INTP here, should I just kill myself?
What's yours?
INTP reporting in. Been thinking about suicide a lot today.
INTP too
INTP here trying to kill myself
>>29613021
ISTP. Feels bad. I'm becoming more and more apathetic with each day.
INTJ here
>should I just kill myself?
Yes. Everybody who is "I" and "T" is pretty much not made for this society. We will die alone and will be forgotten.
INFP here, should I just feel myself?
did you answer honestly? if you suddenly turned into chad and were no longer a fatass with social anxiety, would you give more extroverted answers?
ENFP here
>feels good man
>>29613096
How could you classify ISTJ as normie? I'm like that weird robotic guy with no friends and never speaks unless spoken to (which people only do when it's necessary of course)
>>29613021
ENTJ master race checkin in
>>29613234
ISTJ are usually wageslaves that's why they are related with normies.
INFP
I have SPD so I like it.
Entp desu
it makes sense because I am a bitter /pol/ denizen who feels obligated to angrily debate the simplest things.
please kill me
>>29613256
That horse is not having a good time.
What are the essential differences between INTP, INTJ and introverted or socially inept ENTP for neet robots like me? I'm stuck with my typing.
>>29613021
Either that or join the entp master race.
>>29613021
idk bruh
>>29613096
>somehow ENFJ is divine, bus ESFJ is the most retarded
>>29613370
>ENFJ is teacher archetype while ESFJ is feminine character - caretaker.
>>29613021
Never met a happy INTP, for some reason. I'm not happy either.
>>29613262
still, it's probably the most emotionless personality there is
ISFP-T, apparently. Is this the most normie personality?
>>29613702
ISFP is one the biggest extroverted introverts and it's usually normie type.
>>29613702
I would associate normie with Chad and Chad with confidence, so it would have to be ENFP
it has to start with an E
>>29613750
>not knowing cognitive functions
>>29613765
elaborate instead of being a smart ass
End my suffering originelo
>>29613812
>you want to fix the world
>you can't even fix yourself
ENTP here, want to burn/fix it all down but don't know where and how to begin.
>>29613812
We're the worst one.
>>29613021
INTJ reporting in, I want off this ride
>>29613863
>>29613878
>Tfw I'm diagnosed with BPS and Bipolar Disorder
>Tfw last week I've had the worst depression of my entire life and I led everything in the way to kill myself only to get better today
I'll just do it once it gets bad again...
I have no idea what my type is. I have taken numerous tests over the span of years and always get INTP. However people guess me to be an ISTP most of the time. I have looked at the functions but for the life of me cannot figure out what my type would be.
Would appreciate if someone could help me with this.
>>29614012
Take this
http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/intp-or-istp.php
And show results afterwards
Not the worst i guess
originalos
ISFJ reporting in. Life is terrible.
>ESTP
>entrepreneur
This shit couldnt possible be further off.
>>29614153
>where my xSTP bro's at?
Tell me about your character.
>>29614033
>6% difference
Still doesn't tell me much.
>>29613021
Is INFP the JUST.jpg of MBTI test?
I know everything I believe in and am is horrible but somehow I'm still an INFP, this must be hell on earth.
>>29614203
Now take http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
And bring back results. We need to know whenever you use Ne or Se more.
>>29614033
I got INTP, im pretty sure im not an ISTP, my sensing isnt good enough to be ISTP. So far i find some of the INTP and INTJ functions to kind of align with my personality, but i cannot figure out if i prefer intuition or thinking and if the one i prefer is extroverted or introverted. The things i know for a fact is that my strongest functions are thinking and intuition. The rest im clueless about.
I've never been fond of personality tests.
>>29614199
What do you want to know, fampai?
>>29614223
In school, humanitarian subjects are recommended for him. With the right diligence he can completely master mathematics and physics, but more often literature, languages, and arts attract attention of this type of youth. Frequently the male INFP is drawn to theater and poetry clubs, where he can engage in unlimited self-expression, finding use to the rich range of his emotions.
Although male INFP is more inclined to solitude, he nevertheless loves to spend time in company of others. He has a small circle of friends, but knows how to rapidly strike temporary friendships even with unfamiliar people and then entire evening treat them as friends.
When all around him familiar and unfamiliar people gather to spend time together, his mood rises. While in this good mood and involved in the moment, he will joke and cheer and entertain everyone from his very soul, for he is not lacking in charm and is overflowing with positive emotion. But this is not a loud youth, so that if company gathers too numerous and very noisy, he can remain in the background unnoticed.
Male INFP is amiable, charming, non-aggressive and resourceful, so that he is often quite attractive to the opposite gender. He is easily conquered because he is compliant and indecisive, so if girl acts very energetically and persistently he will yield to her. However, it is necessary to consider that at first the male INFP can yield and being absorbed in the moment and the current mood even propose to marry you tomorrow. But just as easily as he asks this today, tomorrow he can change his mind. If he has changed his mind, he will have enough obstinacy and perseverance to escape from his promises. Young male INFP's are very careful and try to avoid arranged traps. Moreover they have the talent to foresee the course of events, which helps them to protect themselves from unnecessary encroachments.
