https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
People were happier. Everyone was better off
This is the way things should be
>>29416156
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL9FnYo7jlc
>>29416156
I think I want to restore society to a good status quo instead of this degenerate NEET and SJW shit.
You're stupid if you honestly believe any time period was better than the current. Really, the only period that may have had a higher percentage of happy/wealthy population was the 50s/60s, and that's really only if you're a middle class white male.
This is like having nostalgia for something you didn't even experience.
>>29416318
Obviously we're better off today in terms of production and technology
I'm saying in terms of society.
at the very least, we need to bring back trams and interurbans
>>29416156
Too late for that now anon, too many niggers and muslims in western countries. It will only go downhill from here
its just not in the cards m8
>>29416346
That's what I mean. In every decade they're has still been an elite class that looks down on everyone else. There have still been sects of society living in poverty. They're has still been those that have less rights than others. Wars, famine, social issues and stress, etc...
Name any year and in recent history and its bound to have almost all of those things
>>29416156
>tfw ywn be an alienated lonely young man in a European capital during the turn of the 20th century drinking absinthe, living in a single rented room, walking the streets at night and writing modernist poetry.
Just kill me desu, this is too much to bear.
>be poor and work a shitty job
>no real freedom
>if you make it until 1914, you go die for the Kaiser
>if you survive the war, there's a good chance you've been shot/bayoneted/gassed
>probably die from influenza as soon as you get home
Yeah, I'm so jealous.
>>29416501
You can do this right now if you're young, attractive, and rich, just like then. Are you though?
>>29416501
People still do this, it's just cheap shitty liquor instead of absinthe. Or heroin.
>>29416410
Watch the video again
Look at the people. Look at their faces
The children playing freely in the street
The mothers walking with their children while their husbands are at work
The men enjoying a beer together after work
The businessmen, the policemen, the bus drivers
The fancy hats, coats, and uniforms, everyone looks respectable
The elaborate architecture
One thing that really sticks out is the children, children, children everywhere. You just don't see that today, unless you're talking about POC
This is a real nation.
This is the way things are supposed to be
>>29416156
>People were happier. Everyone was better off
>This is the way things should be
Not sure about that senpai. But one thing I'm pretty sure of, they had social skills far superior to ours.
>berlin
>before hitler
>good
its was a shithole
>>29416561
Oh fuck off.
You're like a pig rolling in your own shit.
You just feel that way. It's all self indulgent feelings and misplaced nostalgia. I don't want my entire life to boil down to laying railroad tracks for exploitative pay via the elite class with my only pleasure being drinking cheap swill on some street corner with my barely educated friends wearing my only jacket that I spent 2 month salary on.
This is you projection your feels on history to create false ideals in the same way you probably do to slutty roasties.
Times were and always will be shit for proles but atleast now we have better tools to attempt to escape poverty.
>>29416561
>One thing that really sticks out is the children, children, children everywhere. You just don't see that today, unless you're talking about POC
What are you talking about? I see children wherever I go. Do you live in the 'burbs or something? Here in small town Vermont, kids are all over the place.
>>29416684
>I don't want to do the work myself I want chinese sweatshop workers to do it
how is this more moral
>>29416561
>romanticizing an era you have little knowledge of
>one video is enough factual proof to convince you that's how things should be
>something about children
K.
>>29416730
I don't see that in my post.
>>29416156
>way better off
>ww1
>>29416156
with tons of horse shits on the street?
>>29416684
People grew to be full adults then. No arrested development.
No manchildren walking around with slobby shirts
It sure doesn't look like poverty to me, it looks like a rather content, safe environment.
People could actually raise multiple kids
>>29416834
>No manchildren walking around with slobby shirts
except 95% of officers in ww1 were manchildren
ps you don't notice how sloppy a lot of these outfits are because you aren't used to them and don't know a lot about clothes generally
>>29416834
People shat out kids because it provided capital for the household and when you were that poor you only had access to some very basic ways of self actualization like having a child, doesn't matter if you could afford it or not because the hope was they'd be required to take care of you later.
>Full adults
entirely subjective
some guys, like it was said above, spent their days writing edgy poetry and taking drugs and were considered adults, some lifted heavy objects for a lifetime and were considered adults, 14 year olds in the trenches were considered 'adults'.
Dumb shit like that tends to be a state mandated badge of honour for whatever horseshit they want you to slave or die for.
