How do ugly/fat guys keep getting 8/10 to 10/10 girlfriends? It's fucking surreal.
A friend recently got with a girl who is extremely out of his league and I can't even work out how it happened. He's fat, not tall, and I'm pretty sure he's not good looking in the face either but I can't really tell what women find attractive face wise anyway. It's not for money either, we're only 20. Meanwhile she has a cute face, good body, and a very friendly/personable personality.
How can people say women only go for Chad when this fucking guy gets someone like her? It's unfathomable.
>>29528977
Confidence and an attractive personality. 5/10 fatty here, shit works, I've been hanging out with some real qts lately.
alsob urself
>>29529042
Hey reddit, nice fiction. Kill yourself.
Money or they're a fun person to be around. Or both.
>>29529085
>implying that's so unbelievable
>>29528977
Sometimes personality is better than looks.
I can assure you however, fat people pulling hot girls is a rarity.
He has a big dick
Probably a good personality. I bet he's probably pretty smart though and has good future prospects. I guarantee you though she is cucking him and wants him to be her beta provider. Women will not go for a fat ugly man to satisfy their sexual desires. Period.
>>29529158
So the attractive girl dated the fatty on the off chance he might have a big dick? Because, if he did/does she certainly wouldn't know until after at least one date.
>>29529177
>Women will not go for a fat ugly man to satisfy their sexual desires. Period.
not true at all, he could have a satisfying dick or a satisfying tongue.
>>29529158
Are you fucking stupid,
>Muh dick privilege
How the fuck can they tell over text etc etc you retard
>>29528977
thanks OP, you gave me hope
for some reason my brain decided to fall for a clearly Stacy-tier looking girl (it's yet to be known if she's actually stacy) and i was worried that once I get to know her, she's actually cool but would be off-limits due to my physical appearance
>>29529366
you are retarded. that's not how things function in the real world. most people don't live inside their phone screens. people hook up and the girl can easily tell if he's packing it.
What if you're ugly, no six pack, and are a manlet? Literally nothing to offer. At least I'm not fat but I might as well be because I keep working out and I'm seeing gains in everything BUT abs.
>>29528977
Getting a girlfriend is simply a matter of being in the right place at the right time.
Most people on /r9k/ don't expose themselves to many women and don't even talk to other people when they ARE in public, so it's only natural that they wouldn't be getting any girls.
Ultimate guide to getting a girlfriend:
>Don't have BO
>Dress appropriately
>Regularly expose yourself to a place with a reasonable ratio of women
>Don't glare at everyone like a fucking autist
>Talk to people, you fucking moron
The last thing a woman thinks about during sex is how fat or how tall a guy is. If he has a good personality, good prospects and can turn her on she's as good as butter.
It's established in reality that girls do actually prefer chubby/fat hairy guys than testorone-less twigs.I know, I'm the latter.Look around you.
>>29529958
abs require very low body fat % sempai.
i suggest you keep cutting
>>29528977
He's confident because he probably has a big dick
>tfw been in good shape all my life, play sports
>still a kissless handholdless hugless virgin
I hate seeing fat men with women so much. I don't bother going outside much because seeing couples make me fucking angry.
>>29529972
I'll admit I have no friends and rarely go outside and don't talk to people when I'm outside. I can't handle conversation. People can probably sense how depressed and self-loathing I am. I'll probably an hero soon anyway.
>>29529990
I'm not even fat is the thing. Pretty much all my fat is in the belly area. I'm 5'7 150
>>29529186
She dated him because he's confident
He's confident because he has a big dick
Not really hard to put two and two together
>>29528977
>How do ugly/fat guys keep getting 8/10 to 10/10 girlfriends? It's fucking surreal.
They have actual personality unlike us - spineless faggots.
>>29530003
>>29530034
I have a big dick and I have 0 confidence so not true pham.
>>29528977
It's because their popular. Women want popular guys.
>>29529958
a guy i'm currently seeing has an attractive face (to me) yet he's definitely not every girls cup of tea, but he's also fat and a manlet. when we're together i can't keep myself off him.
in fact when we first met i barely acknowledged his existence, i was more interested in his friend who was tall, slim, cute face and had a girlfriend lmao.
things change, not everything is about appearance honestly. if he treats you right and looks at you like you're the only one that matters i could hardly give a fuck that he's a manlet.
