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Calling all britbongs!
Which side will you be taking on June 23rd? To remain or to leave?

I personally will be voting to leave because I hate that this country has to be cucked to the sum of 15bn a year by the big-wigs in Brussels.
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>>29373175

I've been out leafleting with Vote Leave last week. Look forward to doing so next week too.
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>>29373259
Good to hear familioso.
Thanks for the (You) as well.
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>>29373510

There is a cunt in Stratford-upon-Avon with a massive EU flag hanging off his front wall, but otherwise there are about 50 houses with VoteLeave posters in the window
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>>29373175

Voting out because huskies
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>>29373175
#RemainforJo #VoteRemain
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>>29373175
Vote stay. Vote leave can be summed up in:
>not understanding economics, politics, diplomacy or anything in the modern world.
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>>29373588

>He is a Eurocuck
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>>29373607
You have made a compelling argument and have changed my mind on the matter.
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Vote remain because
>Muh immigration
Isn't a good enough reason to fuck up my home forever.
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>>29373588
Vote leave can be summarised in not understanding economics or immigration

>muh 4 gorillion pounds lost if we leave
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>>29373175
Damn if you do, damn if you don't aren't you boy?. Personally when I heard the EU model of push it until they take it (because they are going to take it like it or nor)I shivered a little, then again that's Germany.
Whatever you vote you have the rest of Europe and the world watching, other country's would be having tensions through the foof
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Voting leave.
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Personally I want to be part of far-right European superstate so I vote remain.
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Not even a bong, but do pay a visit to a brit/pol/ thread. They have some good links to information that will clarify the case for leaving.
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As someone uneducated in UK politics, what are reasons for and against leaving the EU?
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>>29373175
You do realise that if you leave your economy will be the most impacted.
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>>29373635

Why would you want to stay in the EU? Norway and Switzerland do just fine
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>>29373175
I'm voting remain because I don't want anything to threaten my neetucks
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>>29373847

Who the fuck even cares if the gdp shrinks by 2%
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>he wants to pay an unelected european "union" to sell europe to the highest bidder
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>>29373847
yeah in the short term, but in the long run it'll be a lot more economically secure without 25bil in payments to the EU every year and all the ridiculous regulations they impose on britain
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>>29373817
>European superstate
>far-right

the time has come and gone
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>>29373854

If the UK were reduced to the economic relevance of Norway and Switzerland overnight the results would be disasterous
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>>29373175
I think it's interesting how populists manage to make people believe that what they are acting in their best interest.
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>>29373949
Switzerland being one of the richest and best countries on the planet with an average wage twice what it is in the uk?
Yeah sure sounds like that will suck.
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>>29374012
so how do you expect to get into such a position by leaving the EU?
Switzerland didn't reach this status overnight you know
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>>29373840
Remain - Stability. Free trade with Europe. Freedom of movement for Uk citizens in Europe
Leave - Uncertainty. No EU immigration, National sovereignty. No EU membership fee
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>>29373949
Are you doing that on purpose?
Why would the UK become less relevant? do you even know how much shit Germany buys from us?
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Just vote leaving

This EUdSSR must die.
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>>29374012
Switzerland is the Jew of Europe
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>>29373175
Leave. Only reasonable choice. Kinda pissed my retarded little sister is going to cancel out my vote but it can't be helped.

>inb4 do her
She's 23. Too old.
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>>29374034

they, like every other country, would stop buying from us if we left
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>>29373175
Less European business owners = less jobs = higher unemployment rate = lower salaries as people will work for less just to get a job.
I'd vote for leaving if I was British though, the faster a "fall of Rome" type situation happens the better. Who knows, it might happen when I'm alive.
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>>29374034
do you understand how tariffs impacts the market?
I don't need to tell you about Colbert do I?
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the worst thing about the remain campaign is the faggots who say shit like "you can work anywhere in the EU!" as if they or anyone they know would do that
these people probably can't speak another language, but god forbid we loose the option to work in other countries that no significant amount of British citizens utilise
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>>29373893
>>29373893
>Ridiculous regulations

Yeah, our clothes should be highly flammable! And fuck minimum wage, or human rights!
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>>29374032
>EU
>Stability
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>>29374128
certainly more stability than leaving
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>>29374031
Deregulation of business and removal of tariffs to outside countries.

