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Hey I am INTP. I don't actually believe in MBTI but I've heard about cognitive functions and that might be more believable.
Can you tell me more about this ?
INFP reporting in.the TRUE alpha male
INTP with defunct and overactive feel centers here
Some tests type me as INFP because I am always on feels overload
I really don't believe in cognitive functions at all, I think the simplistic myers-briggs typings are actually more representative of reality than that jungian introverted intuition shit
>>29551261
how can INTP have overactive feel centers and type with a "T" ? teach me
>>29551261
>>29551280
If you're borderline INTP and male, then you're an INFP in denial.
Everyone desperately wants to type T and N, so you should probably shave 20 points off each for bias.
>Born INTP
>Acutely aware of the absurdity of a godless, uncaring universe
>Acutely aware of my own deep seated flaws the keep me from happiness
It was always too late for me I'm afraid.
>>29551223
supreme gentleman is not infp
>>29551261
>I really don't believe in cognitive functions at all
cancer
well this thread sucks
>>29551280
He's an in denial INFP.
If you are an INTP then you are wasting your time if you havent tried psilocybin yet
Got INTP on 16 personnalities, and ISTJ on simbionic. I wish those quizzes had a 'I do not care, I do not know, I just want to sleep' answer.
>>29551261
What Jung had to say about introverted intuition is fascinating. I don't think MBTI is necessarily worthless but it did fuck up Jung. Socionics is purportedly better but everything on it is in Russian.
>>29551326
Of course he is, have you at least read passages from his manifesto?
reeeeeee
But what will this get me in life? What will knowing what I am be able to get me?
When I was extremely depressed I would constantly type as INTJ.
For years I always got INTJ INTJ INTJ
But now that I'm better I type as INFP.
I had a prime chance with good genetics, my dad is ENTJ and is almost like the exact description. Successful as fuck.
My mom though is an ENFP
>INFP
>tfw living is suffering
Anybody have anything to say about experience INFPs? It's difficult to kinda see yourself sometimes, y'know.
Former ISTP turned INTP here
Is this even possible? I stopped using drugs and turned into an INTP after an years.
What gives?
>>29551376
>socionics pseudo science
REEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT CANCER
>>29551394
Absolutely nothing. It's another thing to jack off about and waste your life on like IQ until one day you wake up and realize you've done fuck all.
It can be useful in corporate settings and normies though because it's the new "credible astrology" and people might fuck off if you tell them you're just le introverted thinking perceiver.
>>29551413
just look up my twisted world the story of elliot rodger
>>29551371
Samefag.
What am I supposed to do?
>>29551431
>likes MBTI
>calls anything pseudo science
Okay bucko
Enneagram is actually the best.
>>29551366
>psilocybin
it's hard to find those kind of things in europe...
>>29551389
He's an intj you retarded projecting infp.
>>29551492
intjs are too unsignifiant to achieve anything and would rather cheer on what an infp does than do it themselves
INTP here. IS there any robot who is INTP and successful in life?
>>29551483
are you kidding me faggot? you can order magic truffles from netherlands to any european country without any risks
>>29551461
Posted the wrong image.
Enneagram is good but nothing beats mbti.
Socionics is holy shit you are a fucking retard pseudo scientist scientologist entp tier.
>>29551576
>my astrology better than your astrology
Kill yourself, 12 year old.
Reminder that is you have an E in your MBTI test, you are a normiE
INFJ here
Reading through : https://www.stellarmaze.com/infj-least-likely-to-be-who-you-think-they-are/ and so far it makes us look like massive waifufags, I guess there is some truth to that but most waifufags seem to be INTP.
How do other INFJ come to grips with the fact that we're the ultimate forever alone type ?
I dont see how you can be a robot intp. Being a robot is not fun. Voluntarily staying in this state is irrational. Most capable of thinking like an INTP should have no problems quitting this state.
>>29551592
>dem nihilism powers
>>29551592
>systems that actually work in reality are the same as systems that don't
>>29551261
Actually it makes sort of sense, presuming you're not mistyped.
See INTP's last function is Fe (extroverted feeling) so you have the emotional maturity of a child, and it's extroverted, this is why you would make a good match with an xNFJ because we share Ti+Fe so we compliment each other well in that regard.
>>29551668
Seriously do some research into MBTI. It was made by some twat who fucked up Jung so bad that she renounced it later.
Now it's a tool for corporate stooges.
>>29551683
Just read Jung.
>>29551668
you see i'm not conned by the jewish lies like all of these other goys. i use the least degenerate platform of all, mark zuckerberg's facebook
>>29551686
I was trying to think of a retort to everyone who quoted me but you're right on the money.
I have a lot of feelings but I'm very, very bad with them.
