Do you think society and men in general would be better if internet porn wasn't available?
Femanons what do you think?
From what I can gather:
>Most guys develop an unrealistic expectation of beauty. You find yourself competing for men with plastic princesses and moaning myrtles from the internet
>Guys are developing ED in record numbers, because they can't stop jacking it 8 hours a day. When it comes time for sex, they are already sexually drained by their computer screen.
>Hairy Hands Henry's misfire their pheromones and don't give off the right signals, and interact with females in a natural way. Turn offs
>Men demand increasingly depraved shit in the bedroom. From cuck fantasies, to femdom fantasies, to bondage fantasies. He's so sexed out that he needs to push the envelope to the limit each time to get his dopamine rush
(((Porn))) has enabled entire legions of men to withdraw from society. Instead of working like mad to make themselves respectable relationship material, they can sit comfortably in their mother's basement and still have all their direct sexual needs taken care of. This is where we get our cringelords: weaboos, horsefuckers, /v/ tards....etc
So, should we ban porn? You're never gonna tear them away from it except by force
>>29427484
You're probably right, OP. However, I'm too busy fapping to porn right now to really care
>>29427484
This is going to be me with an oculus rift. What a dream. I can't wait for it to finally come out and vegetate with it on my head all day long in some forest or on a rollercoaster or fucking 2d lolis.
>>29427484
If porn was banned, only more men would go insane and become a danger to themselves and others. Porn is a form of escapism
>>29427484
Hm, it's my rabbinical opinion that this is yet another thread, another, seeking to hoodwink men into believing:
>It's unrealistic that fatties could exercise
>Women are competing for men with any investment of effort or spirit
>The "right signals" matter at all to a species that has since developed more accurate and complex systems of communication
>That a good woman is no better than your most cherished fetish
Porn isn't to blame here.
>>29427484
I just think women who do porn need to be slut shamed snd ostracised for being glorified hookers.
>>29427484
>whiny gynocentric roastie bullshit
>it's a problem because men do this and men do that wah wah wah
You cunts contribute N O T H I N G to a relationshit besides a wet hole and you have the nerve to whine.
Cunts are boring nags.
Never a relationshit.
>>29427484
This is literally why I refuse to date men who watch porn. If my bf keeps watching porn (which he doesn't anymore and probably won't) I'm probably going to dump him.
I don't really want to deal with broken-dick syndrome, or compete with women who literally have silicon implants all over their body. /shrug
It's not enough
ban the whole Internet (from home use, educational/library only)
otherwise porn will never be fully stopped (just think about every poster on non-porn places like 4chan and phone photos etc)
and the whole of the Internet is just like porn for conversation. and Women's equivalent of porn is social media
KILL THE WHOLE NET
>>29427584
Half true.
if porn was banned AND premarital sex illegal at the same time, and parents encouraged young marriage THEN things would be fixed.
It's definitely hypocritcal to only ban porn without also reforming marriage and making premarital sex equally hard to access. Otherwise chad and 80% of women will continue to do the same degeneracy
>>29427484
>Do you think society and men in general would be better if internet porn wasn't available?
No? Masturbation is a perfectly natural biological function, and it relieves stress. Anything that encourages masturbation is probably a good thing.
>Most guys develop an unrealistic expectation of beauty.
>Most guys
>[citation needed]
>Guys are developing ED in record numbers, because they can't stop jacking it 8 hours a day.
>Claiming there's is a correlation between masturbation and ED
>[citation needed]
And if by some stretch this were true, any form of sexual activity would also lead to ED.
>Hairy Hands Henry's misfire their pheromones and don't give off the right signals, and interact with females in a natural way.
Homosexuality exists.
>Men demand increasingly depraved shit in the bedroom.
This is rather specious, because while it has elements of truth, it's really not the case. You can probably become desensitized to porn to some degree, but I don't think means you'll necessarily graduate to one extreme fetish after another. More likely, the accessibility of porn just makes it easier to discover yourself and develop a better understanding of your sexual framework. After all, isn't the basis of any fetish psychological?
>>29427763
If porn was banned and premarital sex was illegal, the latter would still be much easier to get. Plus women don't need proper sexual release to function
>>29427773
>And if by some stretch this were true, any form of sexual activity would also lead to ED.
It actually would.
People who focus on porn as the only problem miss the whole of the sexual revolution which includes premarital sex and contraception, which were normalized first.
I wouldn't mind if porn were banned, but It would also have to come with massive returns to tradition with regard to society's view of marriage.
>>29427810
Neither do men. That's another piece of propaganda. Celibate men used to be glorified, they used to do most of the science and scholarship.
>>29427484
>Femanons what do you think?
I think men are fucked up degenerates who hate women and cannot really connect with us anyway, so porn exists to give them constant stimulus. I think that sure, some of their intense libido is natural, but some of it is stimulated by near constant sexual objectification of women - in ads, in movies, in whatever.
I think it's very easy to withdraw from society now for everyone. Men also probably don't feel any guilt in doing so either.
>>29427837
>sexual objectification
what a meme
>>29427659
Obviously women can get better too. But the sad truth (sorry to say) is that most beauty is simply genetic. Most girls with flat stomach's and DD tits don't work out, don't eat right, their body just assumes that shape.
There's always going to be a sliding scale of attractiveness for women, just like there is for men. It's totally unrealistic for a basement dweller to think he can pull down a cheerleader, he likely should settle for something a little more his speed. Some of the happiest relationships I've seen have been between less-than-attractive people who knew to be grateful for what they had.
Putting off the "right signals" certainly matters a great deal. See here:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
A man who's short a relationship might lift a finger.
But a man who's short on sex will move a mountain.
places where porn is illegal have higher rates of rape
>>29427883
Ban the whole Internet and then we'll see a massive fix in masculinity. Porn is but one component.
Porn is great because it reduces the population.
Unfortunately, expansive cultures with tribal codes that promote fecundity (I S L A M) have to fuck everything up.
We must corrupt the Muzzies with porn.
>>29427717
>I don't really want to deal with broken-dick syndrome
Well, if he's watching porn... Maybe there's some kind of libido imbalance and he's the one who could stand to have his deceased a notch?Assuming the reason you're not satisfying him isn't because Tyrone's already satisfying you
>>29427883
I agree with what you're saying. Which is why arranged marriage was a thing in the past. There was NO notion of marrying a girl for her looks, it was all practical and people married their childhood friend introduced to them by their parents.
the idea of "romantic love" and choice is overrated, as is the very concept of dating.
Old-fashioned chaperoned courtship was better. People matched with their physical and social equals.
I know several Indian immigrants, they're all happy with their arranged marriages.
>>29427884
We accept a certain number of car crash deaths to get to work on time
Perhaps we could accept a slightly higher rape-rate if it led to greater rates of family formation, the abolition of degeneracy, and lower social dysfunction
There's trade offs to everything. You ban cars, you'll save a few thousand traffic deaths, but the economy would collapse and your people would be miserable and starving to death
>>29427915
Whites need to ban porn and have more children. We can't let Muslims overtake the population.
>>29427484
srs shill get the fuck out
it would be a good thing because it would force me to get a better job to afford a bunch of doms to get my femdom which will in turn partially boost the economy due to all the money that the doms will spend with my cash
>>29427964
That's really not going to work at this point, lol
>>29427484
I'd be ok with all pornographers being rounded up and shot
>>29427953
Thing is it would only lead to more hookups and casual sex without family formation , given the current culture.