I seriously hope no one in here is going to start talking about how glorious it must've been to be in world war 1 because then we've gone full circle retarded.
>>29416684
Don't kid yourself. If you work for any sort of organization - any entity that has direct control over your salary and livelihood - you are still a serf. Your 'education' probably isn't all that well rounded or extensive either. In many ways, you're just the same as the man who spent two months salary on his work coat; the variables may have altered slightly, but societal parameters remain largely the same. At least they had social cohesion, community and family back then. What do you have but the opiate glare of the bright screen after you clock off in the early evening only to get back on the treadmill the next morning? And it's gradually getting harder than ever to move up the social ladder and become a self made individual.
>>29416684
So you're just fucking lazy then.
>Don't wanna get my water from the well
>Pump it full of flouride and estrogen please
>>29416879
At least people actually wore clothes back then, instead of neglecting to do so because "muh comfort"
>>29416967
>At least they had social cohesion, community and family back then
Entirely subjective to your personal preference in community. I have these things and grew up in a community that tended to have these things, you might not.
>If you work for any sort of organization - any entity that has direct control over your salary and livelihood - you are still a serf. Your 'education' probably isn't all that well rounded or extensive either.
I don't disagree.
But I made a valid point regarding the serfs access to new, modern tools that allow a higher degree of social and economic mobility compared to back then.
>getting harder than ever to move up the social ladder and become a self made individual.
It's now done differently, but easier than it was.
Big nuclear families and a heavily social environment with nobody staring at their phones, women were normal like in Asia now and it felt like home. Fuck you crab in the bucket failed normies go pretend to be anarchists somewhere else
>>29417178
People are actually walking around, talking to each other, being social
You take a stroll through your average suburban neighborhood these days it's like a ghost town. All you see is the blue glow of the computer screen coming through the window
>>29417308
>your average suburban neighborhood these days
Well there's your problem. Get the hell out of the suburbs.
>>29416346
Everyone here would probably be lobotomised or lynched
>>29417336
And go to the cities?
M8 I'm an American, in the US the cities are all hellholes with African-level crime rates.
Basically giant welfare plantations for third worlders who pull the lever D
Unless you're saying go out to the country, but then you're just isolated on a little run down farm somewhere in hoboken. It can be nice I suppose, maybe some day.
>>29416561
Because the children didn't go you school.
>>29417402
>hoboken
Nigger Hoboken is a city in New Jersey right near NYC.
Anyway, you could go to a small town, or a small city which isn't crime infested. Yes, they exist, you just need a modicum of intelligence to identify them.
>>29416156
>Idealistic painting
also
>not realizing that that street still exists today probably and looks more or less the same except for cars now
>>29417402
Holy shit you've literally never left the suburbs have you?
>>29417402
>but then you're just isolated on a little run down farm somewhere in hoboken. It can be nice I suppose, maybe some day.
I grew up isolated on a little run down farm somewhere in Herington, a small town in Kansas.
It's not nice. Don't do it.
Also this romanticization of the past is retarded. LIke the other anon said, you're projecting your feelings of it rather than being objective.
I kinda did the same thing with the 30's for a while, though, so I know how you feel.
>>29416156
>Why can't society go back to this?
Niggers, Muslims, and faggots.
>>29417581
That other anon is a marxist idiot with his head up his ass, his opinion isn't worth a can of beans
>tfw the future actually looks like it might get better
First time in my life I have ever felt this way
>>29417581
Anything is better than where were heading, if you're white anyway
>>29416156
>implying y'all robots won't be slaving away in a shitty factory and eventually die of lung diseases from the soot
>>29417634
Try travelling internationally. I was worried about the future until I did that.
Then you realize that what you think is the end of the world is generally pretty localized. Or at least only affects things on the national level.
>>29416156
This retarded ass AMERICAN fucking thread again.
Listen HERE, you fat little FUCK.
AMERICA IS FUCKING SHIT.
Fuck off.
Quit shitting up the Board with your country's shitty ass.
Lol, fuck America.
In Canada, we don't shove our shit down everybody else's throats on a daily basis.
Ha, you fat fucks probably shovel lard by the bucket load down your fat gullets.
I think you retarded fucks constantly push for this kind of stupid shit because you don't want to admit that CANADA and EUROPE are better than you.
Lol, didn't you guys have a shooting just a few days ago?
Hahah, stupid fat fuck Americans getting kill and bled out on the streets like the pigs you are.