>>29551431
Question, is it possible to change yourself from an INFP to ENFP, also what's wrong with being a beta personality?
>>29551726
>>29551726
>conquered enemies
This is what anti-white shitlibs actually believe. Meanwhile, muslim and kike terrorists dindu nuffins and are america's greatest allies according to those same deluded shitlibs. Kys my good man
>>29551748
Yeah it applies to all types really, as an INxJ we are lacking in Se that's why so many are obsessed with sex and frustrated that we can't get it as easy as a Se dom/aux user.
>wasted years on this horseshit
>finally realized it was horseshit
>see other idiots sucked into the cult
>they won't realize it's horseshit until they slog through it
>i'm free
>mfw
>>29551799
Have you ever thought that maybe it wasn't for you in the first place?
>>29551796
>liberals
>backing Israel
liberals are on average far more likely to be critical of Israel than conservatives
>>29551846
Yeah bro you're an INTP just like Einstein!! kek
See you when you're a big success
Later my dude
here are the INTP cognitive functions
1) Ti (Introverted Thinking): your own personal logic system
2) Ne (Extroverted Intuition): related to seeing future possibilities
3) Si (Introverted Sensing): a subjective way of seeing the world through your senses, comfort, aesthetics of your environment
4) Fe (Extroverted Feeling): this function makes you not look like a retard in social situations, because it's the INTP's weakest function it makes them socially inept.
>>29551754
No not possible.
Beta implies weakness.
>>29551799
the entire thing is just assigning a label to complex behaviors
it's not like it denies that complex behaviors exist, it just loosely categorizes them
reading a wikipedia article on your type and the roleplaying as the exact description that said article presents is different from realizing that it's just another system out there that broadly differentiates one individual from another
same goes for most psychiacuck stuff desu
>>29551918
*and then roleplaying
>>29551799
>wasted years on this perfectly valid personality system
>discovered how it underpins the very nature of society and history
>see the massive influence it had on political philosophies
>realize what a retard you are for thinking it's horseshit
>>29551946
>perfectly valid personality system
>results aren't even reproducible year-to-year on the same person
Boy do I have some bad news for you
>>29551870
Ok, so you thought that if you were INTP you'd be as smart as Einstein, but later realized you were dumb as shit.
And I'm INFJ btw, just like Hitler
>>29551982
>he thinks mbti is rooted in the test results and not the cognitive functions
bruh I thought you were smart
>>29552009
>>29552024
You're just confirming my position, tarditos.
Hopefully you grow out of this crap before you waste too much time on it, or you'll be as pathetic as that MENSA janitor who's 45.
>>29551195
t. baiting istj or shit
>>29552024
This
The tests are way too contextual
You put an ESTJ in a room by himself for however many years, he'll be forced to rely on and exhibit characteristics of his "inferior functions", and if you administered a test he'd probably type as an INxP, because he is denied of subjects to judge, denied of others to interact with, and denied of sensory objects. There is nothing he CAN do but act like an INxP would.
Now if you stick him back out in public again, if he continues to behave as an INxP would, he might have been "reprogrammed" on some level, but I think the idea of MBTI rests on the assertion that there's some unalterable innate nature to a person, and that he would simply be an ESTJ who was forced to cope with extenuating circumstances.
And, of course, if he snapped right back to his old habits with time, you'd be left with an ESTJ who was forced to rely on cognitive functions he was not proficient with for a time and that's that.
>rationalists
rofl lmao
>>29551431
WHY DOESNT EVERYTHING FOLLOW MY IDEOLOGY!!?!?!?!!?1!?!1/!?1
>>29552096
>he wasted years on mbti
>he never even learned what functions are
holy shit what the fuck were you even doing
>grow out of this crap
>implying growing up is knowing less about how the world works
>MENSA janitor who's 45.
kek what do you think I am an INTJ?
>>29552177
I can tell you're underaged, so here is my advice:
Learn something useful instead of wasting it on this masturbatory bullshit.
>>29551592
What's wrong with astrology.
muh ideology?
>>29552193
>I got beaten on logic and common sense
>I will go with the act superior route
>>29552234
>he says as he posts the fedora
I just give up at this point. This is the kind of person who takes this MBTI shit seriously.
>>29552193
>useful
MUH IDEOLOGY LE SCIENCE XDd?DDDDDDDD
>>29552193
>predicting other's actions isn't useful
And we are the masturbators
Where do you find ENTP and ENTJ girls (workplace excluded)?
>>29552252
Just leave the thread tardo. You obviously have a problem with people interfering with your cynical grandpa routine.
>>29551686
>tfw no INFJ paladin bf
>>29552287
There is no reason to believe in it.
People in this thread get different results when they take a "test" at different times and places.