We'd also need to ban all of this as well and make marriage sacred again.
>>29427984
So... every 16 year old with a cell phone?
>>29427999
This is what I'm getting at.
The whole intenret is at this point inherently tied to porn, to the point where an extreme police state would be needed to root it all out.
I say it's better to shut down the whole Internet as we know it. It's only harmed society, in many ways not just porn
>>29427857
Anon, half-naked women are constantly featured to sell products. There are constant pans of women's bodies even in kiddie movies. Come on.
I'd give me insentive to get better at drawing so I could make my own porn and sell it illegally.
I tell you one thing, all the virgins out there would become immaculate artists if you banned porn. That or rapists.
>>29428011
I don't really disagree, but television isn't much better.
>>29428037
TV is more easily regulated. It's no trouble at all to keep degenerate programs off of TV. It's impossible to do so with Internet without extreme removal of freedoms. We'd be more free with no internet at all than with a heavily locked down one.
>>29428028
Women are objectified because they have nothing else of value to contribute. Males are superior at everything else. Women are a one trick pony and prostitutes out of necessity.
>>29428047
>It's no trouble at all to keep degenerate programs off of TV.
Yes, perhaps, if you turn the damn thing off.
>>29428071
This didn't use to be true before the Industrial Revolution.
Technology and consumerism fucked everything up, it removed women's other duties, things like making clothes for the whole family, working on the farm, and raising many children.
Industrial society weakened men (replacing with machines) and stole the sacredness from women because women are the ideal consumer class
>>29427999
If nobody was making it, they wouldn't be watching it. Go for the source of the problem.
>>29428099
So you think society should be forced into a lower tech level?
That's an interesting concept, how do you enforce that?
I think you'd need government in control of production. So they'd allow higher tech to be used in critical production of food, clothing, housing....etc, but would limit the tech level of the rest of the civilian population in the interest of fostering functional communities
It could work, who knows.
>>29428071
Not true at all. Women are objectified to degrade and insult them, kinda like you're doing right now. Men like you would prefer women never think they can do anything at all, or worth anything at all, because then women are easier to control.
>>29428410
Whatever roastie. Just observe what your sex creates when segregated from men (i.e. nothing and scrapbooking) and then observe how you constantly intrude on male spaces and destroy them to "include" yourselves or try to duplicate them retardedly (WNBA).
>>29427484
Women can just go get bent by some other idiot. They won't have any problem doing that.
I agree that pornography is bad for the male sexuality but anything done for the supposed benefit of women is horseshit. They'll just go off somewhere else.
>>29428363
Honestly, great in theory but would never work in practice , without something like memory erasure technology to keep the masses from even discovering certain harmful ideas (like Internet communication or promiscuous sex).
Basically ignorance is bliss
we'd all be much happier as illiterate peasants with a life defined by day to day simple struggle, and family. No need to know anything more.
>>29428458
to add, look into neo-reactionary thinking
it's like the "alt-right" but without the cringy racial shit and memes, and goes far further with real traditionalism
Basically the last 300 years of history were a mistake, including the Enlightenment, democracy, dating rather than courtship, and the list goes on.
Feudalism was good for both the upper and lower classes, the Middle ages dindu nuffin
>>29427964
The easier solution to that is to just bomb the mud hut people into non existence.
i look at pornstars without makeup, that makes things real, real fast
>>29428527
Actually, the "primitive" peoples are happier overall, just not compatible with Western life and ways of thinking.
If they only stuck to their own shitholes and never were tempted with the decadence of the west, both whites and shitskins would be better off.
>>29428011
Internet was fine back in the early two thousands when it was basically only robots on it.
>>29427484
Porn addiction and depression are a meme.
Women watch porn too.
>>29428363
Pol pot tried this it was fucking an awful idea.
>>29428566
I think forcing it would never work, society literally needs to collapse on its own
>>29428449
>literal laws existed stopping women from doing shit
>WNBA destroyed NBA, somehow
Keep lying about history, you maladjusted dick-bearing piece of dog shit.
>>29428546
Yet the "early " Internet users were probably even bigger porn addicts than today's mainstream users.
They weren't any better, in fact they were probably worse, just a tiny minority of losers.
Maybe the one redeeming factor was lower speeeds, thus less potential for addiction
>>29428596
Stay triggered and inferior, you roastie cunt.
Just remember that everything you use and everything you do was invented and built by a man somewhere. You and your sex are a burden.
>>29428625
both of you are wrong.
there was once a time when both sexes were in their proper place
sadly that was well over a century ago, before men fucked up by inventing too much for their own good and abandoning God. Then women followed
>>29428625
Nah, brah, women were right there inventing shit and helping society progress, even when men had them stuck in kitchens.
You rape and kill us at much higher rates than we do you. There's really no word for how horrible and disgusting men really are.
assign all men a female slave
kill all the girls below a 6/10
ban porn
society fixed
>>29428603
You have no room to talk here unless you actaully dont jack off. Which i know is not true.
I was only talking about how early internet was alot funner before people started to care how they looked online. I remember when you would get made fun of before for caring about your "epeen" now every normie is obsessed with their instagram follower count.
>>29428746
You seriously think people didn't consume tons of porn in the early 2000's?
>>29428705
This is not the proper way to think of male/female relationships.
Men and women are two halves of a whole. Two separate parts of the same organism. It's as if your arm detached from your body for some evolutionary advantage. You are still one being, just physically separated.
Men fulfill one role in the social unit, women fulfill another. Because of their specialization, men are more violent, more likely to rape and commit crimes. But I could just as easily say that my right hand is more likely to kill someone than my left
A woman at war with men is like a person at war with themselves. And vice a versa
I'm a girl and it's something I've struggled with for a long time.
I've come to terms with the fact that Pandora's box was opened and it can never be reigned back in.
I've had to see the last five or six years the slow denigration of the opposite sex into something really mentally fucked up.
I feel really bad for girls who are just growing up right now - as young preteens, and girls of the future. Of their generations men will demand far more than they demanded of mine. If I thought I grew up insecure, I can't imagine what it must be like to grow up in the age of Whore culture.
I've had to stand silent and alone as men, women, feminists and MRAs all praise porn as a positive. But as time goes on people start to open their eyes to how it is ruining society fairly quickly. I was right and I feel vindicated but I wish I wasn't.
I used to get so much abuse on my anti-pornography shit posts and that has really trickled down on 4chan (except it's still bad on Reddit for now). But it's too late really. There is so much porn out there that if you sat down and started watching it all, you wouldn't finish in this lifetime. We can't even destroy child porn completely, and that has far less support and is far more taboo. Adult porn is fucking lauded by everyone and treated as sacred. Porn is the only place you can pour milk and cereal into someone's asshole, get someone to eat it out with a spoon, and people will jerk off to that instead of be disturbed. Porn is sacred. Normies will never let it go.
>>29428801
Consider that closing the Internet itself is possibly the only way to stop it. Basically, the very idea of "Free Internet" makes porn impossible to stop. We'd need an extremely controlled Internet , and at that point we'd be better off having no Internet at all .
