Why is there this idea in western society that men are not allowed to have feelings?
I see it EVERYWHERE, on /r9k/ too. Shills will come on here and insist that despite being harmed in the past, I (and robots) do not have the right to be affected by it.
Says who? The shills? Why are women allowed to invent ways they are "oppressed", and everyone says "YOU GO GIRL!", yet men are not even allowed to mention how they are still affected because so many people have harmed us?
Men have a lot of advantages in this world but the sympathy of the public is not one of them.
>>29589926
What advantages? David Rockefeller does not represent ordinary men. Western society is exempt from these "patriarchal" advantages feminists insist we still have, but that other countries still do.
>>29589704
becasue feelings are weak and lead to bad decisions and serve no good purpose. women base everything off feelings, and look how they are? you really want a world run by that? shut up and be a man already.
>>29589996
But women have feminism and chivalry working in their favor, so it offsets any "disadvantages" their biology gives them. I don't show emotion, I just find it amazing how women are so spoiled yet they have the audacity to complain about "double standards" and how rough THEY have it. They have no clue.
>>29589988
>You age better
>earn more
>can earn reasonable money with literally no skill through manual labor
>better able to defend yourself
>no PMS
>not tied down by babies you accidentally make
>it's considered a positive thing when you do your best and don't take any shit
>the lock and key
Stacys undoubtedly have it better don't get me wrong.
Also the average woman will have an easier time than an average male if both are passive in life, like no hard working woman is going to marry you and save you from being a kinda dump waitress all of your life, but if a guy applies himself he will quickly surpass any benefits a woman has by sheer virtue of being a woman.
>>29590213
>You age better
Not always, and even if so, that's not my fault or men's in general, so why do we get hate for it?
>earn more
Citation needed, preferably not one from feminist blog that mentions the lie of how women are paid 77 cents on the dollar to men, even though that is ILLEGAL.
>can earn reasonable money with literally no skill through manual labor
Women can work labor jobs too, and I always noticed how men were expected to do their jobs for them.
>better able to defend yourself
Also more likely to be attacked by other men, especially groups of men, and it's not my fault if biology made me stronger.
>no PMS
Biology, not my fault.
>not tied down by babies you accidentally make
Have you ever heard of "child support" and "family courts"?
>it's considered a positive thing when you do your best and don't take any shit
No it isn't. We still get hate for standing up for ourselves, and you are repeating the feminist meme that "HURR SOCIETY DOESN'T LIKE STRONG WOMEN".
>the lock and key
You mean a manosphere meme that people don't mention in real life?
Your entire argument sounds mentally ill and I'm seeing more of it on the Internet lately - that males deserve all the angst towards us, because biology rewarded us as the superior gender, therefore we should feel sorry for poor women and take all the heat.
>>29589704
Most men really don't have feelings, most men are really that shallow and dumb. We live in a world where the stupid can prosper so they do, and now that's seen as the norm.
The Time of the Gentleman is gone but people are still going through the motions, paying for dinners, manning up, etc. etc. It's like we haven't had enough time to build a new culture yet.
Really, the 21st Century Man is Us. We who said fuck you to society because we know what happiness is, it's video games and porn and sci fi and fantasy. The whole world knows it, they steal our stories for movies and art for album covers. They steal our meme's and our jokes and technology, we are the Real Men not those pampered twinks who pop collars and wear cologne.
I've become recently enlightened through some /pol/ and /r9k/ threads, everyone i've talked to agree's with me including women. I think women know all this feminism is bullshit because it applies to an era before dating apps and internet. We know people are not born equal, equality is a myth and a dream. But we can expect more out of everyone and grow, and that's what we do.
Society is broken, knows it's broken, is fixing itself, and all because they're following us Real Men. They're actually Manning Up by becoming like us. Imagine that.
>>29590051
everything men has done, for the most part, was for women. men are fools, and women understand this. sure, we are better, but where also fools for women. men could easily stop anything women do in this world if we just all gave up on pussy and just had robots who could be impregnanted. think about it, men are just weak to their hormones. women are just so fucking lucky. that's all.
>>29590325
This seems like a satirical post. As for "men like us", I know what you mean by that, and no, we are despises. EVERYONE hates us, especially 4chan and /pol/.
>>29590354
>everything men has done, for the most part, was for women. men are fools, and women understand this. sure, we are better, but where also fools for women
Yes.
>men could easily stop anything women do in this world if we just all gave up on pussy and just had robots who could be impregnanted. think about it, men are just weak to their hormones. women are just so fucking lucky. that's all.
Yes, but women, especially women in western society, have NEVER had it more easy than they do now. Ever. In the history of the world. Do you think women, western society, and little dudebro males are going to ever let women lose any power? It won't happen, man.
>>29590354
The ironic thing is, once you give up on pussy and just focus on your own happiness women will throw themselves at you.
They want to know the secret, the secret is saying fuck off and do you.
Newsflash:
Outside of r9k, in the real world, people look down on you if you're emotional, sad, and sensitive.
I can't keep a person longer than a few days because my emotions get the best of me.
The patriarchy is WHY emotional men are seen as bottom feeders. "You're not tuff, go die and be an omega, away from the pack you sad piece of shit."
Fuck my life.
Man up or you're gay, or something like that
>>29590314
I think you are missing the point, you don't "get hate" and advantages are not "your fault" they are just double standards that benefit you.
>>29590410
Yeah they despise you because most of you are ugly. That's literally it, you got a weird voice, face, acne, etc
It's wrong, it's like picking on someone for being blind, but testosterone's a fucker and how we got to where we are today so men will compete and women will emulate what they are attracted to.