>>29614253
Are you different with friends and strangers? Are you easily bored? Is it easy for you to show emotions and open up to other people? What are you hobbies? What kind of job would be perfect/horrible for you ?
>>29614241
have you done this http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/intj-or-intp.php
?
>>29614153
I thought that the first time I took it.
I quit lying to myself and changed 2 things and INFP is what I got. Sounds a lot more accurate.
>>29613934
Oh, hey me.
>>29614277
>Although male INFP is more inclined to solitude, he nevertheless loves to spend time in company of others. He has a small circle of friends, but knows how to rapidly strike temporary friendships even with unfamiliar people and then entire evening treat them as friends.
>non-aggressive and resourceful, so that he is often quite attractive to the opposite gender. He is easily conquered because he is compliant and indecisive
Literally me, I want to be alone but I also want to hang out with friends every once in a while. So indecisive.
>>29614314
>different with friend or strangers
I tend to be familiar quickly with strangers, i dont act much different with friends.
>are you easily bored
Depends on how you look at it, i get bored quickly doing the same thing, but i have a lot of interests so theres always something that needs to be done.
>do you show emotions
People who know me say im very distant when it comes to emotions, but imo im about as open as possible so idk.
>what are your hobbies
None at the moment, had a few in the past, never for longer than a few years.
>dream job
Construction, engineering as long as i get to stay on site a lot, that or teaching.
>worst job
Anything that needs a lot of driving. I fall asleep on the wheel so often its a real hazard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA
from 1:07 until the end, this is "INTJ the song"
ISTJ, is it bad that i should kill myself or what does it even really mean
>>29614459
Hmm, to be honest you strike me as very-weak ESTP or even ISTP.
Could you do this http://www.celebritytypes.com/personality-type/test.php if you have spare time?
INTP here too. No, you shouldn't kill yourself, but you should be aware that certain things that are easy for normies are going to be extremely hard for you (social relationships, etc), while some others are going to be easy for you and hard for normies (science, computers, engineering). So adjust your expectations accordingly.
>>29614497
it means we're all about logic and fact. INTJ on the other hand is better at thinking outside the box
ISTJ is a personality often associated with schizoid personality disorder, but that depends on the individual of course
>>29613234
They're massive sheeple that just parrot the word of the crowd and try to blend in. No originality about them as people
>>29614513
I got ESFJ. But the description doesnt match me at all.
>>29613021
no need to, death will part sooner than you think
>>29614329
Doesnt help much i guess.
Is there such a thing as a "hybrid" personality"?
>>29614653
You're right ESFJ isnt even close to ESTP. Let's take the last test
http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
And screenshot results. I have a hunch that there could be 2 or 3 functions which you use about in the same intensity.
>>29614642
The difference between them and INTJ is that they rely on observation rather than intuition. They get more shit done, while INTJ is a special snowflake
>>29614731
Same for ISTP - INTP
>>29614731
Yes, there's hybrid thing but INTJ and INTP types are too different.
I remember one saying that if you're not sure of your type you cant be INTJ
>>29614732
>http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
Nah m8, that one looks too complicated. im sick of this.
>>29614772
>they rely on observation rather than intuition
Yeah they observe other peoples opinions and tastes and mimic them, thanks to their extroverted thinking and extroverted intuition
>>29613021
ENTP master race reporting in
I believe you guys can change your inner selves and change your shit personalities and be happy.
It all depends on your actions, that social determinism is such a pathetic excuse.
>>29614807
>more generalizing
ISTJ is associated with schizoid personality disorder, which in a nutshell, is being indifferent to everyone, prefering solitude to everything else and being emotionally cold
>>29614828
Frig off, ENTP with mental gymnastics.
t. ISTP
>>29614873
>S pig making more excuses
Like i said, pathetic. You above all those xNTx types should understand that you can change the reality you are in.
INFP
I am basically doomed to be an incel because I'm also a man.
>>29614199
ISTP here
I don't really know what you want to know though...
I'm just not made for this world desu.
>>29614314
>Are you different with friends and strangers?
Yeah, I am different.
> Are you easily bored?
Yes, very easily.
>Is it easy for you to show emotions and open up to other people?
No, not really...
>What are you hobbies?
Shitposting watching anime
Nothing really actually
>What kind of job would be perfect/horrible for you ?
Something adventurous and varied, which doesn't really exist at the level I'm looking for, or something that allows me to watch anime and browse 4chan all day like the summer job I had when I was 16.
I can't quite say what the most terrible job would be, probably anything where I actually had to work X hours straight.
>>29614828
It feels good to win.
>>29614199
What's that website?
>>29613329
What makes you think our kind is the best one? Go ahead try me
another INTP here, and yes we should. at least we're not S though
ENTP master race
original commento
>>29613202
I'm also an INTP-T. I'm kinda ottermode and I don't know if my shit is social anxiety. It's more like most times starting contact seems like a huge effort for a worthless reward
>>29614970
having an S is to realize you're not special unless you actually git gud
functions information for all the mbti scrubs
>>29614992
>>29614941
All these E types on r9k. REEEEEEEEE
>>29614897
>S
>N
I've thought that ENTP's are capable of non-binary thinking.
