I believe that men are largely responsible for how worthless women are today.
1.) By prioritizing women's appearance it led to them focusing makeup and looking good over being an actual decent person and good wife.
2.) Instead of being happy with one average girl we slept with as many women as we could and made it into a good thing. This made women believe even more that sex and appearance are everything and contributed to a loss of values and skills.
3.) Because men favored fun and sex over stability and loyalty they allowed women to slut it up even if it mean ruining them in the future.
4.) Out if desperation to get the remaining decent women we put them on a pedastal which later on encompassed women who weren't even special.
5.) The most recent is rewarding women who don't deserve it. Countless former sluts or women with no skills or honestly are provided for by men just for their used up pussy. It's disgusting and it's basically giving women the green light to be useless whores because a decent guy will still take care if you afterwards.
Men are responsible for ruining women and now we have to undo the damage. The first step is to stop supporting whores. They need to know that if they are going to be slutting it up they will have to clean up their own mess.
Why do women change themselves and do things just for men?
>>29535172
Because men have always been leaders, and it's natural to try to appeal to the leader.
>>29535117
Women are the choosers. They're ultimately responsible for the whole situation. Also what's this "we" crap? The alphas have been doing most of this stuff. I ain't doing SHIT!
chads are responsible for this. of course they want women to dress like sluts, act like sluts, and basically be sluts, because it's an all you can eat buffet for chads. women love it because they want to be used and thrown out like trash, or rather, they've convinced themselves that they love being treated like that.
regular guys who don't want that shit get screwed out of this entire system. they either get stuck with some used up skank or they got lucky and have been in a long term relationship since they were 20
>>29535117
It's really technology that did it, I think... and leftist "you're killing mother gaia by procreating" death culture.
>>29535237
>>29535251
While alphas are mostly responsible I see many people here encouraging fucking hookers which further instills in women that they should sell themselves. Besides, chads aren't the ones providing for whores when they get older so don't try to shove all the blame on chads.
>>29535369
>many people here encouraging fucking hookers
Not many. It seems like most robots don't want to go through with it. Impersonal sex with someone that does not appreciate you has got to be pretty depressing.
>chads aren't the ones providing for whores when they get older
I think many betas are opting out of this.
But most of them will do that. What choices do they have really?
>>29535567
>What choices do they have really?
They could keep some of their dignity and never provide for a girl who doesn't deserve it.
>>29535601
It'll keep happening more. But probably not by that much.
I'd say that betas merely need to realize that those provider relationships are not going to be good relationships at all. Women never have, and never will respect them. They will never really be sexually attracted to them. It's all going to be shit. They just have to not get seduced so easily by them in their later years. Just have ordinary relationships with them; not marriage, not providing. The Internet is really helping everyone understand that it seems. No need to bring a "retaliation" element to it though, it's a bit silly.
>>29535117
I believe that you can suck my dick
>>29535715
That's all I'm saying, just don't give them what they don't deserve. It's fine to date them but just don't be their doormat.
>>29535808
Dunno if that's really going to happen though. Women get married much later, and there are more open marriages now. That could extend the alpha/beta dynamic much later than one would think. i.e. women will keep having the upper hand for so long that betas will yield eventually.
>>29535117
I mostly agree. It's clear when you consider this from a historical perspective. Women have been subjugated to a lesser role because of their clear, inherent inferiority, and on the basis of that they were denied the ability to self actualize and prove themselves which inevitably leads to a lack of ability and accomplishment. They then point to their lack of accomplishments and say "see, they really are inherently inferior", which perpetuates the hierarchical system in a comfortable self-sustaining way.
>>29535251
Sorry buddy. Regular guys are the biggest problem. They have no standards. They think fucking as many women as possible makes them in league with Chad.
So now low tier women are getting begged for sex.
If men stopped the whole "I FUCK BITCHES" meme on EVERY WOMAN then there wouldn't be a problem. You were supposed to find a potential wife in HS or college and lose your virginity to her and then marriage.
It was the high school slut that Chads fucked and those women were the ones that lead promiscuous lives.
But nah. Men keep ramping up female value solely on appearance. They outright say they don't care about her personality. They complain that women are boring and then turn around to say who gives a shit. Women used to have skills and etiquette. They weren't completely useless. Men found someone for the rest of their lives not a fucktoy.
Now all men want a fucktoy because they were fooled by not only their dick but by the minority of sinners who are vastly promiscuous. Another problem is porn. You heard me. PORN. The porn industry should have stuck to magazines, it Never should have escalated into videos of pure degeneracy.
People shouldn't even have sexual preferences or fetishes unless it was extremely rare or they had a fucked up past.
>>29535897
If a woman even suggests an open relationship the guy should tell her to fuck off on the spot. Betas need to fucking stop.
>>29535909
But at least before even if they were inferior they fulfilled their role. My grandmother lives in an old traditional marriage and still cooks, cleans, helps with grandkids, saved herself for my grandfather, and worked hard. Women now don't do shit.
>>29535117
WHY DID SOMEONE CRACK AN EGG ON HER HEAD
>>29536014
>But at least before even if they were inferior they fulfilled their role. My grandmother lives in an old traditional marriage and still cooks, cleans, helps with grandkids, saved herself for my grandfather, and worked hard. Women now don't do shit.
This
I'm a kissless virgin but fairly mature and well adjusted, yet I'm the one told to "b urself" and "man up" for cunts who won't even look twice at me. Fuck that.
>>29536010
This.
Finding a life partner is what's really important. People like to preach the importance of sexual compatibility but in reality acting out your fetishes is nothing compared to a wife you can actually depend on for more than sex.
>>29536010
>People shouldn't even have sexual preferences or fetishes unless it was extremely rare or they had a fucked up past
best statement in topic desu fampai
most "standards" or yesteryear, where created solely with what was around. girls couldnt score chad from 2 states away like they can now.
>>29535117
How is it my fault? I'm just here shitposting.
>>29536010
> They think fucking as many women as possible makes them in league with Chad.
This. They will not, acceptance is the first step.
Completely agree with this, one things leads to other and we're going in a full circle.