I'd suggest you become Christian. I've seriously considered monastic life myself.
>>29428801
People don't realize that what you talk about was made possible by society abandoning religion. Laugh all you want but it's true. In a Christian society it would never have happened.
>>29427484
>other women are whores so it is difficult to compete for chad
boo hoo
>>29428912
Casual sex is to women as porn is to men, both are part of the same cancer of sexual liberation.
If everyone was still majority Christian and supported sanctity of marriage, both men and women would be happier.
>>29428840
So? Before the Internet people had to go out and buy their porn. Yes, that was more taboo so fewer did it, but now people know what porn is and they are addicted to it, they'll want to get it back. Without the internet they could just go buy an external HD loaded up with 3 TB of porn and that would suffice. It'd be like trafficking drugs basically.
There is too much content out there. And law makers don't want to deal with it at all because half of them are paid off by the porn industry. Nevada and Cali government officials are DEFINITELY sitting in the pocket of the porn industry which is an 80 billion dollar industry.
Honestly I think I was born in the wrong world. I swear there is a different world out there in another dimension where there is none of this porn shit and no one is degenerate and people just like each other for what they can offer, instead of degenerate impulses and inane standards. I've always felt it's been "off" here. I just feel too different from the general public, to the point where even on the Internet, in the """weirdest""" places (like r9k) I feel othered.
>>29427484
I guess I'm part of the 0.000001% then.
>>29428971
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm coming to the same conclusion too but I'm saying the Internet itself is almost as bad as porn and there's no way to stop one without stopping the other.
I'm a programmer and I feel like I'm guilty of witchcraft, that the more technology I develop the worse the world becomes, and it's giving NOTHING to society.
I have urges to go out in the middle of the woods one day and try to survive, even though I know I'll die.
I think you should go find a real traditional church or monastic community, that's what I'm thinking of doing, the only thing holding me back is my job and studies.
>>29428971
btw, Though it goes against the religious ideals I've begun to appreciate, I have also thought that mind erasure technology is a needed solution for future generations.
If there was a way to literally erase the memory of the very existence of things like porn, the world would be a better place. fuck people who think that violates their "Freedom".
>>29428971
contd.
but you're right, it's not just Internet.
It's the very nature of modern technology, which allows instant gratification.
I hate being tied to it. It's all I've ever been good at, tech skills, but in reality, it's all pure evil. I'm convinced the Amish are right and Satan gave us electricity. Because before that all this degeneracy was physically impossible.
And as someone who struggles with porn myself (but would agree in a heartbeat if it were fully banned and disappeared from existence), I believe I'm too broken to deserve a wife, family or future. Same with pretty much everyone who even knows what porn is and has used it once.
I need to accept celibacy and live with the guilt and it's between me and God.
>>29428705
>us
your kind isn't wanted here
>>29429024
I wouldn't ever join a church anymore. You know with the state of the world plenty of the people involved in current religion are fucked up beyond belief. They preach and then go home and watch IR gangbangs.
I can't look everyday men in the eyes anymore because God knows what degenerate shit they jerked off to the night before. I wouldn't be able to deal with it, I've grown too accustomed to assuming everyone is fucked up. I've read too much of their private thoughts over the Internet to think anything less.
I've just become socially reclusive. I'm one person. Every legitimate person that has spoken out against pornography has had their reputation tarnished by the industry. Every lawyer, doctor, writer, etc. The PR machine they've had the last 50 years is what made this all possible. You can trace it back and it's interesting but disturbing to witness.
I think society would be better if women had less rights and every man had his own wife.
Internet porn would cease to be an issue after that.
>>29429166
I can't even look at myself in the mirror. I know exactly how you feel. I get the urge to gouge my own eyes out Oedipus style now and then.
I should kill myself honestly, and stop talking to you because I'm polluting you with my existence anyway.
>>29429198
You're okay anon. Don't kill yourself. I firmly believe more and more people are waking up. This thread would've gone poorly had it been posted a couple years ago. I don't have much hope in anything getting better, I mean boomers basically sold our adulthood to the devil. But if individual people can make the decision to drop pornography, the world can be a little bit brighter. You know?
>>29428642
You're right about both sides carrying the burden of the blame, I'll give you that.
But what really fucked us up as a society is when women started to work. That really fucked up the dynamic between the sexes and continues to do so today. Women become like men through doing these jobs and lose everything that makes a female desirable as a partner, I.E that soft kindhearted acceptance you'd want to go home to after a long day.
That's no longer there because she sees you and treats you just like she does her male colleagues which is with cold indifference or worse. There is no trade of resources and no desire to tolerate or build something with someone else becasue the individualism and your own ideal reality meme has been pushed so hard and its infected society to a point that its starting to collapse it. Men drop out because they see no reason or purpose to their efforts and women fulfill their desires and see no reason for men besides a quick tinder fuck when they're in the mood. Most men need women to participate in society socially and progress professionally past a certain point and that's not happening for an entire generation.
I'm tired and lazy so this might not be as well written as it could be but hopefully it gets some discussion going.
>>29429254
I wish there was a way to drop porn without dropping the whole Internet. I've already drastically cut it, but it's not enough That's my biggest fear, that it's impossible to really eliminate its influence without excising all computers and modern technology from my life.
Even the WORDS on sites like this are pornographic. Even with images completely blocked, the very language is literally porn. This sounds silly but every little meme and slang word on this site and any other is part of the same machine.
The worst part is just realizing that no matter how long I quit porn, I'll never undo my destruction in my developing years. I'll never truly be a child again, and nor will I ever deserve a family, which is all I want because I know how happy I was as a child (even as an autistic special-ed child).
but no, I don't think I'm deserving of any of that.
I'm this close to becoming the next Unabomber tbqh
>>29428840
What religion teaches, the values of a community, established rules and a feeling of belonging and camraderie that most people seek can be found elsewhere in less damaging things. Religion comes with its own set of problems and dark sides just as much as many organized systems do. If what you're looking for is what I listed above it can be found in martial arts or a hobby that allows you to interact with others as much as it can be found in religion.
Ultimately what people want is a place to belong which is why so many of us come here.
>>29427717
>I don't really want to deal with broken-dick syndrome
so relationships are all about vain and unimportant things like sex to you
glad I'm fapping to porn and not having to deal with that
>>29428792
When did i say that? I dont care that people watch porn. I was just being nostalgic about 2000s internet. You are the faggot who thinks its ruining men.
>>29429263
I think it all goes back to abandonment of the landed/agrarian way of life.
Evil concentrates in cities. In the Bible, Cain built the first city, and it's constantly repeated that the more man builds up, the closer to angering God he gets. Tower of Babel and all that. I'd know first hand because I grew up in NYC.
It's no coincidence that all the parables of the New Testament are about farming and land. I think man (as a whole, including woman) fucked up big time by leaving the land behind.
I outgrew it as I got older. I never got laid when I was younger but porn was like sensory overload when I saw it. You miss out on a lot of the nuances of figuring your partner out that porn never really captures.
>>29427717
i dated a girl before who sounded kind of like you. as i later found out, the porn was actually filling a void for me becauseshe wasn't hot enough. it wasn't that the porn was giving me "broken-dick syndrome", it was her ugly face and meh body
>>29429408
That's what's happened to me over the past few months. I did two 3-week no fap periods , and since then though I still relapse now and then I now see porn as NOT REAL and realize I'm not actually taking part and then it just feels incomplete and shitty and ceases to turn me on.