>>29529972
Yeah, this is all it took.
>fat
>ugly
>balding
>nothing but vidya t-shirts and khaki shorts and a pair of loafers to wear
>only talk about ska music and video games
>never go anywhere outside of high school
>go with oneitis to be a stagehand at her music recital
>she tries to cuck me
>start ignoring her
>talk to everyone else
>have two girls' numbers by the end of the recital
>>29530023
Man, you know exactly what your problem is, so you're already fucking MILES ahead of where most people here are.
You've got a good body, so you know you appearance isn't going to be an obstacle. You just need to see a therapist and get those self-esteem, anxiety, and depression problems fixed, or at least mitigated.
>>29530045
That just proves your not confident
>>29530045
I think seven inches is considered above average, and I have absolutely no confidence in anything either.
>>29530076
fucking lol
This is how woman rationalize. Can't wait he finds out you cucked him.
>>29529042
First post honest post.
What women want most is a man who is comfortable with himself and confident with others. Looks are secondary.
People rate me an 8/10 but I'm still a virgin. The closest I've gotten with girls was when I was glowing with confidence. My brain chemistry prevents me from having such a good time around others usually, social anxiety.
>>29530092
Uh yeah. I said that so.
>>29530095
I just measured it and got 7.5 erect, 4.5 flaccid. Erect is above average but I feel like the flaccid is really small so even if girls see my dick it wouldn't be that impressive.
>>29530126
It doesn't mean he's NOT confident because he has a big dick. How is that hard to comprehend?
>>29530095
I have a big dick, that doesn't fucking matter if you're an ugly abomination like all robots you dicklet fuck. It won't even matter until you get into bed and by then it's too late for her to leave
Almost all the guys fucking hot girls in amateur born are boner-killingly ugly. Moreso even than professional male porn actors, and with smaller dicks to boot.
>>29528977
there are generally outliers to any rule, but they're the minority not the majority.
you're also probably overrating the chick because of how thirsty you are, and underrating your friend because of your own limiting beliefs
>>29530126
4.5 is pathetic dude. That's Asian-tier.
>>29530117
why would i do that when he makes me cum lol
have you ever even touched a woman?
>>29528977
The real secret for that guy is he talks to a lot of women. Shocking I know, I've had fat friends who went from like zero to hero in under like two years because they simply talked to women every day. It's odds, probability, statistics, and if they talk to twenty girls and one is dtf, then they get one.
Your fat friend probably just has a lot more experience with girls and talking to girls. Be honest.
I mean there's a whole host of reasons why she might like him, maybe he's quirky. Maybe she reminds her of a friend or of a past love, or yes even her dad (as studies have show people like the traits their parents have). Or maybe he got lucky and she just got out of a tough break-up and he got the rebound. Whatever it is, she likes him. Now enough of your pity party.
>>29530146
the fuck anon? I was saying that my dick is seven inches, and I was agreeing that it doesn't fucking matter. I don't think I'm ugly either, but still th only way I can get any confidence is my assuring that person I talk to is dumber than me, and that's where I lose interest in conversation anyway.
>>29530146
>Too late for her to leave
Sounds vaguely rapey. But hot. I'm into it.
I'm 5 10 balding and skinny fat and I've fucked 30+ women , only 5 of em under 6/10 (was blackout drunk for them)
I've got my shit together and I'm an active person who doesn't just spend all day on 4Chan maybe y'all should try it. I just treat women like people and what happens happens
>>29530122
But that's bullshit
I have zero confidence and have plenty of woman interested in me.
I'm just fit.
Looks alone can gravitate you towards pussy. Woman will rationalize it as
>oh wow, he's so quite. He must be a loner
>hmmm I bet he has a lot to say if I can get him to open up
>I can change him!
I could have pretty much fucked half my co workers and around my work area if I had confidence to pull the trigger. Hell, even when they throw themselves at me, I blow it.
>>29530084
I'm on Zoloft at the moment. I tried therapy before (CBT) but it didn't help much.
>>29530076
My bf is kind of the same. To me he's gorgeous (and he's fit plus smart) but my friends think he's only 'okay' and they're really bitchy about it. I had to tell one to stop because it was really annoying/upsetting me.
>>29528977
It happens but we are talking 1 in million and women still prefer chads.
