has anyone ever made a LEGIT arguement against "pedophilia"? i'm using pedo loosely here of course, since we know it's just a made up word by jewish roastie misandrists
>>29343894
What do you mean by "legit argument"?
Like entire volumes of psychological assesment proving that sex abuse fucks up children?
>>29343894
Yes. Minors cannot legally consent.
Not that i fap to loli, it's not my thing, but i don't see anything wrong with it. it keeps peoples urges in check, and hopefully stops them from messing with real people.
Sex before marriage is immoral. Kids can't marry, therefore, it is immoral.
>>29343894
Reimu would beat you up for saying this.
>>29343894
you misspelled.
actually, there is no LEGIT argument "pro pedophilia".
every LEGIT and reasonable argument is against it.
but don't be afraid, Mr. Pedo: in a short while, Illuminati e Jews will make pedolaws for everyone
Faggotry was made acceptable in less than 30 years
You literally fap to Loli so much you try to justify pedophilia.
Why aren't you dead yet?
>>29343894
From the looks of it, not really. I mean, you could assume a "child" couldn't consent or admit to attraction to someone older than them, but that would just be a glorified projection. The same persons consent to plenty of other things on an regular basis. What they dress up in, what social media they participate in, what they put in their mouths, be it poison or food, so again, it seems far-fetched. You could even argue it to be regressive to limit their understanding of something as natural as sexual attraction. Suffering them a "stunted growth" you could say.
every pro-pedo opinion is discarded because
>societal norms
which I'm guessing means it's been discussed over and over and decided that it's wrong. by a lot of people.
it doesn't change the fact that if you are one of the richest people on earth you can 100% get away with it because rules don't apply to those people.
Children do not have the mental capacity to consent. They can't possibly foresee the consequences.
I was raped as a kid, although I agreed once he initiated andenjoyed what did happen,it messed me up for several years afterwards.
Pedo's of today are the homo's of the past
Too bad pedosexuality will not be socially accepted in our lifetime but it'll become as widely accepted as homosexuality in a few generations
It's absolutely disgusting. Even worse than homosexuals and trannies because you are raping a child. I hope you get arrested very soon so you can't be anywhere near children ever again.
>>29344390
ditto, i was molested as a kid and while that particular incident didn't harm me in anyway (maybe), the guy that molested me introduced me to a lot of degenerate things when i was barely 10 years old (porn, sex, 4chan)
so even though the touching didn't hurt me (i barely remember it), the non-direct non-physical pedophilia fucked me up WAY WAY WAY more
>>29344390
>>29344987
>making up stories on a rice a roni glitter board
wew
>>29344390
>Children do not have the mental capacity to consent. They can't possibly foresee the consequences.
Why do people believe this without qualification? It's absurd to say that (all) children have zero ability to understand consequences of any kind, or even specifically the consequences of having sex. Those same people presumably agree that children understand a variety of other consequences (crossing the street, breaking rules, effects of diet, doing chores/jobs) and high level abstract thinking like algebra, but somehow sex is too mysterious and obtuse to be comprehended.
And that's not to mention the implicit assertion that doing something with a kid that they don't understand is inherently harmful, or that the adult doing it is guaranteed to be doing it without considering the interests of the kid.
>>29345623
Well depends on the age of the kid, a fucking 5 year old doesn't know the consequences but a 11 or 12 year old might.
>>29345504
>Thinking everyone makes stuff up
I didn't even know it was rape until recently, as there was no insertion. It did happen, though.
>>29345623
Because sex is more complicated than "if you don't look both ways while crossing the street you'll get hit by a car" and "eat too much and you'll get fat", a child's brain simply can not handle having sex with another person. You'll damage a child's genitalia/anus if you tried to insert it because they're not large enough to accommodate it, it's simply not mean to happendon't pull muh 16 year olds, we're talking about explicit pedophilia. If not physically, mentally, it will take it's toll. It's incredibly common for those who were molested as children to be unable to form proper relationships with the opposite sex, have their sexuality warped, and be unable to have sex because of past trauma. This isn't even touching on STDs, pregnancy (if the kid literally just started puberty), or threats involved. I got lucky and only suffered mentally for a few years after the fact, it's not like that for all or even most people.
>>29345711
To add onto this, an 11 or 12 year old is likely just experiencing the onset of puberty and would be more willing to agree to anything, and not grasp the consequences fully. That's taking advantage of them.
People who defend pedophilia are disgusting and can't understand the sheer amount of damage it does to children.
>B-but not all children
Maybe it's a longshot to say all, but like 99.99999999999999999999% of them, effectively all.
>>29345738
Agreed, of course this board is filled with pedofag degenerates who think life is a shitty loli anime.....
>>29345738
>sex is more complicated than death
no, not even close. we have sex down to a science. death is a huge mystery.
>>29345738
>we're talking explicit pedophilia
what? OP has made it clear we are talking about the jewish meme which could or could not include someone as old as 17 or young as 10
>>29345834
>Being intentionally stupid
If you die, you're dead, we're not talking about the afterlife. Getting hit by a car=death. Kids can't mentally grasp sex, they're not biologically wired to handle it until at least puberty is well underway (and even then I'm fine with the AoC being eighteen, because a few years earlier one is going to be really horny all the time and more liable to make really awful decisions that could screw them over for the rest of their lives).
No kid has trouble understanding that if they get hit by a car speeding down the road they're going to at least be seriously injured. If a child is molested that's going to seriously fuck them up.
>>29345871
He should have said ebhebophilia were that the case
>>29345871
Naw 17 is fine, pedophilia is below 13 or 14. (I say 13 or 14 because that's when puberty occurs in most people and pedo is defined as being attracted to those who haven't reached puberty)
>>29345938
>puberty begins at 13 for most
wrong answer tbqh
what would be correct to say is, "by 13, all kids have already started puberty"
>>29345900
>he should have dumbed it down for me to understand
or maybe you should smarten up since there is no difference between the jewish cancer? either way, you don't know what you're talking about clearly. just a memeguy
>>29346064
Oh alright
This comment is original,
This is one of those rare times that I don't think internet spying by the government is bad. I hope you guys get put on a watchlist for the sake of public safety.
Not really
The problem is, the people who molest children usually don't care about whether they want it or not, they don't get consent and if they do it's under very fucked up circumstances.
Then there are the pedophiles who have no self control and loose or no morals, who are fine with literally manipulating and advantage of them.
Which only leaves a tiny tiny percentage of pedophiles willing to make sure their partner understands what's going on, and isn't taking advantage of them to infect them with STDs or something like that.