I'm glad that this just snapped in me intuitively rather than having to spend my whole life fighting temptation
Guys, im 24 years old and a kissless virgin and just started masturbating about a month ago (yes you read that right)
i dont watch porn at all. like, at all. when i masturbate, i either looks at girls pictures/videos on reddit or just lie on my bed stroking thinking of some girl at work or something, or even nothing, until i cum
>>29429410
No, porn sort of have you the standards that made her body look meh and her face unsuitable.
Porn really sort of fucked me up in the sense that I'll never compete with a revolving door of attractive women who have been nipped and tucked and genetically blessed, I'll never feel good enough, I'll never be good enough. Being born in a normal, able body was not good enough or satisfactory. Just "meh" for most men, something they settle for because they couldn't get the stuff they're accustomed to seeing on a screen. Something they make-do with.
It really sucks, you know? I was never an avid porn watcher or ever even masturbated to it so when I look at a man I love I have hardly anything to compare him to. I just love him, you know? He just looks good to me because I haven't been exposed to an overload of hundreds of hypersexual and exaggerated male bodies.
But knowing that no one will ever look at me the way that I look at them? Because their brains have been fried through nearly a decade of porn use? Shit makes me want to die, desu.
>>29429508
That's what I feel but from the other side. That even after I've fully quit porn, I need to give up and endure a life of celibacy because I have already forsaken my right to ever deserve a partner
>>29429536
You can still make someone happy. A lot of people don't think about this too hard or even acknowledge it. To them, they'd be genuinely happy with someone just caring for them, etc.
>>29429575
In what way? Certainly not marriage. Even if I consciously abstain I can't erase memories from over a decade of the shit.
I don't think I'd have a problem quitting porn if I had a wife (I did it for almost a year during my one past relationship), but it won't matter because the damage is done.
This is why I've seriously been considering some sort of monastic lifestyle, giving to the poor and making people happy in a different way. I'd have to deal with crippling loneliness but I deserve every bit of it.
>>29429379
That's a big part of it too. The convenience a large city provides with none of the benefits of a community because the size doesn't provide for it. Kind of like throwing a bunch of tribes together with differing goals and ideals or a petri dish of different bacteria. The bible is just incorporating sociological concepts and passing it as wisdom but its no different.
By leaving the land behind as you say the dynamic is ruined. Rural and small town communities have a welcoming charm to many because of the fact that it reminds them of a simpler way of life which I also think ties in with what you say.
Pic related is where we're all going in the coming years.
>>29429617
Yes I agree, I'm not a zealot who goes out of his way to attack other religions. They all have some sort of sexual abstinence and shame in them, people act like it's only a Christian or Abrahamic thing. It was just common sense for everyone who wasn't an incestuous cannibal nignog/abo
I believe a large percentage of porn usage can be attributed to males trying to cope with wealth/income inequality. A lot of males feel insecure of seeking relationships if they cannot provide, so how would banning porn not just increase male depression/suicide and increase the occurrence of rape?
Here's a THOUGHT that will make you THINK
Video games and PORNOGRAPHY have fucked up male brains as much as SOCIAL MEDIA has fucked up female BRAINS. You would only deny this because you are ADDICTED to video games and PORNOGRAPHY.
Really makes you THINK huh?
>>29429679
True but don't forget that 4chan is social media
>>29429667
It would.
but I've swallowed the black pill and realized this would be a good thing because the only fix is having everyone who's ever seen porn disappear and/or kill themselves.
>>29429696
If you have gotten to the point where you're on 4chan you have been fucked up in the head. Even if you think you're a normie and come to laugh at life's fuck ups. It's a space for for people frustrated and dissatisfied in life to talk about how life sucks (and video games, etc.) that fulfills our need to socialize without the discomfort of actual face to face interactions. It's basically an outlet for all the people that failed to integrate successfully into society because everyone wants to be heard in some way, no matter how anti-social you think you are.
>>29427484
>(((Porn))) has enabled entire legions of men to withdraw from society. Instead of working like mad to make themselves respectable relationship material, they can sit comfortably in their mother's basement and still have all their direct sexual needs taken care of.
It's freed men. Also,
>banning things because "you know better"
Fucking kill yourself.
>>29429818
I agree with you.
I can't say that the Internet made me socially retarded though, as I spent a lot of my childhood looking digging for bugs in the dirt or reading textbooks for fun and shunning conversation, and was diagnosed with asperger's (this was all before I ever used porn, vidya or Internet). It definitely made me worse though.
>>29429679
>>29429818
I don't deny any of this though. I realized at 17 that I needed to change and I did to a point where I'm bordering on the edge of society and being a fuckup. A sort of limbo zone where you're neither here nor there which is what a lot of people who come here relate to I imagine. This used to be a slow moving board where mutes were rare and content was original. Now its borderline fast as /b/. That has to be saying something about where society is headed and what its doing to young adults if such a large quantity are here.
>has enabled entire legions of men to withdraw from society. Instead of working like mad to make themselves respectable relationship material
>Instead of working like mad to make themselves respectable relationship material
>working like mad
>respectable relationship material
>for roasties and toasties
hahahahahahahahahah
stupid fucking normie
>>29429929
I see chans as an extreme demonstration of what happened to the whole world since the French revolution and acceptance of democracy.
As more and more plebs (me and you included) flood into what were once exclusive spaces everything continues to get more shitty, monotonous and overstimulating
>>29429964
Calm down.
I don't agree with the radical feminists in this thread. Porn AND sexualized culture fucked up men and women equally
>>29429980
>women posters on r9k
You think I'm not calm, when I know for a fact I will never succumb to the female relationship meme?
>>29430011
There's such a thing as rejecting both porn and females. Celibacy used to be celebrated in men, sadly it's now shunned because society is so backwards
How do you deal with the fact that by watching porn you give whores power over you and fund their lives.
>>29427484
No it shouldn't be banned.
It's natural selection. The weak men get weeded out, unable to reproduce because they prefer their screens to real girls.
Thres nothing wrong happening here it's simply evolution my man.
>>29428099
>women are the ideal consumer class
Yeah the people who choose to make less money and depend on their husbands for the bulk of their spending power are not ideal customers. The only reason they are so loose with their money is because it's someone else's.
>>29430047
I never said I watch porn.
I don't fap to video footage of roasties getting toasted by HGH and test pumped chads on a horse dose of viagra and amphetamine.
>>29429929
Yes, many of us are intelligent enough to recognize patterns and analyze how systems work, so we could potentially be successful socially. However, because many of us grew up in fucked up family situations, suffered abuse or neglect, were unattractive and thus shunned, and many of us never achieved that sense of empathy during our formative years to feel integrated into society. Because of that it's difficult to make real connections to people, that's why many of us choose to just dull our senses with an endless stream of entertainment in the form of video games, pornography, films, anime, whatever is your pleasure. Add drugs to the mixture and we are really living in a brave new world. We could realize it and accept it but again it's the fucked up formative years that many of us lived through that prevent this. In me it just creates a profound sense of disgust.
>>29430057
>The only reason they are so loose with their money is because it's someone else's.
