trillion in debt, with endless QE. The reason I am voting trump cause he is our only chance. he could be insincere person who is trying to destroy this country, or a ingenious man with a grandeur vision to make america great again. either way I'll still be voting trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWQd8zhEg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPOvePioFF0
>>29624985
Smart people evolve and change their mind on certain issues as new information becomes available or they give more consideration to a topic than they had previously. Trump has spent most of his life surrounded by liberal influences, but I do think he's learning and usually has the right instincts. If you go back and watch some of his interviews from the '80s, he was saying the exact same things about immigration and trade that he's saying today.
Trump, I believe, has always been spiritually right-wing.
>>29625073
>durrrr why are people using memes on 4chan?
>>29625087
Wow really? After that bleeding heart rant you just made about a "nation not being an arbitrary set of laws"
NOW the cuckservatives suddenly see the appeal in the argument "that's outdated the forefathers didn't know what would change"
But at least we can agree on that.
>>29625090
you're not making any sense. You probably don't even know about that one guy who fabricated evidence of this "genocide". The evidence supporting the theory that natives were dying of pandemics and hunger before Europeans even arrived is overwhelming, while the smallpox blankets thing is nothing more than a myth
>>29625108
>DA JOOOS ITS DA JOOOS
Sick of this meme. Keep it on /pol/ retard. Trump's daughter married a Jew, but somehow that's ok?
>>29625110
This is a big problem with Trump supporters. Where a standard politician would get skewered for seemingly changing their opinions on a whim, there's always an excuse for Trump. How do you know his genuine beliefs aren't the liberal ones he paraded around for so long?
>>29625040
I agree about unfettered capitalism being a problem. Most nationalists do. If the global capitalist class had its way, we'd all be living in a borderless, homogeneous consumerist society with no shared values higher than "dont judge" and "feel good".
Bringing up sins of your forefathers is cuck tier though. Be proud of your heritage, embrace the good and bad.
>>29625141
That wasn't me. I only believe in appealing to (or creating) tradition when it justifies the right decisions.
>>29625183
What are you talking about? Are you denying that the establishment candidates are bought by people like Trump? Why did you even bring up the jews?
>>29624940
it's funny how the left uses identity politics to evade a political discussion. A dirty and effective tactic
>>29625183
I can't, and I concede it's a legitimate concern. But I have watched interviews with Trump from 30 years ago where he's saying very similar things to what he's saying today, so I believe he has a moral clarity about the two issues I care about the most in 2016 (immigration and trade).
>yfw hillary wins
I hope all the /pol/cucks are ready
>>29625183
>Sick of this meme. Keep it on /pol/ retard. Trump's daughter married a Jew, but somehow that's ok?
huh? what does this have anything to do with my argument? i never mentions jews once
>>29625215
>>29625268
The poster I quoted mentioned Soros. At /pol/ Soros is the apparent head of a Jew conspiracy to wipe out the white race. Anything posted about Soros on 4chan I take with a huge grain of salt because it's usually some stormfag shitposting. If it's about Soros, it's about the Jews
>>29624832
I'm an unrepentant fascist and I still hate your degenerate hollywood candyass Trump.
>>29625106
Okay I reread it again and I basically got the same out of it.
>Nationalist cry to "WHAT MUH NATION TIS OF THEE"
>Somehow you managed to ascribe the nations success to yourself and not what it actually is. IE "The collective effort of a populace of immigrants"
>Thinking somehow immigration is a charity?
>Accuse me of having a comfy life.
>Make a criticism of global capitalism
I can agree with that
>TRUMPS OUR ONLY HOPE
You said it yourself the problem is no regulation on corporate interests not immigrants. Why don't you go after the root? Immigrants are only a problem because society exploits exploitation of them for capital gain
>>29625183
>How do you know his genuine beliefs aren't the liberal ones he paraded around for so long?
we don't, but we know it's a hell of a lot better than any of the original 17 candidates who were running. all of them had massive donations from "Americans for Prosperity." you really think bush was making those decisions personally? if you do, i advise you to do some research. self funded is a major part of the trump support
>>29625304
ooh, well I am talking about the bigger donors in general. People like the Koch brothers, they are a good example.
>>29625304
you seem paranoid. soros is a billionaire who funds chaotic left wing causes. why bring up his jewishness? your knee jerk hysteria was bizarre
>>29624661
>bill
>the father of Chelsea Clinton
Oh boy. He still doesn't know who webb hubbell is.
>>29625304
t. Schlomo Shekelberg
>>29623673
Who's voting for who
Trump:
>memers/le edgy anti politically correct people/people who think cuck is an insult/middle aged men who are insecure and violent
Hillary:
>smug whole foods shoppers/feminists who only like her because she's a woman/people who think she's the only other option besides Trump
Bernie:
SJWs/kids too young to vote/people who spend too much time on Buzzfeed-tier news and social media/punk posers
JUST
>>29625311
>Somehow you managed to ascribe the nations success to yourself
no I didn't. I'm not going to read any further because you clearly have terrible reading comprehension. you can't go a sentence without resorting to some canned argument/trope.
if you want foreigners to inherit america, fine. but don't beat around the bush. i want my children to inherit america. thats why I'm voting for trump.
>>29623748
Lol keep dreaming
>>29625392
Fuck, I forgot to greentext the part under Bernie
>>29623765
(((Jill Stein)))
>>29625392
>I'm too lazy to do independent research and support the candidate who best aligns with my interests so I'll just strawman everybody
Stay edgy, kiddo.
Trump, because no one has died because of his incompetence.
>>29625399
look at Brexit
>>29625350
Kek you can't be serious. I'm not buying into the conspiracy you dumbshit, I'm saying any mention of Soros on 4chan is in the context of a great Jewish conspiracy. Go to /pol/ and see how much there is about how Soros is a scheming Jew who wants to import Muslims to destroy the white race.
Shit, I'm sure some faggot will post something here with a picture of a hasidic Jew or that cartoon drawing.
>>29625392
>people who think cuck is an insult
How does it feel to be the problem?
>>29625181
Yeah the blanket shit is debunked but they still killed 100 million native Americans using good ol' European steel.
Stop focusing on the ONE thing they debunked and read the rest of the history book you dumb dumb
>2016
>Not supporting Gary Johnson
Honestly the most sensible of all the candidates. Trust worthy and knows what he's talking about. I wish he was a bit harder on immigration, but overall I quite like him.
I hope he at least makes it into the debates.
>>29624110
He's 4 years older than Trump.
Garry Johnson. I hate all the big 3, so he's pretty much the best option.
>>29625433
So there are no legitimate criticisms of soros?
So far, in 3 posts you've only said
>neo nazis don't like soros! shut up!
just admit you had a knee-jerk reaction because you're used to arguing with /pol/acks and it triggered(I use this sincerely) feelings of righteous anger. soros isn't off limits because neo nazis hate jews. he's a scumbag representative of the type of elite who hates Trump.
>>29625219
How in the fuck is that identity politics?
>>29625463
>not strong on immigration
Then he doesn't get my vote. Immigration is a line-in-the-sand issue for me.
>>29624832
pretty much none of your forefathers died fighting communism or protecting you from it; literally none actually
the USSR never threatened your way of life and never intended to. while you made some nice war profit, the communists paid a higher blood price than you could ever imagine. with this price they saved the native whites and jews of eastern europe from total genocide. their primary objective after that was to prevent yet another german invasion through poland from happening. it's that simple.