It's based on a flawed interpretation of another system.
Even its creator has distanced herself from it.
If you want a personality system that's "reputable", then just use the Big 5. Of course, no one likes the Big 5, because it intimates that maybe being a neurotic sperg isn't some kind of special snowflake advantage.
>>29552193
Jung's functions are there to help individuals develop and grow.
I think you belong in Reddit, friendo.
>>29552262
>entj girls
>implying
I'm INTP and I'm an accountant. Did I chose right?
>>29552348
Big five is disliked because it was created specifically to measure how complicit one would be when integrated into a workforce with others who are different from themselves
It's not a real personality test, it's a measure of how good you are at cooperating and nothing more.
>>29552348
Big 5 is horseshit. You answer questions like "do you like to work in teams", and in the end you get a score with the conclusion "you do/don't like to work in teams".
Yeah fucking great test, for retards that is. There's nothing to discuss.
The functions at least have some kind of deeper theory to them and EEG has shown it to be at least partially correct.
>>29552377
Then read Jung. At least he's a respected thinker. All this MBTI shit is slapdash folklore that randos put up on sites without any quality control.
>>29552382
I don't care if they're rare, I'd rather invest my time in finding something adequate that pays off in the future.
Also, I don't think that ENFPs are notorious clubbers.
>>29552348
>he doesn't know what I meant when I said mbti is rooted in the functions
you stupid nigger just because you tested something else on a test doesn't mean your personality changed
just because you answer on a test that you are a 10 foot black chad doesn't make it true in real life
big 5 sucks it was made as a politically correct version of personality therefore explaining nothing
>hUURRRDuRRRRrrRR I have high agreeable stats!
>>29552481
Wow, you're having an actual meltdown you actual 13 year old.
Grow out of this shit and learn an instrument or something.
>>29552302
Are you the same INFJ grill from the other day?
We're more like Druids imo.
>>29552522
Nah man, Druids are ISFJs.
We be more like Shamans.
>>29552497
>meltdown
>implying I'm not sipping a martini listening to bach while adjusting my monocle right now
When are you going to grow out of your cynical grandpa routine?
>the world is black and dark and doom and the kids don't understand racism anymore
>>29552522
No I'm the feelsy INTP anon who that guy was replying to
Druids are even better than paladins.
>>29552302
It's because there aren't.
Paladins are ENFJs
U wot
Originally muted
>>29552497
>learning about theories and playing an instrument is mutually exclusive
>>29552612
It pretty much is, but you won't realize that until it's too late.
Oh well, I tried.
>>29552302
hello there.
I see myself more as a metaphysician though..
>>29552623
>until it's too late
I already play the piano.
>>29552654
Cool. Now move the other foot out of the bullshit circus and focus entirely on the piano.
>>29552663
I enjoy having various hobbies and don't strive to be a professional pianist.
>>29552605
Not the self-flagellating ones who hold strong internal convictions and were forced into paladin-dom because of it
>>29552611
ISTJ and INTP are somewhat similar. Take this test:
http://keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
I expect you have a dominant (Si) function and so are ISTJ. INTP and ISTJ share (Si) and (Ne). Never begin from the E/I N/S P/J axis. Always start with the functions and then try to translate the functions into "MBTI".
>>29552580
Well to me religion is a Si thing, I'd put ISFJ as Priests and ESFJ as Paladins.
>>29552144
very well explained my INTP friend
>>29552443
They're not, ENFP's are the type of people who'll enjoy just about anything they do. Obviously that means some like clubbing, but others could just like playing minigolf if they had the chance.
>>29552734
See? I told you I'm INTP with heavy feels and not INFP
>>29552262
Am ENTPmale pretending to befemale. I don't leave the house that much. I'm a literal shut-in NEET, but if I had to guess based on my own experience of "going outside" then, I'd guess you'll find her if you look for that girl that people don't bother much with and who always looks bored out of her mind/uninterested in the conversation. She might not socialize much because she ends up not seeing a reason to do so... So, it's probably a matter of luck.
Try meeting girls online in mmorpgs or something.
>tfw INTP but not smart
Just fucking kill me alreadyplease
>>29552651
I'd let you play doctor with my soul so long as you have good intentions bby
>>29552757
I see. I was under the impression that ENTs were a bit more active and outgoing, each for different reasons obviously.
>>29551306
You posted this in the last thread too.
>>29552772
Well, you're definitely smarter than the average. All people of average intelligence consider themselves incredibly intelligent and amazing and just so FANTASTIC!!
So, you're probably way smarter than you're allowing yourself to anonymously admit.