Which will always be the case, because most men are chumps. So women are and will continue to be the ideal customers.
>>29430080
The ultimate robot here
>>29429410
>>29429508
i really disagree. imo you guys and gals seem to be making excuses for either not having a hot enough gf or not being a hot enough gf.
>>29430117
I don't care for his power principle theory, there are other ways to look at it. He was also very delusional that he could stop the technological system. Also discredited his whole Freedom Club by killing people. But fuck, he was right about a lot.
I'ma trannyand for the most part I look at some visual porn but prefer written stuff.
I don't think it gives me unreal expectations or weird fetishes, the main thing I get off to in itis imagining being dominated or slapped around, or being so turned on I can't control myself, like a dog in heat.
>>29430158
Oh , I totally agree with you that he was delusional and missed out on a lot of things (namely any notion of spirituality or belief that it simply can't be fixed on physical earth), not to mention the actual bombings which didn't stop anything
>>29429410
This. Women today are fatter than they've ever been. They put no effort into their appearance.
>>29428940
Romcoms and romance novels are to women as porn is to men.
We go on and on about how bad porn is because is makes men withdraw etc but why don't we talk about how absurd romance fiction has made women?
Women aren't looking for love or to build a life together. They want a rollercoaster ride or rather a theme park with a number of rides before being picked up by a limousine and taken to their private mansion.
WTF... I only ended up in this thread because I did a search for "porn."
>>29430241
They're not comparable in the addictive potential. Though I do agree with you, the very idea of "romantic love" over traditional courtship and/or arranged marriage is basically a whole system set up to benefit women and it was programmed into society via literature and media.
I don't believe love isn't real, but that it's something that doesn't need to happen at first sight, and is supposed to build over a lifetime. There's no such thing as a "soulmate", marriage is a compromise but that's the beauty of it
>>29430194
Nothing is going to be stopped. We have dug a deep hole and it's going to get deeper. Expect more suicides, more people depressed or mentally ill, more people just detached from the world around them escaping it through the endless stream of information and entertainment that surrounds them every moment of their lives. Yes, it's a shitty and pessimistic picture but that's what reality is going to become. Try to find a way to alter your perceptions to make it at least bearable.
>>29430103
Not when the marriage rate falls through the floor.
>>29430080
I understand where you're coming from but for me I was always kind of an empathetic type. If anything these fucked up situations made me more in tune with the suffering of others and what these living situations can do to a person. When I was younger I wanted to help them all even as I suffered through it myself. Now I still want to but I can't help but feel a mixture of hatred and disgust probably from seeing a reflection of my former self in them. Its hard to describe. Participating in society correctly is difficult for me because it demands that I reject this part of myself and put those people down to establish and maintain the pecking order no matter where I go and I hate myself for participating in that because I've experienced first hand what it does.
There are few alternatives and >>29430117 just realized this and where society was going. What we've all been through forces something a lot of people don't ever get to experience and that's introspection and isolation which builds critical thinking and gives you time to examine the society we currently live in especially if you follow news.
>>29430158
>He was also very delusional that he could stop the technological system
It's been a while since I read his manifesto, but I think there's a difference in knowing you can do something and trying to do something. He was fighting to stop it because that's what he believed in. If you don't try because you think it's pointless, then that's apathy. Apathy is death.
Also killing people doesn't discredit an idea. Pretty much all systems of society have been achieved through violence.
if we banned porn women would have a monopoly on sex.
we can already see what a fucking terrible idea that is just by looking at their current near-monopoly on sex.
>>29430321
I wish it wasn't empathetic. It's the reason why this world fills me with disgust. I have seen terrible shit and have had terrible things happen to me, and even though I am not completely negative about everything or life there is always reality staring me right in the face reminding me just how terrible this world is. I've been hungry, I've been in pain, I've been completely isolated and alone and to realize that millions upon millions people are suffering just the same is shit. I wish I was a detached sociopath, I wish I could just take advantage of my knowledge of how human interactions work without hating myself for it.
>>29427484
>(((Porn))) has enabled entire legions of men to withdraw from society.
No. Women in real life did that.
I assure you if the average woman wasn't an insufferable cunt falsely accusing men of rape, men wouldn't using porn so much.
>>29430463
>>29430433
Both did. Both porn and women's "liberation" are two sides of the same coin , that largely started with abandonment of marriage and acceptance of premarital sex and adultery, and only got worse from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkrZPZI2uU
>>29427484
>Femanons what do you think?
Society's over, god is dead, and now that the only point left to life is hedonism, it's pretty choice that porn lets us know the most depraved shit our brains will accept as erotic.
I'm all for it.
Let's fucking kill ourselves with cum and grease
>>29427484
>women are held to an unrealistic standard of beauty
You have the 80/20 rule backwards, m8. This is pure delusion.
>ED rates are rising
Right along with men willing to talk to a doctor about it
>porn allowed men to withdraw from society
I'm doing just fine withdrawing from society without it. It might be hard for you to grasp, but not everyone lives their entire life enslaved by their sexuality. You sound like your just projecting. wether you watch porn or not, reevaluate your life, op
>>29430270
>They're not comparable in the addictive potential.
Are you being serious? I would say Romantic fiction is more addictive and more wide-spread than porn. It's socially accepted as the only way to talk about love or relationships. Every woman and girl bar rabid feminists have bought in to it.
>>29430479
>two sides of the same coin
but porn is the effect of women being unfit for relationships, not the cause.
Porn isn't the cause of women being so awful, it's just the cost-effective replacement for being cucked in real life.
>>29430518
The boom in porn use started way before the current campus rape scare. It started when VHS made it possible to enjoy high quality porn in private.
>>29428642
>inventing to much
>abandoning God
GTFO church luddite
>>29428603
again
there is no such thing as a porn addict
>>29428940
>Casual sex is to women as porn is to men
please expand that thought anon
>>29430820
What is there to explain?
women can get it from thirsty men on click almost as easily as me can fap to porn, and for women it's the attention aspect that's addicting rather than just the physical. Even without casual sex women are addicted to male attention, and they get it on demand just like men get porn on demand.
>>29428795
was not expecting to find this kind of wisdom in r9k. glad someone gets it ;^)
>>29430895
Do women really care about male attention that much? It doesn't seem like it, at all.
You are delusional if you think men are the ones with the more skewed view on attractiveness. Just look at the statistics on dating site. All I ask for, superficially speaking, is reasonably good hygiene and don't be a fat fucking cow.
>>29431282
That's because you're desperate. Most men aren't desperate or self aware and hold unrealistic standards towards women.
You also feel like men have it worse because men dislike women for things that can be controlled like ass size, breasts size, weight, etc.
Whereas women dislike men for things that can't be controlled such as height and dick size.
Of course breasts size and ass size can only be controlled because it benefits men.
If we lived in a matriarchal society height and dick surgery would probably be possibly by now.
>>29431353
Women literally rate 80% of men as "below average" and you are going to keep spouting this fucking bullshit? kys
>>29430895
I think what I'm confused about is
How is wanting male attention as bad as having unrealistic standards towards women?
We know how porn is damaging to males but how is male attention damaging to women?
>>29431443
Where are you getting your from statistics from, buddy?
>>29431458
>but how is male attention damaging to women?
Because it also gives them unrealistic standards, just like porn does for men.