>>29625463
Gary Johnson must be placed in power via a coup d'etat.
Trump, for the meme of the century.
TRUMP obviously my dude
>>29625463
Can't disagree. I supported Rand back in august/september. Gary Johnson is another gr8 candidate. But I will still have Trump on my ballot cause he is the only one who can really beat hillary at this point.
>>29625395
don't lie. I know you read the rest :^)
Well either way. Enjoy your little utopia.
>>29625108
>$19 trillion in debt
The Trump tax plan removes another $10 trillion in revenue over ten years without offering up anything to replace that loss, and it's the only thing close to a policy he's actually put forth. He also claims that at the same time he is going to increase military spending and not cut social programs. He has no grasp on how budgets and spending work.
Trump is offering a campaign of nothing. Nothing of substance. No actual ideas. He's good at riling people up with empty rhetoric and puffing himself up. No time for policy discussion, we've got to keep out the brown. Ask HOW he's going to "make America great again" and there's no real answer. We're just going to do it and it's going to be the greatest, huge thing ever.
He's got his great wall, which will never be built. He has no real idea of how much it is going to actually cost, no idea of the logistics involved in such a massive undertaking. That's ok, because Mexico is going to pay for it because he said so.
A Trump presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country. He would burn this country to the ground and then write his name in the ashes.
>>29625447
100 million killed with swords when the estimated population was around 80 million? I won't argue with you on a subject you literally know nothing about.
>>29625463
What issue do you think is more important than immigration? Literally who gets to BE america. It's a matter of control over your own country, versus foreigners controlling it.
I think a lot of people just feel social pressure to reject Trump because the media and left are so shrill against him.
>y-yeah he's great on the most important issue of the century and doesn't want to start foreign wars, but I agree he's a total jerk!
>>29625527
You fucking idiot the number accounts for the North and South america too.
but FINE if its hard for you to imagine a big 'ol number like 100 million than can you imagine the 12 million they estimate in central america? Or do I need to like draw a picture?
>>29625493
>Then he doesn't get my vote. Immigration is a line-in-the-sand issue for me.
my nigga
I sincerely feel people who don't place this importance on immigration don't know what's at stake.
>all these trumpmemes
You guys do know that you have to be 18 to vote, right?
See you kiddos in 2024 tho :\
>>29625524
>A Trump presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country. He would burn this country to the ground and then write his name in the ashes.
This is what libcucks actually believe.
If Trump is merely incompetent, America will survive. We've had incompetent presidents before.
What actually COULD destroy America is the nation being given over to foreign outsiders who don't share our values and way of life.
>>29623673
Gilf Stein of course
>>29625548
>you support any other candidate then trump, you must be brainwashed
Retards like you are the reason I hate Trump. Fuck you and your false dichotomy you brainless faggot.
>>29624552
>deny the validity of race
You seem confused. Race is real, and only cucks bury their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't. Nice try, lefty faggot.
>>29625521
no I literally stopped after that line. I was sincerely disinterested when you misinterpreted my posts two times in a row.
>>29625524
He plans to bring manufacturing back, tax remittances to mexico, end offshore tax havens, and a few other things. His entire platform is american nationalism + excellence. Whether or not it'll work is a different story, but he does have a plan.
all you're saying is "no. he wont do that. he cant do that. he wouldnt do that. see? he has no platform, lawgic trapped". probably ironically, you're being unnecessarily prejudiced here.
>>29625566
Smallpox killed the vast majority of native americans, which began with Columbus. By the time Europeans could get to some of the bigger societies they were already devastated by the disease. Europeans didn't have an understanding of microbiology so didn't intentionally start the initial smallpox pandemic.
It really shows how terrifying disease is, more than the most bloodthirsty humans. Something that people couldn't even see was able to virtually eradicate the population on two continents. I can't think of a worse fate for a society than dying from a pandemic that they are completely able to stop. It's convenient to paint evil white people as murderers and genociders, but smallpox was more relentless than any Conquistador or pilgrim
>>29625548
A couple reasons:
1. The reality is, Trumps wall will not happen. The president is not an all powerful emperor. He needs support. And trump will have almost none. None from dems, and very limited from republicans. He might be capable of buffing up boarder se urity, but even thats a big "maybe". Imo, its really up to states to up boarder security. The boarder states need to vote in republicans for that.
2. Trump probably can't beat Hillary. He's too decisive. Yes, he amazingly won the primary. But thats just among republicans, and even then it was an uphill battle. Now he has to win over dems and independents, and independents are at an all time high. This is extremely hard to do with his over the top rhetoric.
Johnson on the other hand, is much more level headed. If there ever was a time for a third party to win an election, its now.
I myself am not even a libertarian, and I'd still consider trump solely to fuck over Shillary. But after seeing some interviews with Johnson I can't help but root for him.
>>29625566
you're probably one of those dipshits who thinks the epidemics excuse is some sort of cover-up. 100 million killed directly is enormous and could never be covered up.
It's called virgin soil epidemic, idiot, and it's what killed 95% of natives before the Europeans even had a chance to settle
>>29625595
don't be a fag. tell me what issue you think is more important than who inherits the country? I'm really curious since you seem to understand that it's important.
can you blame me for thinking people are manipulated by mass media?
>>29625524
He has been the best worst option since the beginning. You're argument is assuming this is a policy oriented election, which it is not at all. The reason Trump is going on my ballot because he is by far the best choice when our country goes into recession/depression soon. You didn't seem to read my post about how the other candidates are completely controlled by donors and would be a much worse choice imo.
If you want to have a chance of seeing the U.S. dollar not going to zero in a few years, then you should put trump on your ballot this november. Obviously i don't buy into the wall or any of that shit, I know it will never happen btw. That stuff has nothing to do with my vote.
>>29624566
Mass replies are cancer. Why don't you pick one reply and make an actual argument
>>29623673
Trump, he's not my first choice, but I like him a hell of a lot better than Hillary.
>>29625688
>can you blame me for thinking people are manipulated by mass media?
Yes I can asshole. I'm fucking tired of every dipshit supporter of whichever fucking candidate saying "trump people are brainwashed by fox news" or "clinton people are brainwashed by jezebel" or whatever the fuck. Are there retards who only believe what the mass media tells them? Absolutely, but dismissing anyone who's against you as brainwashed does nothing to help move the conversation, you fucking neanderthal. It is because of people like you that I cant support trump, so eat a dick knowing that your own stupidity turned away a potential trump voter you maggot.
> tell me what issue you think is more important than who inherits the country?
Tell me how building a wall is going to prevents mexicans from entering illegally.
>>29625708
Why is it okay to vote for a plutocrat if it isn't okay to vote for people controlled by plutocrats?
I really don't get this. If the problem is that other candidates are controlled by corporate interests, how exactly is voting in Trump any better? He is that exact class of person and has that exact same set of values.
>>29625664
JOHNSON M U S T be placed in power by a coup d'etat!
Why are you people not fucking listening to me? We can bring him to the presidency and keep him there a la Pinochet.
>>29625664
I think you're 100% wrong, if anyone can get this done it would be Trump.