>>29346184
>implying politicians won't plant fake data to "expose" their opponents as pedophiles and get them jailed
Really anon?
>>29346236
That has nothing to do with anything I said. I'm saying the people on here admitting to being degenerate pedophiles should be put on a watchlist.
>>29346224
>people who are attracted to children dont care about them
source
>>29346184
of course when people get their feelings hurt by facts and scientific backed data they wish for you yo be jailed or killed
it's very telling really
>>29346249
Yea but the problem with the watchlist is that malicious authorities will exploit it and blackmail people with it. Plus as long as the pedofags don't actually fuck kids I can tolerate it (though they're still shit peopl).
>>29346370
If you ever tried to molest my child I would blast your head off with my Remington.
>>29343894
Yeah, I find out you're a pedophile and I get to kill you.
So I'd say it's in your favor to steer clear, I have some dark fantasies
>>29345711
That's fair. But the problem right now is that fucking a 5yo and fucking a [one month shy of age of consent]yo are essentially treated the same, when they're radically different.
>>29345738
>a child's brain simply can not handle having sex with another person
You're making an assertion without giving any justification. First it was "they can't understand consequences", now it's "well, sex is complicated and kids can't understand THAT". What specifically about sex is too complex for children to grasp?
also "muh meant to" naturalism fallacy. Which isn't even true because (a) an anus can definitely accommodate an adult penis and (b) even if it couldn't, there's still nonpenetrative sex.
>>29346224
>usually
Do you have any evidence for this claim that isn't drawing from biased samples already, i.e. convicted sex offenders?
>>29346408
>>29346439
you should be on a terrorist watchlist. nobody in their right minds has power fantasys about killing people
>>29344181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy
how about the fact that it causes little to no harm when there is no force or coercion involved? i feel like that's a pretty good argument in favor
>>29346224
the ones who manipulate and rape children are usually sociopaths who are not even attracted to children, it's a completely different context and drive than what pedos feel and want. the main harm that comes from pedo relationships (that are consensual) is the secrecy and the feeling that it must be wrong if they have to keep it a secret. if these relationships weren't taboo and illegal and they could be out in the open, this harm would be eliminated and we could zero in on the sociopaths who are the real issue
>>29345738
what exactly is so complicated about "playing with genitals, touching each other or oneself is pleasurable" ? aside from the social complications which are either self-imposed or imposed unto you.
>>29345623
Seeing as how adult women don't even understand the consequences of having sex(thus abortions), why would a child do?
>>29346792
this anon is absolutely right. the social stigma alone is enough to make it traumatic, turn something pleasant into something creepy as fuck.
there are many testimonials of people who first had sex when they were underage with someone older. these people say the traumatic bit wasn't at all the relationship/sex with the older person, but the social pressure and stigma that it was somehow wrong and that they were victims.
>>29346846
at least let the male children consent then. females are truly a lost cause. when are we going to make elliot-senpai's dream a reality?
>>29346846
If that's the argument then no one can consent, and thus everyone should be barred from sex or no one should.
>>29346826
>what exactly is so complicated about "playing with genitals, touching each other or oneself is pleasurable" ?
Let's assume it's pleasurable for them. You're completely neglecting the mental impact it has on the child. Why can't you understand that even if they physically enjoy it--when I was raped, I was rock hard and I won't pretend otherwise--that's something that will stick with them for a long time and mess them up?
>>29346986
in most cases the mental impact comes from family telling them it was wrong...
>>29343894
There is no such thing. This world lacks legitimacy besides that backed up by force.
>>29343894
The purpose of sexual attraction is to make babies. It's unnatural for people to be attracted to children who are younger than child-bearing age.
>>29347311
*teleports behind u and kidnaps you're daughter* feh....nothing personnel, normie. *teleports back to rape dungeon*
>>29347388
by this argument, (heterosexual) pedophilia should have been made legal long before homosexuality, as my partner will be able to breed in a few years. homosexuals will never be able to breed with eachother. it's also very unnatural to set the age of consent to 18, which is quite a bit later than when nature says it's time to breed
>>29347057
Do you have a single fact to back that up, or is that how you rationalize it to yourself?
>>29347500
read "the trauma myth" by susan clancy. it is an entire book dedicated to explaining how society's reaction to these events is a huge source of harm, written by a practicing therapist based on her experience treating the many people affected by it
nope
/thread
Loli is fine, child porn and raping children is not. One doesn't hurt anyone, the other does. People dislike loli because it reminds them of the degeneracy that is pedophilia. Good for the people who know how to deal with their degeneracy without harming others.
>women like older men and men like younger women this is undisputed biological fact unless you have mommy issues
>put arbitrary age of consent passed peaks sexuality for males
>expired jewish roasties don't have to compete with pefect teenage prime teen pussy for their beta bucks
>men have to compete with rich sugar daddy Chad who got rich during the baby boom the second they turn 18
>(((men))) will defend age of consent
>>29347734
Age of consent is 16 in most US states though...
>I can only get a boner when watching prepubescent children
>older women don't turn me on
>this is normal behavior
How many of you think like this?
>>29343894
Very young females have an increased risk of having children with autism, just like older women. Around 20 has the lowest risk.
It's too easy to manipulate kids. A young girl will think you're amazing simply because you own a vehicle and have a tattoo, but as you get older you realize neither of those things are really incredible.
Of course, you won't actually listen to these arguments because you just want to use kids as sex toys you sick fuck.
>>29348022
>Very young females have an increased risk of having children with autism, just like older women.
so? don't see anyone outlawing sex with cougars over autism worries
>A young girl will think you're amazing simply because you own a vehicle and have a tattoo
not true, young females are even more petty and judgmental about looks than older ones. maybe it's easy if you're Chad, but that's true for women of all age groups. but even if your taste in people changes as you get older, so what? i don't like the same foods that i liked when i was a kid, but does that mean i'm haunted by the memory of having eaten them?
>oh god, i ate fishsticks when i was little, my life is RUINED
>oh god, i listened to smash mouth when i was 8, how will i ever forgive myself or the society that let me? i was too young to understand the nuances and implications that art and music can hold
>>29347734
>>29347734
i would seriously like a '''''''man''''''''' dispute this
>>29347393
You're calling the guy who's never going to reproduce a normie?
>>29347720
the problem with you arguement is that any sexual contact with a "minor" is rape
Down syndrome kids ^_^
>>29350641
le wooooo
>>29346986
You're using the word "raped" without any context. Are you saying raped = had sex with under age of consent, i.e. statutory rape? Or did the person coerce you into it?
