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I am a kissless virgin at 24 years old. No experience, zero,
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I am a kissless virgin at 24 years old. No experience, zero, nothing. No dates, never had a gf, never held hands, obviously never had sex. Whatever is even the slightest level of experience with women, I do not have.

At my current age. For the first time i am really feeling like my lack of exp is holding me back. It is holding me back in growing out of my awkwardness with women. Im sure you guys are familiar with the effects of becoming an old virgin. I dont want this.

So, im been thinking about visiting a prostitute, as i live in the netherlands its possible to find a legit out. However I dont want to do this. So now im thinking about going to a massage parlor to get an intimate massage with body 2 body and a happy ending. Im thinking it might help me with my problems that come from inexperience.

What do you guys think about this?
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Losing your virginity won't make you magically not awkward with women. It'll only make you an awkward non-virgin.
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But have you been lifting? You do know that all your problems disappear if you repeatedly lift heavy blocks of metal.
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>>29505261
massage parlors just seem like a different form of prostitution.

just go to a prostitute, you'll probablyb e allowed to do more which means more experience.
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>>29505294
i tried this for almost three years. I dont have good genetics for it.

>>29505285
I know but maybe the physical experience will boost me.
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>>29505285
eh, you know. people say this all the time. but i find the topic of sex comes up a lot in conversation... not with like people you just make small talk with.. but with people you are around regularly it comes up. it makes it awkward when you have literally nothing to contribute because you are 24 years old and have no clue what a vagina feels like.
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>>29505261
Having an orgasm with a woman isn't going to make you an attractive partner, able to talk to women, etc.

I think the problem is you're putting too much value in sex and losing your virginity

>the Visigothic Code of law in the 7th century placed the prime of life at twenty years for both men and women, after which both presumably married. Thus it can be presumed that ancient Germanic brides were on average about twenty and were roughly the same age as their husbands. The youths partake late of the pleasures of love, and hence pass the age of puberty unexhausted: nor are the virgins hurried into marriage; the same maturity, the same full growth is required: the sexes unite equally matched and robust; and the children inherit the vigor of their parents.
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>>29505329

just lie you fucking idiot
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>>29505345
No i am not putting too much value in sex and loosing my virginity. thats the whole reason im not looking to fuck a prostitute. Im looking for any benefits that come from intimate physical interaction without sex.
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>>29505369
lying doesn't come easy to everyone psycho
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>>29505261
I fucking love charles bronson (both pic related and the actor)

hope the geezer is still alive
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>>29505378
You might end up regretting your first time being with someone you paid
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>>29505420
oh shut up. he's 24. he's had a lot of time to thinka bout it i'm sure.

all you fucking normies ... one second you're saying sex is no big deal and doesn't solve anything, the next you're saying you're going to regret going to a prostitute cause you have this stupid romantic idea that your first time should be special.
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>>29505420
I might regret my first handjob from another person?

pleas try to look at the situation from my standpoint. I know that a lot of covert chads roam this board.
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>>29505261
you should remain a virgin and never have any kind of sex and start acting and dressing like a girl instead
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>>29505393
No, you're just a braindead fucking autist with no fucking creativity or imagination.
It isn't hard to make shit up.
Your parents should have aborted you. Every single autist in society brings the rest down a little.

I wish your ilk didn't come to 4chan in droves around a decade back. You're basically killed off most of the spontaneity of this site. I hate you so fucking much.
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>>29505261
I think you're trying to do the equivalent of signing up for a martial arts class and expecting to pull off black belt techniques in 3 months. If you have no experience, go get experience. Talk to women. Get rid of your approach anxiety. Learn how to flirt, learn how to dress properly, get interesting hobbies and become interesting, learn how to listen and how to tell stories, step by step.
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Fullfilling the mechanical act in a prostitute wont solve anything, you'll still be who you were.
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>>29505580
>learn how to listen and how to tell stories
Might be the soundest advice I've ever read here.
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The problem with you guys is that you think sex is the end all of relationships and everything else is just what leads up to it.

To get sex, you need to be good at everything else. Starting with having the balls to approach women. Then comes, talking to them. Once you know how to talk, learn how to touch them and how to convey sexual meaning.

Then, learn how to get rejected because getting laid is a matter of odds. They say the first 1000 rejections don't count. What all anons must understand is that dating and casual sex are not a god given right but a skill, just like some fuckers are natural born baseball players and have been training since they were six, it doesn't mean you can't become a good baseball player yourself and get in a home run. It's just that it's more comfortable to make it seem hopeless, rather than do it and get yourself out and get hurt in the process unavoidably.

If you still feel like getting your dick wet no matter what, at least make sure you hire a good escort.
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>>29505261
Fucking a prostitute won't teach you how to interact with girls
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>>29505261
My gf of three years left me two weeks ago. A week later I was already hooking up with a qt from college. I'm 21 and was bullied all throughout high school and have major self esteem issues but women don't seem to be a problem. I'm not ugly thank jesus. Maybe seek therapy? Don't rush it or get prostitutes it's not gonna make you feel better
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>>29505285
You're entirely right.
But it does take a burden off your shoulders.
Especially at that age
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You could pay thousands of euros to an escort agency specialized in adult male virgins. Meanwhile, Chad fucks women like that for free.
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>>29505775
he's 24 years old. people on average lose their virginity at 15-16 years old. anyone he meets will have almost a decade worth of experience that he doesn't have.

if you think that doesn't fuck with your confidence dealing with women then you're a retard.

therapy really? i mean that can take years. then he'll just be a 25-27 year old virgin and will still have this obstacle to overcome when he meets his first partner. if he feels like sex is holding him back he can go pay someone today and find out if it really is.

op just go get a hooker, if it doesn't help you're only out a couple hundred bucks... basically the price of a session of therapy.
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>>29505775
so what the secret. Is it the girls you pick or the way you act?
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>>29506199
Both my man and I don't know the secret believe me... My guess is that when I was in a relationship I acted very confident around girls knowing I wouldn't have sex with them since I was in a relationship. After the break up I realized how much that confidence actually paid off. It's really hard for me to look at girls in the eye for me but I do it anyway. And yes the qt I hooked up with is shy as heck, so that's better for me since I'm also kind of shy. If you're looking for a relationship act genuine or you're both gonna be disappointed. If you're looking to fuck put on your confident facade and pick wisely.
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>>29505448
Uh, okay. Sex won't solve your problems but that doesn't mean you should go out and have sex just to have sex.

>>29505464
I am looking at it from your standpoint, you think paying someone for a handjob will make you more confident and attractive. Maybe you'll regret having to pay someone, or that you'll meet someone soon and you'll regret not waiting, or that it caused more problems because you'll still be awkward and not confident.

Sounds like you just want to have sex though, you said you're not glorifying sex and making it so important, but then you're saying "well i just want a handjob think of it from my view".

At least be honest if you just want to have sex. Sounds like you just want to have sex but you're trying to make it sound like it's a medical issue or something.
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