But I have a problem with your overall premise. you're against him because of pessimism? How will we ever get these things if we don't try? Do you think Hillary or Gary Johnson somehow has a better chance of enforcing our borders?
Also, you're mistaken on independents:
>Trump holds a slight edge among independents who have made their choice, leading Clinton by 3 percentage points, 37-34.
https://morningconsult.com/2016/05/11/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-general-election-polling/
Trump is neck and neck with Hillary when it's still a social taboo to even admit to being a Trump fan. Trump support is weak because people are afraid to support him, not because they actually prefer Hillary. Can you imagine what's going to happen after the debates?
Don't half ass it, just get fully on board the trump train. He's a legendary candidate and the more people who openly and unabashedly support him, the better he'll do.
>>29624344
Bet you heard that from FOX News and CNN, didn't you, /pol/cuck?
Why would a Republican source slander a liberal? I mean, WHY? REALLY now?
>>29625493
>>29625567
oh no, a few million mexis and a few ten-thousand allahus are going to move to america for better opportunities with their families. how will the several hundred million of the rest of us survive this vicious anti-white invasion?
people who "draw a line in the sand" at any mainstream hotbutton emotional issues like immigration, abortion, gay marriage, perceived terrorist threat, etc. are fucking retarded.
Donald John Trump in a likely vain attempt to piss off as many college aged normies as possible
>>29625771
>He is that exact class of person and has that exact same set of values.
this is where you are wrong. and we will never be able to agree.
i do see where you are coming from though. respectable argument
>>29625798
>clinton news network
>slandering Hillary
Are you even trying
>>29625688
Not the other guy but climate change is vastly more pertinent to our future but Trump denies it. If he was just a little more liberal on that, and a bit more libertarian on issues like the drug war and foreign policy, I would find it hard to not vote for him. But alas, he still has to pander to the republican base.
>>29625780
>>legendary candidate
>edgy candidate
I support him and I even think you are reaching there.
>>29625770
So you're going to hand the country over because of a grudge? That's even worse than being manipulated by the media.
>Tell me how building a wall is going to prevents mexicans from entering illegally.
Despite popular belief, mexicans don't have the phasing ability of the Martian Manhunter. They cant pass through solid objects like it's commonly thought.
>>29625820
>projects without source
Yeah?
>>29623673
Right now I still feel like it's a lesser of two evils decision and don't really want to vote for either of them.
I'm going to wait until they debate each other to make up my mind, though.
>>29625772
LITERALLY Fuck all you assholes. You think I'm memeing. You think I'm crazy but you're all LITERALLY fucking puppets. With or without you fucking assholes, Gary Johnson has my sword.
>>29625820
And also,
Are you fucking retarded? CNN is a commercial network. They side with whoever is NOT in the white house chair at the time, then they just roll with whatever kike gives them the most money.
>Bush in power
>liberal network
>Obama in power
>extremely conservative network
>whole election process has been back and forth
Are YOU even trying?
>>29625839
>Despite popular belief, mexicans don't have the phasing ability of the Martian Manhunter. They cant pass through solid objects like it's commonly thought.
Except that there's already a fuckload of mexicans living in the US as citizens, who are having way more kids then the average white person, so good luck keeping America more white by building a wall, because your already too late.
Also, Mexicans can still enter legally and simply outstay their visa's, which is what a ton of illegals already do.
>>29625491
Poor kid gets all of his political knowledge from skimming threads on 4chan.
>>29624661
id tap a young hillary
>>29625826
>he still thinks climate change is real
>>29625834
He's legendary. Concern with "edginess" (for or against) is a juvenile trait you should grow out of.
Trump literally represents a paradigm shift in american politics. Look at his platform compared to the big business/neocon platform of the Republicans over the past 30 years. Look at his immunity to media smearing. Look how he's taking the establishment on BOTH sides almost single handedly and without spending a cent relative to the others.
we FINALLY have populist nationalism and noninterventionism in a candidate, with an unforgettable personality, and the strength to single handedly end PC culture with his rhetoric alone. people who think it's just memes and cult of personality don't understand how massive Trump really is.
>>29625915
/pol/ is right 99% of the time tho
>>29623765
She'll give me more neetbux, I approve
>>29625826
sorry but I think climate change isn't a huge deal, even if it's man made. even if it were, I'm not going to sacrifice my country to stop it, when china and india aren't even making any effort themselves.
>trump, a conservative
>>29625898
>what is deportation
>what are policies that discourage illegal border crossing
>what is ending the anchor baby loophole
You're basically saying "your country is mexico now, deal with it". Are you trying to make a case for Trump?
>>29625892
Seriously? Seriously!? NOBODY!?
You're all fucking dead to me.
>>29625919
>He still buys into the self-serving delusion that it isn't
Climate change is a hard thing to face, and if you're in a developed country there's plenty of personal reason not to. But the science is pretty clear and evidence is evidence, and it's true that if there's anything to be a single issue voter over, it's climate change. It's the single issue that has the most influence over the future of humanity, and I think if our generations did nothing else in this century but combat climate change, we would go down in history as among the greatest.
But all of us just want to keep our heads down, keep driving our cars and pretend it isn't happening because of the enormity of the change and effort it asks of us, and the fossil fuel industry is quite happy to feed us a soothing lie that it's not our fault. Not even that it's not happening, necessarily, but just telling us that it has nothing to do with us and not to worry about it.
>>29625974
>sorry but I think climate change isn't a huge deal
honestly who gives a shit
>>29626008
Nah I'm with you senpai. Gary Johnson is the 420blazeit candidate but he's at least rational in a world of irrational politicians
>>29625938
>>unforgettable personality
>>end PC culture
>posts on Twitter like Hillary
>both act like a fucking teenager
>only gained country with back country hickfuck rednecks and worthless /pol/ fucks like you who like Trump for all the wrong reasons by being edgy for the first few months of his run
He's ACTUALLY good because he knows what must be done from a business standpoint, not because he is "ending PC culture". He will save the nation because he knows how to economically reshape a dying business, not because he isn't afraid to say he hates beaners.
That's the thing with you /pol/cucks. You like him because he IS edgy, as much as you will try to polish it up. He isn't a conservative. John Kasich is a conservative, but we don't need Kasich, we need Trump. Not because he isn't PC, but because he knows how to serve the nation and how to save the economy.
Don't get me wrong, I hate the kikes. That is why I don't want Hillary.
But don't cover up your love for Trump by saying he is independent. You can say you like him because he hates niggers just like you do, you fucking wash.
>>29625839
They could just climb over it. Or go around it. Or tunnel under it. Or visit legally and overstay their visa.
>>29625938
He's literally said before that he wants to "open up our libel laws." How is that anti-pc? The SJWs that you hate are going to find it easier to sue someone over what they said under a Trump presidency. Political correctness would flourish
>>29625938
>rubio and bush
top kek, absolutely rekt
>>29625771
basically. you can vote for someone who owes corporations favors but ultimately has her own agenda, or you can vote for the corporation directly.
It's kind of like voting for one of satan's lieutenants, or directly for satan himself. you're gonna get assraped either way, but at least the lieutenant is going to use lube and ease you into it instead of tearing you in half with a razorblade whalecock over and over.
people who think trump won't be an economic disaster and an absolute fiasco in the international political arena (hint: he already is. the rest of the world considers the US a fucking joke for even entertaining the idea of electing him) are absolutely delusional.