EU is a drain and a failed communist project
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>>29374114
Had those before we joined.
What we don't need are bans on common household appliances, port and fishing regulations that FUCK us, or TIPP allowing the united states to sue the nhs.
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>>29374157
how is it communist?
please explain
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>>29374144
>my head is stuck in this blender but if i try to pull it out it might turn on, i suppose i'll just leave it in here to be safe
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>>29374075
No uncontrolled migration = more jobs = lower unemployment rate = higher salaries as people don't have to work for less just to get a job.
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>>29374183
can someone explain this uncontrolled migration meme please
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>>29374173
idiots call everything communist
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>>29374159
>He doesn't know that the minimum wage was introduced in 1998
>He doesn't realise that David Cameron voted against it

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>>29374128
Nobody has ever left the EU before so nobody knows what will happen if the UK actually does.
Any change to the status quo will cause instability, even if it's positive in the long term
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>>29373175
>Britain : We're friends, America, right? We're just like you!
>U.S. : Uh.. Yeah, sure.

stop saying "We're not like the other European countries". Yes you are. stop being weeaboos for america.
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>>29373588
>Being forced to take strict regulations and destroy your social stability with quotas for refugees that your law enforcement has to cover up their rape rigs for because you want to feel "modern"
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>>29374237
What refugee quotas does the EU impose on the UK?
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>>29374183
I guess that's right too, but migration isn't even that high of an issue. The common immigrant won't work a high end job where you need a degree, those will be worked by British citizens, but if there's no positions to be filled in the first place due to lack of actual companies then it doesn't matter.
The grass is never greener on the other side, the only thing leaving will do is cause legal complications for a year and lower the amount of refugees, with enough luck. Unless Britain cucks itself over and accepts refugees willy nilly.
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>>29373175
I'm a bit torn.

I do think Brexit is best. The sovereignty, extra money and immigration control is difficult to argue with.

I just hope it doesn't open a Pandora's box for racism and general xenophobia. I'm black, I had barely ever been racially abused once in my life living in the UK but have been twice in the last week. A lot of the people voting leave will be expecting a drastic change in immigration and demographics, and that's just not going to happen any time soon. So there could be a lot of anger in 5-10 years time if we leave and all the "bloody foreigners" are still around.

Probably going to vote leave, just because it's what I believe in a vacuum, but the slippery slope is a tad concerning. Will just have to hope the extremists are a loud minority.
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>>29374173
>>29374208
Its literally an attempt to create a socialist superstate by destroying the concept of county or individualism. It denies differences in culture and seek to expand indefinitely to create a single government ruled from the top by a few unelected officials.

It is basically a load of USSR apologist thinking that they can just try again. The have even started setting up 'reducation camps'
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>>29374206
Literally anybody who is a citizen of an EU state can at any time come to the UK. Due to EU human rights laws we're not allowed to tell them to fuck off/starve if they refuse to get a job so most of them come here and immediately go on benefits and take up public housing. Meanwhile indigenous people who need those things through no fault of their own struggle to get the same.
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>>29374265
they shouldn't impose any refugee quota at all.
the fact that they do, the fact there are several articles saying how they want to increase it, and even more detailing how there are already more than they are saying in the country; all of this is despicable
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EU is an anti-democratic construct.

It has no political weight outsides of the EU.
There is no political unity within the EU anyways, even when dealing with foreign stuff.

USA has an easier target, must not negociate with each and every state to push through their agenda.

Norway and Switzerland have stayed away from this shit, and rightly so.

EU has turned into a facist bureaucratic monstrosity that is not doing any good for the citizens of any country.
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>>29374216
But we definitely know that the EU is an unstable mess
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>>29373175
>15bn a year
come on...
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>>29374289
you're bigger nut than I thought
go eat some bibles, the shit you will have from it will be still less shit than your argument
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>>29373175
Is it pretty much confirmed that you are leaving by this point? How is people there handling this? I remember here when we kicked the left from power before the election they would do this incredibly passive aggressive thing where they printed out letters with sob stories and left them in everyone's mail boxes begging them not to bot right, pissed off a lot of people
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>>29374305
Can you see how many refugees the UK has agreed to accept under the EU quota system?

Protip: You can't because the UK has opted out of the quota system.
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>>29374348
lol where is the lie retard
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>>29374289
>Its literally an attempt to create a socialist superstate by destroying the concept of county or individualism except it isn't
the core idea of the EU is preserving peace within Europe. and that is working fairly well.

>It denies differences in culture
says who?

>indefinitely to create a single government ruled from the top by a few unelected officials
the individuals are appointed by a parliament which is elected by the citizens of the member states.


>>29374306
wait now it's fascist
make your mind up please
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>>29374306
you are acting as if democracy was a good idea
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>>29374304

Actually most EU immigrants work like dogs for a few years until they've saved up enough money to leave your miserable shithole and live a comfortable life back where they came from
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>>29374304
>>Literally anybody who is a citizen of an EU state can at any time come to the UK
so?
You are acting as if that's a bad thing.