Hahaha, literally the most refreshing thought in my mind. Dead Americans.
You people are bred and reviled everywhere, unlike us, where Europe admires us for upholding the superior ways of socialism, and dealing with your bull shit on a daily basis.
Canada is much better than your """"""country""""""" will ever be, and always will be?
Who has FREE healthcare?
That's right, CANADA.
Who has a better standard of living?
That's right, CANADA.
Who's people are happier and can walk around without fearing for their lives?
That's right, CANADA.
Who's country has hotter women?
That's right, CANADA.
American women are sluts, plain and simply. They are shat out by their pig ass mothers and go around spending the first 12 years of they're lives fucking everywhere and everything, before becoming porkers.
All of your mothers are FAT COWS.
Listen here you STUPID fucks, this show is dog shit because it caters the the weak minded AMERICAN
Literally fuck off the end of my BIG. CANADIAN. DICK.
Suck my syrup, fags.
Honestly, fuck America and ALL of the Americans readings this comment.
>>29417308
>implying you won't fail horribly in a society like that because of your poor social skills
The internet is the only safe haven for robots, don't refuse its calling.
>>29417726
This.
>People are actually walking around, talking to each other, being social
>people post on /r9k/ about how they have to take half an hour working up the courage to call in a pizza delivery
>>29417308
>People are actually walking around, talking to each other, being social
That's only because of capitalism. Now you have to pay to be social, and only with a select small group.
Capitalism killed the public space - the market, the square, the forum. Now that everything is private, people have no way to assemble and socialize anymore, socialization has been stolen from the commons, segmented into bits, repackaged and sold back to them at a heavy markup.
Where can you just "go outside" anymore and have a social experience? Nowhere. You have to go outside, and then go inside into someone else's space, paying for the privilege in some way or the other.
>>29417625
>I'm a marxist.
You couldn't be more wrong about my political beliefs.
I'm just with reality and not some middleclass suburb dweller waxing poetic about his emotional projections.
>>29417762
I don't disagree
I've evolved my views a lot.
There is a place for the market. But you need a strong social structure underpinning things, capitalism works against that.
I look at old videos and books and see the way things used to be, and all I feel is sadness
>>29416922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nRTF2SowQ
Great War looks pretty swell m8
Don't worry, we willwhen society completely collapsesif there isn't a nuclear war to wipe us all out
>>29416156
Notice the stark lack colored people. Western cities were the greatest places on earth until the import and acceptance of the non-integrated black and brown hoards.
You could possibly catch a whiff of this high trust society by visiting hipster villages. My uncle lives in Austin TX and it's amazing how high trust a place gets once it becomes segregated again. He knows almost all of the people in his neighborhood, they hang out, help each other, everyone is just really friendly. As much as I fundamentally disagree with leftists, their societal constructs in practice are the best we have right now. There's a lot of tokenism, but an art show or music festival there is the whitest and most inviting thing i've experienced.
Even if you're an autist like me you're still able to speak with and be around people. Like they want to talk to you and around you. It's super comfy. There would probably be much fewer robots if we all grew up in our proper demographics.
>>29416318
>white male
Best way to show your opinion isn't worth the words that express it.
>>29418333
>Talking about certain people that you don't like to be talked about invalidates your entire opinion
>>29418385
If you think middle class white women were oppressed in that time you're a moron that buys into propaganda.
Simple as that.
>>29417762
>implying the internet isn't the new public square
>implying we aren't more social if you count the internet
>implying capitalism ruined us instead of decreasing poverty worldwide to a point that more people are dying from being lardasses than starving
Really anon? I thought you'd be smarter than that.
>>29418433
I don't know much about that time period but women weren't able to vote in america until the 1920s so I'm assuming they didn't have the best rights. Also I wasn't talking about that, I was saying it's autistic to say an entire argument is wrong because it talks about white males.
>>29416156
>Everyone was better off
Yeah, provided you weren't in the bottom 90% of the population.
>>29418498
Letting women vote is one of the biggest mistakes in American history.
>>29416684
This is a great and intelligent post, no wonder it's getting shit on.
>>29418272
It's still cultural. I live in an entirely white suburban area of the UK and it's pretty rare these days to even talk to your neighbour, let alone other people down your street.