>>29344009
>Like entire volumes of psychological assesment proving that sex abuse fucks up children?
There actually isn't much research into the mechanisms of this. There is hardly any research into pedophilia period. It doesn't help that most studies use convicted child rapists as a representation of pedophiles in general, so I don't see how you could make that claim.
>>29347900
I think it's "normal" in the sense that it's expected at least some of the population will find children/young teens attractive given their physical characteristics (smooth unblemished skin, firm bodies, perky breasts). It's only "abnormal" in that society finds the whole thing unnerving.
>>29348446
>i listened to smash mouth when i was 8, how will i ever forgive myself
kek
Well said anon. What's silly about this harm argument is that children are universally MORE resilient to individual episodes of negative experiences than adults are, but society seems to think it's the opposite. It's only when there is systematic neglect or abuse that there is developmental harm.
There are so many arguments against this but the main one is that "female" "kids" usually only get the HPV vaccine from 16-21 (legally, its supposed to be given as soon as you turn 16)
If you have penetrative sex with someone younger than 16 you're putting them at risk of developing HPV and subsequently cervical cancer, and I doubt most people younger than 16 understand the implications of this or even realize this, considering how poorly sexual education is taught.
>>29351020
Solution: only allow NEET virgin males to have sex with underage females. Two birds with one fuckin stone m8
>>29351059
Or we can just euthanize NEET virgin males.
>less resources used up
>pure virgin girls stay virgins up until the AoCalso 30% of virgins have hpv
>>29351142
>also 30% of virgins have hpv
wut?
The current hysteria is retarded, but here are some non-normie "justifications":
I. If pubescent people are allowed to sexually imprint on actual humans instead of cartoon characters and Tumblr, there will be no more furries, bronies, Homosuckers, lolicons, or waifufags. If you're having IRL sex, there's no reason to come up with things like unbirthing, dragon-fucking, or hyper futa. The current situation is responsible for internet culture.
II. Forcing men to select young-LOOKING women instead of merely young women promotes, eugenically, more cute young-looking women. Of course, this also means that their male children will be babyfaced, but they'll probably also be gay, and it'll help them.
That's as good as I could do under the circumstances.
>>29351375
i'm honestly not sure which side you're arguing for here
>>29351569
honestly, i want some pie now
>>29350796
Yes, I was coerced.
>>29351626
coercion is bad, sex is not. why can't people separate these two?
>>29343894
A child shouldn't have their innocence taken away for the pleasure of an adult.
>B-but they can decide for themselves, anon!
They're not at the age where they can do that. I'd say anyone under 13 is not capable of making that decision. People under 13 shouldn't have their virginity taken. Above all at that age and onwards it should be choice, but that's the cutoff age before you become sick scum in my opinion.
>>29351638
autism to be honest
>>29351652
there's not really much of an argument being put forth here. OP asked if there were any legit arguments. saying "it's bad, in my opinion" is probably the weakest shit you could possibly come up with
>>29351569
The current situation is abnormal, but at least it generates weird anime porn. Gotta look on the sunny side.
>>29351752
but japans aoc is low af and their weird anime spankbank is like the best
>>29351770
Actually, from what I heard on duh innuhnetz, it's (prefecturally) closer to 18. Also, they're "not having sex", apparently.
Jews and good goys hate our love.
Also, thread is keks. What is it that causes normies to follow the pattern of making a series of weak arguments, getting disproven, then starting to foam at the mouth and start posting their murder fantasies? If I were rich, I'd start a foundation to study these simple creatures and find out how they are so predictable.
>>29351726
Below 13 there simply is not enough emotional maturity for a person to decide if they want sex or not. It is a violation of their body if they have sex below that age. I don't like talking about it but I was raped as a kid and it's the most awful thing that's happened to me. It paved the way for a lot of problems I experience today. Having your virginity taken unwillingly by someone is just destructive. The reason I say that 13 is the age at which it should be legal is because below that even if a child makes the choice to have sex they don't know what they're getting in for.
>>29351652
Why aren't they capable of making that decision? What is innocence and why does sex steal it?
>>29351848
it's hard to believe yhat since you can openly go buy used panties and shit like that but there is probably a median though
like even the lower aoc prefactures are only for natives, no gaijin wenus allowed
>>29351891 #
We aren't talking about rape, we are talking about gentle, consensual sexual contact in the context of a mutually affectionate relationship.
>>29351891
i'm sorry you were raped, but it sounds like you are projecting your own horrible experience onto more benign acts. no one is defending coercion or anything being forced on someone.
>>29351915
I thought they banned the panty machines.
>>29351915
I assume it's like buying shit a kink shop, it's allowed but people think you're weird and creepy for doing it.
Free market =/= socially acceptable
>>29352027
supposedly it's against the fed but that's like weed is against the fed in u.s
>>29351891
>women
>mature in any way, shape or form
Nope. It's fear mongering to push their agendas. The trauma comes from it being stigmatized, the pressure from family, etc. (a kid had sex and suddenly the people closest to him/her house them with questions and accusation, get them tested, forced them to testify in court, take them to therapists/more tests and esstenstially brainwash them into believe long what they want)
Anything arguing against pedos, replace the relevant words with gay/trans and it sounds like a newspaper article from the 70s
It's amazing. Pedophiles are like champions at mental gymnastics. I would say they match or exceed even the most liberal cuck. They trick themselves into believing the child wanted it and then they surround themselves in an echo chamber where they trade pictures and stories of how the children cries weren't cries for help, but that of joy.
Pedophiles are disgusting people. Fuck off, pedophiles!
>>29352455
women are neotenous men, men are neotenous apes
stand in the way of evolution if you want but I am not the man to scrape your brains off the highway of fate
>>29352455
ask any therapist who has dealt with the subject matter whether the "victims" were crying or distressed during the act. they rarely were. most find it pleasant, but strange at the time. the tears come later as an adult when they learn that they were supposed to hate it and they come to the conclusion that they must be some kind of freak of nature for enjoying it at the time. no one is better at mental gymnastics than normies desu
>>29352586
>Evolution dictates that I must sleep with children.
See? The mental gymnastics are AMAZING!
>>29352648
You know, if I smash your skull open and attack electrodes to your brain to make you feel pleasure the entire time and then fix you back to normal, you're going to be pissed that I smashed your skull despite "it being pleasant, but strange".
