Does it worry anyone else how many women seem to be inured on "kinks" these days?
I can't deny I find it a turn on in certain circumstances, but it makes me feel like women are becoming more and more obsessed with sex, and less interested in emotional intimacy.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Note I have experience with women.
>>29609024
It's because a generation of young girls/women are growing up who only understand how to express their emotions through sex.
Peers, schools, media, ect are unironically ruining children and have been for the past few decades but only so drastically in recent years.
>>29609024
Fucking good
I am a sexual degenerate beyond belief. If women open up and explore more sexually, I don't look as bad as a dating option.
Kinks and emotional intimacy can both co-exist
I think you're just feeling discontent at societies bigger focus and advertising on sex, it's way less private than before.
>>29609059
>the media
Just call them what they are. Nobody is going to call you a racist.
Fembots: don't watch porn. It ruins men and it ruins you too.
It's because of the internet stupid
how many guys do you think were into reverse vore, diapers and fart porn 20-years ago?
>>29609024
What you feel is invoked by media propaganda, not through actually conversing with women.
As someone who earns money by making advertisements 5 days a week, I have to say that all advertisement is an elaborate lie.
Please get your notions about society by talking to people in a 3D-world, through actual real-life conversations.
Every other information source in the world other than first-hand-experience is going to be biased and full of PR-spooks.
>>29609107
I agree, but can you not defile my thread with your ironic nagger rappers?
>>29609077
What if they're something like a partner you love being into girls or guys of another race than you, or things that make it hard to look at them the same way again?
The odd rape fantasy sure, it's fine, women have always liked being ravished. But when it's stuff like "cut me open with a knife and make me drink my own piss" then it's pathological.
You have literally allowed the Jews who run pornography to co-opt your sexuality.
>>29609062
I'm a sexual degenerate too. My relationships have primarily been with sexual degenerates. But listen, young one, you'll find it depresses you in the long run.
>>29609151
>You have literally allowed the Jews who run pornography to co-opt your sexuality.
Free, from ZOG, free from the pornography, free from ID control. Our minds free from their prisons. That's the haven I've yearned for.
>>29609220
kek'ed at this pretty hard
>>29609087
Remember, if you ever wondered who holds the power in a society, think about who you're not allowed to criticize.
>>29609024
I'm very kinky and still require emotional intimacy before I'll reveal that. I don't think they are mutually exclusive.
>>29609087
But... but I like porn sometimes...
Porn is the most degenerate thin currently in society. I pressure the man I am currently dating to give up 3D porn and I hope he honestly can see why I did.
It is the worst thing out there. Worse than the "drug epidemic" government likes to talk about, worse than all the faggot tranny rights running about. Worse than even globalization, in my opinion.
It really has coopted our sexuality and ruined male-female relationships for good. And for what? Because some man children screamed and cried and demanded that hardcore pornography be allowed to be produced and distributed in the USA. >>29610019 says look at who you aren't allowed to criticize. Well the pornography industry has always been a big force in the last fifty years. Lawyers, journalists, authors, and even doctors have been bad mouthed and had their reputations ruined for daring to speak out again pornography. It will always exist and it will keep getting more and more degenerate because for every voice shouting against it, there are thousands spreading the propaganda of porn everywhere.
Pandora's box has already been opened and there is no coming back from this. Men are addicted, grovelling, broken hulls instead of people. Women are pressured into doing all sort of degenerate sex acts in the hopes of appealing to the men that watch this degenerate stuff. And in the end, men have gotten so used to the novelty in porn that they leave for the next best (and most degenerate) girl that shows them attention, leaving a generation of single mothers behind. And that's the best case scenario.
Porn has killed monogamy, it has killed love, it has turned our world into a cold, degenerate, sex-starved one.
>>29611063
>in the end, men have gotten so used to the novelty in porn that they leave for the next best (and most degenerate) girl that shows them attention
Fuck off. I cut all contact as soon as I see she's into choking or whatever the fuck kind of bullshit. The women are the ones perpetuating this shit.
>everybody's saying it's the internet/media
>grew up in the 90's with no internet
>by 8 was already a gore-infatuated sadist
These predilections are naturally born deformations and quirks, or are burned into the mind through early experiences.