>>29552757
>male pretending to be female
>letting 4chan antitranny dogma get to you this hard
It's okay it happened to me too
>>29551459
Try the celebritytypes test
Being INTP is suffering
It's like having Autism but you can't get welfare for it
>>29552772
What do you mean by not smart? Are you capable of learning and just lack knowledge or experience? Then you can become reasonably smart.
If you're more of a retard, then you're out of luck though. Haven't seen any retard read tons of books and become a genius so far.
>>29552808
Eeeegghhh... I am rather active and I can be rather outgoing, if the people around me aren't full of shit and won't stop discussing who got Joanna pregnant, and why Mary hasn't shown up for class in a week. ENTPs are the least "extroverted" of the extroverts. You could call it the "official" cyborg MBTI type.
>>29551431
>ISTP god tier
Yeah being just emotionless enough to crave stronger emotions and being absolutely jaded with everything is really cool
>>29552234
>logic
>common sense
Nice spooks.
>>29552890
It's a shitposting chart.
INTJ with ENFJ girlfriend here.
>>29552826
Nah, I can look at my history at school and in the real world and I'm fairly certain I'm below average.
I do agree though that most people think of themselves as significantly smarter than they actually are though.I'm have a posh accent though, so people assume I'm smart when they first meet me. Feels good man
>>29551875
Could you do that for ISTP? I have trouble understanding cognitive functions
>>29552827
It was a tactic to disorientate the REEEing enemy, a gaslight of sorts. Seems to have been rather successful so far.
>>29552932
you have a strong ability of introspection. you can't be stupid
>>29552867
I mean that when compared to other people, I never perform on their academic level. And neither am I one of those people that does poorly academically, but seems to be really smart non-academic situations.
I went to a state school, so it's not like I was surrounded by geniuses, but they were still smarter than me.
>>29552932
Meh, I disagree on your definition of smarts (you probably just expect yourself to be of godlike intelligence). YOU DO YOU though.
>>29552783
are you a grill?
originali
>>29552939
Iktfb
You have to pretend to concede to their demands so that they'll redirect their rabid hunger for something to devour
Just don't let it happen in reality. That would be a true tragedy.
>>29552851
I can never enjoy anything, I just think about whether or not I'm having a good time until it's over.
>>29553027
Of course not.But I wish I was
INTP here. I went to a concert to have a place where I could stand around stoned without being judged. When I was watching the show, a girl started rubbing up against me and glancing back at me. I stood there and tried to figure out what to do until she got bored and moved somewhere else. My tendency to overthink fucking kills me
>pic related, ENFP
What does this mean brobots? Can anyone help me out?
>>29553170
If I had to make it short:
>penguin of doom
>*holds up spork*
Here is the general cognitive functions info. Although it goes a lot deeper than this when you understand how they work in real life and how functions interact.
>>29552935
1) Ti (Introverted Thinking): makes you enjoy solving puzzles
2) Se (Extroverted Sensing): usually interpreted as the "extrovert degenerate normalfag" function, it more often translates into really enjoying audiovisual stimulation (a lot of vidya and anime, prefers flashy sensory overload GAINAX anime over something slow and wordy like Lain)
3) Ni (Introverted Intuition): makes you abstract from the physical world and see things as puzzles to solve because of dominant Ti (usually applied to real world things (aka engineering/design), but could unusually manifest as playing with overarching symbols in literature/arts if your Se bugged out and you're stuck in your room with anime, books and vidya for years
4) Fe (Extroverted Feeling): feels bad man
>>29552932
>Nah, I can look at my history at school and in the real world and I'm fairly certain I'm below average.
You may have a disability.
Normal people have a prefered way to learn thing (studies show their results decrease when using another way).
Smart people can learn no matter the way (though studies show they still have preferences, they're able to compensate).
People with disabilities learn better with ways which don't collide with their problem, wether they're smart or not.
ENxP reporting in
>>29551195
these threads are cancer kill yourselves.
>>29553110
are you an ENFP?
>>29553170
>Ellen Degeneres
KEK
>>29553170
It means get the fuck off this site
You can't help anyone here, we're all self-obsessed Ixxx types (mostly INTPs, INFPs, INTJs, and more rarely other types), you can't reach us with your good will and we will only corrupt you with our cynicism
>>29553333
That's surprisingly accurate and sounds familiar, thanks. Could you elaborate a bit on Ti?
>>29553457
Should I really go..?
You're right. I do like to try and help people here..
Is it not worth it..?
>>29553333
What's the difference between INTP and ISTP as this is the same function ? I know those ppl are very different but how can we explain that ?
Ti/Se/Ni/Fe is the same as Ti/Ne/Si/Fe
>>29553442
No. INTP
INFP here
how do I not suck/become successful
>>29553496
You can stay, but you don't have to try to help anyone desu.