I'm one of those robots who has cystic acne that anti anxiety meds recently cured. My face was always covered in two inch sores that bleed a lot cuz I'd cut them out myself.
Now that I'm average looking and had given up on life to do me, literally swearing off dating (I'll still fuck if I get the chance, who wouldn't) people like me now.
It's probably the meds to be honest, another thing I encourage.
I read something here awhile go to help me, I pretend that I already killed myself and I'm just living out scenarios that could have been if I hadn't.
>>29590485
No, I replied to everything you said and refuted it. I do get hate for my "advantages", so do other men, and it's mentally ill for western society to sperg out about how men oppress women because we are stronger and don't get periods.
You are in no position to tell me how I don't get hate or how easy I have it, now go suck on Chad's cock.
>>29590524
I was specifically talking about how the Internet hates "real men" like that other guy said we were. He says they like us and want to follow us, I corrected him and pointed out how we are despised.
I'm not ugly, even though I know you won't believe that. This is a topic on gender and society, looks are only one factor.
>>29590641
Well that was me so I was responding.
You are right that they despise us, you, though. But then why do they emulate you years down the road when it's safe?
I read an article today on how AI can now beat our best fighter pilots, and how these drones will eventually take the brunt of conflicts while we have an aircraft-command center coordinating and controling the AI's strategy's.
That's basically Starcraft dude, our video games will shape this world and our obsession with technology and graphics advances the whole of society.
They hate us but they secretly go home and slowly become just like us. They're turning their children into us. And when they're old and divorced and tired they become us. My Dad was the biggest Chad in the world but at 70 he just likes to watch and play what I do. More poker than Vidya but that's his generations vidya.
I know plenty of people that don't act like us, but I don't really acknowledge them because they're uninteresting. I mean the sheer love I had for the last game of thrones is more passionate than anything I've heard a normie say. I joked that you'll never love a woman like the ending of season 6, but it's true.
I see less normies every day, I see more robots coming out of the woodwork every day.
>>29590847
That's on par with how the fedora meme destroyed atheism. People will try to realize themselves and form grassroots communities, bitter western society will tear it down. That's how it works.
there are books written about this, but i always lose interest.
something about how mothers and women are 2 different entities. mothers guide their sons into a hypocrisy based on falsehoods, guidance that doesn't suit them outside in the real world up against women who aren't their mothers.
>women want you to have emotions
>but your mother wants to make you emotionally stoic for protection
and so on and so forth.
>>29589704
its just societal norms and values. double standards exist for both sexes.
men can say they prefer huge tits, fat asses, wide hips, and on one bats an eye but god forbid i say i want a man with a big dick
>>29591772
Every god damn time someone points out a problem in a certain side some fucktard HAS to say
>Yeah but both x and y have problems!
It contributes absolutely nothing and just shows that your being defensive for the side at question
>>29591841
the fact that i gave the most valuable contribution on this thread?
life's not fair. people are treated differently at the moment of their birth, its not gonna change in our lifetime so either quit giving a fuck about what others think or keep making useless comments complaining about how tough your life is
>>29591955
People like to discuss shit you mongloid. Fuck do you expect, everyone to sit still and not say a word because nothing matters? We get pleasure from talking and hell even arguing, whether your nihilism shit believes so or not.
>>29591980
you're right
and thats all you'll ever do. discuss things.
sitting still and not saying a word is the equivalent of discussion without action or intent of action.
you think societal attitudes change after discussion?
you probably think you'll lose your virginity if you have enough "discussion"
>>29591955
Learn how to to type. I didn't even read your post but I know you are wrong and fucking retarded.
>>29592065
Sitting still and not saying a word isn't the equivalent of talking because it affects the person themselves mentally.
You may have autism if you dont understand the concept of venting and reaffirmation of opinions.
>>29592065
I guess you're right, we need some action, I'll go shoot up a feminist conference
>>29592087
yea you did, you're just realized im right.
>>29592109
"good job on venting and reaffirming your opinions anon!" how did that improve your condition again? its not until you act on that opinion does something actually happen
>>29592132
lol
>>29589704
Oh, that's because men don't say "YOU GO DUDE" when that kind of discussion comes up.
The wool over your eyes is the idea that it's "shills" who come on here and tell you not to have feelings/complaints. They're not evil outside agents, they're men just like you, and the culture of keeping feelings suppressed and bottled up is one that is enforced on men by men. If every woman on the planet died tomorrow nothing would change on that score.
>>29592232
Yep, autism at full force. People aren't machines that aim to improve their condition and dont constantly 24/7 require action to keep themselves content. This machine = human like mindset is the first step you need to get over in order to defeat your autism
>>29591772
>men can say they prefer huge tits, fat asses, wide hips, and on one bats an eye but god forbid i say i want a man with a big dick
OP here. But WHO gets mad at you for saying you want a man with a big dick? Google seems to organize results in favor of feminist blogs and pro-slut, anti-male opinions. I've noticed this for months now and it enrages me. Not to mention you have a large portion of the Internet on your side.
Tell me exactly who gives you a hard time for saying you want a man with a big dick, and don't lie.
>>29592261
The truth is that the "emotional man" archetype is pushed by modern society until a man who is indisputably above it arrives; and he will always arrive, and he will always outline the lie of the narrative just by existing.
>>29592261
Of course men give each other a hard time. I never denied that. We also tell each other not to show emotion, but so do women. Women don't want emotional soft men, and women have told me to "man up" for simply complaining about things a few times, and I wanted to punch them in the face (but I didn't).
Oh, and this is not me complaining about "tfw no gf". Absolutely not, it's about men expressing their feelings period. The Internet, western society and people all seem to think that men have it so easy, and women have it so hard, and their mental faculties stop at that point.