They are as frequent as they ever were, but are openly discussed due to anonimity, and realized as sexual- i.e. people who had certain textural preferences like chains, lace, or latex wouldn't have always realized that it was a quasi-sexual urge.
>>29610019
>cant criticise disableds or the mentally retarded
anon are you in charge?
>>29609024
What's wrong with people having kinks?
I have a shit ton of kinks
>>29611063
>actually typing this
hello mr alt right
>>29611454
why are you calling him alt-right when he's laying down radfem talking points
dumb redditposter
>>29609062
Eventually you'll realize nothing is good about being a sexual degenerate, and that pure relationships with good morals would've been so much better.
>>29611475
he's bringing down the same bullshit he picked up on /pol/, just emotional girl talk with no logical arguments to back it up.
>>29610663
Deep emotional intimacy?
Do girls who are really neck-deep into kinks actually want to be loved and have someone settle down with them and wife them?
>>29611821
Not that anon but I'm pretty degenerate sexually but I wouldn't do any of my kinks with random strangers. Doing them with someone I care about is what I want.
>>29611821
Into kinks and yes. I do. Ideally my husband would be my Dom and we'd explore bdsm together. Finding a guy suitable to do it is the hard part. Bdsm is full of weirdos and I'm pretty traditional!girl who doesn't want my sex pref to define all aspects of my life.
>>29611197
You have to distinguish between organically rough sex, which women enjoy, and all the tack-ons you see in porn. Pinning a girl down and fucking the shit out of her after a night out together is not "porny", choking her or even spanking her isn't.
These are normal things women have always enjoyed. It's things like facials, rimjobs, being pissed on etc that porn has imparted.
Fembots, unfortunately, love it all.
>>29611879
>Pinning a girl down and fucking the shit out of her after a night out together is not "porny", choking her or even spanking her isn't.
Go jerk off and let the grownups talk in peace.
>>29609185
>>29611676
>R9k is this gay
>>29611855
>>29611857
Yeah, I banged submissive girl I met on FetLife and it was just depressing. The entire place was just depressing really. I mean "I want an abusive boyfriend" as a group with thousands of members? The girl I hooked up with was bitterly unhappy. All she wanted was for someone to love her and she kept on looking for it in the most stupid of places. We still keep in touch because even if I'm not dating her, when someone pours their heart out to you like that you can't help but care about them a little.
These people really blur the line between genuinely harmful shit and pretend-shit too far.
And anons in general should understand the female psyche is fragile. Even among the crazies on FetLife, very few would actually do stuff with strangers.
>I'm pretty traditional!girl who doesn't want my sex pref to define all aspects of my life.
What specifically do you like about kinks?
>Doing them with someone I care about is what I want.
What qualifies as someone you care about? I care about plenty of girls I have either never had sex with or no longer have sex with.
>>29611879
> choking her or even spanking her isn't.
ask yourself why you feel the need to do these things (that don't feel very good to women who aren't self-hating)
>>29611908
Nothing is going to change the fact the vast majority of women enjoy rough sex. What can be changed are some of the really messed up shit that has entered into people's consciousness and got stuck there because of porn ("pissplay", "rimming", "BBC", "cuckolding" etc).
>>29611961
Typing with cock in hand is rude.
>>29611959
>self-hating
It's funny you bring that up. I remember asking a girl on fetlife what exact she saw in black guys and she replied with probably the most honest answer I've ever seen, not verbatim but: "Nothing, I just have no self-esteem and the idea of having sex with men whose ancestors were brought over here as slaves and are the lowest of the low socially satisfies that. Physically the best sex I've ever had has been with white men."
I wish I'd have saved it, because it's a really interesting psychological insight into those sorts of fetishes. But I deleted my account after realizing that cheap hookups weren't worth being exposed to the sorts of utterly fucked up people you see on there.
>>29611961
>the majority of women enjoy rough sex
>the only women i've ever been sexual with have been degenerate quirky nerd girls with self esteem problems, and watching porngirls
too much cosmo magazines and "self-discovery" tumblr blogs
these things are social constructs and wouldn't exist otherwise
>>29611943
>What qualifies as someone you care about?
Just normal things like if I think about them all the time and they make my heart beat faster. If I care about their safety and well being to the point where I will go out of my way for them. If I want to be with them all the time, etc.