>>29552935
sure thing. these are the ISTP cognitive functions
1) Ti (Introverted Thinking): your own personal logic system
2) Se (Extroverted Sensing): an objective way of seeing the world through your senses. tends to make ISTPs good at sports/ activities requiring hand-eye coordination, makes them very perceptive of the environment.
3) Ni (Introverted Intuition): foresight, being able to accurately determine what will happen in the future
4) Fe (Extroverted Feeling): helps smooth over social situations. and again, because this function is so weak for INTPs/ISTPs its basically useless.
>>29553533
Find something you enjoy and become good at it.
>>29553486
Hi, this is CIA.
You don't get to bring Types.
> Read pic
>>29553520
Ti/Se/Ni/Fe is different than Ti/Ne/Si/Fe. the functions are different, so the way they process information is different
>>29553524
sorry hun, I don't think we'd get along ;_;
>>29551875
can you explain it for INFP?
>>29553610
Probably not tbqh
I-It was worth a try ;_;
>always get INTP on these tests
>except I'm retarded
what does this mean? top kek @ me becoming a neurologist or mathematician
>>29552348
>high openness
>low conscientousness
>introverted
>agreeable
>high neuroticness
>MBTI: INFP
seems to make sense
>>29551195
INFP
And don't put too much stock in suggested jobs. It's really only useful for getting an idea of how different people see the world and make decisions.
It's not going to tell you if you'll be the first astronaut surgeon or a professional blowjob tester.
>>29553520
Se/Ni perceives the reality for what it is, very concretely and not in a subjective interpretative manner (like Ni/Se would). You could say it's heavily associated with the 5 senses and being in the moment.
Ne/Si is an expansive function, it takes objective data from the external world (not in your head) and looks for new possibilities and associations by putting every "object" into context of other things. It connects dots and scans operates in a more abstract manner.
>>29553695
What would be some practical examples of those two different function stacks "in action"?
>take different tests multiple times over span of years, get INTP every single time
>seem to fit into both INTP and ISTP stereotypes
>people think im ISTP
>looking at the functions it would seem that im either INTJ or ENTP
I honestly have no idea at this point.
>>29553688
>blowjob tester
Demand would heavily outweigh supply anyway, so you'd have to be an outstanding tester for one reason or another.
>>29551195
I think MBTI is a decent starting point which helps with reflection, but ultimately I believe people can not be put into categories of 16 types only. The functions mentioned however are very interesting and more believable, such as each one of us having certain functions more developed than others. It is highly generalized, but again, a good starting point.
What bothers me most with MBTI is how easy it is to form groups based on what type you get, and in my opinion it is only there too boost one's ego, instead of helping you understand others better and developing your weaker functions.
>>29551431
INTP master race
>>29552382
>tfw
>>29552851
>>29553047
wow fuck you guys describe me perfectly
>>29553640
You can be a stupid INTP.
>>29553640
>>29553771
Exactly. I will never understand why so many dipshits think type has anything to do with intelligence.
And it's just robots saying it.
Curious to see what MBTI type most robots are.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10597391
>>29553759
Also, this is another thing I really hate about the categorization of MBTI:
>>29551431
I know this is /r9k/ and most robots are all angsty and edgy, but do you really agree with that robots should hate on each other just because of some personality type that is not considered 'ideal' (according to some subjective group mentality)? I believe it should not be so.
>>29553759
> ultimately I believe people can not be put into categories of 16 types only
if you get down to it, you could sort people into 7 billion different types. every one of us is unique. but 16 is a happy medium that is easily understandable and applicable
>>29553840
It's MBTI's fault for giving stupid names to the functions like "Thinking", it leads people to see some of them as preferable to the other ("I'm a Thinker, like Einstein and Hermione!"), when really being INTP is akin to having a mild case of personnality disorder.
>>29553727
ISTP's take their knowledge obtained
empirically, to create some kind of philosophy, which they apply to everything on their lives. I've heard examples of rappers being ISTP's like Snoop Dogg because they value 'street' knowledge rather than 'college' knowledge. Another good example i've heard are monks.
INTP are more like, "i don't need to experience this subject to know how it works" and they use their thinking to create a lot of unexplored possibilities, everything only in theory field, and hardly accomplishing much in their lives. The most common estereotypes for them are scientists and philosophers.
>>29553914
einstein was autistic
>>29554012
>tfw INTP
nailed me to a fucking tee again. these tests are def legit. luckily im smart so i can convince teachers and professors to buy into my BS
>>29553914
>when really being INTP is akin to having a mild case of personnality disorder
You consider it a mild case of a personality disorder because they're rare and their thought process and values are different, but you probably want everyone to conform to the same bullshit and be a Borg drone.
If the world was full of NTs, it would be vice versa, yet still not accurate to think of other types' behavior as personality disorder.
