why would a robot not make a tulpa?
>>29324692
I really really want to, but I have no idea how. Any help robots?
>>29324753
Look up any of the guides?
>>29324753
I think all the guides are in tulpa.info
>>29324901
This, also really, use a bit of own imagination.
It's a very personal experience, journey or what not anyway.
So there's no other way around it then making Your own, and then Your companions.
I'd rather just be alone and occasionally be knocked on my ass by the presence of a real, flesh and blood woman.
I want a mothgirl gf.
>>29325055
would you an orc
>>29325233
A charming and tenderly loving one, seems like material for a wife.
I can already imagine teasful wrestling that turns out into an intimate evening.
Same reason I don't do anything. I have no motivation to do anything over a long time period.
I practice guitar once a week for one hour.
>>29325298
Would you make a cute orc tulpa and go on wonderland adventures slaughtering elven filth together?
>>29325233
Literally a green-skinned human. I prefer monstergirls that have extra sets of limbs like the scylla or squid girl but too bad they won't ever exist.
https://nhentai.net/g/125804/
>>29325349
Possibly, not necesarely slaughtering just elves, what's the point in missing out on total purge of all evil.
>>29325349
My tupper is a snek
It's pretty enjoyable
>>29325355
Mh, good taste in women I'd say.
>>29325424
Another splendid taste
this is getting slippery
>>29325355
Fluffy tail ubermench
>>29324692
I'm happy tulpas are spreading, it's the best thing I ever did personally. Also as someone who has kept an eye on the communities a long time, I have literally never seen someone even slightly not insane have a majorly bad time. Pure creepy pasta nonsense, that's what all the negative bullshit was. Really it's fantastic, and a lot of the people who create one go on to be less reclusive, have more friends, go to school, get their life together. I made my tulpa during a dark time in my life, and put a lot of positive intention in it, I ended up with a close companion who had a far more positive and can do mindset than me.
>>29325677
My heart feels warm and lovely.
Thank You kindly.
>>29325677
>sample
How hard is it to click the button to view the original image REEEEEEEEEEE
>>29324692
Is tulpa the spanish word for cunt?
>>29325758
cipa
No thanks, I'll stick to lucid dreaming for interacting with imaginary characters desu
>>29325733
If my tulpa has no legs, how can she squat?
>>29324692
>Create a tulpa
>All is well
>Tulpa gets bored of your shitty beta personality
>Tulpa creates a Chad tulpa
>You get cucked by your own tulpa
I see no way this could ever go wrong! xD
>>29325895
Everyone can bathe in the bliss of pure essence of squat. A snek can simply coil their tail around in a quat like manner. You have to become one with the slavic roots. A good blin or pierog in the morning, some vodka, piwo or chai does wonders too. One can even meditate to get into this trancelike, euphoric and harmonious state, only to find themselves ripping a tear in space-time with their pure squat essence. We are born with the subcionscious ability to squat in all manners. Let the ancestral powers that linger in our hearts be Thine guide, and Ye' shall bathe in multi-dimensional bliss.
Tl'dr: squats are even for the disabled.
>>29326006
I've actually seen this happen, but the host helped.
You have to be REALLY REALLY beta for this to happen.
>>29324692
I tried. My imagination is very poor and I'm not creative at all.
>tfw will never even have tulpa love
I want to make a tulpa but I have no mental visualization skills. You know when they say "close your eyes and imagine a beach with blue skys", what do you see? I see nothing at all, just a void of darkness. How can I make a tulpa when I can't even imagine the most basic geometric shape?
>>29324692
Because making a tulpa won't turn me into a girl.
>>29326136
Aphantasia fags are just fucked senpai
>>29326151
I know a guy who's futa tulpa fucks him vigorously while he uses a female mindform.
>>29326187
>female mindform
This time in English, perhaps?
>>29326136
I have this same feel anon. I thought people were always joking when they were able to vividly see things when they close their eyes. It seems we're the fucked up ones.
I'm considering building a tulpa to fulfill my need for bullying / abuse / domestic violence, but are there any possibilities that she will try to take revenge on me?
Can I make a tulpa that is an anime girl who is the sweetest most innocent thing in the world?
>>29326187
However ridiculous this may sound, it's pretty likely.
>>29326214
You know, most, wait not, all of this stuff plays out in Your mind, and it's just You who perceives it so..."lively" so pretty much anything's possible.