>be completely average 4-5/10
>don't get women because I'm not putting 100% into myself and not going for 3/10 instead of 5/10 while women go for 7-8-9/10s regularly and debase themselves so they can 'hook him in'
>turn to porn as an outlet
>women who can't get a stable relationship because they keep demanding a man out of their league just because they exist start demanding I stop watching porn and settle for them after they had numerous relationships and one-night stands while I'm stuck at number 1
>>29612012
I find it hard to believe that the quirky nerd girls are the only group with self-esteem problems. A lot of guys enjoy them for the specific reason they tend to be into such things though, so you may be onto something.
>>29612030
Oh right, that's a lot more serious than I imagined initially.
>>29609024
it's cause women believe that's all men want. women only think about how they can get to a mans heart in the most shallow way. now maybe this isn't true for ALL women, but it is so for the women you believe to be infatuated with kinks
I'm with you OP.
One of the things I love about women is the fact they put emotions before sex, or at least the good ones do. It's a real shame to see that sweet and beautiful character trait they have being eroded by porn.
Girls just shouldn't watch porn.
>>29612121
Neither should men.
Men who are addicted to porn are basically undateable trash. Any girl who also doesn't watch porn would never tolerate that shit from a man.
>>29612121
>Girls just shouldn't watch porn.
They shouldn't watch ANY propaganda whatsoever, from commercials to soap operas to news. Since they're about a thousand times more susceptible to them than men apparently.
Can we all just take a minute to appreciate the beauty of Bruna Dapper?
Literally how can anyone look at this and claim asian women are better than white women?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>29612087
Yeah, for me it doesn't have to be an are you going to marry me relationship but I have to like you and be sexually attracted to you.
>>29612190
>face covered in skin cancer
Lmao
>>29609024
Just wait when those roasties will in their 30's - 40's and desperately want to have family.
>>29612220
>tfw the next ice age hits and all the non-whites die
Winter is Coming, shitskin.
>>29611959
But, to a lot of people they do feel good. I enjoy getting spanked, because it feels really good with all of the nerve endings down there. Some people respond differently to the same physical stimuli.
>>29612199
You should ideally want to get married.
>>29609024
The western world in general has become more about sex and less about intimacy.
>>29611943
I guess I like the control mental aspects of bdsm intermixed with some physical parts likd collars and chastity belts.
And yeah. Doesn't surprise me about meeting a desperate mentally unstable sub. I tried Fetlife and got tons of messages from faux Doms who are abusive and just want a slave or quick fuck. I'm not interested in either.
>>29609024
Women unironically enjoy sex and have fetishes for no one else but themselves. they're not really much different than dudes at heart.
>>29610852
What sort of porn do you like.
>>29612727
Not him but FL is full of those types. I have a massive white knight complex so I'm obsessed with "saving" often crazy, sexually messed up girls I meet online.
Only white ones though.
>>29609024
I don't see how men and women finding common ground is all that bad. If everyone was more open about their sexual preferences, then maybe we can finally move past this prudish society we live in (at least in north america).
>>29613779
>this prudish society we live in
TumblReddit pls go back.
Please? Just go.
>>29609121
>Implying women aren't gigantic whores with open sexual histories
Tell me more about how professionals compartmentalize their sex lives from work.
>ITT: fembots claiming porn is bad, then going off on autistic tangents about how they like to be sexually abused by Chad
Makes perfect sense, right girls?
>>29613779
>prudish
I know you're probably a complete moron. But try to understand it in these terms: The contemporary western world is the most sexually liberal, libertine society that has ever existed among any major civilization ever on earth.
That's not hyperbole. That's fact. What you see on places like FL makes late antique Rome look morally pure.
>>29613845
Chad's absurdly violent tendencies in the bedroom are perfectly acceptable if he follows them up with "aftercare, bae" - the distinction from Stockholm Syndrome? I don't see it either.
>>29613982
What if you love doing that kind of stuff to girls but you legitimately feel bad afterwards and want to cuddle them?
>>29614039
This is a common end to instances of domestic abuse - again, very little distinction between kink and the real thing. Women fuck their husbands after they beat them badly, it's for the feeling of protection.
>>29614179
In this case I'm cuddling her after beating her though.