>>29554012
but you sort of insinuate that INTPs aren't right and are just BSing. there are many things which cannot be "sensed" before they are intuitively hypothesized. ISTP says the world is flat, maybe a little curved if they live in a flat place. INTP is autistic to say "hmmm maybe we live on a ball"
>>29553759
16 types is actually pretty reasonable, nobody fits perfectly into their type but it is a good round about way to put things together.
>>29553898
>do you really agree with that robots should hate on each other just because of some personality type that is not considered 'ideal' (according to some subjective group mentality)? I believe it should not be so.
It's banter calm down.
>>29553727
an ISTP MOBA player's plan to git gud would be playing the game himself until he gets a subjective feeling of what's strong and works (Se), etc. and then coming up with different tactics/strategies to the different problems and situations himself, often on the fly (Ti/Ni)
an INTP's plan to git gud would be studying all sorts of other people's strategies and tactics through guides/forum posts/streams (Ne), and then sorting through what seems to work the best through statistics tools and his own analysis of the information he's gathered (Ti/Si)
>>29554061
yeah, maybe i'm bit biased beacuse i'm ESFP
>>29554102
the most fucked up type is probably INTJ, but luckily they're too autistic to realize it. INTJ's are basically INTPs who can't come up with anything themselves, just critique
>>29554086
I get the banter, but on a place like /r9k/ there are a lot of unstable robots that are easily affected negatively by this. You are right however, I am trying way to hard to seem reasonable in this thread, ending up looking like a try hard fool. Carry on.
>>29553727
I can't into Se or Ne at all, but I'll try.
Ne strives for novelty, i.e. new ways of doing things and looking at things from different angles. Doesn't matter if it's playing with lego, creating a recipe for pie or designing a new solution for an IT firm. An INTP would shit out many possibilities and alternative theories and dissect and analyze them with their Ti to (in)validate them.
It's also seems highly random to the outside observer and is always triggered by objects (concrete or a concept) as a starting point and expanding from there.
tree > paper > papyrus > egyptians > WE WUZ KINGS
Se just absorbs the here and now. Noticing details in a painting, becoming one with a tool and manipulating things with it. When you see a bottle, you'll see it as a 1 liter bottle etc. you will not be expanding and end up with a unicorn on wheels (Ne), and you will not think about how if humanity disappeared, it would still exist in thousands of years (Ni).
>>29554182
>Ne strives for novelty, i.e. new ways of doing things and looking at things from different angles.
wrong. that's prospecting behavior. NJ types aren't novel at all.
you're right about our thought processing seeming random to outside types, but thats mainly for NT types, sense NF types are all about muh fee fees anyways. NT types are highly logical, but also intuitive. so we can go from A -> C, while S types won't shut the fuck up about B. S types need to have their hand held and walked through everything step by step
>>29554102
I always get INTP and I do both of those. I like to try things out for myself so my mind doesn't get stuck on other people's solutions then I'll research what does and doesn't work.
>>29554218
>wrong. that's prospecting behavior. NJ types aren't novel at all.
NJ use Ni, NP use Ne.
>>29554238
what are you talking about bruh. we aren't speaking the same language here. NJ and NP have the same N quality, the difference is in the J or P
>>29554301
You critique was that NJ don't strive for novelty.
My entire post was about Ne , i.e. NPs, so I don't know why you'd even mention NJs or think what I said is wrong.
I only randomly mentioned Ni at the end, in a different context that has nothing to do with novelty.
>>29554301
N in broken down to two categories, silly-willy
>>29554345
why are you making things needlessly complicated. INTPs only have Ni and Ti have dominant traits, ie IN and NT
>>29554374
part of the beauty of MBTI is in its simplicity. there's no reason to make it more complicated than is necesary
>>29554386
Not sure if bait, but you should have a look at the stuff depicted in >>29553289.
ISTJ/ISTP here tell me things about my personality type please.
>>29554178
Well you were right it is subjective. Any kind of system that ranks people is idealist troll bait.
Fi people want to believe everybody is cut from the same cloth and they all seem to believe in world peace.
>>29554501
First figure out which one you are.
>>29554424
oookay yea you guys are just using retarded notation. Extraverted sensing should be ES, not Se.
>>29554424
trying to make this psychology shit look like the periodic table
>>29554521
I get both results sometimes.
>>29554418
But it is necessary for the exact reason that other anon explains it to you.
>Simplicity
It's only 4 letters for the memes and threads.
Pretty sure every letter has a subsection http://typelogic.com/fa.html
>tfw female ENTP
Just kill me already
>>29554637
there is a creepy neckbeard in this thread looking for you
he wants to know where you hang out and what you smell like
>>29554731
Not a neckbeard, was just looking for info, smell not included. I wouldn't mind if she shared though.