>>29528977
Women are attracted to personality primarily because personality is what is most important for success in society.
This is the simple truth that robots just don't understand.
>>29530183
Because I know woman like you
You'll leave him as soon as you find another guy who looks better and looks at you the same way.
>>29530239
In extremes. If you're a 9/10 Chad women can get over your shyness. If you're a 1/10 walking abortion no amount of confidence is gonna save you.
But for every guy in the middle, confidence matters most.
>>29530084
Yeah that's not easy. Not the poster you responded to but similar situation
>>29530183
Fuck off cunt, hope you have a miserable shit life
>>29530179
Flaccid you dumbfuck.
>>29530285
I am the guy in the middle.
The only think I have going for me if my smile and semi-fitness.
>>29530297
Still pathetic. Im 6 inches.
>>29530259
that sucks, the same thing was happening to my friend. all her other friends were making sly-ish comments about her new bf. people really shouldn't give a fuck when it's not their relationship.
>>29530267
>This is the simple truth that robots just don't understand.
Deep down they understand that they have no personality so they want to project fault on this they cannot control like height, penis length or facial features.
I'm personality 3/10 but my care-free character attracts girls.
>>29529972
Fucking this right here, I don't have a social circle at all so I have no way to meet girls outside of work, or school when I was still going.
Also girls are more inclined to mess with a guy who has a decent social circle and does things regularly, it makes you seem like you have something to offer and people want you around. Then the girls will end up hanging out with the social circle or seeing them at gatherings and get to know a guy that way. As long as you are seen as a person who is likable, as long as you aren't ugly or balding or something then you can probably get a gf eventually. Girls will set up situation for their friends to hook up with a guy they know, and even encourage one of their girl friends to try to get a certain guy to hit on them. This makes it super fucking easy for normies to get gf's.
Whereas r9k has no friends and sits at home all day, so they're not gonna meet any chicks that way. And even if you work with some girls, and they start to look at you, once they find out that you barely have any friends or no friends and don't do anything besides go home and play vidya after work they will be turned off. You won't fit in with the "normie image" that they have to project to their friends in order to fit in. Girls just want to fit in with a social group, and are going to gravitate towards guys that also fit in with a social group. Girls aren't going to go against the norms by dating someone who doesn't do anything social, because their friends would look down upon it, and they can't post things to facebook/instagram and have a bunch of all of their friends like it and have it look like a normal couple.
Girls are just worried about perception when it comes to dating, they don't care how much they personally like the guy, just as long as the guy helps them fit in to a social group better and their friends approve of the guy is the most important things to women, hence why you see a sort of ugly guy get with a decent chick.
>>29530325
Well, what did you mean by
>plenty of woman interested in me
in your earlier post? How many women?
In the last 5 years I've had 9 different women that I know for sure were into me me. I've had several dates they just never went anywhere because of my lack of charisma and confidence. Only 3 I managed to kiss, and like I said I'm a virgin.
Would you consider that amount of women to be "plenty"? If so maybe I am wrong. Maybe looks do matter more than personality. Still, like you, without any good social skills I was unable to seal the deal or get a gf to last more than a few weeks.
Hey.
Fatty here.
Don't worry : most of us are still gfless forever.
>>29530413
Exactly, yeah. It also kind of annoyed me that the comments semi stopped when they gleamed that he makes a lot of money due to his niche work field. I like my normie girl friends but they're so stereotypical sometimes.
>>29530481
Then explain to me why I had a decent friend group of Chads in high school, was surrounded by girls every day, got invited to parties on multiple occasions, been told I'm good looking by many people, and I STILL never had sex or had a girlfriend that entire time? I'm not balding, I'm not ugly, I'm apparently likable enough to get invited places, I'm socially capable enough to be close friends and acquaintances with normies despite being different from them, my friend's gf once encouraged me to go talk to one of her friends, yet here I am still here.
Fuck your Reddit nonsense. It's not as easy as ''girls will just come to you if you're in the vicinity you WILL find someone who's interested''. Patently and utterly false.
>>29530611
Not that anon but your actions towards girls were not "sexualized". There wasnt any sexual vibe around you, so you were ignored or put into asexual category.
>>29530611
sounds to me like you're a pussy who never made effort to talk to them
unfortunately YOU have to be the one to take initiative.