>>29352714
>posting teens
>ranting about moralfaggotry
getting some real mixed messages here
>>29352764
I'm posting women who are of legal age and more than likely in their early 20's. Sorry all the women you see are busted by the time they're 20, but that's not the real world.
>>29352764
he wants to get the thread shutdown because he's(she's) a shill
reminder to ignore/filter cancer tripfags
>>29352714
do you realize how insane it is to compare sex (a pleasurable, natural act sought out by humans everywhere, second only in importance to food, shelter and water) to smashing someone's head open? this right here is what mental gymnastics really looks like.
>>29352714
As long as my skull gets back together and I don't become a potato due to my brain being mashed by my broken skull plates I'll be fine with it desu. I hate pedos but this is a shit analogy anon.
>>29352789
>fat chick with problem glasses and aposematism hair
THEY'RE IN THE FUCKING TREES AAAAAAAAAA
>>29344421
No it's not and you know it.
>>29352455
I'm not a pedo but these threads always interest me. people like you, and others here are amusing, "kids never start or want it! It's mental gymnastics!"
I had sex with 4 different people/thing before I was 13. Only twice out of the 4 people, I was not the instigator
First with my best friend, he started with kissing, then we touched where it felt good, it didn't go beyond foreplay until after I figured where to put dicks (combination of a medical book, sex Ed at school, and watching a dog fuck in the woods) which happened after my new way of masturbating. (Ask for story, I don't remember much of it so it's short)
the second person with a guy on our street, about 30 or so, I started it with blowing him (went to his house to swim and saw him tanning nude, asleep) At the start where me and him fooled around, it was foreplay as well, I think he held back until I had the epiphany and asked him to stick it in. ( three days after Me and my friend fucked each other for the first time, )This happened numerous times, and I still keep touch with him at 27 years old
Third person was a female babysitter, saw her masturbating and told her I'd tell if she didn't "lick my wee" didn't go beyond that and only a few times.
The final time was a surprise to me. It turned out they when you have sex, and naked from
Changing clothes, bending down to pick up socks might prompt a dog to mount you. That's the only thing that's close to rape, but I liked it so not really (although it felt good, I thought it was weird so it happened once)
If it's too fuzzy I can type out a timeline
>>29352911
It will be, I will make it so.
>>29346826
You lie to yourself and bury your sickness under a denial pile. Pretty simple.
>>29352982
You didn't answer the question. What is do complicated about sex?
>>29353016
What's do complicated about the nigger cock that you'll be pleasuring every day for the rest of your life after you put your deranged fantasies into action?
>>29353016
You pedophiles pervs think small children are hungry for your cock. It's you that has an obsession with your penis. A little kid playing trucks on the floor is never gonna suddenly think, gee, I wanna Suck on fat ol' uncle pepe's peepee. Seriously it's just a penis, not some magical appendage you think it is.
>>29353168
Don't you dare compare pedoscum to pepe! Even by pepe's standards pedophiles are disgusting.
>>29353192
That's reassuring to hear.
You will find that throughout history, sexual activity with children was extremely rare outside societies where it was considered a necessity. Even then, women were considered the most desirable post pubescence.
The reason why pedophilia is becoming so common these days is because of internet pornography, and the need by pornography addicts to seek out more and more extreme fetishes.
If you are a pedophile, the quickest way to cure yourself is forgoing pornography for a brief period of time.
Another fetish that is becoming more prominent for the same reason is necrophilia.
Should we legalize corpse fucking because a bunch of porn addict weirdos think it's their right desecrate the dead due to their own transient fetish? No, we shouldn't.
We need to just ignore and punish kiddie fiddlers until the learn to stop being degenerates.
>>29353168
actually little boys are hella obsessed with penises. a friend of mine has kids and he's always disciplining his sons for playing with their junk. they'd probably be fascinated by and interested in playing with the penises of others if they were given a chance, but of course they won't be since suppressing children's curiosity about body parts and sex is a top priority for parents and society in general these days. of course, they like trucks too, and guns. holy shit do they like guns.
>>29353289
>If you are a pedophile, the quickest way to cure yourself is forgoing pornography for a brief period of time
>implying
I've like little girls since I was a little boy myself. Why is it so wrong to love little girls?
>>29353168
That's right, it's not magic, and it's not going to hurt them magically either. But the question you still haven't answered is what is so complicated? The kid not initiating it doesn't mean they can't stand it.
>>29353192
>my reddit maymay had a persona that I decide on and you don't dare change it!
>>29352802
Yeah, except children, especially before puberty, don't seek out sex.
>>29352854
So you'll take a traumatic event so long as the trauma doesn't exist in the end?
>>29352951
>mfw you say you're not a pedo.
>>29353328
Honestly that was more of a joke, use pepe whatever way you like. It's a meme and nobody owns it, it's not like it's copyrighted or anything....
>>29353289
>We need to just ignore and punish kiddie fiddlers until the learn to stop being degenerates
How come this isn't the case for faggots?
>>29353328
Also that's a really well done and probably somewhat rare pepe did you make it yourself?
>>29351879
>what is it that causes normies to follow the pattern
The stages of grief, and we're slowly but surely closing in on the last stage. It cannot be denied much longer.
>>29353289
>You will find that throughout history, sexual activity with children was extremely rare outside societies where it was considered a necessity. Even then, women were considered the most desirable post pubescence.
Wrong. The age of marriage in Rome was 14, but those cute little blond germanic children fetched a nice premium. So you think it was for labor? Victorians would rather die that talk about underwear, but they were happily fucking 10yo prostitutes. There has always been child sex in societies, you're just doing some shit like reading Shakespeare and thinking that everyone in the middle ages was either a King or usurper. Most of these justifications made to hide this by revisionist feminists.
>>29353343
Yep, since I won't be traumatized whatsoever in the long scheme of things and I would actually feel pleasure from it after the brief trauma ends, I'm fine with it.
>>29353289
pedophilia is probably no more or less common than it ever was. you just hear about it more because now it's considered a Huge Problem in an age where the news media can't stop bringing Scandals and Problems to our attention. you're also posting on 4chan, so there's going to be a selection bias there, there's probably higher proportion of pedos on 4chan because it's anonymous and used to have a lolicon board, board culture, etc. it's not that 4chan or pornography makes people into pedos, the culture just attracts them here.
One of the ways child sexual abuse is detected is when a young child is inappropriately interested in/fascinated by sex/genitalia. Healthy, happy kids don't really have an interest in sex beyond some self stimulation when they are learning about their bodies. That's why it's referred to as sexual interference, you are robbing the child of his right to develop his sexual identity at his own pace.