>>29614917
ESTP and ISTP were made for adventures like Earth exploration or Universe colonization. When colonization will be open in my lifetime i'll leave this place even if that will meant i'll die in hostile planet or open space.
>>29614946
http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
Rate me, familia
Where my fellow INFJs at?
Not sure if it's a good thing to be INFJ.
>>29615037
>I've thought that ENTP's are capable of non-binary thinking.
We are, but i'm just teasing the S types anon, it's fun.
>>29615051
Young male INFj is modest, tactful, and delicate, an avid reader and generally an intellectual. Most frequently he has a slender build. He has a quiet voice, gentle gaze, affectionate smile and an elaborate system of thoughts. Often men of this type have long hair, and sometimes tie it in a tail. He does not give clothing adequate consideration, considering that this is not the main point of life. He is dressed, as a rule, very modestly. Nevertheless, rare men of this type can be dandies, devoting a lot of time and money to their appearance.
When you speak to male INFj it seems like the conscience itself is staring into your eyes. He has a gift for understanding people. He is sympathetic, capable of feeling for other's misfortunes as if they are his own, and of comforting them after sharing in their low moods. One can trust him, as he will never go against the interests of people who are close to him.
In school, boys of this type usually are inconspicuous and quiet. They are friendly with other children in the class and always ready to empathize with any student, be they friend or just a classmate. But they are not arrogant - they do not participate in fights and do not compete for leadership. They know how to find common language practically with any children. Boys of this type learn well and can display interest in technical subjects. Nevertheless they are usually more interested in relationships and are greatly occupied by the personal life of classmates, which they often quietly observe from the side, and idealistically think about them, about everything that occurs. Their experiences they then describe in verses or prose, to which they regularly devote some time.
Mustard Rice reporting in.
autismboys, comin' in hot
>>29614797
I dont really fit any of the INTJ stereotypes, so that could be the decisive factor. I just find that im probably not that good at judging myself as i admittedly am in denial *sometimes* and tend to perpetuate that, so i cant fully trust the tests.
I find that some of my traits correspond with INTP and some with INTJ. I tend to be very good at debating, but i rarely actually debate people as i dont have the will, desire or energy to do so. I tend to be a "creative synthesizer", being able to come up with good ideas and generally being innovative, but i am not really good at working the idea out to the details and working structurally. I also tend to be prospecting and prefer to keep my options open, and not to make any hard conclusions prematurely, without proper evidence or reasoning to fall back on.
As far as my talents and qualities, i have none really. Being an 19 year old NEET also gives me very little real life experience and information about myself to accurately draw a conclusion.
With the above information in mind, what would you say that i am?
master race passing by
>>29615138
I'd say you're INTP mainly because of
> I tend to be a "creative synthesizer", being able to come up with good ideas and generally being innovative, but i am not really good at working the idea out to the details and working structurally
INTJ usually are prodigies at working on one idea but struggle when everything falls apart while INTP are more flexible and better at improvising.
>>29615202
>r9k
>master race
>literally wizard is next to INFJ
>show you the right path
You won.
Who are the most likely to be schizoid - INTP, ISTP or ISTJ?
This is kind of interesting because a couple of years ago I took one of these tests and I was an INTJ. A lot of things have happened since then, but I find it somewhat surprising that my personality has changed so much since then.
>>29615363
>schizoid
INTP>INTJ>ISTJ
The main theme is retreating into fantasies, which is hard to do for ISTJ's
INTP sucks
>>29615426
>INTP sucks
Why? Shit you have good imagination and capable of thinking different approaches.
At least im not shit tier like INFP
>>29613021
Which types are roasties?
>>29613812
Hi pleb.
Is INFP the worst out of all types?
How useful are these websites?
>tfw ISTJ
Nothing can be helped.
>>29615652
There are no best or worst types. INFP's have difficult time following social codex and orientating in reality.
>>29615697
Explain fampai?
>>29615652
yes
Esse I assure you it's 100% oregano commentaro
>>29615694
We are the masters of all that can be observed. Let the INTs figure out what we don't care enough to find. We can use their ideas, then dominate using our superior capacity for reasoning, processing of information and productivity
>>29615697
Infps are the worst type, a bunch of oversensitive cucks that are detached from reality. Really easy to scam with stupid shit.
>>29614033
>>29614228
Not the same guy, but I don't know whether I'm ISTP or INTP and here's what I got after answering honestly to the three tests. The third test (keys2cognition) had questions that I struggled to go through because they felt vague and unclear.
What does it mean?
>>29615593
Hey friend.
How is your day going?
>>29614277
You should probably include that they're gay as well
>>29615697
it's objectively the worst
if you can become successful as an INFP you just won life on hard mode
>>29615089
This makes me feel guilty for being fat.
I really should be slender. I'll get slim eventually, fortunately my appetite is very low now.
>>29615859
Same as always. Terrible, you?
>>29615939
Like I said I'm starting to get into my manic phase so things are going to become better for a while. But yeah I'll probably off myself once things get worse again. Do you have close friends?
>>29616024
Yeah, but I'm p sure they're sick of me and just sorta want me to go. I want the gall to off myself,but I guess it's not bad enough yet. How long do your phases normally last?
ISTJ, I'm so autistic and by-the-book I can't improvise for shit and I'm not compulsive either
I am INTP. Why does it mean you have to kill yourself? Because you're anxious?