>>29625772
>>29625892
Johnson and Pinochet have nothing in common beyond their support for economic liberalization.
Pinochet was a violent dictator. Johnson believes in small government.
>>29626037
>John Kasich is a conservative
no, he literally said he would do nothing if his son was gay.
The correct response is to disown your son or change him. Kasich is as gay as liberals get. Fucking cocksucking faggot lover.
>>29623673
zoltan istvan
>>29626018
if it were as big a deal as you make it out to be, it would trump every other issue and merit immediate war with china and india to comply with environmental guidelines. why arent you advocating war to make them comply? plus, we could always be wrong about it
immigration on the other hand is directly tangible , undeniable, and irreversible. border control is the only reasonable top issue if you value America
>>29626069
You literally have no idea what you are talking about you /pol/ fuck.
Come back when you graduate high school and you've had some experience in the real world.
>>29626061
No, Hillary = Satan
Trump = George Washington, Coolidge, Andrew Jackson, and Thomas Jefferson all in one package
I hope you make the right decision in November anon
>>29625997
>lets deport every Mexican, illegal or not, many of whom are armed with guns and would rather die than live in the shithole their ancestors came here to escape from
Your proposal would literally turn the entire southwestern half of the country into a fucking warzone you lunatic. Here are more modest proposals that wouldn't result in a civil uprising that I'm in favor of
>Increased funding for border security
>creating a government agency who's goal is to look for and penalize companies who hire illegal immigrants
>end the drug war, which would cut the cartels out of power and end the reason so many Mexicans come to the US
>encourage contraceptives and sex ed in predominantly Hispanic areas.
>>29626027
If Gary Johnson said tomorrow that he's marching on Washington like Mussolini did on Rome and he needs soldiers to take the presidency by blood and steel, I'd be the first in line. That ain't no shit neither.
>>29626066
Pinochet was also for small government. Small government in the market. The only difference is that Pino was living in a world of hard commies while Johnson is living in a world of incompetence. If he ever plots a coup, he's got a soldier right here.
>>29626037
What the fuck are you even talking about? You think he's a good choice only because he's a business man?
Why can't you stop mentioning edginess? You sound like you just turned 20 and are desperate to reject your embarrassing teenage years.
Trump is massive culturally, politically, nationally, and globally. He represents a paradigm shift in right wing politics. And I don't hate niggers (neither does trump), they're just as american as you and me. post-1965 immigration, however, constitutes an invasion.
Half the people on this board probably aren't even old enough to vote. They'll just say Trump because they want to fit in and/or saw so many Trump memes that their intelligence actually diminished.
If you can provide a well reasoned argument that you're going to vote for him, fair enough, but if your reason is "DUDE MEMES" or "Milo told me to" then you're an idiot. Then again, this board is for people who aren't even capable of talking to a single person face to face so that's to be expected.
Before you start crying about my vote, I'm not even American so be quiet.
>>29626097
>Come back when you graduate high school and you've had some experience in the real world.
done both
>>29626043
>They could just climb over it. Or go around it. Or tunnel under it. Or visit legally and overstay their visa.
You learned that from Youtube comments. You're not thinking for yourself. We're talking millions of people. Border security is about prevention, not hermetically sealing the US.
>OH NO A PERSON GOT ACROSS BETTER TAKE DOWN THE WALL
You're not thinking critically. Please think more seriously about the fate of your nation.
>>29626097
athis is not an argument buddy. please come tell me when you have an argument that Kasich is a faggot loving liberal
>>29625938
>Trump literally represents a paradigm shift in american politics.
trump represents an older, often less educated, less traveled, generally rural population upset at a lack of jobs due to their generations-old industries losing relevancy, and blaming it on "the immigrants". the same kind of people who knee-jerk voted leave for brexit and buttfucked the UK economy. the same cycle that humans have been going through since the dawn of the agricultural age, and the exact opposite of a paradigm shift.
>>29626115
Johnsons not a fucking aspiring dictate. This is a guy who's openly supported term limits in the past.
Your insane. Also your on r9k, so the odds of you leaving your basement dwelling to fight are non existant.
>>29626011
What sacrifices have you made to help prevent climate change?
I've been voting Trump since he first announced he was running
>>29623673
trump , maga my friends
>>29626111
>lets deport every Mexican, illegal or not
ok you can stop talking if you're just going to fabricate shit
>>29626157
read some posts, then try to rebut. This is not how you get into an intellectual discussion. You just posted an ad hominem about trump being young, when in fact quite the opposite is true. if you are new hear, just try to put an argument that has some substance next time.
Trump 2016 bitches, let it all burn I say!
>>29623673
trump. I have my reasons. and I'm not going to explain them to someone with opposing views who just wont get it
>>29626192
>This is a guy who's openly supported term limits in the past
Term limits schmerm limits.
BLOOD AND STEEL! Gary FUCKING JOHNSON!
I always wondered why the NEETs here are so drawn to trump. He will literally stump on your little dream world. He WILL execute all NEETs. Why do you like him so much, when he hates you so much?
>>29626191
no that's a liberal meme.
the trend over the past 50 years (actually more) has been toward a borderless, globalist capitalist system that encourages nonjudgmentalism and consumerism and trans-national conglomerates and unions. Trump (and nationalism more generally) is a direct rejection of this, and thus represents a paradigm shift. Look at Trump's policies versus the standard Republicans' policies of the past 30 years(who you said the same thing about, uncritically)
>old white people afraid of change!
lol @ learning politics from family guy jokes from 2001
>>29626229
>le reason is i haet spic x)
>>29626192
>openly supported term limits
I wasn't aware it was controversial to openly support term limits.
>>29626215
I said that there are millions of Mexicans living here as legal citizens, and you responded with >what is deportation
So since we generally that tight immigration controls are a good thing, albeit to different degree, what's your solution to dealing with the millions of Mexicans already living in the US? You seem to be quite concerned with making sure America keeps it heritage, so whats your answer? Is that question direct enough for you to understand, cockhead?
>>29626157
You're presenting the same strawman every other anti-trumper in this thread has presented. Just because trump memes are good (the best, believe me) doesn't mean that's the only reason people support him. What simplistic reasoning.
I used to have full faith in Trump
but then I learned Piers Morgan liked him, and now I'm having serious doubts that he's going to try to do any of the things he said
>>29626248
>Why do you like him so much, when he hates you so much?
He is based af
>>29626302
>but then I learned Piers Morgan liked him
Piers is waking up, that's why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWQPZ-taYBs
>>29626260
You also said:
>Also, Mexicans can still enter legally and simply outstay their visa's, which is what a ton of illegals already do.
Your argument against deporting illegals is "they might get violent! we cant anger the invaders!" We can stop this. You're not thinking like a reasonable person. You want to do everything EXCEPT the most effective method of border control and prevention. We don't have to pick and choose how we enforce our borders.
>>29626260
Not that guy, but I'm not concerned so much with deportation. We should kick out who we can, but it's impractical to think we can deport 11 million people, or whatever the number is.
The first thing we have to do is stop the problem before it grows larger. Then we can figure out what to do with the ones that are here.
>>29626286
There's nothing anti-Trump about my post, anon, and I didn't mention that being the only reason to vote for him. In fact, I specifically stated I don't have a problem with somebody voting for him if it's for reasons that person has thought through. Read my post again, it's aimed at a particular type of user here and clearly that's not you.