You perv
>>29353425
Somehow I doubt getting you skull smashed is going to not have lasting trauma. Just like how I doubt get raped as a child isn't going to have trauma.
>>29353589
So, you think it's OK to rape children?
>>29353541
>his own pace
Is it bad if a kid is reading a book that's higher level reading than his peers?
I don't get how being precocious is inherently bad when it comes to sex.
>>29353318
Everyone liked girls their own age when they were young, dummy.
Too bad your porn addiction warped your sexual preference so that now you are stunted
>>29353388
Pretty much due to modern societies view that everyone deserves liberty and that. And maybe they do (even though a lot of the times, homosexuality can be harmful to families, not that the pc police will ever admit it)
But at least children are safe for now due to the idea that abusing them and traumatizing them is an infringement of their rights. But how long will that last? When society is all about pleasing the minority even at the expense of innocents.
>>29353419
You really think history was a pedos wonderland? Stories of pedophilia being the norm were borne from chronological snobbery. People in the modern age gloating how far their had come from being childfuckers. Except you obviously have a different interpretation of that, didn't you.
>>29353541
>We also make them pick a general course for the rest of their life by the time they enter high school. This is interference! We are robbing them of the choice to choose at their own pace by pressuring them like that!
Your attitude is a cancerous one that leads to infantilization. There is nothing special about sex that "interference" is remotely relevant.
>>29353637
>mfw what
Child fuckers have no self esteem so they target children as they are less threatening than an adult to the weak minded.
>>29352714
>hurr i kill pedos
>>29353150
>I hate rape unless it's you getting gang raped forever
>>29353168
>strawman
>>29353289
>disinfo
Is this really the best you fucking morons have?
>>29353589
Notice how I wrote in my post "As long as my skull gets back together and I don't become a potato, this is essentially removing the trauma. Also you realize that the pleasure caused by stimulating the brain essentially would warp my perception to the point that I won't feel pain from getting my skull cracked open right? I think a better analogy for pedos would be "I could drug you with crystal meth and get you addicted but it would feel good" or something like that.
>>29353660
>muh children
Oh boy, here we go again
>>29353680
Because they are infants which is where the word infantile comes from you stupid twisted fuck!
>>29353697
>he thinks I killed someone.
>>29353713
No, I think I made it clear. You were in pain for the start and then it wasn't painful, it was pleasurable. You'll always remember that initial pain. It will never leave you. The first time your head was cracked, you'll never forget it. You'll also never forget I'm the one who smashed your head. As long as you live, I never gave you the choice. I came up and smashed your head before giving you pleasure you've never felt before.
>>29353750
"infant" refers to like the first year of life. children above the age of 2 are not infants
>>29353771
Well then it greatly depends on whether the initial trauma outweighs the pleasure or vice versa.
Adults instinctively are repulsed by and destroy adults who are playground predators. It's like our aversion to rats and bugs, they are not healthy to live with. Pedos are insects.
>>29353697
>fucking someone under the magic government age is wrong
>arresting them, trying them as an adult, sending them to a place where they'll be raped, and doing this over and over is perfectly okay
lmao the government should have to register and tell people when it moves in
>>29343894
The reason why i think it's bad it's because it's extremely selfish. You just think about your sexual pleasure, and don't care about the child. Most of the time it is something very traumatic that the victim doesn't want to remember or even remove from its memory. The fact is that we live in a society were sex is still considered a taboo argument, and something very intimate.
When sex will be considered as something very normal like a kiss on your cheek for example, then probably pedophilia won't be considered something bad.
I personally think that it should be considered as a pervertion, just like homosexuality. The difference is that homosexuality is socially accepted while pedophilia not. But judging by the times we're living in, i won't be surprised if in the near future people will try to legalize it.
>>29353771
consensual sexual contact with children isn't painful, dude, we've been over this. you've got the order of pain and pleasure reversed in your analogy. with sex, it's pleasurable at the time, and way later in life the social taboos sink in and it becomes socially painful. but it doesn't have to be.
>>29353826
You need a lil bit of sigmund freud my nigga.
only like 50% of adults react INSTINCTIVELY like that, everything else is pure norms
>>29353814
It will always outweigh the momentary pleasure. Pleasure is fleeting, trauma isn't. They'll always remember the first time that was orchestrated by a power greater them then. It will always crawl in the back of their head that they never got the freedom to choose who they really wanted. They were manipulated and abused. The pleasure was momentary. The memories will never be forgotten.
>>29353660
>You really think history was a pedos wonderland? Stories of pedophilia being the norm were borne from chronological snobbery. People in the modern age gloating how far their had come from being childfuckers. Except you obviously have a different interpretation of that, didn't you.
More revisionist bullshit. Your just like the idiots saying the boys in Plato's symposium were really men and Aisha was really 19 because they sometimes left out the leading digit when it was obvious. Pedophilia is all over the ancient texts. I'm phoneposting right now, but I have actually done lots of research into this. You are denying it because you want to convince yourself it isn't natural.
>>29353826
You've been BTFO enough to go into the foaming-at-the-mouth phase I see.
>>29353865
Oh well I do not want. Now your analogy makes more sense to me.
>>29353858
>Consensual sexual contact with children isn't painful.
First time consensual sexual contact for anyone is can be painful.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/3047.aspx?categoryid=118
But hey, whatever mental gymnastics you use.
>>29353873
Pedophelia as in actually having sex with prepubescent children(like sub 8) was probably not that common. But obviously, there was no 18 age of consent.
>>29353909
But hey, whatever you can say to supress your inner creatively thinking child right?
>>29353909
>When a woman has vaginal sex
stopped reading right there. obviously vaginal sex is off the table with children. anyone with a triple digit IQ should be able to figure that one out. the orifice is just not big enough yet. there are plenty of sexual acts that don't involve penetration, but can feel just as good, if not better (many women don't seem to get off much from vaginal penetration in the first place).
>>29353951
Whatever, pedo. You're literally ignoring scientific fact. That's because you mind if a gymnasium of little children and you're a disgusting freak.
>>29353916
It wasn't uncommon either. Heterosexuality has always been the norm, but pedophilia and faggotry have always lurked at the edges too, and both have cycled between acceptance and rejection.
You sick fuckers aren't going to see the light suddenly because of something someone here says.
But it's probably a good idea to let you know we see you twisting your minds and hearts into a place where you are projecting onto children.
We see you and and your horrible intent.