>>29616024
Manic phase is the worse. I'm coming down after spending about 2.5 k of savings and maxing a credit card out.
>>29616072
More than a week and normally less than 2 weeks the manic ones last a bit longer. Also I'm sure that that's just your depression making you believe stuff like that but you know that already. Things have been going better for me in general after I visited a mental hospital and my life is becoming better but all of that isn't worth anything once my depression kicks in. It has gotten worse than before and I can't do anything about it. /blog
>>29615825
I'd probably say that you're with INTP with high Fi. You're definitely not the classic INTP type and on moody occasions you could easily be mistaken as INFP as Fi would influence Ti and Ne. However if you want even bigger accuracy you can take
https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/dotest.php
enneagram test as there's correlation between enneagrams and mbti types.
>>29613021
INTJ here. I will most likely not graduate with honours, for the simple reason that my teachers do not like me: I always get shit grades for subjective evaluation tests, but totally ace standardized tests. I know it is my character, since other students would tell me they would get exellent grades if my work was under their name. People do not appreciate honesty.
>>29616190
>INFP
Really, what gives? I have trouble feeling strong emotions and I'm generally in a state of mild apathy, so I that comes as a surprise.
I was confused about whether or not I should be ISTP or INTP because I tend to gravitate towards interests that have a practical application in the real world, and I don't really like pseudo intellectual stuff, I'm more about efficient reasoning instead of empty sophistry. I'm also not a scrawny autist with no social skills even though that seems to be a prerequisite for INTPs.
Thanks for the link, I'll do the test right now
>>29616269
>INFP
Sorry that was a typo. I meant INTP with high Fi and Si. A high Si means that you're capable for learning through mistakes.
>>29616401
Finished that test, pic related.
>that was a typo
When you said I could be mistaken for INFP?
>>29616447
not the same guy but do this test and see if you get the same result http://www.enneagram.net/tests/sampler/samplerlogin.aspx
I really doubt when people test as 5 because it's so mistyped.
>>29616512
Well I think 5 is accurate.
>>29616447
Yeah, you're most likely INTP. It's unlikely that you're ISTP because Se is much weaker than Ti. I've just written wrong about you being INFP. I meant that personal feels influences your thinking and at the heat of the moment you something irrational might slip up. You're some sort of INTP/ISTJ hybrid with Fi sprinkle - capable of rational approach while acknowledging importance of inner feelings (that doesnt mean that you're whiny faggot, just with heart involved person might do much more)
>>29616636
yikes well no normieville for you
>>29613021
>be me four years ago
>INTP
>three years ago
>INTJ
>recently
>INFP
huh
>>29616684
I see, thanks for the insight, that makes things clearer.
>INTP/ISTJ hybrid
Could you elaborate on that if you don't mind? I thought ISTJs were extremely rational and down to earth.
>acknowledging importance of inner feelings
I guess. I think that the fact that I have trouble feeling strong emotions might make me more sensible to how important they are, if that makes sense. I often feel too numb.
>>29616704
I can easily pass off as a normie though. I dress well, can talk to people and hold conversations. Go figure.
>>29616158
Ahhh, well at least there's some reprieve. All that shitfeels real tho? I dunno. I'm just memepressed. I might be stuck in partial hospitalization parents sorta said I might get sent to the hospital soon. I don't want that like ever again.
>>29613021
INTP is the literal master race
>tfw sister is INTJ, the autism personality according to all you faggots, but she's a complete normie and has friends and an actual social life
Personally tests don't mean jack shit.I mean I'm an INTP and most likelly on the spectrum, but still.
>>29616768
Well I don't want to kill myself because of memes even though I enjoy meming about it
>>29613347
took forever, but my full everything
>>29613743
The ISTP and INFP descriptions are contradictory.
>>29616885
We have more or less the same political opinions, nice.
>>29616744
>I thought ISTJs were extremely rational and down to earth
They sure are but you're more flexible and capable of thinking different approaches. ISTJ usually follow instructions without asking because they are written by more competent person but you'd question his "authority" by thinking if there's a more efficient way to "improve" method. There's a second part whereas you're more practical than classical INTP because you couldnt be drifting in your mind for whole eternity. You need to use your five senses and whole body to feel better aka you're much "hands-on" person than classical INTP. There wouldnt be "lazy but smart" memes involved as you'd know what makes you lazy and what makes you smart - you know your capabilities.
>>29616885
>he included bullshit astrology
istp bruh plz
at least include your enneagram result instead so it contains useful information
>>29616815
girl autism isn't like boy autism. infp girl autistics are more what you'd imagine. they're afraid of people and isolate themselves.
>>29616904
the ISTP description sounds like it would be more fitting to ISTJ too. Prospecting is to keep one's options open, someone who is a more Judging type would prefer being organized and following a detailed routine
>>29616928
Yeah, that sounds accurate.
So, MBTI isn't completely fixed, is it? I used to think I couldn't be INTP because I wanted information to be applicable in a practical way, but it actually doesn't work that way, right?
>>29616885
Do cognitive functions test, not political compass. I really doubt that you're ISTP.