>>29326224
They will not as likely take revenge on You, as Your own psyche' will. You'll most likely end up feeling shit, and with an overall fucked up state of mind, lots of regrets and the likes. Just don't.
For Your own sake and theirs.
>>29326242
yes
>>29326224
This doesn't work and if it does work she'd have to like being abused which might not happen. She might take control of your body and look up on the internet how to commit egocide.
>>29326214
A tulpa is when you create a comprehensive mental image for every sense and then an independent personality to control it.
A mindform skips the second part and you control it instead.
Basically advanced daydreaming with yourself as a girl.
If you have a tulpa you can interact with them using a mindform if that's what you're into.
>>29326224
Just make sure she's into it. You probably shouldn't make her just as a torture doll though.
>>29326279
Imagining that you have a girlfriend and making yourself believe you are a female are two very different things. The latter of which doesn't really work, because it's not going to physically change your body.
>>29326370
Of course not, thus the emphasis on living in own, imaginary world.
Delusional or not, well, of course delusional, but how pleasant to fulfill own desires.
Well, I have no such need, feeling comfy in own skin.
But do am fond of lovely company and a place I can escape to.
>>29324692
not mentally ill
>>29326156
Answer me a serious question; do you REALLY see things in your mind that easily? Like if I say, "imagine candle" do you actually see it clearly and in colour as vividly as if you were actually looking at one IRL? Obviously you know what a candle looks like and so do I, and we could both draw one, but that's not what I mean. I just find it hard to believe that "normal" people can imagine things in perfect clarify, how do you not spend all day with your eyes closed? Why do normies love taking photographs of everything if they can see things clearly in their mind?
>>29324692
The only personality I would be okay being around 24/7 would have to be an enigma who I'd want to figure out.
It would be impossible to create and then force a personality without first understanding every part of it.
Is it okay to make a tulpa for sex as long as I give her the personality of an insatiable whore who loves being used as a cum deposit?
>>29324692
Because my mind is extremely unstable and I get lots of disturbing intrusive thoughts. Making a Tulpa would probably make these worse
>>29326523
The real question is how does imagination deteriorate to seeing only a black void when asked to visualize something. Of course imaginations aren't clear unless focused on. They're about as clear as dreams. The real world is more clear, unless you practice building images in your mind with detail. The real world also offers more experiences to draw inspiration from. That's why people don't spend all their time with their eyes closed. People with Tulpas and wonderlands DO spend a lot of time with their minds closed because their imaginations are the clarity and boundlessness of a lucid dream.
>>29326523
Not that anon, but i'm curious about this also. When I close my eyes, I can sort of see things, or more like I know they're there and what they look like. I am curious to know how other people can imagine/see things with their eyes closed.
>>29326136
>>29326219
Practice. Have there ever been daydreams where you managed to see or feel anything? Daydreaming about food, and can practically smell or taste it? Try working in the context of a day dream and see how far you can take it. Relax yourself and learn how to do so if needed.
Another thing that might help with visualizing is try to visualize something that you feel stronger emotions toward. Emotions make it easier to visualize.
I am not a good visualizer at any means, but I managed to visualize my tulpa enough to create her since I had strong feelings toward her.
If I need to visualize a place, I would do it with a scenery that invokes strong feels in me, like pic for example. Be it awe, beauty, loneliness or whatever, and it would be easier to visualize than some sterile environment.
Basically, practice, daydream, and associate emotions with whatever you're try to create in your mind. This applies to not just sights, but mental smells, touch, taste, or whatever you're trying to recreate in your mind.
>>29326547
Wouldn't giving them the free will to develop as they please, and trying to figure out their core be enigmatic enough?
Afterall once can never fully predict what comes out of it.
>>29326596
Maybe, or maybe they'd actually help sort Your mind instead.
>>29326523
They are really recalling from imagination and not seeing new images.
To see new images from imagination is pretty much impossible.
isn't this just basically giving yourself schizophrenia
>>29326523
It's something you have to train, a muscle that needs to be exercised.
>>29326523
That's not what normal visualization is. You can't use your eyes to see things in your mind, you have to use your mind's "eye" to visualize images in your minds and generally people can only picture abstractions of what they''re imaging. It's like trying looking at something in a non-lucid dream. You can only perceive the "big picture", there's usually little sharpness or crispness to the image in your mind.