Women think that because a 9/10 man will fuck them, they deserve to settle down with a 9/10 man, and when they can't they'll spend the rest of their life being bitter about it.
>>29431353
>Of course breasts size and ass size can only be controlled because it benefits men.
>If we lived in a matriarchal society height and dick surgery would probably be possibly by now.
Addle-brained roastie gtfo. Height and dick surgery already exist. They're incredibly dangerous and expensive hence less common.
Men don't hold unrealistic beauty standards. Women are just whiny about having to meet any sort of standard.
>>29431458
>how is male attention damaging to women?
It's not male attention it's attention. Thousands of constantly fawning sycophants shower women with empty praise, swelling her ego to the size of a blimp.
honestly i dont even see the need to interact with girls, i'm clearly defective why do i even need to pass on my genes?
heck i dont even see people as girls or boys any more, they're just all just annoying
i'm going to spend the rest of my life ignoring the vast majority of other people and die happy that i didn't force another being to have to go through the torture known as existance
>>29431353
>If we lived in a matriarchal society height and dick surgery would probably be possibly by now.
If we lived in a matriarchal society we'd all be dead after a stronger patriarchal society genocided us.
>>29431502
>Women think that because a 9/10 man will fuck them, they deserve to settle down with a 9/10 man
I'm sorry, but, what's unrealistic about that?
>>29427484
I think there'd be substantially more rape
>>29431533
Only because of what porn and sexual liberation brought upon society in the first place.
if neither was promoted to begin with there would still be marriage and people wouldn't be fucking outside it or fapping to porn
>>29431529
9/10 men don't settle with 6/10s, they just fuck them because they're easy lays.
All average or near-average women give up pussy insanely easily, and they're usually manic depressive so they'd make horrible mothers, ergo, a 9/10 needs them for nothing other than sex.
The true alphas go for the top-tier feminine women or 8/10 wallflowers.
>>29431529
are you being serious right now
you think i "owe" you affection just because we had sex
fuck off
>>29427484
>if internet porn wasn't available
I'd start importing H-manga magazines and tankoubons then.
Taking porn away from losers who will never get female affection would be cruel. I know because I am such a loser. Porn is one of the saving graces in my life.
Who cares about what women want? It's current year.
>>29427484
First, not porn ruined me but romantic movies. I believed you will find the one and she will somehow magically fall in love with you. I believed you go on wacky adventures with your so and all will be well.
Meanwhile nobody loves you and you don't know why. Maybe you figure it out eventually only to realize everyone in your life is far ahead of you. They are earning their masters in love and relationships while you are in middle school compared to them. The Disney / Twilight etc love is a myth. People use each other until nothing better comes or they are too low value to jump ship.
Only thing porn does is make life for women a little harder (at least for now). Despite r9k MGTOW and shit a relative low percentage of men is content with porn only so far. But it is showing there are alternatives and until women and the state doesn't have a good deal for these men, their number will grow. It is actually capitalism at its best. You want something? then pay for it! Women and the state is used to free things because muh pussy and family values. Now they are in need and still doesn't understand it is their turn to pay for something they used to get for just being there.
>>29429508
This is so true.
Ive been asked out a few times and never been called ugly but i totally agree, i'll still never feel good enough because of those reasons, so i just avoid men completely
>>29427484
>blaming porn for men's withdrawal from society
I kek'd, women did that to themselves.
also
>triple parentheses
I'm surprised someone already hasn't told you to fuck off back to >>>/pol/
>>29431673
>>29429508
>>>/lolcow/
You have your own site, fuck off.
>roasties getting mad that they aren't constantly showered in attention just for being born with a wet hole
>>29431722
They still get constantly showered in attention if they want it.
They're just mad men shower other girls with more attention.
Chicks don't go in for looks mainly, they go in for substance. Social standing, money, charisma, sexual value in the eyes of other women. So being exposed to hyper sexualized male bodies would have very little affect, otherwise porn would put equal focus on dudes.
Guys go in for looks mainly. And you know what? That's fine. Fuck trying to rationalize this. It's nature, dammit. It's not fair. It just wants the best. If you realize you're no good, you either change or you accept the fact that you'll die alone. I've accepted that because of my moody emotional disposition, I'll probably never keep a gf. And that's ok.
>>29429508
Most dudes date women who aren't that super attractive. I'm an alright looking dude and I was dating a girl who was overweight for like 6 months and her looks didn't really bother me.
It did get to a point were I just wasn't turned on by her physically though, this isn't because I have a crazy high standard for women or anything.
>>29431673
>>29429508
So what, we're just supposed to be zen non sexual monks until we get together with you toasty roasties just to save your ego? This is literally worse than the robots who want a virgin gf, at least she isn't expected to have not had fantasies.
>>29431760
>substance.
>Social standing, money, charisma, sexual value in the eyes of other women
Personality and values conspicuously absent there.
>substance
Are you sure m8?
men want a sweet girl. this is considered superficial. women want a confident guy above all else. even if he's a total asshole. this is somehow substance.
>>29431708
(((Anonymous)))og[/spoiler}
I thought there was something wrong with you people. I thought you were delusional and paranoid, but I just talked to my female friend (and only friend) about this and you fucking idiots were right.
She doesn't find anything weird or wrong about having a backup nigga on speed dial to dick her down whenever she's out of a relationship. In fact, she was weirded out by the fact that I was weirded out by it. I really am going to be alone forever. There's no point in even trying if every woman has a Chad with a 16 inch dick ready to fuck at a moment's notice. I can't compete with that shit. I don't know if I can even ever talk to her again knowing what she's like. The worst part of it all is that she doesn't even think she's attractive. Everyone wants to have sex with her and she think she's hideous. I'm done with women.
Fuck this thread and fuck all of you.
When has anyone ever seriously listened to whining women?
>>29432210
>She doesn't find anything weird or wrong about having a backup nigga on speed dial to dick her down whenever she's out of a relationship.
It's pretty common senpai.
Pic related.
>>29432252
I'm going to kill myself in 5 hours. Any suggestions?
>>29427484
I found porn at a young age, 8 years old, and it fucked up how I viewed women. I knew they were all sexual beings but I treated them like they would never be interested in me. I compared myself to the guys fucking them and thought to myself that I would never be able to compete with that and that no woman would love me. Never bothered in my 26 years of life to talk to a woman. I actually had two girls in high school admit they had crushes on me and I just blew them off because I thought they were lying. I developed this weird thing where if a woman showed any affection to me, I wanted to get away from her as fast as possible. This might also stem from my fucked up family life with an abusive dad and a submissive mother who were both drunks and didn't let me do anything.
Breaks my heart that I'll never be in a relationship but that's just what I was dealt with in life. I'm also a 2/10 so there never was a chance to being with really. Women want to be with the best and that's not me.
>>29427484
>becoming upset that I can now live entirely in my own fantasy world
Wew lad, why would you even bother shilling this shit unless you have a vagina?
>>29429508
>I'm not ugly, it's just your standards that are unrealistic
lmao the nerve of this roastbeef
>>29432280
You're okay with watching porn for the entire rest of your life? No, you're not.
>>29432276
Just fap the bad feelings away.
>>29432296
I watch porn, and get horny enough to fuck my fwb shemale mate, and otherwise live a simple life growing natural foods for hippies.