>>29418567
I'm sure some autistic NEET on r9k is better qualified to vote than 50% of the population
OP you are absolutely right dont let some progressive liberal act like things were hell back then and science saved us
they had longer lifespans than us if they got past birth
and they were smarter... average person today is a retard
>>29416684
I almost hate to say it, but this guy's right. The main difference is that now, values are slack and community is fearful and largely dead. It's a trade-off, I guess.
>>29418638
Roasty starting to get toasty
>>29418638
The average woman is about as parasitic as autistic /r9k/ NEETs and a lot dumber.
Not to mention there are a hell of a lot more of them.
>>29418705
It's ok anon, stacey was a stupid slut anyways
>>29418616
You're right. The problem most people have is that they live in a corporate/suburban culture, which doesn't cater at all to anyone's sensibilities because it's so detached from the individual. It's a contrived imitation of culture. People need to take control of their surroundings like hipsters do.
>>29418498
Women only care about acting in a way that is socially acceptable and won't brand them as weird.
Not voting or being involved in politics or "manly affairs" was considered normal back then for women, so they were perfectly content in sticking within their own socially accepted roles of housewife and child bearer.
It's only because of feminism brainwashing women into thinking it's normal for women to act masculine that women are now concerned with masculine affairs.
And women's suffrage has actually been a complete disaster for Western civilization. We wouldn't be where we are now with leftist controlled governments and suicidal policies if it weren't for women being able to vote.
Women's minds are very easy to manipulate and they don't have the "protector" instinct that men have, so any policies that allow unlimited mass immigration (which is suicidal for any 1st world country) can only succeed with the help of women voters who were brainwashed into going along with it.
>>29418493
You have no idea what I'm talking about, and if you did, you'd realize that the internet functions in the exact same way at this point.
>>29416517
this should have been /thread tee bee aitche
really cuts to the heart of the matter
>>29416156
>People were happier. Everyone was better off
>This is the way things should be
Because it wasn't actually like that. The small affluent class was supported by a brutally exploited and impoverished working class, domestic and colonial. Even the affluent probably weren't idyllically happy. Who is?
>>29418849
Eh fair point, but what's the point of caring? I mean I'm fine with how social situations are right now and I really don't give a shit. I suppose I'm just an antisocial bastard of sorts but I don't really understand why all of you are so up in arms about this....
>>29418923
Don't forget if you managed to live for another 14 years you'd be stuck in the trenches fighting a stupid meme war that could've never happened.
>>29418732
Agreed. Suburbs isn't catered to community in the slightest. It's just neat-looking rows of secluded houses with bits of nature here and there as if it can act as a replacement for the community division. There's literally no communal areas in suburban areas outside of driving distance, so you might as well be living in a rural area, unless you miss the faux community of walking past people in the streets.
>>29418923
You could say the same about modern China, or any country going through industrialization.
The question isn't about whether or not we were wealthier, it's whether or not the society was better. And it was.
The institutions of marriage and family were strong.
Traditions bound communities together
There were tight codes of conduct and morality
No "diversity"
In these respects it was much better
>>29419113
>The institutions of marriage and family were strong.
>Traditions bound communities together
>There were tight codes of conduct and morality
>No "diversity"
These things would apply to modern China as much as they did to Victorian/Edwardian era in the West. Is modern Chinese society superior then?
I went and changed the filename to be a year off just so I'd be able to mention it in an original comment.
>>29419542
Some things are better, some are worse.
pros:
>18% of people wealth enough to have servants
>almost no murder
cons
>men die at 47 of stupid shit like pneumonia
>heroin use rampant
>>29419542
>poor people can't enter the country
>bad
Pick one
>>29419620
>>heroin use rampant
is that a con tho?
>>29417406
it's inefficient to try and educate everyone
well-managed child labor is better for everyone, including the children
>>29417687
>try travelling internationally
You mean to racially homogeneous Asian countries with a healthy amount of nationalism and patriarchy and almost no immigrants?
>>29419861
>racially homogeneous Asian countries
I never said that; you did.
>>29419542
>the average life expectancy for men was 47 years
does this count world war i deaths? more importantly, does quantity = quality?
>wages were lower and things were cheaper
it's called inflation
>most women only washed their hair once a month
hot desu
the diseases killing everyone are the only real issue
>>29420027
>>29419710
I'm not really trying to make any point with this image, except for
>>29419620
>Some things are better, some are worse.
>>29419891
those are the only countries that aren't dirtier and more dangerous than white countries
except maybe for very rural and isolated parts of africa and the middle east
