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>Hurr durr it's my parent's fault I'm like this

unless your parents were ACTUALLY abusive(i.e alcoholics, drug addicts, hitting you, sexually abusing you etc) you have NO excuse to blame it on them.

Everyone has their shortcomings, you should forgive your parents for theirs and take some responsibility in your life.
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except it is, at least partially. alcoholism is genetic, and it runs in my dad's side of the family
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>>29603716
a lot of people's parents are lazy and useless as well, which could be the root of their problems
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I mean I blame my parents somewhat but I'd rather not spend the rest of their lives making them miserable. I've been told I was a (horrible) mistake, so it was all on the table.
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Most parents in the united states circumcise their kids and proceed to hit them and ignore them in favor of their 60hr work weeks
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>>29603716
Single mommy child here, so I get a free pass. Go check the statistics and research then go suck yourself, just worlder.
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Let me guess, you were abused?
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My dad trafficked and distributed child pornography. He wrote stories where he fucked me. The police made me look at a censored picture of him sucking a cock when he was caught even though I asked them not to show me the pictures.
Cops are dicks
My dad had a lot of dicks
Coincidence?
But seriously, he was a great dad and only abusive in the sense that he was a manipulative prick who liked to fap to underage girls.
I totally blame him and those pictures the cops showed me for me being a relentless fuck up.
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You can't just pretend genetics don't exist
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>>29603747
This. Fucking barbarians. Raising sociopaths for the empire.
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Who's fault is it for my shitty genes?
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You forgot to mention single mother

There is no greater JUST a boy can experience than hearing his mom get railed by some chad who she met at a bar earlier that night
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Neglect, abuse, broken family, psychopath mother, bipolar father
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>>29603716
>alcoholics, drug addicts, hitting you
Tripple check, what do I win?
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>>29603716
My single dad never once instilled any sort of discipline in me, no sense of responsibility or life skills. He's not completely to blame for me turning out to be a loser but definitely partly
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My mom would have episodes and start screaming and shouting when something went wrong, never knew what would set her off. Computer crashing, something falling over, her stubbing her toe. Anything could set off her temper. Usually I could sneak out before she thought to turn on me, though. Does that count?
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>>29603815
>empire
I wish we had our shit together that much. It's just a zoo with burgers.
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>>29603716
My parents did hit me, though (my mom only once). Does that mean I have an excuse?
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>>29603906
Emotional abuse. I'm 22 and moved away from my mom who's just like this, also an alcoholic and mentally ill
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Parents moved us into the country (when I was 3) as undocumented immigrants instead of properly applying for naturalization & all that green card shit.
I grew up here in the US, speak perfect English, tried my very best in school (4.2 GPA) and yet I am not allowed to vote or receive any benefits from the government (pell grants, unemployment, etc.)
Dad left me when I was 4, so yeah, single mother shit
Despite having great genetics and being complemented all the time on my looks, I still have a fucked personality and have legal issues
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>>29603716
Yeah, but if you did have a shitty childhood it really does scientifically buttfuck you.

Not saying whining about it is a solution but it is a real problem that causes real problems.
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>>29603782

I'm a single child as well. And NEET.

Drugs here I come!!
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>>29603716
There were all of those things actually, but they kinda fucked up and made stupid life choices because they were young. I don't blame them for me. I'm an adult now.
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My parents hit me when I misbehaved, and I don't blame them for it. I'm now in medical school, and I have and above-average looking girlfriend. I love my parents. I don't think "hitting" should be counted as one of the abuses, unless it's just senseless hitting for the hell of it.
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>>29604080
I mean, they meant well, but they were in over their head having kids at their age and income, and their vices have always been problems for them.

Despite these failings, I love them.
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i do forgive my parents

but i won't tell my kids its all fine and dandy and give them advice that apply's to modern times
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>>29603946

I'm 22 also, but still live at home. We all moved when I was in my late teens, when my mom started meds and became an almost different person.
It's really weird, like shape shifting aliens took their form and replaced them. And like my life growing up was just someone else whose memories I have for some reason.
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>>29604094
>unless it's just senseless hitting for the hell of it.
Yeah, a lot of people don't understand the difference and assume if your parents spanked your ass if you were bad, they just beat you for the fuck of it.

I got spanks here and there, but nothing savage and, on reflection, nothing I didn't earn.
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>decided to have children even though alcoholism, depression, and diabetes runs in the family
yeah totally not their fault
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My siblings turned into ultra-super-successful normies.