>>29530647
fuck this is my problem. I am so afraid of looking like a creep that I basically act like a Ken doll
>>29530653
Fuck off to reddit.
>>29530647
I don't get that. How do you ''sexualize'' your actions? Maybe if I were on a date or at a party I could see it but just some girl you're in a class with or who's hanging out with your friends? Wouldn't there be some boundaries? If I flirted with some girl in my class I barely talk to they would not respond to that well.
Hopefully college is better.
>>29530701
>I am so afraid of looking like a creep
It's really strange from girls perspective if you like them but do not make any physical approach. They can forgive uncomfortable contact and good rebound from it than all-talk-but-no-touching.
>>29530742
>How do you ''sexualize'' your actions?
You should be eye-fucking them aka you want to have sex so bad with them than it's clear for them out of your body language.
>Wouldn't there be some boundaries?
Depends what you want. If it's casual sex - it's usually not such a big deal but getting girlfriend - it's completely another league. The big part is how you present to them, that means body language, smiling, nodding, playful teasing and capability of reading women signs.
>>29530754
holy shit, this. there's something very turn off-y about a guy constantly making conversation with you and trying to APPEAR interested but not putting any vibes out there or otherwise getting closer to you physically.
>>29528977
Can't believe no one else has pointed this out
His cock is HUGE.
>>29530849
Story of my life right here
Seriously just fuck my shit up senpai
>>29529972
>>Talk to people, you fucking moron
Everything other than this is easy.
When you're ugly, how are you supposed to go up and talk to people (men or women) without getting made fun of or maced?
>>29531038
>ugly
Gee, i wonder if you're one of those 5-7/10 guys who think they're ugly? If you're not this ugly as my pic, you have unpleasant personality to be around.
>>29531106
>he didn't answer the question
>I am actually as bad as the picture
>implying anything under 7/10 isn't "ugly" anyway
>>29531152
>implying anything under 7/10 isn't "ugly" anyway
Stop being delusional, there are plenty of average 5/10 couples
>>29531188
don't bother, he's one of those faggots that considers 7/10 "average" and anything under that "deformed"
>How could a 5/10 guy keep getting getting girls in the 8/10 to 10/10 when I'm a 7/10 and anyone above 6/10 won't talk to me? Considering that 80 percent of women go for 20 percent of men, my calculations indicate that a 7/10 would have a right skewed binomial distributed probability of getting a girlfriend of a given attractiveness centered around 6.7829/10 with a wide standard deviation. But the these samplings yield a worryingly high confidence interval...
Why do you fucks need to make everything an equation?
I'll tell you right now, you can't solve for x on this one
>>29531230
think what you will but its been proven that women use that number rating system for men also
>>29528977
>he's not good looking in the face either but I can't really tell what women find attractive face wise anyway
things will get a lot easier for you when you admit to yourself that you're gay.
>>29529366
>what is a dick picog post
>>29529972
>Regularly expose yourself to a place with a reasonable ratio of women
Speaking from experience, this only gets you a quick trip to the police station.
>>29531188
>>29531212
Who cares?
Still never answered the question.
>>29528977
Personality plays a bigger role than you think OP.
Say you have the chance to buy one of two cars.
One car is old piece of shit toyota with a ferrari bodykit that makes it look 100% exactly like a real ferrari. However it drives, sounds and feels like utter trash.
The other car is a ran down subaru wrx. It looks like garbage but it drives like a fucking spaceshit carving up the roads and leaving other drivers in the dust.
At first you're going to want to test drive the ferrari look-alike. Because it looks so much better than the wrx. but once you drive it you'll realize it's not so great.
The subaru might put you off at first but once you have a drive you'll want to keep driving it and stop giving a fuck about the exterior.
Looks are like this.
if you don't know a girl looks are all that matters, because it's all she has to go off. She's going to assume guys that looks like ferraris drive like ferraris and assume that ugly dudes drive like some shitty toyota.
But normies usually socialize a lot where their true character comes accross and she realizes that beat up wrx looking guy is actually a far, far better car that muscle bound ferrari guy with shit engine so she decided to drive wrx.
Yes I know my analogy is retarded, but you get the idea
i just want him to want to be with me. long term.
>>29529042
as much of a meme as this shit is at this point he's entirely right
you need to know who the fuck you are and be comfy with it, and if you are able to show all that you'll be able to attract someone perhaps leagues above you