>>29614237
The perpetuated cycle of these behaviors leaves very little difference between your approach and a common abuser's. Degeneracy is your decision, I just use this discrepancy as a reason to avoid relations with women because they're fucking crazy.
>>29613845
desu I'm the abuser in all my sexual fantasies
but I dont think I'd want to do any sort of S&M irl since it would probably just be awkward and depressing to treat a boyfriend disrepectingly in bed
>>29614425
asl plz marry me
>>29614425
I'm the one that made that post. I admit, I even have fantasies of mywife, if I marry someday, but probably neverbeing a little rough with me sexually, but I am aware that it's incredibly degenerate and this is the first time I've ever mentioned it to someone else.
The narrative is correct, that porn is degenerate and encourages slut culture, but women just don't seem to have the ability to cross-examine things. They complain about porn, and other things, then go be 'kinky' and do slutty things and film themselves having sex.
>>29609024
The number of girls into bestiality is really disconcerting.
And I'm not talking about interracial hurr durr
>inb4 cuck
Talking about actual dog, horse, dragon fucking.
I've sworn off women for the next 20 years.
>>29614549
pretty sure most women now adays watch porn they just dont mention it to men
I used to actively avoid porn (seeing real people having sex is just a bit gross desu, prefer erotica) but now it gets spammed on 4chan daily I now understand why everyone has all these weird hang ups about how big their dick is or if they can deep throat ect ect
>>29614799
Doesn't help that a lot of women actively encourage that stuff, going on about how black men are "better" or whatever.
>>29613868
Yeah, but most of Europe is noticeably more sexually open than in North America. People are generally pretty secretive over their fetishes if they have them or very ignorant if they don't have any.
This is why when a fetish related topic comes up, you get tons of people saying "i don't see the appeal in x." when the appeal is that it's a fetish and people can't help what they're attracted to. There's a lot of ignorance, and a lot of room for improvement even for the western world.
>>29612379
Why though? I like children but I don't really care about starting a family and I don't mind being alone.
My family is realy toxic and I wouldn't want anyone to marry into that anyway.
I don't see any problem with just dating someone forever either.
>>29609024
Every girl that I'm really dismissive of or ignore gets really interested in me and the girls I actually try to get a better relationship with aren't bothered about me at all.
Joined a chat recently with a mate and a few other people with a girl on there.
Most of the other people on there are betas, the sort that joke about send nudes and try to get attention from her in kinda cringeworthy ways.
Don't really like her, end up berating her badly in chat and acting like a right cunt.
She starts talking to me loads and I'm acting mostly the same as before, then starts sending videos of herself and messaging really dirty lines back.
"I want you to fuck me in the ass until I'm begging you to stop", "I'd love you to tie me up" etc.
Wants to meet up.
This happened a few months ago and it's still going on.
????
>>29614985
Which discord server is this?
I think I might be in it
>>29614916
This sounds like the ramblings of a bored spoiled white woman with a feminist blog.
This entire thread is degeneracy incarnate.
>>29614999
What's discord?
Tell your story
>>29615054
Lol nvm then
Avoid discords at all costs
Fucking cancerous as shit
>>29615112
lmao what happened to you?
it just looks like a budget mumble
>>29614916
People should be secretive about their fetishes. Activists fought for the right to sex in the privacy of the bedroom - not to show off how edgy they can be over their cummies, but so that their reputations wouldn't be ruined by their private behavior. If that behavior is made public, you're going to be judged, and rightfully so.
>>29614916
>Yeah, but most of Europe is noticeably more sexually open than in North America.
No we aren't.
America is absurdly lewd. It's literally where all these disgusting fetishes were popularized in the first place.
Stop idealizing us as your liberal bastion and fuck off, Shillary voter
>>29611959
Spanking is literally intrinsically sexual interaction. Human beings have been practicing erotic spanking for longer than it's been used as actual discipline.
>>29615174
>tfw no older guy to act out a dd/lg relationship with
kill me
>>29615358
I'll be your dd if you'll be my lg
Just don't be black or fat, thanks
>>29609107
But the internet only united those people, not necessarily creating them.
You wouldn't talk about your secret anal vore fetish with someone in real life 20 years ago just the same as you wouldn't now.