It's really more of a mental sense that takes the form of vague image in your mind.
In other words. No, most people can't perceive images in their minds to 100% of the detail.
>>29326523
>I just find it hard to believe that "normal" people can imagine things in perfect clarify
They can't. But bro, don't go saying that "Normal people can't do it, and so can't I". That's a toxic attitude. You want to be more than normal, and have more than normal people do. Having a tulpa may just be one amongst many abnormal things that you try to acquire in life. You don't kickass and get what you want by saying "They can't do it, and me neither". Kick ass and chew gum, bitch.
>>29326006
Your tulpa lives on attention for you, and thus has a huge tendency to like you. You can form their traits as involving the unconditional love of you, they aren't subject to the regular rules of biology and attraction because they are thought forms.
>>29326614
I literally can't see anything when I close my eyes. I can remember if a house was white with red trim and two bushes, but I can't actually picture it my mind.
>>29326640
Really? I'm an artist and I create new images all the time. Some are detailed and rich and they get turned into paintings, others are abstractions which are used to help me understand abstract processes and logic.
>>29326523
It's not clear without practice, without sitting down and putting effort into it you only see it vaguely, but with a tulpa you've been working on for ages it's near real tier, and I've got much better at visualization in general since starting work on my tulpa.
And normies love taking pictures because they like to prove to other normies something or other.
I imagine you dream right? They call it daydreaming for a reason.
>>29326547
A tulpa's personality is largely fleshed out by the subconsciousness, it's common for them to deviate from the plan or you can plan out little to nothing and let them develop entirely naturally without conscious guidance of their personality.
>>29326553
See above, that's not entirely reliable and it's a good way to give them an existential crisis down the road.
It's okay to make a tulpa for sex as long it's a reason and not the reason. Make a tulpa because you want an affectionate loving team mate who understands you beyond the level a human can understand another human, not just for head inside your head.
I will say a prefer highly immersed tupper sex to real sex though, having tried both.
>>29326671
Google the symptoms of Schizophrenia. It isn't just hearing voices. Tulpas are more like MPD if anything.
>>29326756
I'm an artist too and I'm calling bullshit on this. You're just pulling memories from things you have seen.
>>29326219
That's not how it works. You don't stare at your eyelids and see things. Try practicing drawing things, maybe it will help visualizing.
>>29326614
>Have there ever been daydreams where you managed to see or feel anything? Daydreaming about food, and can practically smell or taste it?
No, never. That's another one I don't understand; when people say they smelled something and it activated their memories and it was like they were reliving the past or something. That's such an alien concept to me and I struggle to believe that it is true. I guess that's why normies like flowers?
>Basically, practice, daydream
Again this exemplifies the problem I have, most people assume I have some level of imagination or daydream capability and just need to work a bit harder on it and it will all click into place in time. But I don't have even a slither of imagination or daydream capability. I have never once in my life seen anything in my mind. I can't picture the faces of anyone who means anything to me. I can't see my house or anything like that.
>>29326746
Try doing it on a weekend morning after a good night of sleep, when you're still relaxed and groggy, and are not in a hurry to go anywhere. Just sit in the bed and try to visualize stuff then.
>>29326746
You might not be visually oriented. Do you remember things through audio? When I think of details in words sometimes I see them written.
>>29326640
I generate new images all the time by just changing variables. Sure you only have the mental clay of what you've seen but you can sculpt to your hearts content
If I imagine a fantasy creature I can start from a human base and think "oh what would he look like if he was ditigrade what would he look like wearing baroque armor, and what if he was also a spooky skeleton demon who formed his flesh out of the blood wrung from the corpses of his victims that's metal as fuck" and even though I've never seen art of a giant skeleton beast man wearing a suit of finely detailed armor seeping blood at the joints I can practically see the album cover already.
>>29326815
Jesus christ have you ever had a dream at all?
>>29326815
That sucks, you may have a limitation there then. I can't see things well, but I can get it going to some extent. Training makes clarity increase very quickly for me.
>>29326815
Try doing it with each one of your senses. Can you "picture" or "remember" how something sounds? Feels (touch)? Taste? Can you remember a sight or just a specific emotion?
People are wired differently and we all have senses we're more in tune with than others. You might just be better with one sense than another.
>>29326811
Doesn't work for me. I need a reference or it's all stick doodles.