>through no fault of their own
don't defend your filth now.
these people are scum and deserve nothing.
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>>29374386
>the core idea of the EU is preserving peace within Europe. and that is working fairly well.
Thanks to NATO. And of course that whole war the EU started.

>says who?
Says the entire concept of its being by denying borders and pushing immigration

>the individuals are appointed by a parliament which is elected by the citizens of the member states.
That is a total lie. You can in no way claim the EU is democratic
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>>29374386
I am not the one that said it is communism.

Stop your paranoia.

>the core idea of the EU is preserving peace within Europe. and that is working fairly well

And it is slowly but steadily destroying it in the recent times.

>the individuals are appointed by a parliament which is elected by the citizens of the member states.
Kek, indirect election over several corners, how democratic.
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>>29374415
>most EU immigrants work like dogs
HAHHHHHHH

they either fritter it away on alcohol and cigarettes, or pour it into their children, who tend to turn out working class chavs but with eastern european names
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There's really no reason to leave. UK's basically the most important country in Europe, or atleast close, if UK had a genuine issue regarding EU it would be fixed. Leaving is all cons for the sake of seeing less diversity.
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>>29374325
>unsourced piechart
You can already tell this is bullshit by the fact NHS isn't top
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>>29374351
>Is it pretty much confirmed that you are leaving by this point?
Absolutely not. It's very close. I think most are expecting a last-minute surge for remain, because a pro-remain MP was murdered by a far right extremist this week. And what would have been her birthday is the day before the referendum.

>How is people there handling this?
People seem to be more interested in this than anything else politically in recent memory. I don't know many people who are voting leave, or would even consider voting leave, but I'm also surrounded by hivemind early 20s student types. As usual, it's just a lot of accusations of racism thrown at the leave side, with very little by way of discussion or debate. For what it's worth, economic experts seem to be pro-remain, but there are questions of bias based on who has funded most studies.
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>>29373259
Hello Matt, I will be voting leave too. Fuck the EU.
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>>29374467
>UK's basically the most important country in Europe

Nah, that would be Germany and France.
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>>29373588
>le you just don't get it
>le educate yourself shitlord
Honestly I hope the common man hangs you elitists. I would rather have dumb free people than cows ruled by "smart" tyrants.
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>>29374467
>less diversity
"Diversity" means everywhere is a muddy shithole with Starbucks on every corner.
Diversity is the destruction of heritage and indigenous unique cultures.
Diversity is making everywhere the same.
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>>29374437
>Thanks to NATO
no, thanks to the USSR which presented a dangerous enemy to stand against together.

>Says the entire concept of its being by denying borders and pushing immigration
try distinguishing between economy and culture, it'll save you lots of headache.

>You can in no way claim the EU is democratic
You can in no way claim that democracy is a good idea.


>>29374451
>I am not the one that said it is communism.
No, of course not.
But it's interesting to see how warped the perception of the people is, because it shows that the people who are militantly against it don't bother understanding what they're opposing.

>And it is slowly but steadily destroying it in the recent times.
still better than what has been happening before

>Kek, indirect election over several corners, how democratic.
reminds me of the US, a country that prides itself on its democracy.
not to mention that democracy is retarded, simply because most people are filth not worth giving a voice to.

Just look at yourself
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>>29374386
People call communism fascism because communists made the word communism "cool" when it's murdered millions of people and failed every time, which only goes tho show how effective red subversives have been and how dangerous they are.
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>>29374568
let's leave all the killing in the name of all the other fun political ideologies aside and only focus on that one, right?
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>>29374587
What's distinct about communism is that it even fails its own people.

With capitalism at least someone, somewhere is having a good time.
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>>29374610
yes, but it also fails its own people.
It's just lying about it by presenting the relatively few that are wealthy and successful.
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>>29374415
If only. If that was the case then we wouldn't have over a million and growing European immigrants living in the UK. In reality they come here, they spawn dozens of children and they scrounge off of benefits. Typically only the worst of the worst migrate to this country, knowing they will be able to make a living off of committing crime or receiving government aid without much effort. The skilled and valuable remain. They're not quite as bad as the Muslim migrants however, who have a tendency to set up child-rape gangs wherever they go and receive British police protection.
>>29374436
It is, as it encourages people from poorer countries with no skills to come here and take advantage of our taxpayer-funded public services whilst only contributing things we have a surplus in already or contributing literally nothing.