I like porn, I like my fetishes, I don't need your fucking normie women. Shill elsewhere, I'm happy with this existence on the fringe of society.
>>29427484
even if you take porn away i stll wont have a life or a gf
>>29429508
Real life really sort of fucked me up in the sense that I'll never compete with a revolving door of attractive chads who are ripped and handsome and genetically blessed, I'll never feel good enough, I'll never be good enough. Being born in a normal, able body was not good enough or satisfactory. Just "meh" for most women, something they settle for because they couldn't get the stuff they're accustomed to fucking to settle down with them. Something they make-do with.
>>29427484
It's a problem, no doubt, but you'd have to basically live under a rock to escape it. Most media is basically just softcore porn at this point. You can't even read fiction without coming a cross some forced romance and sex scenes.
However, I contend that there is absolutely nothing wrong with horse booty. Eat a dick, OP, and not a horse dick, but a big bear dick or some other nasty shit like that.
>>29432314
It doesn't work like that. It never has and it never will. I'm going to try suffocation. I tried it once before but pussied out before anything could happen. But I'm motivated now and ready.
It's not my ideal suicide, but it works. I would love it if I could beat myself to death, like when Alex cripples the author in A Clockwork Orange.
>>29431353
>matriarchal society
>matriarchal
>society
Absolute kek
>>29431826
I doubt all men are like that, some probably would genuinely cherish their gf but ive just had so many bad experiences with them i gave up. Im aware cancer on this board doesnt help but ive already accepted being a virgin forever, long ago.
fast example:
>guy from my class a few yrs back
>get the feeling hes into me, we both like same video games and i try to talk to him about it and see what hes like.
After few weeks:
>"hey i saw your tits through your shirt once hue hue youre hot pls be my gf"
>later find out from his ex gf he watches and constantly talks about hentai
Typical example of porn ruining men
I mean he actually thought i'd be happy or turned on by a comment on something like that?
>>29432210
Welcome to the real world famygdala
>>29432371
>It doesn't work like that. It never has and it never will
Just fap more.
Or become addicted to something, doesn't matter what it is. Fapping is just the least costly.
>>29432409
>getting upset that men are blunt
Is this what female autism looks like?
>>29432409
No one cares, off yourself /v/ermin
>Instead of working like mad to make themselves respectable relationship material
>Instead of working like mad
>working like mad
top kek, kys
>>29429929
>borderline fast a /b/
Not even close. 9 months since the Mercer shooting (http://archive.is/CGsey) /r9k/ only grew by around 7 million posts whereas /b/ grew by 24 million since their 666666666 get at the start of February (http://imgur.com/LZW6wng) which is around 5 months ago. That puts /b/ at around 6 times the speed of /r9k/. Even boards like /vg/ and /v/ outpace /r9k/ significantly so I don't get how you come to the conclusion that /r9k/'s almost as fast as /b/.
>>29432446
Youre right anon, i really shouldnt expect much from a creature that thinks with only its genitals, thanks for reminding me. :^)
I have no issue with my bf watching porn. Infact growing up I kinda watch with my brother.
>all these sexist tinydicked wh*te males
*siiiiigh*
>>29432546
Nah, we are just brought up this way.
I would pat that guy you spoke of on the back, fuck bitches make money.
I don't invest more than one conversation/ 8 messages on a woman unless sex is guaranteed.
You need to learn that sex is an integral part of keeping a man under control. I take women to dinner because I want that ass, not because I want to hear them blather.
Approaching 30 and having grown up with internet porn always available, and having been in LTR's, you do eventually become conscious of these things, and porn's effects on you
I don't think that there is anything wrong with porn use in moderation per se, but you should be conscious of your use patterns. I do find it troubling that after years of dating and living with partners and therefore hundreds of real sexual experiences, the majority of my "experience" is virtual and mediated by pornography.
If one is conscious of one's use it can be used responsibly. Part of the problem is just the fact that having high-quality streaming porn for free in everyone's homes 24/7 is so new, there hasn't been any such societal conversation. When you had to go to the adult video store and buy/rent porno it probably encouraged healthier use patterns. But just using your imagination is still probably the healthiest.
Pervasive porn is really just another aspect of the "spectacle," a general retreat from mutual participation into passive spectation. Just think, at one point in history to get access to tits it was unavoidably necessary to either actually talk to girls or create/share original erotic art in person with other human beings.
>>29427535
It's out though. Are you well anon?
>>29431526
>heck
i honestly can't get enough of this meme thank u
>>29427484
ITT WOMEN GETTING BTFO
fuck off op
>>29427484
Anyone who blames porn for their shitty relationship is retarded. People act as if women don't watch porn as well
Seeing women getting fucked hard by black guys and cumming, I knew that I couldn't compete as a white man. All women want black men to fuck them and impregnate them. White women chose black men every time. Even the women here chose black men. White men have grown up watching white women getting pleased by black men an have learned that they are worthless and that nobody wants them.
>>29432672
women don't watch porn though. they read erotic stories or fantasize about being raped when they want to get off
>>29427717
typical cunt attitude
>I don't want to compete but I want dozens of betas competing for axe wound
hope you get hit by a bus, cunt
>>29432677
>0,50$ has been deposited into your account
>t. hershel goyimberg
>>29432677
>not making the jump that if black men are all busy fucking whites then black women must feel neglected
Wew you are a slow one. Get some jungle on your dick.
>>29432688
I wanna say that you're wrong but I do both on top of watching porn, so you got me there, anon
>>29432710
Another day, another dollar tbqh my senpai
>>29432714
No, black women hate white men. White men are seen as big fucking losers that no woman wants. There's a reason why 40% of young white men are virgins and 90% of adult virgins are white men.
>>29432688
>fantasize about being raped
But when the guy who gives her everything wants to cum on her face he's a depraved porn addict
>>29432741
>black women hate white men
I grew up in South Africa, and this is the biggest pile of shit I have ever seen.
Black women love white men if they are not genuinely retarded, much easier than white women (hence why white women are so sought after)
>>29432840
Nope, black women hate white men, as do all women. White men are seen as beta loser faggots. Just look at OP. She crying about how shit white men are. Well, who do you think she's dating? Tyrone and his crew, that's why she's crying about having to do porn acts during sex, she does interracial every day as well as gangbangs and cuck.
White men are worse than dirt covered in shit in today's world. It's why you see millions of white women post how much they love black men, how they all twerk for black men, and why they all vote for increased immigration.
>>29432840
>genuinely replying to cuckposting
>>29432898
>>29432903
My bad, I didn't even realise you were pretending to be retarded.
Enjoy an early death by your own hand.
>>29432903
>dating sites
>where roasted Stacie's look for beta losers to get beta bux
>self-reported stats
Listen to me, ALL young women today date and fuck interracially. Deal with it.
>>29432935
>you be retarded
No u
What's wrong, can't argue and prove women don't want black men?
>>29432903
>not posting the whole thing
>>29432971
>MUH DICK MUH DICK
>S-STATISTICS ARE MEANINGLESS WHITE BOI
>le porn ruined men
No, feminism is the reason porn is so popular.
Back in the day, everyone was getting gf's, even the ugly nerds, and they went on to make babies, higher paying jobs, schools, etc
But feminism gave women high expectations and now only 20% of men get 80% of women.