But that's because they didn't give a shit about what was going on at home and just focused on themselves, where as I would always be thinking of my parents.
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>>29603716
D-does pot count as a drug?
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>>29603716
>dad was abusive
>witness hitting mom multiple times
>yelling screaming chucking glass
>witness dad cheat on mom
>witness mom cheat on dad
>witness dad abuse substances and mom send nudes to bf
>neither one ever apologized
>they divorce each other
>gotmefuckedup.jpeg
>made me a robot
>got bullied hard
>bullied to the point of 180 back into a normie, because learning how not to get bullied
>star smoking weed and jacking
>180 back into robot because depression
>stopped doing things that depleted up all my happy points
>90 into an android with autistic robot hobbies but normie views
>go see dad after 5 years
>mfw he's fucking rich
>his job's location is booming with revenue from lack of competition in area
>doesn't think I'm autistic anymore because of all the years of bullying
>I make him laugh
>he showers me with money, and buys back my affection
>he fucks prostitutes on the weekend
>got one pregnant and I have an adorable little brother
>mom gets jealous and treats me better at home
>gets a boyfriend
>I'd get a shit ton of stuff on birthday and Christmas
>people treat me better because of new fancy material objects and clothes and social skills
>mfw I have so much money and things for no reason
>mfw I'll probably never trust anyone
>mfw abuse was probably the best thing that could've happened to me
The feels never end
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I can guarantee I'm like this because my dad abused me. Upbringing and environment is HUGE. Don't ever believe different.


- Mentally ILL NEET for 7 years
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>>29604094
Medical school and this is your opinion? That's really ignorant. Everyone has their own personal experiences with physical abuse. You can't comment on frequency, severity, and whether their reasoning was 'justified' (it's never justified, all hitting of children is senseless.) Just because you managed to forgive your parents or felt you deserved it and are doing okay now, doesn't mean everybody was as lucky or as "strong" as you like your ignorant opinion implies.
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My parents died when I was young enough that they're perfect in my memory, and the way their friends spoke of them always reinforced that. My godfather sexually abused me, though. For almost a third of my life, if I do the math.
He told me he'd try my brother instead if I didn't do what he wanted. But he only threatened twice and I didn't only do what he told me to, I started shit on a fairly regular basis. Never went to an adult. I take responsibility for my part in it, but I'll never forgive him.
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>>29604007
>mothers being abused is bad for the kids
>father's being abused? lol kids will be fine, and if he leaves because of it she gets custody
feminism, everyone
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>>29603716
what about verbal abuse
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>>29604372
That's actually even worse than physical or sexual abuse according to the ACE study.
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>>29604401

Jesus Christ. I was verbally abused by the whole god damn school for almost 5 years.

It really must fucked me up.
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>>29604183
Sounds alright desu, all I want is enough money so I don't need to give a fuck what anyone thinks anymore if I don't want to.
Also I don't want to work.
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>both parents were abusive
>dad would get physical with everyone and try to sexually abuse me and my brother
>Never got past backrubs with me no idea about my brother though
>mother was verbally and emotionally abusive and had crazy mood swings
>I end up extremely sick in highschool with some hereditary stuff and a rare parasite
>Neither parents families have histories of those problems
>Been living in constant pain since I was 15 and getting too stressed can lead to my stomach ripping itself from my esophagus
>Dad stays abusive but mom starts to just get distant
>Get extremely suicidal in college and get kicked out after failing out
>Got a gf that I moved in with to avoid being completely homeless
>Dad hunts me down to try to drag me back home
>Go to cops and they tell me and my gf that we were being crazy and that couldn't happen
>few years pass and now I just have a hard time connecting with people and suffer from random moments of crippling pain and depression
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>>29603716
They ruined my dick and is a second degree burn mess and can't have sex. My parents can go to hell.
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>>29604130
I agree. To be fair though, my dad did some pretty savage hitting. I never got "spanked" like most American kids do. I'm the only child of Eastern European immigrants. It was always an open-handed slap in the face for me. Sometimes multiple if I really fucked up. Sometimes a kick if I was running away. One time dad pulled me up by my ears. This was all considered very normal for kids in my culture though. I resented it a lot as a kid, but looking back on it, I needed the discipline because I was a little shithead a lot of the time. Like I said, I'm very well-adjusted now, and I don't blame my parents for any of my deficits. I am to blame for all of my shortcomings. My parents did the absolute best they could in my opinion.

>>29604283

Look. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't just discount mine like it's pure ignorance. For your information, corporal punishment aka physical punishment is legal in all 50 states in the form of spanking or an open-handed slap...in some states , it's even still legal to beat your kid with a switch. Don't just make it seem like your progressive ideology is automatically right. This is an issue debated in Child Development curricula in universities all across the world. It's much more complicated than you think. Corporal punishment isn't purely barbaric. It's an age-old, tried and true disciplining method that I think has some merit...Indeed, I will stand by my opinion that it's OK to hit your kid as long as you don't use excessive force AND if it's directly in response to serious disrespect/misbehavior. It's not abuse when you do it for no good reason.
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>>29603716
My parents thought the world was satanic and evil, so they kept me at home for 90% of my early life along with a regimine of beatings, verbal and mental abuse, more beatings, lots of bible reading and more beatings. Also made me wear a fucking diaper and suck on a bottle of milk because I cried too hard while they were beating me.