If you lose your job because of your company outsourcing to foreigners then that is no fault of your own.
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>>29374638
At least there are those few and you can have your dream and liberty outside your wagecuckery.

Never understood the appeal of the mass brainwashing/conformity/obedience required under a communist regime. I'd rather be poor and able to think my own thoughts.


Fuck collectivism. It ain't worth it.
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>>29374638
Capitalist democratic states have been the best form of country we've had in modern times.
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>>29374548
>reminds me of the US, a country that prides itself on its democracy. not to mention that democracy is retarded, simply because most people are filth not worth giving a voice to.

Ayyy

You being such a prickish elitist give more than enough reasons for the citizens to vote against staying in the EU.

>still better than what has been happening before

No, at some point not anymore.
This evergrowing bureaucratical monstrosity will only oppress their citizens to ensure a pseudo piece.

As I said, the EU is pathetic regarding its political power and unity in regard to foreign policy, see NSA shit, TTIP, refugees storming the EU.
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>>29374491

As a frenchfag, I would say Germany is.

I have a question for the people who support the "stay" side:

UK didn't adopt Euro and is wary about most european projects, ferociously afraid to lose its independance (and successful with their Commonwealth thing, whereas the "Zone Franc" maintained by France in Africa is a joke), so why do you want to stay in Europe if you don't want to invest yourself fully in it.

It feels like an atheist saying he'll convert to Catholicism only if never having to go the Church.
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>>29374787
>peace not piece
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>>29374789
The Royal Family/Queen should reinstate the monarchy and claim rule of UK, Canada, and Australia.

It would be way better than this slow NWO shit we have going on now.
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Voting leave.
And I'm going to love every second it takes to fill in that ballot.
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I'll vote for whoever gives me the most NEET benefits.
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Everyone should vote leave just to see how they bullshit themselves out of letting you leave.

They're not going to let you leave. You know that, right?

But vote leave anyway. It will be fun to watch.
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>>29374883
If you vote leave it will mean less shitskins claiming benefits and more autismbux for us.
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>>29373859
>>29374883
Clearly, this is important. Can someone figure out which option will positively affect NEET benefits the most?
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Are Americans allowed to vote on this?
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>>29374971
Do you have a British citizenship?
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>>29374983
No I don't. :( is it required?
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>>29375000
Let me ask you this: would you give China the ability to vote on how your country is run?
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>>29375000
Are you currently located in the UK?
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Holy shit, I can't believe how many people are voting leave. You're all ignorant working class scum. Go and suck some more bullshit from Farage's cock, fucking failures. So many people complaining about the unelected and yet I'd bet you worship the Queen. Also, immigration is good for the economy, you idiots, the higher the population, the greater the demand, therefore, more jobs are made to be able to supply. I'm sure it is just xenophobia, I expect nothing less from the filth at the bottom. Vote leave and you'll find shit gets worse for you.
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In Germany, we have senile, wheel-chaired, politician who is giving speeches regularly that actually shows the agenda of the elitists.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSGHD6BXLyM
>>29374926
This is gonna be awesome, if it happens.
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The real outgoing to the EU is more like 8 billion, just over 1% of our average Annual budget. That figure of 350 million a week is designed to catch out retards who think

>COR BLIMEY 350 MILLION SQUIDDLY DIDDLEYS I COULD BUY 175 MILLION SCRATCH CARDS WITH THAT

Without any context it's meaningless.

Immigration will also not decrease with leaving the EU because 1. Visa free travel is a major aspect to trade deals which we will invariable have to re-sign up to and 2. Our economy is shattered and entirely dependent on raw GDP growth caused by the increase in consumerism and the housing bubble from the population growth.

I hate our economy so much, in many ways we're regressing, pricing labour back into the market by agreeing to work for fucking nothing while immigration keeps prices low - perfect for rentiers and big business, but leaving the EU isn't going to do shit, just make us even poorer and more desperate.
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>>29375080
Fuck off eurocuck, most people will be voting leave.
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>>29375042
No I've never been in uk I just want to vote
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>>29375080
>08/15 elitist blabbering

>Also, immigration is good for the economy, you idiots

Wow, such a differentiated standpoint.

>the higher the population, the greater the demand

Such an intelligent statement, it's not like it matters if they could afford it, but demand for food will be surely greater, price for rents, real estates will sky rocket.

So unless you are from either departement, you better believe your own words.
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>>29375162
kek, well I'll be thinking of you when I put pen to paper and vote out on the 23rd.
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>>29375080
Let's not forget that even immigration of qualified people will have its downsides.