>>29554637
>female xNTx
>kill me
Refrain from posting anything about yourself ever again
>>29551431
>anything starting with E
>REEE LEAVE CHAD
>tfw ESTP
>tfw acutely aware of other people's bullshit
>tfw the only thing I enjoy in life is calling them out
>tfw total hermit with no desire to do anything otherwise
>>29552996
>>29552772
>>29552932
Fix your diet
Sleep more
Think differently - Explore the many types of ways a person can think and apply those to whatever you want
Youre definitely going to have to read a shit load, but itll be worth it
Fellow INTP here. Good luck.
>INTP with anxiety disorder
How do I stop the pain?
>>29555352
J-JUST BE YOURSELF BROOOOO
>>29555352
i feel you, brother
ornamens orchid
>INTJ is the most hated personality
Gee, i wonder why
>>29555454
they all stupid but they all think they are superior to everyone
how this ?
What type is moot? My guess would be ISFP.
>>29555454
Success breeds jealousy.
orig.
>>29555509
>being jealous of an autist with a bad personality (J)
kekeroni pizza
>>29554386
No, you've got it round the wrong way. The functions are what you should be looking at not the letters.
INTP = Ti Ne Si Fe
ISTP = Ti Se Ni Fe
>>29555454
No, it's the most mocked personality. ESTP is realistically the most hated type but in Norminium land INFP closely followed by INFJ are the most hated.
INTP here.
I know I'm supposed to be the socially inexperienced one, but from my world view being emotional and open when first meeting someone is very rude. I really wish people would be more reserved and stick to talking about their hobbies and interests instead of jumping straight into who they are as people. I'm just really not interested in a person's character that early on, and I don't understand why *I'm* the bad person for feeling that way.
>>29555763
> I don't understand why I'm the bad person for feeling that way.
Lol silly anon. It's because you're supposed to be able to able to empathize or mimic empathy with/for other humans right away
>>29555729
Fe types aren't hated in Norminium land. Their purpose in life consists pretty much of being accepted by their peers and keeping them happy.
>>29555828
Their Si contradicts our Ni so we show them Fe from a different perspective and they don't like it. This is why so many male INFJ hide in our Ti+Ni loop which basically makes them question everything, we repress our Fe and turn into a psychotic hermit with paranoia tendencies and everybody just see's us as crazy.
I'm not sure with INFPs.
>>29555562
>N is objectively supeior to S
>T is objectively superior to F
>J is objectively superior to P
The fuck are you talking about?
Alpha INTJs are literally the master race, there's no denying that
>>29555487
You don't understand the mind of an INTJ. Here is the INTJ's functions analyzed.
>>29551431
>ISTP
>God tier
Schizoids are not Gods on any list. Ever
>>29556016
>N is superior to S
>nature selected for S
>>29556050
why is S associate with PRIMITIVE BRUTE PRODUCTION ?
>>29556143
>%60 of women are SF
Why am I not surprised?
>>29556263
Are you the INFP who thinks their type is rational?
>>29556143
>raping and killing is bad
>nature selected for raping and killing
moralistic fallacy
some things might've given us an evolutionary advantge without actually making us smarter.
>>29556307
NT are rational.
>>29555816
>It's because you're supposed to be able to able to empathize or mimic empathy with/for other humans right away
That is extremely uncomfortable. Is it supposed to be uncomfortable? Why would I want to feel anything other than happiness when first talking to someone?
Example
>Nice to meet you, I'm Name. How are you, what have you been up to lately?
>*tell them about a book I just read, or a movie I just watched. Maybe my latest project or what I'm doing at work.*
>"Oh, wow. That's very cool. My dog died yesterday. He was eight. I just didn't see it coming. I loved him so much."
What the fuck? Why? Why would you infect me with your sadness? That isn't fair to do to people you don't know yet. It is a pretty common thing to just mention your latest tragedy to spark conversation. I just don't get why or how I'm supposed to deal with it without feeling VERY uncomfortable.
>>29551654
fuck this is long
reads like le special snowflake manifesto though
and i really hate that i like it
>>29556371
I find social rituals as retarded as you do, but your example is a bad one. Initially they usually try to break the ice by talking about trivial, non-sad stuff.
>>29556252
Well to an INTJ that is what it is. They scorn what they can't have. See this guy >>29556362. Extroverted sensing helps you navigate the real world and is associated with playing sports, parties, pragmatism, fighting, wanting experiences. Basically a chad function.
>>29556362
>be the smartest human being alive
>have no coordination
>be killed by a retard with a rock
>b-b-but muh intelligence quotient
>>29556507
>>be the smartest human being alive
>>have no coordination
>>be killed by a retard with a rock
>>b-b-but muh intelligence quotient
so the retards are the superior human beings?