>>29626249
>Look at Trump's policies versus the standard Republicans' policies
>anti-immigration
>anti-abortion
>pro-gun
>pro-war
>tax cuts for the rich
yea, real different. big paradigm shift.
>implying old white people aren't a majority conservative isolationist xenophobes afraid of change
it's like you're voting exclusively on a basis of emotion and dank internet maymays and have never read or researched any actual statistics in your life.
>>29626184
I have no doubt that a border wall would curtail some percentage of illegal immigration to the US, but it just wouldn't be significant enough to justify its cost.
>You learned that from Youtube comments. You're not thinking for yourself.
Nah. We know for a fact that at least 40% of all illegal immigrants come by plane, which already lessens the need for a wall. Why would climbing over it, going around it or tunneling under it not work?
>>29626347
It's still a strawman. No one supports trump because he has good memes. If they say that they're obviously joking.
>>29626286
That's literally what trump supporters have been flooding the site with the past year. Memes. It's literally all you see on youtube, facebook, twitter, fucking everywhere.
What am I to make of this? His website is a fucking meme. Every talking point of his is a vague meme. Simplistic reasoning is what trump is doing.
>>29626327
Cool story, now answer the original question.
>>29626346
>it's impractical to think we can deport 11 million people, or whatever the number is.
It's not though. That's another nefarious lie that's been pushed hard by mass media.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
A larger number leave on their own once they see you actually enforce your border. The inverse is also true, more come when they think you're not going to kick them out. It's imperative that we actually deport them rather than any other soft measure.
>>29626373
or maybe, just maybe....he wants to MAGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqXF13fBxa4
>>29626418
Meme
America
Great
Again
x^D
>>29626260
The ones living in the US are only at around 12%. If we stop immigration entirely, assimilation is definitely possible with the ones who are living here legally.
We still have to do deportations though, for reasons stated here:
>>29626412
>>29626373
>youtube, facebook, twitter
kek
>>29626390
misquoted you. this is my reply:
>>29626448
getting lots of (You)s itt. nice.
>>29625717
Go back to /pol/ and use more 'cuck', 'BTFO', and 'MAGA' in your vocabulary. Thanks kill yourself
>>29626370
Cry strawman all you want, my point still stands. You're also grossly underestimating just how dumb most people are, or at the very least how susceptible they are to altering what they believe based on the slightest thing they see or hear. Yes, including stupid memes (and no, the memes I'm talking about are not solely pictures of frogs made to look like Trump etc.)
If you don't believe me, see the Brexit vote and its aftermath. By that, I mean the people who mere hours after the result came in who regretted their vote to leave because their reasoning essentially boiled down to "I did it ironically."
>>29626448
So we generally agree on immigration. Only for me, its not as important as ending the drug war, ending trade deals, and fostering an isolationist foreign policy and dismantling the American empire. All of which, Trump has either been for or against at any point within the last decade, so good luck convincing me he's not the same as Shillary.
>>29626359
>Trump
>pro-war
But he was literally against the Iraq War, which Hillary supported.
Are you sure you've done your research?
>>29626509
/pol/ and /r9k/ have the same beliefs dumbass,
both have majority support for trump
>>29626509
go bk to reddit, friend
>>29626249
>thus represents a paradigm shift
The problem here is that the phrase "paradigm shift" has connotations of novelty; usually things that are "paradigm shifts" are new things that change everything else in new ways.
Nationalism is not in any way new, and the reason it's appealing to the kind of person that the poster you're quoting is describing is exactly that it's not new. It's an attempt to return to a "better time" with an old, comfortable (and simpler to comprehend) set of ideas. The old and uneducated don't get that you can't just wind back the clock and stuff all the technology and cultural shifts back where they came from. They pine for halcyon days that were good because of circumstances that don't exist anymore and can't be revived by returning to old ideas. It's just gone, grieve and move on. But these people still stand at the graveside and now are thinking about jumping in themselves rather than face the new horrors around them.
Trump emphasizes this hopeless, navel-gazing outlook very directly in his slogan; "Make America great again." It's not "Make America great," but make it great "again." He's specifically banking on that nostalgia for a bygone era and that narrative that the only reason America isn't great is that it fell from some perfect platonic virtue, which just flat out isn't true.
If there's a way forward for America into a brighter future, it's to be found in new ideas and new methods. The old concepts and policies of the neocon and the neolib, of the baby boomer generation, just won't cut it in the modern world.
>>29626359
>anti-immigration
Republicans have actually pushed for immigration and only paid lip service to stopping illegal immigration (that Bush border fence that no one even knows about). Look at Reagan's amnesty. Isn't that a "gotcha" point you use against Republicans who want border enforcement?
>pro-war
No he isn't. He's closer to Bernie on foreign policy than even Hillary is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC_DJalOePo
"Trump will start ww3!" is a meme uninformed liberal kids are spreading online.
>tax cuts for the rich
Tax cuts for the poor too actually. My taxes in particular would go down.
How he's different:
>not dogmatic on social issues
>unapologetically and explicit nationalist
>serious about immigration, proposing wall and repealing birthright citizenship
>supports universal healthcare
>non interventionist foreign policy (huge one, rejecting the neocons directly)
>immune to media attacks that would end any other candidate
>doesn't bend over apologizing to liberals just to avoid their standard slurs (racist sexist xenophobe homophobe etc)
>>29626553
well that's too bad because the bern is dead
>>29626523
>By that, I mean the people who mere hours after the result came in who regretted their vote to leave because their reasoning essentially boiled down to "I did it ironically."
haha you actually believe people like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0ncBLxQKc
are not complete sellouts? you are pathetic. and you do know britain is going to be 100x better in the long run when the EU crashes, r...right? or do you just post memes from the internet like every single hillary supporter?
>>29626553
>Yes, goy! YES! The white man is becoming obsolete! All the values America was built on simply can''t work in our modern, diverse world!
>>29626111
>Your proposal would literally turn the entire southwestern half of the country into a fucking warzone you lunatic.
Also acceptable. Machine gun crowd control too. Drastic, but I don't think there will be much illegal immigration ever again.
>>29626609
The FBI primary could yet save us, Anon.
>>29626617
Posts like this are parodies of themselves.
>>29626525
You're not making sense. We have completely opposite views on immigration if you think letting Hillary become president is acceptable because Trump may not be sincere. He is the only chance we have. And he's better than Hillary on all of the issues you supposedly care about more than immigration. But you won't risk supporting him because he might be lying? Versus Hillary who is openly against you? What logic is that?
It sounds to me like there's something you fundamentally don't like about Trump and you're using any rationalization you can to avoid supporting him.
>>29626553
Nationalist populism IS a new idea in America. It's not small government conservatism, big government liberalism, neocon interventionism, neoliberal corporatism, or any other ideology that has dominated in the US thus far. It sounds like you can't get over the surface level imagery and "lol scared white people" meme.
Do you not see the same thing happening in Europe? Did you miss the Brexit? The rise of the nationalist parties? This is the way western nations are trending.
>>29626621
Sure. Whatever you say bud.
>>29626656
Not happening because the system isn't fair
Either way I want to see PC culture and white guilt take a hike for 4 years
>>29626688
>if you think letting Hillary become president is acceptable because Trump may not be sincere
I literally said in my first post that I'm supporting Gary Johnson. Are you seriously so retarded that you can't remember something you read 10 minutes ago?