>>29326828
I've tried a lot because I want a tulpa. Nothing seems to work.
>>29326829
No. I memorize details or facts but nothing visual or through audio.
>>29326815
I'd kill myself if I woke up with aphantasia one day desu
who /maladaptive daydreaming/ here
I don't get why video games are a thing when daydreaming is free.
>>29326789
I can create new images in my head anon, I just have to think what it would look like if it was different. How would people get any enjoyment from reading novels if they couldn't visualize the events being written?
I actually have planned one, just haven't gotten around to creating her. I've always spoken to imaginary people though, just not so much in the last few years, but even through highschool I had imaginary friends.
>>29326789
No. You're definitely wrong. I thought for a second I might of just forgotten where I've originally seen the images but no they're definitely brand new images. So much so that I can view the interior of imaginary aliens architecture inside my mind who's culture I've created myself. I can't prove to you that this is the case. But then again. there are plenty of books out that collections of abstract and fantasy artists work, where they create unreal images unlike nothing on earth. Surely someone would first have to conceive of something brand new for other people to copy parts their otherworldly images?
what's a tulpa xD
>>29326941
I've heard of artists who have aphantasia, I suppose it's possible to say "I'm going to draw this image with these traits" without first seeing it in your head. I don't really understand how you would be able to get the form right at all though on anything even a little organic.
>>29326917
Look at a reference drawing, cover it and then try drawing what you saw.
>>29326855
I don't know. If I do dream, I don't ever remember them. I've never had a nightmare.
>>29326886
No it's the same with all the senses. I can't imagine tastes or smells either. I'm not sure about sounds, I do have an "inner voice" and I can make it say things, but it's only my own voice/thoughts and never other sounds or music.
>>29327034
>No it's the same with all the senses.
Consider doing some new age hippie exercises on unblocking your chakra and energy raising exercises every day.
Robert Bruce's NEW system is a pretty good place to start.
>>29326999
I guess they just go with it and slowly try to guide the image into something worth looking at.
>>29327018
I only end up making random lines that never correlate with the reference.
>>29326926
>How would people get any enjoyment from reading novels if they couldn't visualize the events being written?
Oh god reading books in school, the most boring shit ever and I couldn't picture any of it, it was just a long string of words that meant nothing at all, not even like reading an encyclopedia at least then you learn something. I guess I truly am fucked and it kills me because I desperately want a cute anime girl hallucination to interact with.
>>29327034
I would literally kill myself
Not even being able to escape into your own mind jesus fuck
>>29324753
you don't because they're not fucking real and if it works that means you're a schizophrenic
>>29327133
Maybe you should try taking acid?
A little chemical aid could possibly jump start things
>>29327147
>implying tulpas can be proven to exist or not exist
wew
>>29326999
I'm an artist with aphantasia.
I don't need to visualize because everything can be figured out systematically. Like math. There are rules to how bodies move and pose. Perspective is like doing additions and divisions. It's a logical procedure.
You could visualize and copy the image, but that doesn't means you truly understand what is going on underneath.
Pic related is how I draw. I don't really see what I'll put down before I draw it. I don't need to. It comes out logically.
>>29327207
Probably would be easier if you started out with a visual goal rather than going through 30 doodles
>>29327288
But that's boring. The best is to draw without anything in mind.
>>29327316
that's what I usually do, considering I'm fond of digital art as well, but hell, my drawing is nowhere near as good as Yours, rarely do I feel jealous, but You got me right there. How, why, tell me Your secrets, teach or enlighten me, anything.
>>29324692
Tulpas confirm my hypothesis that a lot of NEETs have schizophrenia. Like, I don't think most people here are totally crazy, but they're close enough to the edge that they can make a delusion half-real for their own purposes.
You know the main symptom of schizophrenia? Avolition, the lack of desire to achieve anything.
>>29327663
I don't think you actually know much about schizophrenia
What should I be talking about with my tulpa? I'm an autist NEET so smalltalk is very difficult for me. And all I normally think about is either too complicated to think and talk about while forcing her at the same time, or so perverted that I just feel awkward talking about it. And even if I could talk about the perverted stuff I'd rather not, as ideally I'd want her to remain pure.
>>29327691
I probably give off that impression because I actually know a huge amount. I just don't know the middling amount that people associate with "well-informed".