So 80% have to fight it out for 20% of women.
Fuck that
That's why we made porn to satisfy our desires that females failed to provide us with.
You chose this grave
If porn was unavailable and women remain this uppity, it's gonna reach India levels of rape.
>>29433009
>"statistics"
Anon, statistics imply factual data. There's nothing factual about online dating sites and self-reported surveys. Just accept that white women have chosen blacks, Hispanics, and Arabs and that white men are not wanted by anyone. The vast majority of people on /r9k/ are white men.
>>29433042
>LET ME CONTRADICT YOUR STATISTICS WITH MY OPINIONS
ayylmao
also
>implying all the polling data came from online dating sites
>>29428801
Yeah, fuck you roastie
Post tits and stop talking
Yeah this is bullshit. The real reasons why porn is so popular:
1. The end of monogamy: Chad is hogging the hottest chicks and even the normal ones, so more and more Average Joes only have fatties and uggos to choose from which is shit and you might not even be able to get it up for them.
2. Feminism: Makes it harder to chat up girls without being accused of sexual harassment especially if you're not Chad, makes it easier for you to be accused of rape and shit if she changes her mind and that can ruin your life
3. No-fault divorce: Related to the above. Your wife can take you to the cleaners. Also, more single women are divorced which men don't like.
4. Age of consent: Also related to feminism obviously, it means that in a lot of countries sweet sixteen gets you sixteen years in jail. Not a dealbreaker obviously, but historically it was what really sweetened the deal of getting hitched. Guys like girls, and older women hated it and made it illegal.
5. Prostitution: Also related to feminism, women made it illegal for incredibly obvious reasons. Easy no strings attached sex is not something women like men having access to.
At the end of the day it all leads to lots of guys jacking it instead of having sexy times. Marriage is shit because feminists, hot younger chicks are illegal, prostitution is too, and meeting random women at clubs or bars is a great way to get a false rape accusation from some crazy broad.
tl;dr modern life sucks you already knew that tho
>>29433068
>polling data
>polling
>data
>pata
>dolling
Do you understand that a poll is not factual and holds no meaning in finding out the truth about dating statistics and sex? When was the last time you went to school? ALL white women were involved with blacks, either the school atheletes(all black because they are stronger and faster than whites) or they are fucking the random tough guy Tyrone's and drug dealing Jamal. Just accept that white women prefer black and Hispanic men. While no woman wants a white guy. Every other woman prefers men of their own race.
The real problem we should worry about is Virtual Reality. VR porn and robot gfs will be the downfall of society.
Why do men build tall building and become rich or well versed in auto mechanics? They do it for a shot at pussy. Even "nice guys" do the same, they act nice to women because they want a chance at getting in their pants. That shot at pussy is why we have all the nice things we have today.
I like having a safer alternative to real sex.
Men's standards:
>don't be fat
>don't be old
>don't be too promiscuous
Sexual acts requested
>suck my peepee as foreplay
>maybe you could dress up in a lacey babydoll or teddy
>maybe if we're feeling kinky there can be spankings or a finger goes near the anus
Porn induced ed is not a thing. Ed is higher now but that's because of obese and diabetic population increasing. They have fucked up circulation and aren't the ones fucking anyway so their impotence goes unnoticed.
Rather than ban porn I think me should focus on reigning in female better. If not outright banning immodest dress and instituting curfews or requiring escorts we could at least change social attitudes towards rape. If a girl was not sober, around someone who would hurt her, or dressed immodestly she deserved it. Now we get the desired female behavior without legal intervention.
I try to do my part but there's only so much a guy can do. I still have to navigate the social waters so I can't exactly stand on street corners and shout an loose women or loudly proclaim all women deserve rape. I eyefuck slutty women making it obvious I'm staring and make offhand comments about so and so's inappropriate blouse. You get a lot more leeway framing it as a professionalism issue instead of sexual. I don't know why because the office is not a mating ground and we all know thats why I don't want Stacie's tits flopping around. Same thing different perception, whatever, it's good so long as I get the desired results.
>>29433135
>poll is non-factual
Wew lad, this meme is too hot for this site. Please take it elsewhere.
of course not.
porn is not the problem is just the symptom.
if i could wank instead of failing to chase pussy what i would do? chasing whores and trowing money at them? porn only ruins whores bankroll.
society needs to change women soo they stop to be whores.
i will not change my ways just to get hurt all fuking day.
porn is a god's send and i hope most guys find that shit.
in a few years we will have far more adult virgins and far more single mothers.
chad is the only one winning.
>>29427484
People who whine about porn making guys unable to have real relationships have cause and effect reversed.
I'm not a loser with no girlfriend because I watch a lot of porn, I watch a lot of porn because I'm a loser with no girlfriend.
>>29432210
>When women just go to the bar so they can have men buy them drinks and not pay them back in any way at all
When a co-worker mentioned it to me I felt disgusted, though on the other hand she never swindled me out of my money.
>>29433011
This.
I'd rather lose my virginity and fuck a girl but I see no point in putting in so much work and money just to satisfy one of my basic needs. I can do it by myself with my hand really easy and without effort or money.
Why would I ever chase a woman that sets high standards and costs money when I got loads of porn on the internet which I can use. I will continue to masturbate until women actually come down from their high pedestal and meet reality. Sex should be a mutual service and not something that the man provides to the woman, fuck. Porn is mostly necessary to men since women can't/won't provide the satisfaction and it will stay that way until either some faggot bans it or women come down to earth.
>>29427484
If porn wasn't available, men would be as rowdy as they were in a few decades back.
>>29427717
>my bf keeps watching porn
>don't really want to deal with broken dick-syndrome
I hope this isn't bait. Maybe you're not satisfying him in the first place?
Porn is what saves men from the roastie plague. Imagine how desperate for sex the world would be if porn weren't legal? The price of pussy would become exorbitant, even more so than it is now. So many men would get married and divorceraped that society would just collapse. Crime, especially rape would shoot through the roof.
If anything what we need is sex bots and more VR porn to further even the sexual market and force women to contribute to relationships once again.
>>29430518
I am literally terrified of being nice to women on campus. I NEED to work to FUCKING EAT, while rich shits and roasties get mommy and daddy bucks. I NEED to live in my apartment in order to attend school, while rich shits and roasties have cars and have enough money to live anywhere.
If I had one accusation against me, from someone in or nearby my on-campus apartment complex, I could get fired from my job, kicked out of my apartment, and not be able to attend uni. I hate how my entire life could be ruined by one insinuation. Not even an accusation, just an insinuation that I did something inappropriate gives Chad and Tyrone a free pass to beat the shit out of you.
In high school I literally was accused of planning a school shooting, and after they searched me, the school decided to kick me out until further notice. I had a meltdown of depression and went to the hospital because I had been bullied my whole life and now I was getting ostracized AGAIN for no reason by fucking authorities. I can never trust anyone, and I seriously want to choke people to death whenever they expect me to just buy into their lies about how bad things don't happen to good people.
the EDs probably the worst part, I think a lot of guys understand that people in porn aren't accurate portrayals of women irl, plus sex with someone you love is a wholly different experience than jacking it to porn. however, sex does require an erect penis and ED is pretty cumbersome