>>29626610
Why are you arguing the effects of Britain leaving the EU as if I've stated my opinion on either that or Trump himself? They have no relevance to the points in any of my posts. We're talking about people.
Stop rushing to defend your political ideals because you feel like I'm attacking them when I'm not.
>r...right?
Stop typing like a retard, too.
>>29626723
I didn't say who you support for president. I said who you'd let become president. and johnson is worse than trump on immigration too, even then your logic doesn't make sense.
>>29626688
>Nationalist populism IS a new idea in America
bloxl;xjcbkxhjg
>>29626786
>I didn't say who you support for president. I said who you'd let become president
explain the difference
>and johnson is worse than trump on immigration too
as I said, it's not something that takes my top priority. What else do I need to repeat for you?
>>29626723
A non-vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary.
If you want to vote your conscience because you believe Johnson is the best candidate, that's fine. But understand that you -- someone who's more ideologically aligned with Trump than Hillary -- are helping Hillary if you do.
>>29626523
No virtually everyone who voted leave were really happy to leave because fuck the EU and it's destructive policies, fuck globalism and fuck Merkel
It doesn't matter who wins, you Americunts are fucked either way. I almost feel bad for you.
>>29626526
>he was against a war a gorillion years ago that mean he always against war xDDD
There's a threshold of nuthuggery and your level of nuthuggery is verging on delusion.
>>29626823
>b-but John Oliver told me so!
>>29626839
this is what the world thinks of us millenial men, bunch of fucking cucked robots and cyborgs, fuck my shit senpai.
>>29626836
>Trump's pro-war because I said so, not because of what his record says
Liberals, ladies and gentlemen.
>>29626828
What shitpile country are you from?
>>29624968
>Hillary literally used a Yahoo email address to house state secrets for almost a decade
Both are dumb as rocks and egregious liars. Hillary to the point where fucking military action could of been taken if she was actually under fucking sniper fire in Bosnia.
It's all fun and games now, but if this was 20 years ago and her aids would of been fucking insane a bunch of innocent people could of been killed by that lie.
Both are monsters. You need to ask yourself the following question when you are voting.
Do you want short term stability? Where Hillary keeps giving power to the wealthy and powerful?
Or
Do you want short term insanity? Where Trump goes in swinging like the fucking baboon he is. Abusing his presidential power and further damaging the current status quo in American politics?
I choose the later, because it's a complete inevitability and I'd rather something happen sooner rather than later.
>>29626851
>le record meeems
I wipe my ass with Trump's records. I care about what he wants now and what he wants now is war in the middle east. Deal with it.
>>29626734
Graduate high school first, then you can come back to this thread.
>>29626820
>A non-vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary.
Fuck you. From the bottom of my heart, fuck you to every level of hell you scumfuck. Your everything wrong with the average voter, and I'm fucking done playing into the 2 party system and being told that not voting for x is voting for y. If retards like you are in opposition to me, at least I can go to sleep knowing I've made at least one right decision in my life.
>>29626839
and stefan molyneux and paul joseph watson and several others and their comments sections
the pound dropping means shit when you get this kind of victory against the regressive left
>>29626872
>he fell for the ebin nihilism meme
From here on in my mind, every trumplet is associated with memes.
>>29626876
What country or countries in the Middle East has he said he wants to go to war with? Be specific.
>>29626526
>But he was literally against the Iraq War, which Hillary supported.
first of all, I'm not a shillary supporter, so her flipflopping is an irrelevant strawman to this conversation. secondly this has already been debunked. he claimed in an interview that he supported a war in iraq and that we "should have done it correctly the first time" just weeks before war was declared, and proclaimed it a "tremendous success" a few days after it started.
his justification when called out? he "wasn't a politician" at the time he was asked, i.e. he had no motivation to lie at the time. kek.
there are, on the other hand, plenty of quotes within the last two years of his presidential campaign of him talking about how he's love to bomb the shit out of the middle east, declare war on ISIS, and put American troops on the ground in Syria.
>>29626893
Would it be different if I voted for Hillary because MAI RACISM?
You niggers and cucks crack me up.
>>29626851
you've clearly never read his record. old enough to make ebin memes but not old enough to vote, thank god.
>>29626876
what because he said "bomb the hell out of em"? that was directed at ISIS, he's not sending a bunch of troops to replace Assad so we can have an Iraq 2.0, but you bet your ass Hillary wants that
>>29626894
Syria, and any other countries that may be harboring ISIS. Do your fucking research you mouthbreathing mongoloid.
>>29626879
Excellent "I don't know what to post" post, anon. Truly great stuff.
>>29626920
>he's not sending a bunch of troops to replace Assad so we can have an Iraq 2.0
you mean aside from the fact that he literally said he wants troops on the ground in syria?
>>29626890
I'll sleep well tonight knowing I pissed you off this much.
>>29626849
>this is what the world thinks of us millenial men, bunch of fucking cucked robots and cyborgs
i mean, it's mostly true
>>29626894
Syria and Iran.
>muh whole lyfe is a war gr >:(
lmao what a vagina.
>>29626920
>he's not sending a bunch of troops to replace Assad
He L I T E R A L L Y wants to Mossad the Lion Assad.
>>29626970
Sleep well faggot.
Thanks for letting me use you as an anger lightning rod. I feel much better now.
>>29626956
got anything against not voting for trump yet?
no? i didn't think so
>>29626970
my nigga
>>29626968
he's been clear that his main goal is to weaken ISIS, but he's not going to hold Syria's hand
the fact remains that Hillary is more of an interventionist than he is
>>29623673
Libertarian. Fuck them both.
>>29627009
This is the political equivalent of a die hard vegan writing a strongly worded letter to Oscar Mayer.
>the amount of neets voting for trump
why would you vote against your self interest? makes no sense
>>29626989
>got anything against not voting for trump yet?
What?
>>29627039
We need a robust economy off which to leech. That's what Trump will create.
>>29627036
Which Trump youtube video did you copy that kneeslapper from?
>>29627039
they don't read actual issues and only vote on "muh feels", because they're manchildren with the emotional maturity and critical thinking skills of a 10 year old.
guys I'm really afraid that Trump will be killed by some spic with a .22 revolver
but is it true he has a torso made of titanium?
>>29627039
>why would you vote against your self interest?
i am not, that's why i am voting for trump dumbass
>>29627080
Even if his plans created a robust economy (they wouldn't), he's very clear on his stance towards entitlement programs (you get cut off)
>>29627080
kek
>>29627094
If I was poor as fuck, I would probably want to vote for Hillary or Bernie too
>>29627113
fuck off nigger
>>29627094
>they don't read actual issues and only vote on "muh feels", because they're manchildren with the emotional maturity and critical thinking skills of a 10 year old.
haha that strawman tho, i r8 /8/
i was about to say the same exact thing about liberals, lol
>>29627039
Voting for Trump literally means voting to preserve white civilization. How is that voting against my interests?
Bernie was flatout the superior choice
Now you're stuck with a globalist corporate demagogue and a literal oligarch criminal
Think about that when you've been run to the ground 3 years from now when you could've been getting free college degrees
>>29627138
>fuck off nigger
dat arugment
>>29627146
If that's the top of your priority list as a neet, more power to you
>>29627166
do you want me to make some profound paragraph about how I'm going to change your world view? 'cause that's realistic..