They had stakes with bible verses written all over the annointed in holy oil pounded into the four corners of our property, and would lock me in my room for hours and hours to read the bible as punishment often if they grew tired of beating me. Most forms of popular entertainement was banned, and they would often throw away/deface my toys and whim because they were suddenly satanic. Once my mum had a dream about hot rod flames being hell's flames, so we had to ruin all our hot wheels cars with flame designs on them with a permanent marker, a whole bunch of other random shit on my model tanks and airplanes.


Worst part is that they're no longer like that but they somehow fucking think they were great normal parents and take credit for everything I do.

Mom and Dad, I love you guys but also FUCK YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT.
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>>29604007
Who /neglect/ here
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>>29604675
CORRECTION: That lasthma sentence should read:

>It's ONLY abuse when you do it for no good reason.
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>>29604727
Should be "last" not lasthma....

FUCK AUTOCORRECT
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>>29603716
They were literally all of those things. I ran away when I was 16, dropped out, bummed my way to a different state, worked at McDonald's and saved for my own place. 24 and still working at McDonald's, I'm an assistant manager now and have a ged. KHV and scrawny and weak, chainsmoke, smoke weed, sniff coke and drink heavily. No friends, obviously no family, no real education and no choice but to wagecuck. M big goal in life is being GM of a fucking McDonald's, when I used to dream of being a veterinarian. I do nothing but get trashed and shitpost and sit for hours with my .38 in my mouth before I pussy out and occasionally actually play russian roulette just for that sickening rush when you pull the trigger and just get a click. I hate it so much when you normies just can't understand that some of us are just fucked and you make threads like these that remremind me of how incomprehensibly fucked my life is.
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>>29604712

Me. I didn't even know what love, emotions or hugs are. Literally. Still don't understand it today but I get the concept.

All my mother did was literally just make food. Ritualistically. Automatically. Inhumanely. Nothing else. We didn't talk.

This really fucks with your brain, especially when you witness normal people in school.

I still have trouble affirming my own existence. A part of me still believes that I'm invisible and don't exist.
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>>29604806

The scariest part is that she probably dead inside long ago too and the only thing keeping her alive is, to provide for me.

This shit is scarier than any horror film. You can't become independent or grow up because you know it would crush your mom, but being dependent on her and not having any freedom and dying emotionally, crushes you from the inside.

Those who know true neglect aren't afraid of hell. They already witnessed it. The hell when your beloved person changed and is barely recognizable as a human.

Something which other people only discover in their 50s or so and are shocked I had to discover in my childhood. Don't know if I should be grateful or not for that.
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>>29604870

FYI: I'm a single child of a single mom.

Life can't throw any horror at me which I didn't experience.
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>>29604791
have you ever recorded yourself playing russian roullette? I'd love to watch that shit t b h
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>>29603716
My dad worked 12 hours a night to support us and I was stuck at home with mom

Mom had threatened to take a baseball bat to my head in my sleep if I stepped out of line by elementary school

My earliest memories are forcing myself to stay awake in case this was the night she snapped and killed one of us

Now she wonders why I'm a robot and laments the fact that she'll never get grandkids.
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>>29604806
>All my mother did was literally just make food. Ritualistically. Automatically. Inhumanely. Nothing else. We didn't talk.

I as well. Other than that, she would either sit in the basement, smoke weed and watch TV, or prowl around the house, bitching passive aggressively about how much she hates being here, how disgusting the house his, how much she regrets all her decisions, etc.
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>>29604791
how can you buy coke and not have any friends? do they just sell it outside of mcdonalds?
also, GM of a fucking McDonald's, sounds like a good goal. what the fuck do you think everyone else does? is this why you dont have friends?
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>>29603716
>you have NO excuse

Why do normies say shit like this like it makes any difference? I am who I am whether I have an excuse for it or not, it won't change the way I am or suddenly give me less anxiety/depression and more willpower and positivity

So I'm depressed and fucked up because I'm a bad person, it's all my fault. Doesn't change anything.
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>>29604959
>how can you buy coke and not have any friends?
Yeah it's reaaaal hard to find drugs in Tampa. Yu can literally walk down the street in Ybor and some black guy will offer some kind of drug.
It's as simple as just asking where you can find that white girl. Not to mention there's this thing called the internet, I get acid online. I never asked for my dad to fuck me, his son. I not actually a virgin even though I never had a girlfriend or anyone who loved me ever. Bt you're going to tell me to man up or whatever because your mother never locked you in a dog crate and threw you in the pool for varying lengths of time. Or tell me I'm lying. Or try to make me out to be the bad guy somehow to justify all of this. Sufering iis a wholly foreign concept to normies.
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my parents were losers who were in no position to raise a child. but i can't blame anyone for making stupid decisions, i mean they were low grade people who did the best they could i guess.

that said would it have been so much to ask for some guidance? i think many of my fuckups in life could've been avoided by having parents who took a bit more interest and bothered to explain some basic life stuff. how can you invest the time and money to raise a human being for 18 years but never really bother to have any serious life conversations with them? they have to get at least a bit of blame for that
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