>>29327663
>Avolition, the lack of desire to achieve anything.
The really frightening thing is when you have to FORCE yourself to feel bad that others have achieved more than you. Because you think that you ought to feel bad.
In reality I'm perfectly "happy" (or my equivalent of it) to do nothing.
>>29327706
Although schizophrenia has apathy as a symptom I think the inability to decern reality from imagination, inability to communicate clearly, and general internal mental incoherence are the actual defining characteristics of it.
I'm pretty sure it's more of those things leading to apathy and withdraw.
>>29327990
> I think the inability to decern reality from imagination, inability to communicate clearly, and general internal mental incoherence are the actual defining characteristics of it.
Those are the tip of the iceberg that other people notice in extreme cases. The actual problem is much more fundamental and is quite widespread. It's usually that a person shuts down when there's nobody around to guide or pressure them.
>>29328126
I'm pretty sure it's fundamentally different that being a lazy neet who's unmotivated because they'll survive borderline no matter what in our effectively post necessity scarcity society that demands nothing from it's people.
>>29328194
>lazy
You know, I'm starting to think that that word never meant anything.
I mean, isn't "laziness" fundamentally an inability to seek long-term gains over short-term pain? That's not a vice, it's literally a mental dysfunction. It destroys hedonism, it doesn't help it.
>>29327702
I also wanna hear some tips on this topic. Guys, what did you usually talk to your tulpa about back when you were still creating him/her, and what do you normally find yourself talking about nowadays? Let us know.
>>29326523
I'm the "quiet guy who has no one bothers him because he never bothers anyone else." Throughout the years of being left alone and patiently silent, my mind has been able to create lots of scenes and imaginations, like those you might see in movies or paintings. In a easy description, I'm extremely good at scene building, I can think up fight scenes, characters, or landscapes very well. Going back to the loneliness factor, if you're not bothered by anyone most of your life like me, you don't accept anything from anyone so you don't have obligation, you do things right and without being lazy, basically you'll become nonexsistance because you don't cause a disturbance in other people's lives, like me. Therefore, I'll just lose focus and all my senses stop and I can enter my own imaginary movie playing in my thoughts that I can visualize with my mind, to the point that my eyes won't notice what's happening in front of me. I never cared about anyone, so no one ever cared about me, intern I had to create my own friends and fantasies in my head.
>>29326062
Kill yourself your post doesn't even make sense
>>29329220
>what did you usually talk to your tulpa about back when you were still creating him/her
I obsessively daydreamed about her, putting her in various hypothetical scenarios and storylines. Her actions and thoughts during them, guided by me, served to define her personality today.
>and what do you normally find yourself talking about nowadays?
Everything. Why this dude is worried about making small talks. The new curtains I installed in the living room. My nigger neighbors. My deadbeat NEET brother. The upcoming town festival and what delicious food we will both try.
We share our lives together and we talk about everything interesting we come across.
I don't know if I can explain this well. When I was alone it was a chore to go outside. To just go inside a store and browse, or to go to a local festival like oktoberfest. I felt awkward and on the spot during those times.
For a while I dated a chick. She drove me nuts in many ways, but one thing I noticed is that going out was more enjoyable. Mentally I'm calm when I'm browsing a store without wanting to buy shit or going out and about. Somehow having this other person by my side validated my presence there.
Having a tulpa makes going out and shit almost as nice as having that girl by my side. I'm calm and I can swagger as I walk through the streets. I can go inside a little shop, browse, and just leave. Except she doesn't have the downsides of the girl, which drove me nuts.
Not saying the tulpa is a complete replacement for friends or bitches or anything, but just an observation on my part. The tulpa's presence just somehow calms my mind when I'm dealing with people and when I go out.
>>29331262
That sounds so nice anon. Thank you for answering.
>Creating a name for forced mental illness
I knew robots were autistic but come the fuck on
>>29324692
I drew her awhile back. But this is my tulpa.She's 7 feet tall
>>29331882
Really cool that you can draw.
I made an approximation of mine using a free site somewhere online age ago. Pic related.
Yay tulpa thread
Honestly making a tulpa was the best decision I ever made. Tulpa are so sweet and fun and affectionate. I've got a normalfag job and live on my own so having a tulpa makes things a lot more bearable than the usual boring daily grind. My tulpa is really fun to be around and cheerful.