>>29616958
which test should I take? there's a few sites that have em or does it not matter
>>29617009
The ones in these posts are good. Do them both.
>>29616512
>>29616190
>>29617006
not him, but what in the fuck are you thinking. How can you doubt someone else's introspective results on a personality test if you know nothing about them
>>29615098
>Introverted 100%
>>29617006
>intj is triggered another type took his mastermind label
>be ISTP
>failed suicide attempt via carbon monoxide
>get little to no brain damage from it, the conclusion was that there was none
>one year later, take test again
>am ISTJ now
hmm
>>29616991
>So, MBTI isn't completely fixed, is it? I used to think I couldn't be INTP because I wanted information to be applicable in a practical way, but it actually doesn't work that way, right?
That means either you're classic type (strong/weak), type with one strong other function or "hybrid" one.
>>29617102
Results from different tests, shows whenever there is personality pattern
>>29617006
istj for this test
>>29613812
Same here, fucking kill me.
>>29617250
>ISTJ
>blue right wing quadrant
Makes sense
>>29617265
We're living the dream. I hope you're thankful to experience this.
>>29617250
this test sucks balls I have yet to see it get anyone's type right
So let's get this straight once and for all
Which MBTI test out there is the most reliable and accurate?
>get infp
>suddenly everything makes sense
No more
>>29617368
http://similarminds.com/embj.html
or just type yourself you lazy cunt look here >>29615028
>>29617322
>>29617350
i'm doing one of the enneagram tests now. if anything maybe that test can better tell if I am istp or istj? shit is dumb, all I know i'm lonely/have ocd and bipolar II disorder/very into right wing politics with a libertarian edge
>>29613554
Intp
Depressed and at rock bottom.
I'm good looking enough to pick out a girl in a week or less. Many options.
Still not worth it.
Suicide feels more likely each year. Fuck..
>>29617422
>good looking
atleast you have one thing as oppose to uglybots
>>29616269
>I was confused about whether or not I should be ISTP or INTP because I tend to gravitate towards interests that have a practical application in the real world, and I don't really like pseudo intellectual stuff, I'm more about efficient reasoning instead of empty sophistry. I'm also not a scrawny autist with no social skills even though that seems to be a prerequisite for INTPs
Are you me?
>>29615873
>tfw a tranny and INFP
I feel like the universe is constantly trying to prove to me that me existing was a mistake and that I should just give up. Like I'm perpetually being taught a lesson that I'm just not cut out for life through my life experience
>>29617509
>Are you me?
Maybe.
>>29617413
le loyalist, I am
>>29617537
>tranny
Why? Beyond 25 years, you'll regret that decision
>>29617490
Yes but as you and I probably know what women are like. They can't understand logic and despite male feelings.
That's the 2 things my life consists of, logic and feelings because excessive logic.
>>29617544
you got the mental illness type
>>29617544
>type 6
I'm pretty sure that you're lost ISTJ who needs guidance.
>>29617544
where did you do this one
haven't seen that test before
>>29617591
guess that makes sense with what I said here>>29617413 my childhood was extremely rough btw (drug addict parents etc)
>>29617625
https://www.eclecticenergies.com/
>>29617218
yeah that's what you were implying, but what's the contradiction you're seeing? the part about the mastermind? because if that's it you put too much faith in the INTJ meme
>>29617569
I can't explain this shit. It wasn't really just "Oh I am going to decide I'm gonna be a tranny". All I know is I've felt it my whole life. Even if you think I'm mentally ill, I don't see how you could see it as a choice
I looked up how to transition at a very young age but got scared because it sounded hard, but I finally decided to go through with it while I was still I teenager so I would get the best results possible from HRT. I'm 23 now and I don't regret it at all-- I have passed on the phone and IRL for years now and my biggest regret is not starting sooner
I'm depressed and lonely for lots of other reasons. I mean, sometimes I do feel like my life is a cosmic joke, but I would rather die than go off hormones and detransition
post your cognitive function scores familia
http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
Don't kill yourself///IgotMuted for telling you not to kill yourself because it was "unoriginal".
>>29617675
>I mean, sometimes I do feel like my life is a cosmic joke, but I would rather die than go off hormones and detransition
But you do realize that this whole illusion wont be for long? Sure it's good, that you try to live mental illness through but in the end you'll feel even worse than if you've never transitioned.
i'm an intp along with my girlfriend.
>>29617822
You have no idea what you're talking about. It's not something you can understand if you haven't experienced it
I would have killed myself if I didn't transition. I feel a lot better about the way I look and who I am now.
>inb4 something about the rate of suicides for trans people going up after transitioning
that's because people treat us like shit. we're one of the most universally hated demographics. being trans is hard as fuck
Thanks for replying though, people like you actually give me the encouragement to keep going
>>29617878
/mental illness/ plz go
>>29617878
Not the guy you replied to, but do you think and acknowledge that you have a mental problem or not at all? I'm just curious, it's not a loaded question.
>>29615089
Sauce or did you come up with this?
Either way, is there any more? I feel like stroking my INFJ ego tonight
>>29617878
>that's because people treat us like shit.
that's a good reason for not transitioning. Think of all the people who never did transition back when it wasn't socially acceptable
>>29613021
>tfw INTJ and everyone hates INTJ's here
Well all right then
>>29617897
Now you're barking orders? What are you, some kinda ESXJ?