>>29614817
almost no white women dont like black men lmao
now bad boys are a real thing
>>29609024
There are plenty of men who have "kinks" too right?
Or do you like up heterosexual missionary porn when you masterbate.
Women have sex drives just like men, and they also like emotional connections just like men. Some are more focused on love and some are more focused on lust. Find a partner that suits you
Utterly degenerate.
>>29611943
>>29612727
tfw Fetlife is a even bigger piece of shit where you live.
There are only two actives girls and both are ugly, not even plain, just ugly. But are crazy as fuck, one tried to doxxme
>>29615548
You aren't a woman. You have zero femininity. Remember that.
>>29611337
Underrated post
Original content, damn it
>>29615704
I'm a virgin and I don't masterbate.
I'm someone who's mainly driven by notions of love, so I decided that sex stuff is not for me.
But I'm open minded enough not to judge others who have made different choices than me. I wouldn't want a degenerate boy as a partner, but I wouldn't judge him.
If you're judging women who have no relation on you to the point where it upsets you then you have a control issue.
>>29609024
jesus kill yourself
Where can I find pedo women?
I met one on /r9k/ around 2009 and she was really cute and funny, but she ghosted me after a few months.
>>29611063
>Men are addicted, grovelling, broken hulls instead of people
>Porn has killed monogamy.
Is an excerpt of a dystopian scifi novel or something?
>>29615739
There is no right "not to be judged". If you are doing things that contribute to the harm of my group, then I will call those things out as the dysfunctional, messed up things they are.
>>29609107
this.
and also the mainstream obsession with "sex is boring if you don't add kinks toys fetishes..."
>>29615810
it's the reality, mr. Faglord
>>29611063
>d e g e n e r a t e e
>>29615919
That is fine.
But then in turn, the majority of people who reject your view will then judge and isolate you.
If that original judgement and added feeling of rejection combines in to anger and disgust, then you have a personal issue.
It's something that will prevent YOU from finding YOUR happiness. To be honest most people don't really care if you judge them or whatever, but if you're unnecessarily hostile people will avoid you
>>29615548
>Or do you like up heterosexual missionary porn when you masterbate.
Kek
I do this
>watching amateur homemade porn
>couple is very intimate and loving throughout the video, occasionally joking with each other and laughing together
>at the end of the video he accidentally cums on her eye, she laughs, calls him a bastard, kisses him on the mouth and whispers 'i love you'
>at this point I don't even want to fap, just feel empty inside
what a time to be alive
>>29615919
In what way does women being sexual harm men?
Is it harmful to be degenerate sexually?
Because if so then men have been harming women for thousands of years, and that's not ok either
>>29615508
you wouldn't know you were into it 20 years ago
how the fucj would you find out you're into vore aside from a weird boner during a movie that you would mentally chalk up as one of those random boners
>>29609024
you can be interested in both.
i'm a virgin but ideally i'd have both (slightly) kinky sex and emotional intimacy. being a slut for one guy who i love in a monogamous relationship is basically my dream. maybe that's because i have no real life experience and have become a little brainwashed by porn but who knows, i've always been sexual. i just need to be able to trust and love him before i give it up.
hopefully i'll get there one day but i need to find a guy who i actually want to be with and who actually wants to be with me. until then, i'd much rather be alone. having dirty thoughts isn't mutually exclusive with wanting love.
>>29611063
i don't think porn is the problem, really. i think it's media as a whole that devalues love, honesty and commitment and overly emphasizes sex (fuckfuckfuck), money(buybuybuy) and other material aspects of life. everyone is always looking for the next "better thing" and that can mean iphones or sexual partners. society is training us to have less empathy and less emotional investment in anything if we want to fit in. people want highs instead of genuinely worthwhile or interesting experiences. extreme pornography is probably just a symptom of the warped ideals that were already being propagated to sell shit to people.
>>29616352
>modern studies show over and over women who have multiple partners make shitty wives
>doesn't happen to men though
You don't let children play with forks and outlets do you?
>>29611063
>men are the problem
>women refuse to marry, only have kids out of wedlock, have earlier sex and more partners, prefer abusive men, and then enact policies that benefit women at the expense of poor and ugly men
Women have to be watching porn like 24/7, it's the only explanation