>>29551754
it's not like a t-shirt you dumbass
>>29556507
>can be killed by a retard wielding a rock
>smart
>>29556598
normies > retard with a rock > INTJ
>>29556714
Evolution of humanity
>>29551280
The T doesnt mean that an INTP never feels, it means that the way that someone cognitively interprets reality is through thinking processes instead of understanding it through feeling like INFP's. An INTP can still be very emotional, especially with things like anxiety added on. The people saying he's not a real INTP are clearly INTP's themselves who dont want other people to be like them.
>>29552382
>tfw sexually submissive intj wifey with big titties
shit's too good senpai
>>29556016
Being extroverted and having good people skills is literally the most important factor in success, in almost every field. Introverts are autistic weirdos and E is objectively superior to I.
>>29556714
these people might be the best at surviving the hunger games, but they aran't the ones that'll take us to Mars.
You're retard with rock tier if you think everyone defines success exactly like you do or bases their self worth on success as you define it, introvert or extrovert.
>>29556016
ENTJ is the master race
INTJ is a close second
>the mbti is complete bullshit meme
>implying INTPs have anything in common with ESFJs
>>29556922
>all introverts are autists that are only introverts because they're sperglords who can't be extroverts
Wrong. Some people enjoy their time alone and simply like their introversion. It's a case of "not fitting in" it's just people who choose to be introverts. This kind of people can very well be succesfull if they're in a position of power. Such positions can be achieved through intelligence and hard work, charisma isn't always needed.
>Being extroverted and having good people skills is literally the most important factor in success
This is straight out wrong you dumb fuck
>>29557058
this
no one should base their life on their mbti but does very accurately describe different personality types.
theres a reason /r9k/ has such a high rate of intps and intjs even though they are pretty rare in general
>>29557058
They use the same functions :^)
>>29556956
They would come up with a realistic approach to going to mars. If it was just intuitives it would be all theory then fall apart in practice.
>>29557086
you don't seem to understand what introvert and extrovert means. It's not a choice one can make. It's hardwired into you. It's about how you percieve the world.
That doesn't mean that an introvert can't be outgoing, he can. But that won't change that he's an introvert.
>>29557178
You're right, but he's also right in that introverts enjoy and need their alone time just like extroverts need people around them.
>>29557144
ultimate bullshit
so you mean after all the hard stuff is figured out, chad can go into the capsule and say something cool while stepping out?
wow, he's the real genius then huh?
>>29557238
Someone has to mine and carry the materials (ESTP) while being rigidly supervised (ESTJ) and then shit has to be assembled (ISTP).
>>29557238
>he thinks sensors don't use intuition
Sensors like ISTPs can fuck around with theory too. They just use the theory for practical application so it comes out more effective than what an intuitive would come up with since it's based on real world experience.
>>29557410
Thanks for inventing the Cuisinart.
>>29557410
And that theory becomes a weapon that they cannot use because of adaption. I hate saying this, but "gg ez."
>>29556380
It's not, it's all in the comment section. I hoped for a decent read but it was over before I realized what had happened. Still there is some truth to it.
>>29557410
>he thinks intuitives can't sense
l can play this game too
>>29557539
Sense this dick in your mouth senpai
>>29557481
it's literally me desu
not sure how much of that judgement is projection but that's how i feel
>>29557574
Well my main objection is the idea that we thrive on drama, I hate drama but I guess it may appear that way as I can be rather defensive when people insult me.
>>29557539
nobody said they can't but you are the one implying only intuitives can build a spaceship
>>29557596
don't even remember reading that but yeah i don't feel it applies
i do self deprecation and take critics well but the rare time i flipped out was my sister being both insulting and of bad faith (imo)
>>29551554
Nope, all INTPs are fucked
>>29557631
well, my intial point was that just because something is in the norm and got evolutionarily selected (normies that can hunt) doesn't make it he best (people that change the world).
the whole thing got derailed by trolls tho
>>29557631
>>29557671
Doesn't matter anyway. Sensors are going to be replaced by AI soon, and intuitives shortly after.
>>29551554
>successful in life?
No. The only upside of INTP is that some of them can be happy with nearly nothing.
>>29552382
>Top types are F types.
Is this the issue with women?
>>29557690
this
that's why you gotta gain resources as fast as possible.
most people don't seem to think about that, but if you're not high middle clas to upper class in about 20 to 40 years, you'll be fucked for all eternity.
>>29552851
This
>JUST
>>29557690
>implying AI isn't going to replace all those intuitive code monkey jobs
your time is coming soon
>>29557735
you just got redpilled