>>29617878
>that's because people treat us like shit
Do you really think society should let arsonists burn buildings until they will have enough of it? Why i normal person should treat you any better if society is enabling mental ones enable their illnesses even more?
>>29617951
you better be joking. Look at how many INTJ's and INTP's there are in this thread. Anyone who isn't that get hated on for being inferior or a normie
>>29617958
>implying that type exists here
go back to your tumblr containment board >>>/lgbt/
>>29617907
Whether or not I do doesn't change how I feel, nor would it change the fact that transitioning is literally the only remotely effective treatment for gender dysphoria. For years people attempted to find a 'cure' and nothing else worked. I'm just dealing with my situation the best way I can, and I just want to live my life
>>29617938
I don't blame people for not transitioning out of fear of being outcasts. It was even harder in the past than it is now. For some people it isn't worth the hate-- for me, the kinda people who would hate me/treat me like shit aren't the people whose opinions I really care about anyway
>>29617991
>comparing trans people to arsonists
lmao we literally don't do anything to destroy other people's property but ok dude whatever makes you feel justified in hating people that literally do nothing to you
also
>Why i normal person should treat you any better
1. get out of /r9k/ normie
2. lol
>>29618001
>implying that type exists here
that'sthejoke.jpg
>>29618035
I wasn't judging you, I was just asking.
Best of luck anyway.
idk, the page seems to portray the logician in a good way but i don't feel it. Is being introverted bad for others, i like it, but how does it affect others?
>>29617951
>tfw I bullied INTJs so hard they stopped posting in these threads
>>29618054
I assume most people hate us when they make that kind of equivalency. Best of luck to you in your endeavors too, tho
>>29618035
>lmao we literally don't do anything
I'd be perfectly fine, you'd be transperson if some sort of mental ward but now you're besides walking free, you're enabling other people to ruin their lives.
>>29618117
>the fact that you're not locked up is triggering me
kek
>you're enabling other people to ruin their lives
our lives only get ruined because people treat us like shit. the ruining isn't done by us, it's done to us by other people out of a kneejerk reaction because people see something they're not used to and think "lock it up". sounds like fascism to me. who am i kidding this is /r9k/ you are probably a literal fascist anyway lmao
I honestly love hearing stuff like this though-- makes me motivated to persevere to spite people like you
INTJ is literally the master race
>>29617996
that's because we're all lurking 4chan since we're all I's and T's.
>>29617996
Oh, shit, nvm, fuck that dude. >>29617951
I assumed they were talking about society as a whole.
>>29618200
To be fair, you shouldn't really expect society to treat gender dysphoria as a natural thing, right? To tolerate it is one thing, to endorse it is another, I think.
The problem isn't gender dysphoria in itself, it's the fact that some people are shoving it down our throats in the name of the progressive, modernist anti-bigotry agenda and start treating it as something completely natural, desirable even. Wouldn't you agree that it's excessive?
Fascism has nothing to do with what you've described, by the way. The misuse of that term highly triggers me even though I'm not a fascist.
>>29618200
>our lives only get ruined because people treat us like shit. the ruining isn't done by us, it's done to us by other people out of a kneejerk reaction because people see something they're not used to and think "lock it up". sounds like fascism to me. who am i kidding this is /r9k/ you are probably a literal fascist anyway lmao
Is this becoming /tumblr/ central? Getting so hothead because stranger has completely different opinion?
>makes me motivated to persevere
Let's talk about this whole "living the fetish" thing in 15 years. If you'll be alive by that point. Honestly, how long you think this whole delusion will last?
>>29614797
>comptetant
yeah, I guess the "quickly sees inconsistencies" trait is about right
>>29618208
yeah, master race when it comes to forums and intellectual discussion. The majority of society is composed of extroverts strictly because extroverts are better at reproduction and spreading their personalities around. If we're talking about race as a whole, i feel that success and monetary gain do not apply when it comes to natural selection/evolution (which kinda doesnt exist in a beneficial way for humans anymore) but none-the-less. the more you "conquer/procreate" the more successful you are biologically.
>>29618208
No that's ENTJ or ENFJ. ENTP come close though.
>>29618266
I agree that it is far more advertised than it should be, but the problem is the people that don't just say "whatever" are far less likely to even hear them out unless they make a big uproar.... They should go about it in a different manner for sure, less (we are openly sexual and perverts) and more, "we love all of you and all of us." I bet u, in 60 years. No one will give a fuck about gender or sexuality. It'll be a lost topic like that kid that got the shit kicked out of him when you were a sophomore in highschool.
>>29618266
I expect to be treated like a human and not locked away like an animal because I have a condition that is uncommon. It doesn't stop me or other trans people from contributing to society in other ways.
>The problem isn't gender dysphoria in itself, it's the fact that some people are shoving it down our throats in the name of the progressive, modernist anti-bigotry agenda and start treating it as something completely natural, desirable even. Wouldn't you agree that it's excessive?