>>29353990
>obviously vaginal sex is off the table with children. anyone with a triple digit IQ should be able to figure that one out. the orifice is just not big enough yet.
So the body is literally not physically ready for sex, but you somehow think the mind is developed enough to have sex?
Are you even real, dude?
>(many women don't seem to get off much from vaginal penetration in the first place).
Not by your small child loving dick.
>>29354031
>So the body is literally not physically ready for sex
you seem to think that non-penetrative sex isn't actually sex. in that case, cunninlingus should be fine? because it's not sex, according to you. not breaking any laws here, and her body isn't bursting into flame when i do it
Child fuckers have no self esteem so they target children as they are less threatening than an adult to the weak minded.
Child fuckers have no self esteem so they target children as they are less threatening than an adult to the weak minded.
Child fuckers have no self esteem so they target children as they are less threatening than an adult to the weak minded.
>>29354009
My intent is love and gentleness. You do not get to decide what my internal intentions are based on your simpleminded interpretations of external actions unless you're also a fucking mind reader.
>>29354031
Sex doesn't need to be penetrative. Children have erogenous zones they can feel pleasure from, and they can enjoy being kissed and cuddled.
>>29353873
You really can't compare those ancient times with today's society. We have moral standards now, and also the quality of life is higher. Romans had marriages at the age of 14 or even less because the quality of life wasn't high as today. You could have considered yourself lucky to get into your 30s, because the average life expectancy was 27 years.
Pedophiles literally prey on the fact that children don't know any better. That's how they're able to get away with their shit. Anyone with an ounce of awareness of the real world would see through a pedo's intentions. They hope and pray the child is innocent enough to not question their motives.
Disgusting.
>>29354094
No, you're just warping the child's mind because they know what you're doing is wrong. You're putting your mouth in a dirty place. You're disgusting. A freak! You hold down children and rape them and you act as if you did nothing wrong. DISGUSTING!
I'm curious, how do people explain how there are tribes where homosexual pedophilia is normal? Surely if it's so harmful they would have figured that out by now and end that tradition.
I think most harm is done by society telling kids that sex is bad. I was abused as a child and did get hurt by it as I grew older. But looking back on it I think most harm was done due to being an insecure teenager wanting to be like all other teenagers. I wasn't allowed to wear non-traditional clothing by my mother and when I was a teenager that was way worse than having been abused.
What I mean is, if we lived in a society where hugging children was considered rape then hugging children would do just as much harm as sex is right now.
>>29354119
>moral standards
>now
Yes, because morality was discovered 15 years ago.
>>29353909
It's probably even more painful for kids considering that their holes aren't fully developed yet. Pedoshits should really just kill themselves for the rest of humanity.
>>29354131
>if we lived in a society where hugging children was considered rape
Oh boy, God help you if you're a dude and you find a lost girl and try to help her..
>>29353992
He's probably one of those fags who watch children's gymnast shows for fapping purposes. Just ignore the disgusting degenerate.
>>29354117
No, we get to protect our children from fuckers like you and understand instinctively that your sexual advances are in fact sick twisted expressions of sexuality. We don't have to entertain your rationalizations.
>>29354119
There have been moral standards since forever. You can't not have them, even if the standard is that everything is acceptable.
Those were still humans. We are not fundamentally different from them. All that has changed is how we intetpret reality and what we collectively value.
>You could have considered yourself lucky to get into your 30s, because the average life expectancy was 27 years.
Mostly skewed by high infant mortality, constant warfare, and their poor treatment of slaves. The upperclass could expect to live quite a while.
You're right, but that doesn't mean that a young marriage age is bad just because we live longer now.
>>29354120
>the alternative to teen girls is grossly fat chicks
7/10 stealth troll
>>29354229
Mei is Bae, bro.
>>29354173
The vast majority of child abuse is done by close family members. The feminist claim that 1 in 3 girls will be abused. What are you protecting? You're just an impotent coward who is talking tough on a japanese animated child pornography newsgroup.
>>29354137
Of course not, but 2000 years ago was a bit different from today, you know?
Especially with christianity in europe we started developing some morality, sometimes too much strict yeah, but still humans have changed. We do not have the same view that men had 3000 years ago.
>>29344020
>Minors cannot ... consent
Meaningless statement
>legally
Irrelevant.
>>29344121
>Kids can't marry,
They can.
>>29354241
>normie twitter niggerisms
overcommitting to your role
it's satire, not RP
>>29354267
>muh prawgress
thanks for ruining the empire, shithead
>>29354264
I never said pedos can't be family.
Touch a nerve did I uncle?
>>29354173
>understand instinctively
no, you've had it drilled into your head since childhood about "stranger danger" and about never letting ANYONE touch you down there (except on doctor visits). instinct my ass. if you talk to older generations they don't feel even remotely as strong on the issue, generally speaking. this is a cultural phenomenon that has little to do with biology or instinct. you're not repeating a story told to you by your genes, you're repeating what was told to you by your parents, by your teachers, other trusted adults. that's fine and all, probably a majority of what they taught you is true. but it's not all gospel. you're an adult now, you can try to exercise a bit of independent thought. i believe in you, anon!
>>29354267
The Romans were much more principled than the church. You keep saying that things you find immoral are a lack of morality. The Samurai had a strict moral code, that you can't deny, and you can find art from their feudal period of them fucking young boys on Wikipedia.
>>29354264
Is it your brother's kid or your sister's kid your grooming?
>>29353343
But I'm not? What's this thought that kids that have sex turn into pedos too?
>>29354099
>no self esteem so they target children as they are less threatening than
that is an interesting point, albeit probably not always (or even usually) the case.
>>29353289
>the need by pornography addicts to seek out more and more extreme fetishes.
That seems like a really valid reason for why there would be an increase.
When you combine these two posts, it is really no wonder sites [this one] full of degenerate neets masturbating several times a day facilitate people becoming pedos.
My theory is that there is, in cases in our age/internet usage demographic, also an element of wanton self-destruction often linked to various neurological disorders like depression etc.
Thoughts?
>>29354416
Newflash:
Your cute little nephew does not want to see your smelly, hairy dick.
>>29354416
Well, at least you took your name off before trying to samefag. That's a bit smarter than the usual redditors.
>>29354210
You know, apart from what I have said before, for me the most genuine reason is just one.
A child should be a child. It shouldn't get involved into sexual stuff before more or less 12 years old (with sexual stuff i don't mean having sex, but masturbation or watching a porn).