>>29627162
how exactly is trump globalist?
>>29627208
lol i assuming you don't browse /pol/ often
>>29623673
Is that even a question on 4chan? Prepare for the wall
Trump
oc commemt 54466
>>29623673
>2016
>voting
senpai you're vote doesn't matter if you don't live in ohio, virginia, north carolina, florida, and a handful of other states that are actually states that could flip
my state, as well as many others, is firmly democrat so I'll just save the 15 min to an hour it would take to vote
Sure Trump isn't perfect, but he is a damn sight better than fucking Hillary
Trump
>Successful businessman
>Proven entrepenuer
>Charismatic
>Is literally the only candidate who is willing to talk about immigration and race issues
>Takes a strong stance on foreign policy
>The ultimate meme
Hillary
>Lied about being shot at in Kosovo
>Is responsible for the deaths of Americans in Benghazi
>Is LITERALLY being investigated by the FBI
>Rides off Bill Clinton's fame
>Wants to shit on Iran and Syria for no reason whatsoever
>Is an ardent gun grabber
>Is a Woman
If you vote Clinton you are literally trying to destroy your own country.
Clinton, unfortunately, because Trump is a faggot
>>29623673
Writing in Bernie. I'm confused why anyone here of all places would want to vote for those two rich fucks who just want to give your neetbux to more rich fucks. They're both equally terrible in my opinion.
>>29623673
Donald Trump. Crippled America was great.
>Not voting for Trump just for that pure tumblr/reddit butthurt
>tfw trump will win in us
>tfw brexit
It's just so funny, when pic related won the elections in czechia I learned that there are more uneducated stupid people in the world and that they will have the majority of voting power.
Democracy isn't the best system, I say make some minimum iq tests that will eliminate the absolute cancer and make educated or intelligemt people decide about their countries.
Aristocracy>Democracy
>le trump wants to close the internet
>le trump wants to put muslims on a database
>le trump "scapegoats"
Holy shit, reddit has truly infiltrated /r9k/
>>29627039
>voting against self interest
Why do commies always think about themselves ? Fuck off retard.
If you're a NEET, which most of this board is, Hillary would be in your best interest.
I need to see who the running mates are and the shortlist for their cabinet choices before making a final decision but as of right now I would prefer a Trump presidency over Clinton.
He could be a total fuck up but impeachment is always a possibility if it gets that bad which is made more likely due to how much he is hated by both sides of the establishment ensuring that if it got to that point the vote would pass. This is why his running mate is so important. There is also the fact that even if he is a poor president but not so much to get impeached the voters will probably swing to the left in their state elections a couple of year from now mitigating any damage and just making it a lame duck presidency, 4 years is hardly forever.
These are all worst case scenarios though, there is always the possibility he chooses a good cabinet and listens to their council.
In the end for me I suppose it boils down to, despite conventional wisdom stating the opposite, in this case I feel the devil I DON'T know in Trump is actually better than the devil I do know in Hillary.
>>29623673
Minority voting for Trump. Brother tried to shill me into voting for the Bernout but I knew better than to support an old Communist cuck. Don't like Hilary at for the fact that she is deceiving, part of the elite, and a women (and we all know how countries with women leaders are holding up). Trump is not perfect by any means, but he is the best presidential candidate we had for years. He is the only one presenting solutions to issues that up to this point, no other candidate would talk about because of "muh feels" or flat out being called a racist (which is thrown around a lot by the left as if it is supposed to be the end all of debates). I am probably the only Trump supporter in my town as most of the people here are absolutely liberal and most won't even think to themselves and rely on the media for everything. I hope to try to persuade dome allies to support Trump with me.
If you vote for Trump don't cry when your NEETbux go bye bye.
>>29631317
I don't believe 80 percent of /r9k/ posters live off NEETbuxs.
>>29626092
>if it were as big a deal as you make it out to be, it would trump every other issue
It does you fucking idiot, it's assholes like you who are in complete denial with your fingers plugged going "la la la" like a goddamn child.
As soon as all other candidates was out Trump started dropping like a rock. Like how dumb are people to not realize from seocnd one that its all a ruse to guarantee Hillary wins?
Retards believing that the rich arent just helping eachother to rule the country
tell me when i can vote for the director of the FBI and i'll start to give a shit about """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""voting""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>29625994
only correct post in this threadd
>>29623673
I'm voting for the ugly, deceptive, unlikable one with stupid hair and shitty personal accountability.
Kill me.
>>29630700
Most of the arguments for Trump are about promoting your own group over everyone else. Are you really this retarded?
>>29632013
so which one? I honestly don't know.
>>29630726
Trump will win if he doesn't fuck up until November. His number of votes is steadily climbing. The ridiculous shit he said at the start of his campaign was clearly a way to get attention, now that he has an enormous and ridiculous amount of attention, he's changing his tune about a lot of his stances and that way he's getting votes
the devil you're voting for is more white-guilt, less jobs in the US, more immigrants (who by the way 4x more children per family than whites) more of our taxes being spent on entitlement programs, more interventionism in the Middle East, etc.
>>29624940
>>genocide of indigenous people
>>slavery of non indigenous people
>>Segregation of minority groups
........aaaannnnndddd your point being?
>>29632163
>he's changing his tune about a lot of his stances and that way he's getting votes
gonna play the devil's advocate and tell you that if shittary did this you'd be calling her a lying cunt, which is true. Ultimately Trump is clearly the lesser of two evils but I'd vote for Johnson desu
>>29632215
both are lying cunts desu, except one is being investigated by the FBI
Reminder that if you're a true robot you will vote for Vermin Supreme
Either way, whoever is elected is going to be assassinated.
>>29632037
Whites are the only people who aren't allowed to act in their own self interest without being called racist, phobic, bigoted, etc.
Literally every other ethnic group acts in it's own self interest and nobody complains, but somehow it's bad when White people do it.
>>29632305
Fuck off back to /pol/ with your conspiracy bullshit.
actually votin' 4 dolan
>Trump spent all his money on this campaign
>hfw he only did it on a dare
>hfw he's still a Democrat and just wanted to fuck with the Republicans
>>29623746
>Hillary is the epitome of everything disgusting about politics.
>Votes for Trump
Are Americans this retarded?
My Trumpy <3 pic is literally me right now
>>29626539
>/pol/ and /r9k/ have the same beliefs dumbass
Fuck off newfag
is that fucking criminal cunt hillary really going to be president?
>>29627039
Because my self-interest isn't staying a neet
I want a job doing something within my limited skillset (Computer Science or IT) and I want to make good money doing it.
>>29632418
>Trump spent all his money on this campaign
LOL not even close. He spent 0,1% of his net worth. It's the media that are blowing their money on him because of his controversial statements, they are the reason he'll win this race
>>29632468
>he thinks trump is going to make him get a good job
>he thinks the rich give a shit about the poor
kek
you'll have your neetbux taken away and placed on an assembly line
>>29632492
I don't get neetbux yet because I'm fresh outta HS and applying for CC
>>29632492
>he thinks entitlement programs is the proper way to improve wealth distribution
stay deluded, shillary cuck
>>29632305
Way to miss the point. I was responding to a post calling anti-Trump people selfish, when all the arguments for Trump are based in selfishness.