I don't think it's excessive-- I think that the violence that we face is excessive. The reason this is being done is the same reason that gay rights have been pushed so hard-- LGBT people have been treated like shit for a long time, and there is an effort to make that stop. In fact, gay rights only exist because LGBT people (led by trans people) rioted at Stonewall and other places. People don't give rights easily-- they have to be fought for
also, just because something is uncommon, doesn't make it undesirable or 'unnatural'. rare things actually are usually worth more. plus everything is nature-- including human behavior. Trans people have existed in practice and concept for a long, long time. Just google "history of transgenderism"-- like homosexuality, it is a human phenomenon that has been around for a long time and isn't going anywhere-- fighting it and locking people up is cruel and isn't going to solve anything. Is it really that upsetting to you to just let people live their lives and not be a dick about it? It takes less effort to just let trans people exist, than it does to try to demonize it and stomp it out (which has been tried time and time again and has literally never worked)
>>29618282
See what I said about the fact that transgenderism as well as ideas of a "third gender" have existed literally as long as human civilization
>>29618456
This whole trans-progressive thing is very influential to kids. You really think that kids knows about their future that they actually transition? Doctors could treat you better but they are enabling your behavior to draw more patients and make even more money.
>>29618456
not him
>I think that the violence that we face is excessive
are you saying there can never be a middle ground between hatred and worship?
>also, just because something is uncommon, doesn't make it undesirable or 'unnatural'.
unnatural, yes, undesirable no. It's unnatural to have an IQ of 180 for instance. It's also unnatural to be born with two noses. Not that being trans makes you a freak, but it doesn't have to make you special and precious either.
>>29613096
The fuck is this? ISTP is not a thinker
>>29618616
list the personalities you would describe as the thinking type
>>29618556
>Doctors could treat you better but they are enabling your behavior to draw more patients and make even more money.
They tried for decades. Nothing else works. Might as well try to 'cure' gayness
>This whole trans-progressive thing is very influential to kids.
So kids who are trans will have more access to transition resources and less reasons to be terrified? Sounds like a good thing to me. It isn't about brainwashing kids to 'become' trans
It's about letting kids be more free in their gender expression. See pic related. Forcing a male or female role onto a kid is actually more 'brainwashing' than letting a kid experiment with gender presentation if they want to
The number of people who transition and detransition and regret it is less than 1% of all trans people
>>29618616
>ISTP
>T
>Leading function Introverted Thinking
Are you that dumb?
>>29618663
>kids who are trans
The fact that this doesn't strike you as aberrant from the get-go makes it evident that you're not very lucid.
>>29618638
ISFP, ISTJ, ESTJ, INFJ, INTJ, INTP
ISTP are the doers. They have more practical skills
>>29618571
>are you saying there can never be a middle ground between hatred and worship?
There is literally no one calling for the worship or trans people. There are many people calling for them to be killed/beaten/locked up. I think legal protection is not very extreme
>unnatural, yes, undesirable no. It's unnatural to have an IQ of 180 for instance. It's also unnatural to be born with two noses. Not that being trans makes you a freak, but it doesn't have to make you special and precious either.
Exactly-- it shouldn't have any bearing on my worth. There are terrible people who are trans, and good people who are trans. Just like anything else
>>29618689
You're making literally 0 sense. All trans people start out as kids
>>29618556
Fuck doctors. I say no one should be able to change genders through surgery or hormones until they are 18, but i don't think that any doctor is qualified to treat any mental "disorder". most of them have been invented and are abused as an excuse to keep raking in cash and keep people on a fine prescription of docile, submissive behavior.
>>29618695
See >>29618681
I'm an ISTJ and I feel like that might be more of a drone than the ISTP. The difference is the Prospecting part, if I'm not mistaken it means to keep your options open while the Judging type is more organized, not as good at improvising and follows a detailed plan/routine.
>>29618663
>It isn't about brainwashing kids to 'become' trans
It literally is. Do you think that 5 or 6 year old can decide his gender on his own? Let's say Billy sees that Mandy is getting treated better by classmates and parents. He tells to parents he wants to be girls because they treated better. You really think that would a sign to transition?
>>29618732
>I say no one should be able to change genders through surgery or hormones until they are 18
Many trans people disagree-- going through a puberty that you don't want makes it much harder to pass as the desired gender. If you were so certain of your gender before age 18, why do you think it's impossible for a trans person be certain of theirs at the same age?
Are you saying that before you were 18 you weren't sure of your gender?
ENTP - The Debater
idk how i feel about this
>>29618763
Why do people think there is an agenda to turn kids trans? Who is doing this brainwashing?
Besides, I'm not saying a 5 year old should get on hormones-- puberty doesn't start at age 5
But if that same 5 year old has been saying from age 5-15 that they are a girl when they were assigned male at birth, then yeah. I think they should be able to transition
> Let's say Billy sees that Mandy is getting treated better by classmates and parents. He tells to parents he wants to be girls because they treated better. You really think that would a sign to transition?
This is such a gross oversimplification of the concept. You have no knowledge about transgenderism and you're pulling nonexistent anecdotal evidence out of your ass
>>29618764
yes, ive had bisexual tendancies in the past until i was about 17-18 when i realized i didn't enjoy any kind of anal stimulation but was just looking for another outlet to my sexual frustration and found nothing attractive about males, I experimented to be sure. No i don't enjoy blowjobs from dudes.