It should just enjoy life and "keep living in its fantasy world" till he reach puberty. It really makes me sad when i think about someone who has been "raped" by a pedo, because in my opinion a child represent the human naive, who still live in its happy world. It shouldn't be ruined by someone who just can't have sexual satisfaction with normal adult.
>>29354448
I'm a guy who spanks it 5 times a day but I'm not a pedo and I think they are one of the many cancers that lie in society......
>>29354509
A fucking greed!
Childhood is short enough.
Abused children tend to abuse other children in an effort to understand what happened or perhaps regain control.
>>29354448
I wasn't made into a pedophile by 4chan, I came to 4chan because I was pedo. And it was a good choice.
>13: realize I like little girls
>14: start looking at CP on limewire
>15: get even farther into CP
>15.5: find 4chan
>16: get into anime
>16.5: start looking at lolicon
>17: give up CP
>>29354120
>You're putting your mouth in a dirty place
This is bait, right?
>>29354509
Why would that stop them from being happy? I would be so loving and gentle, and I want to make them feel good. I would give them the attention and love that their parents were too busy for and teach them life skills and stuff too, and generally be their friend.
A person can't help being a pedos but they can avoid harming children by not convincing themselves that children want sex with them.
>>29354583
This is why I think lolicon should be legal, it keeps pedos in check and stops them from going for actual CP or actually going after kids.
>>29354646
No hope for you bud, just hope dad discovers your intent before you do harm.
>>29354630
>He thinks a child doesn't think the place where he pees from isn't dirty.
Dayum son
>>29354646
Obviously b8. No self aware adult would actually believe this shit.
>>29354646
This is a perverted way to think.
Like i said, let them be young, they have an entire life in front of them to think about all those things. Let them play in the garden and have fun, they're simply too young for that stuff.
>>29354646
Someone this determined to fuck children should be locked away from society. Maybe given the option to suicide.
>>29354709
But why are they too young? If I have to go my whole life being supressing my sexuality and love, I think I deserve to know why.
>>29354646
You're not going to be a threat to little ones for long.
You gonna be so v&
>>29354709
>Like i said, let them be young,
Meanwhile it's okay to be a helicopter parent who never lets their child do anything on their own and keeps them safe from everything. It's also okay to be one of those parents who forces their child to study all the time.
Stranger yet, child abusers are never demonized like pedophiles are, despite being as or even more traumatic than molestation. In fact, some people actually defend it as "discipline" and "hard love".
The argument that "they're kids let them be kids" is a cop out because normies already don't care about letting kids be kids.
>>29344390
same here.
Somehow, it encouraged me to have sex with more girls though.
>inb4 chad
>>29354784
Love, right.
You're so twisted you probably believe that.
You're just horny, for kids.
Love! Gimme a break.
>>29345738
>people who defend pedophilia are disgusting
not an argument, kiddo.
>watch me be put on a list now
>>29354172
>pedophilia is degenerate
shill detected
>>29354852
Good thing that wasn't my argument nor did I claim it was.
>>29354663
Literally this.
>B-but just like violent video games make people violent, lolicon make people into pedophiles!
>>29354852
>being this dense
Pedophiles, everyone. They should be hunted down like beasts.
>>29354509
did your life just go to shit the second you discovered masturbation or something? i absolutely cannot comprehend where this attitude comes from. when i was a kid it was a happy discovery, my world didn't suddenly wither and turn to ash, it was only enhanced by the knowledge that when i touch my dick it feels good. i can only assume your parents must have caught you and punished you severely and you now associate bad feelings with it and an end to "innocence" as your parents considered you a sinning spawn of satan or something going forward. why is it the pedos who are evil and not parents who make their children ashamed of natural human inclinations?
>>29354646
hahaha this is probably the easiest way to get on an NSA watch list
>>29354846
You don't even know. The sexual part is easy to deal with, but tfw no lgf really hurts. I'd refrain from sex completely if I could just be around a girl and take her on dates and stuff and get her to like me.
kids can't consent .
there is no way you can perform a sexual act especially on a child that will not ruin their lives in one way or another.
that said.
>art like loli and shota stuff should be kept legal.
>pedos should have the option to get some sort of lolibots once they actually get made.
>>29354931
don't worry, america's not gonna be around for much longer anyway
>>29354583
>tfw no 13-y/o pedo gf
>>29352951
Will you green text these please.
>>29355001
Sure if you want anon, it's a bit fuzzy since it was years ago. Let me type it out
>>29354583
If a 13-year-old is a pedo am I okay to rape them? I'm sorta dark-skinned (cherokee/spic) and I can fake niggerese, and I spent a night in the drunk tank a few years ago for accidentally setting my bike on fire, so I'm sort of like a bubba, I guess. Can I have the go-ahead?
>>29354964
>leftists try to legalize pedophilia
>they get gunned down in the ensuing revolution
>pedos, fags, and other degenerates burned alive
Glorious justice.
>>29355068
I do want, thanks.
>>29355131
mmm just wonderful
>>29346555
Studies that show little/no consequences use small sample groups (unrepresentative), poor methodology (self report usually) and are often commissioned/funded by pro-pedo groups (bias). I wouldn't wipe my arse with those studies.
>>29355203
>if the study disagrees with me it's wrong
>>29354699
If you saw some of the webcam CP out there you'd realize kids' perceptions of "dirty" are not at all what you think
>>29355203
OK then, let's see the better studies with better methodologies showing contrary results?
>>29355193
Cuckservatism is a failure that will always lose to leftism. A harder and harsher line has to be drawn. I don't really care if pedophiles commit crimes or not. They are aberrant and have to be destroyed. A society without strictly regulated sexual and gender roles is doomed to fall soon and be replaced with a stronger, better organized one.
>>29355249
Nah, it'll only get worse. It has been for some time now, and it's not gonna stop.
>>29343894
Adults can use their physical and social power to easily bend children to their will
I'm not saying children can't consent, because I actually think they can, but I am saying that it's very hard to discern whether or not they actually do and whether it's a product of deliberate conditioning or not.
>>29355203
>little/no consequences use small sample groups (unrepresentative)
False. But either way, small sample group doesn't mean unrepresentative, and large samples don't mean representative.
>poor methodology (self report usually)
All of psychology must be self-reported until we have a mind reading method.
And the patients that cry on Dr. Shekelstein's couch aren't any less self-reported.
>are often commissioned/funded by pro-pedo groups
There hasn't been a meaningful pro-pedo group in over twenty years.
>>29355285
And the more important question is whether or not they "should" consent even if they do, which comes with an increased awareness of the ramifications of every action involved (from all parties) and social norms and the like.