>>29632492
Everyone is aware that the top people are the most hypocritical and lying type of people. That is how they get that position. They make everyone else "follow the rules" and "ethics" which are only constraints to people who are dumb enough to do it. The sharks take advantage of all the people playing by the rules to elevate themselves. This is applied to everything and everyone on top of their area.
>>29623673
why even ask that question tbqh mate
>>29632365
How is it a conspiracy? Go on normie book right now (assuming your friends are all liberal normies) and make a post saying that you're proud to be white and that whites should organize to fight for their interests. It's pretty much a guarantee you'll be defriended by a shitload of people and have everyone call you a racist Nazi or something similar.
Now imagine someone saying that they're proud to be Mexican or proud to be Muslim, and that Mexicans and Muslims should organize to fight for their interests. This is perfectly ok and there are tons of well respected groups who represent Mexicans and Muslims.
Notice that in Muslim countries they don't reciprocate tolerance for Westerners in the way that Muslims are tolerated in the West. Nobody seems to have a problem with this. It's far from a conspiracy and is all very out in the open.
>>29632541
>all the arguments for Trump are based in selfishness
and all of Shillary's arguments are based on white guilt.
if we don't look out for ourselves, we'll end up like the EU whose self-destructive cuck policies will only destroy them. America has problems of its own, Syrians need to deal with their own instead of abandoning their country
>>29632541
Yeah I didn't read the whole thread, only saw your comment.
>>29632539
>he thinks entitlement programs is the proper way to improve wealth distribution
no i don't
>>29623951
You act as if Trump doesn't have anything as bad as Hillary.
>Trump university a blatant scam
>obscene amount of bankruptcies
>Libya double flip flop
>not self funding
>"Mispeaking" about judge and Muslim ban
>economist projections of $14 trillion added to debt under Trump tax plan
>Every one of our allies and neighbors completely hating trump
>>29632591
>and that whites should organize to fight for their interests.
That's what tips people off about your actual intentions and worldview. In a nation where most of the leadership positions are held by white people, the idea that white people need to "protect" themselves as a people through force is ludicrous.
Now before you accuse me of being some sjw fag, I recognize that the concept of privilege is largely used as a way to guilt the majority and manipulate the system in favor of radical narcissists. But white people who view their race as being victimized are almost always violent whackjobs or whackjobs who want other white people to commit violence on their behalf.
>>29624064
If you supported Bernie and his policies, how can you possibly support Trump and his? Minus their stances on trade deals, they are polar opposites.
>>29632592
Why bring up "white guilt" if the problem is radical Islam? Wouldn't most Americans be at risk, not just white people? This kind of rhetoric is why people get the reputation of being neo-Nazis or the like.
>>29632684
>obscene amount of bankruptcies
What type of bankruptcies? What's the difference? How many businesses of Trump's have failed? How many have succeeded? What percentage succeeded?
>>29632700
> But white people who view their race as being victimized are almost always violent whackjobs or whackjobs who want other white people to commit violence on their behalf.
We're trying to think long term here
think of it this way: 60% of people in the US are whites. White people only have an average of around 1.5 kid per family (or single moms rather). If Shillary gets elected, she'll take in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, each of which will have 3 to 4 children per family
Do you want to be a minority in your own country?
Who Gary Johnson here?
>>29632739
Radical islam is only part of the problem, and the "white guilt" thing is not only about foreign policy either. It's about PC culture
>>29623673
Neither, I'm not obligated to vote.
>>29632739
>This kind of rhetoric is why people get the reputation of being neo-Nazis or the like.
No, they get called Nazis mostly because they are not allowed to question the regressive left's policies and/or motivations. No amount of statistics, evidence and logic will change that
>>29632771
>who wasted vote here?
Minority third parties only work in legislative positions, local, state, and federal. No third party has a chance at president and exist only as spoiler candidates. Gary Johnson only won governor because he was a republican.
>>29626509
You are retarded, buddy
>>29632808
Yes, the fact that skinhead white nationalists and the KKK haven't had the same talking points through the decades has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's all just mind control by those evil commie lefties who hate the Great White Race!
>>29625581
it's pronounced Jilf senpai
>>29632700
>>29632700
>majority of world leaders are white
Leaders of WHITE countries. Of course the majority of our leaders are white. Problem though: these "leaders" are not actually working for the interests of their own ethnic group, like the leaders of every single non white country are doing.
These leaders have more loyalty to private elite interests (globalism) than the people of their nation. They are happy to trample over their own culture if it means making short term $$$. To them, the importance of a strong economy is paramount, even if it means wiping out your nations heritage through mass immigration. Anything to make a buck for these people.
The fact that you immediately assume anyone who advocates for the preservation of European heritage is a Nazi who wants to commit violence towards other groups is a sign you've drunk the kool-aid. There is absolutely nothing in between with you people. You're either a cuck who is pro immigration or an evil Nazi who wants to genocide all other races. Is critical thinking too difficult?
If you look at a country like Japan which is 99% ethnic Japanese and tries to keep it that way with strict immigration control, do you think the Japanese are evil Nazi supremacists as well?
>>29632892
Thanks for proving my point. Somehow everyone who isn't 100% for open borders is a nazi. Looking at statistics, predicting the death of European culture and wanting to prevent the same from happening in the US makes you a nazi. Wanting domestic manufacturing industries to prosper makes you a nazi as well. Voting for the UK to leave the EU makes you a nazi as well, perhaps?
>>29632962
What are their immigration policies as related to ethnicity and race? Be specific and cite your sources.
>>29633017
>Somehow everyone who isn't 100% for open borders is a nazi.
That's not what I said and you know it. People who claim that we need to "protect the white race" get the reputation of being white nationalists, not just anyone who is for immigration controls.
>>29626326
Holy shit
When he busts out his British accent and its actually really good
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahah piers btfo
>>29633053
The reason a lot of people don't explicitly say they want to protect the white race is precisely because it will get them branded as a white nationalist which is taboo. Their personal life and career will take a big hit if they sperg out like that.
>>29633053
See >>29632765
our birthrates are catastrophic. Instead of compensating by taking in a bunch of illiterate people (that's not racist, they are) with values opposing that of the West, we should improve ourselves
unlike the uk, the status quo. so hillary.
>>29633110
because the status quo is so good, right? who doesn't love catastrophic birth rates, declining domestic manufacturing industries, terrorist attacks all over the west and hundreds of thousands of people with Islamic values exploiting the welfare state and outbreeding us?
>>29633032
Here's an NY times article talking about how Japan doesn't allow much immigration and is reluctant to loosen the rules despite labor shortages. The Japanese just really care about preserving their culture.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/world/asia/03japan.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&referer=
Japan doesn't explicitly discriminate based on race (it would look bad) but the end result is the same. Their society is very insular and trust me they would flip out if millions of white and black people started moving there. Nothing wrong with that, it would just be out of self preservation.
>>29626326
Alex did a shit job and made himself look like the stereotypical "crazy redneck", if Piers wanted an intellectual to convince him that gun control isn't good, he would have invited Stefan Molyneux
>>29624918
Except bombing without ground troops has never worked.
>>29633449
And sending troops to weaken ISIS would be the same as holding Syria's hand like we did Iraq?
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