>>29613021
Here, and i gonna start stud Law in the uni next month. Wish me luck R9k.
>>29618695
>ISFP is more of a thinker than ISTP
explain
>>29618800
>Why do people think there is an agenda to turn kids trans? Who is doing this brainwashing?
People who make money out your misery. People who make buck by selling hormones, fake boobs and so on. The same people push it as normal thing to change your gender. If there wouldnt be pushing transgenderism as normal and desirable thing to do, no one would care about trans as degenerate thing.
>>29618835
*wishes luck*
You're gonna need it if you go to a meme law school.
>>29618879
Law school is apparently not that bad, getting in is harder.
>>29618801
You're talking about sexuality. Gender and sexuality are two different things. Even if you want to conflate them-- it sounds like you were able to experiment to come to that conclusion. Surely people should be allowed to experiment with gender in the same way, so they can learn if they want to transition or not.
Transition isn't some all or nothing thing. Very few trans people actually get bottom surgery, and those that do, do so after many years and many letters from therapists giving approval for the treatment. It isn't some whim thing that people jump into and then regret just like that. It is like, one of the very late steps in transition, if it happens at all
>>29618879
It's a good school, the problem is just my autismo.
>>29618906
It's very true.
>tfw INTJ
>there will never be an INTJ uprising
>>29618924
Now imagine those couples with male and transfemale. What if transfemale never says about transition to male? Is this desirable thing to do?
>>29617878
I feel like I've waited too long and even if I did while younger, I'd need more than Jenner money to pass. I'm just going to die alone and unhappy rather than die alone, unhappy, and in debt.
>>29618878
You realize that all gender is a scam to make bucks off of people's insecurity. To get people to pay the extra money for a "Men's soap" or a "women's soap" instead of just "soap". The issue isn't exclusive to transgenderism
>If there wouldnt be pushing transgenderism as normal and desirable thing to do
Something doesn't have to be "normal" to be considered okay to do. I have never heard anyone say being trans is normal, just that it shouldn't result in a person being denied dignity
>>29618964
I'm sorry senpai you lost me. I literally don't know what you're trying to say anymore. If you mean that a trans woman never tells her male partner that she is trans, then I mean, personally I wouldn't do that (I don't like men anyway), but really if you love the person and find them sexy, what difference does it make? I am not endorsing lying to someone tho. There is such a scare about this among men though-- getting "trapped". This almost never happens because trans women are afraid that they will get beaten/killed if the guy finds out
>>29618931
Good, though why would an autist wanna be a lawyer?
>>29619001
>You realize that all gender is a scam
Stopped reading there. Is tumblr leaking on r9k?
If gender wouldnt be important it wouldnt existed in the first place.
>>29618835
Where?
Seriously. We might be 1Ls together.
>>29618787
Should feel good.
>>29619001
>all gender is a scam to make bucks off of people's insecurity
Where do you think that insecurity originated? No, the fundamentals of gender are not a social construct, it's instinct and hormones, tangible developmental, neurological and psychological differences that can be observed in any and societies regardless of culture or isolation. If a female's instinct is to act like a boy, her brain is not wired correctly, period
>>29618972
It is never too late, anon. Trust me-- dysphoria literally makes you think you're worse off than you are. I thought I would never pass without facial surgery, and it turned out to just be insecurity.
Just look at this chick. If she can do it, you can too.
as far as debt from transitioning, that only comes from surgery, which most trans people don't get anyway. hormones are quite affordable with a prescription
But do whatever you think is best for you. I'm not here to pressure you. But I do encourage you to see a therapist, regardless of what you decide
>>29619022
IRDK, i just have an affinity for the area.
>>29619051I live in Brazil m8
>>29619035
>If gender wouldnt be important it wouldnt existed in the first place
I could use that logic on transgenderism. If it weren't important it wouldn't exist in the first place
>>29619117
Even if I agree with you, there is no known way to "rewire" the brain of trans people. There is no fix. It's just how we are
>>29613021
>ESTJ
Where my bros at?
Please stop debating about gender-issue-wathever. Sage this shill and call it a day. Those threads used to be comfy...
>>29619145
Alright then, godspeed anon.
>>29619165
>ESTJ
I would probably hate you - being such an arrogant know-it-all prick.
>>29619119
>>29619147
>>29619001
>>29618924
>>29618800
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT
CANCER
>>29619214
How do you know I am?
>>29619165
ESTJ reporting in.
We out here.
>>29619228
I've met a fair share of ESTJ.
>>29619228
>95 % E
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE NORMIE?
OUT
>>29619147
>Even if I agree with you, there is no known way to "rewire" the brain of trans people. There is no fix. It's just how we are
That's correct. And obviously nature didn't decide that skirts were for women and women only, but I thought it was extreme to say that gender was invented by western culture, or whatever you meant by that
>>29619225
u mad? because you just seem kinda mad, is all i'm saying
>>29619165
>E
CHAD GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>29613021
I get INTP most of the time, but some tests give me INFP.
Kill me.
Kill me now.
>>29619119
that's...actually pretty inspiring, anon. i'll talk with somebody if nothing else.
>>29619285fucking make me cunt