Oh and of course they can always be physically overpowered and coerced against their consent.
>>29354963
>there is no way you can perform a sexual act especially on a child that will not ruin their lives in one way or another
>normies actually believe this shit
>>29355236
Shut up, pedo.
>>29353997
Faggotry was very much the horm in the ancient mediterranean cultures. Not as in exclusive same-sex relationships of today, but same sex intercourse was commonly practiced in most affluent cultures of the time/place.
>>29355339
>tfw you will never be an ancient celt who does it with your favorite warrior bro after a night of excruciating and thrilling combat
Why am I alive?
>>29355249
ayyyy bav'
>>29355363
Celts were most often getting fucked by Romans.
>>29355331
Because it is true, sickfuck.
The stories you read on the sickfuck websites you visit aren't true. 7 year olds don't enjoy being taken advantage of, it isn't romantic or endearing, it is traumatic.
I was 15 when my grandparents were given temporary custody of an 11 year old who had been raped by her father for 2 years. It was the only way she knew to get love.
She would slip her hand into my hoody pocket and cling to my hand when we went places together and she tried to initiate sex twice in the two weeks I knew her. The poor kid is fucked up for life.
>>29355398
did you tap that shit?
>>29355398
Incest is always fucked up because of the power dynamics and the different kinds of love being confused. But a little girl friend that you met and grew the relationship with from scratch wouldn't have that problem. She could tell you to go to hell without risking her food supply, and she isn't required to love you.
>MEH wants to have sex at 11
>so fucked up dude!!!
have you ever consider the kid actually enjoyed sex?girls go trough puberty sooner then boys.
>>29355238
Ok. It's an anlysis of multiple studies, whilst I can't talk about the value of each individual one, think it offers a good basis for forming an opinion.
http://psycnet.apa.org/?&fa=main.doiLanding&doi=10.1037/0033-2909.113.1.164
>>29355314
>False. But either way, small sample group doesn't mean unrepresentative, and large samples don't mean representative.
If it is false then please show me the studies that present a large sample group. Upwards of 1000 would be worth looking at I think. While you are technically correct, a small sample of say (just a number out of thin air) 1% cannot be representative of the 100%. It is simply not possible.
>>are often commissioned/funded by pro-pedo groups
>There hasn't been a meaningful pro-pedo group in over twenty years.
Boy, I wonder if that has something to do with the harm the child sexual abuse often results in, and the expected public hatred for such a thing.
>>29355449
No. I was 15 and I'll admit it did cross my mind. But she had chlamydia (the reason her father got caught, gave her an STD and school nurse turned him in) and I thought my family would think I was a sicko even though it was legal.
She was cute and the way she clung to me was adorable, but she was so damaged that even teenage me could never have done it unless she threw herself at me and had a condom, might've if that had happened.
protip: this wouldn't be happening if you didn't lump ephebes and up in with actual pedos
this is like treating weed and crack the same and then being surprised when some stoners also do crack
>>29355285
anyone with power can use that power to hurt those with less power than them. power is not inherently evil or hurtful, though. most relationships are not models of egalitarianism. anyway, i don't think it would be that hard to determine the use of coercion if these relationships were out in the open. it would be plain to see by the dislike and distress towards the coercer.
>>29355489
She was diagnosed with PTSD and her shrink outright told my grandparents not to leave her alone with any untrustworthy males because she craved love and affection and would do anything for it.
They never left us alone for a minute because she made it obvious that she wanted to fuck me, but it was because she was damaged. No 11 year old with a healthy mind wants sex with anybody.
>>29355236
>webcam CP
>admitting to searching for CP
are you a retard?
>>29355566
My trips with dubs have spoken, fuck off with your disgusting misinformed worldview >>29355489
>>29355596
dubs don't actually mean anything
>>29355604
Tell it to my sweet tripdubs, bitch.
>>29355528
So you admit that, at 15, you DID kind of want to fuck her. But you were mature enough to realize that it was a bad idea.
>>29355514
> approximately one-third of victims had no symptoms
> Penetration, the duration and frequency of the abuse, force, the relationship of the perpetrator to the child, and maternal support affected the degree of symptomatology
>The findings suggest the absence of any specific syndrome in children who have been sexually abused and no single traumatizing process
this is quite consistent with rind's findings if you had bothered to actually read them. what this suggests is, just like what rind found, it's not a simple "did you have sexual contact? if yes, you now have PTSD, congrats" like it is popularly believed. rather, it depends on things like force, coercion, penetration, which are the actual mechanisms that cause harm
>>29344390
The brain doesn't completely finish maturing until 25, so why isn't the legal age 25?
>>29355514
>Ok. It's an anlysis of multiple studies, whilst I can't talk about the value of each individual one, think it offers
Thats a politically motivated meta analysis created after Congress lost their shit after Rind et al published a meta analysis saying the opposite.
>If it is false then please show me the studies that present a large sample group. Upwards of 1000 would be worth looking at I think. While you are technically correct, a small sample of say (just a number out of thin air) 1% cannot be representative of the 100%. It is simply not possible.
False because sample size is irrelevant. The a high sample size closes the confidence interval, making the conclusions more certain. It has nothing to do with how well it represents the population. You're thinking of selection bias, which is the go-to complain when someone doesn't like the conclusions.
Also, no amount of statistics will ever get to 100%. It doesn't try. The standard is 95% confidence. And far less than 1% can get to that in Gaussian distributions (almost everything in nature is Gaussian). 1% of the US population is 3,000,000 people. A good opinion survey may ask 50,000 to be considered a good estimator.
>and the expected public hatred for such a thing.
Yes, obviously the lynchings will do that. Good job silencing your opponents.
>>29355596
>disgusting misinformed worldview
lol dubs don't prove shit.unless she lived secluded in a fucking basement,she would understand what she is doing is not morally acceptable for normies
>>29355647
That's actually when the growth of new connections slows way the fuck down. See also the popular "learning a new language after 25 is a pain in the ass" meme.
Of course, our culture abhors anything that tells us we're old, so it's packaged as "maturity". Lol, yeah, so mature that you'll piss blood trying to figure out Russian.
>>29355337
Excellent argument.
>>29355567
What of it fag?
>>29355626
I suppose. Admit is a strong word, but she hit puberty a year prior because of the rape (not common knowlege, it seems, but early puberty can indicate child abuse) and looked about my age.
And she was one of the first girls I ever kissed or held hands with, so her sexual advances naturally made me think.