Ever heard of brain drain?

The tax payers will pay for it, the one way or the other thanks to solidarity with the other poor EU countries.

All in all it the EU right now is serving more the elitist class more than the average citizen.

See all of the available data of the wealth distribution. The wealthy people become more wealthy why the middle class stagnates at best and the poor become more poor.
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City bloke here.

Yeah we are gonna be fucked by brexit. I dont think people understand what living in a single VAT/duty/regulation zone means in terms of the economy.

The EU is really gonna fuck us over with a smile on its face too just for continuing the massive volumes of every day trade that happens.

Anyone buy anything from Amazon Luxembourg ? You can add up to 20% new tax for at least a year before they can relocate tax jurisdictions. All the multinats are geared up for the EU and its trade agreements, we are gonna end up like Aus paying 120 quid for a PS4 game by the time this done.
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>>29375080
>ignorant working class scum
Do you know what the middle and upper class is generalized by? Lacking real world experience..
Why would it matter if some fags worshipped Elizabeth anyway? The queen is just a figurehead and will remain one, I don't get why you bring that up when she has no power.

Immigration is indeed good, but that doesn't mean you can bring in however much you want. There are limits which have been met and are currently being strained by policies imposed by the EU.
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>>29375273
>buying video games
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>>29375273
Ps4 games come from Japan

All of my jap figs will be 20% because no more shitty EU tariffs
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>>29375031
>Let me ask you this: would you give China the ability to vote on how your country is run?

Let me answer by a question: my country already lets european vote in local election but wants to let immigrants (from outside of EU) vote in local elections too, is it making sense to you?
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>>29375355
Most consumer electronics in the UK is sold cheaper than it is here and many other Eurocuck countries.
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>>29375245

>See all of the available data of the wealth distribution. The wealthy people become more wealthy why the middle class stagnates at best and the poor become more poor.

This isn't really an EU issue, rather a problem with the mechanics of capital gains - wealth creates wealth. We've done a really good job of making it as hard as fucking possible for people without access to capital to generate any meaningful wealth all by ourselves (Higher education tuition fees, reinflating the housing bubble, scrapping student grants etc.).

What always gets me is working class voting for tories, mainly because "Fackin' benefit scroungers innit", feeling hard done by because other people get help. When in reality they're just turkeys voting for christmas. Fucking mental.
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>>29373175
Out. Strange men sitting in Brussels distributing executive power is no basis for a system of government.
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>>29375430
>This isn't really an EU issue

It is, the EU is a bureaucratical construct that has turned into an instrument that panders to the elites to make things easier for themselves, applying pressure aka lobbyism.
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>>29373588
>Maybe people want to leave because of legitimate concerns about the EU government and democratic issues.
>No, it must be because they are stupid.
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>tfw I shill on social media for brexit and I'm not even a britbong
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>>29375471

Can you name examples where you feel the EU has been used by the elites to lobby for their interests, which has directly effected the UK's ability to distribute wealth more equitably? The only times when I see the UK getting properly shafted is when we're doing it to ourselves.
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>>29375665
have you even bothered to watch the brexit documentary or any other documentaries made about the EU and it's workings?? I'm not who you are replying for but you simply seem like someone who listens to the main stream media and take everything they say for granted without looking at any alternative
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>>29374940
You guys aren't even in the quota program though. Canada has taken more migrants than you the past year.
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>>29374610
the government officials that can siphon wealth from the collective are having a good time under communism
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>>29373175
good luck leaving you filthy redcoats

I have no desire to fight in wwiii to free london from the terrorists
eh it could be interesting, better weather than iraq was, and for a better reason.
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>>29373175
remainymainymain, homie
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>>29376026

Are you getting angry simply because I asked someone to qualify their statement?
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>>29374691

we're talking about EU migrants, not commonwealth niggers/pakis.
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for all remain/unsure people of the UK please watch these documentaries, if you really care for our countries future.
If you watch both of these and still feel inclined to vote remain, so be it but at least gain a real balanced look on reasons for in and out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMuUEd6w54E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k
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I'm voting remain because I feel we need the euro super army to fight off the ruskies when they decide to invade.
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>>29377120
the ruskis will save us anon
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>>29377120
>he fell for the le ebil russian meme
also
>what is NATO
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>>29376355
remain, because we can reform.
It's easy to pick apart, difficult to create
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>>29377665
omg are you trolling me senpai??? did you even bother to watch anything? we can't reform, we don't have the power. david cameron even admits it
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>>29377665
you can't reform a system that was broken from the start with only 4% influence, let it crash and burn
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