What does it mean to have a Madonna/Whore Complex? How do I get
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What does it mean to have a Madonna/Whore Complex? How do I get over it?
I've been told I have one, but I don't understand.
it means you want to fuck 1985-era madonna but you'll settle for a whore dressed up as her
>>29295809
Okay
What?
I know for sure that I don't want either of those things
>>29295782
>>29295819
It's garbage armchair psychology made up by sluts and roasties to justify them being garbage-tier women.
Don't worry about it.
>>29295819
are you SURE
are you sure you don't want to fuck this
>>29295829
But what does it mean? I know it's unreasonable to judge a woman by her virginity, but people still tell me I have this complex
>>29295844
I'm pretty fucking sure.
>>29295782
It means you divide women into "Madonnas": pure virgin marraige material and "Whores": sluts who are only good for sex
I've never heard of a guy having it as a complex. It's normally a film trope that women in movies are either pure or a whore, and their is no in between. I guess if you've been told that you only see women in that way.
>>29295887
Sounds reasonable for me.
If a man doesn't know the difference between a slut who's there for a pump and dump and a nice girl who deserves a relationship then he will get cucked in an instant.
>>29295887
This seems like a reasonable thing that all men do
What man would treat his high school sweetheart the same way he treats some dime bag whore?
>>29296073
This complex also connects to the fact that in the same time you cannot be sexually satisfied by the pure madonna, since we minute relationship with her turns sexual, you put her in the "whore" box.
It happens- for example infamous bjork stalker said that he cannot imagine her in sexual way because he "loved her".
>>29296116
See: >>29296121
It basically entails that you will never be satisfied in relationship since no woman can fit on the pedestal of pure madonna, while you still have the need to use "whores" for sex.
If we're discussing the actual Frued term, then it's basically about men who are unable to maintain sexual arousal while in a long term relationship. Basically, men want to marry the whore because they think to highly of the Madonna and can't get aroused.
Think bizarro /r9k/
IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>29296152
But that's bullshit. As long as she's a slut only for him, and man will be happy. The entire religion of Islam works this way and seems to function well enough.
>>29296180
Well its not healthy situation that happens to the majority of society. But it can happen. Combined with what >>29296172 says.
>>29296121
>>29296121
>he cannot imagine her in sexual way because he "loved her"
This shit is old news. More than 500 years ago, aristocrats were writing love poems for girls they crushed on and longed for but couldn't do the same for their wives, i.e. women who they actually have been intimate with.
>>29296194
No one says, this complex is something new.
>>29296121
I don't get this part because if she only had sex with me she's not ruined for me, just others. I think waiting for marriage would be ideal but people can't control themselves.
>>29296208
Just wanted to chime in with my example of poetry. Those faggots were doing the same thing that many robots do over in the waifu and some of the oneitis threads: obsess over a girl they might not even have talked to and idealize her looks and "her virtue" to no end.
>>29296180
If she's bad at sex, she is getting her bread buttered elsewhere and isn't putting in the effort with you.
If she's good, then how did she get good? By fucking Chads on the side.
>>29296232
There are people like that, I met few guy who didnt do sexual stuff with their gfs because it would somehow "taint them". For some, even to acknowledge that his perfect pure gf has a sexual side is too much (while they go back to hardcore porn to jerk off).
>>29296232
>I think waiting for marriage would be ideal
Then wait for it.
>I don't get this part because if she only had sex with me she's not ruined for me
If you're a virgin, you don't know that for sure. Maybe you'd be disgusted by one of the things your gf might want to try with you.
>>29296283
As long as she shows no interest in other people I don't care. But I still believe that things should be taken slowly. One your married though I figure anything that's exclusive is fine if both people are ok with it.
>>29296253
Or she just assumes a passive role like 99% of women always do.
>>29296232
Think of it in a marriage sense. You have sex with your wife or girlfriend and ultimately your wife gives birth to your child. She becomes the madonna at that point and some guys have a problem fucking the madonna in the ass and blowing a load on her face.
>>29296324
As long as you can accept that (normal) women are sexual beings that find men attractive and get aroused, you should be fine. Don't fall into the pit falls of "pure waifu" faggotry.
>>29296180
>The entire religion of Islam
Good thing that you brought up Islam. Many muslims have issues with doing kinky "degenerate" things with their wives and visit prostitutes on the side. The wife is for "normal" vaginal sex only. They go to prostitutes to get their dicks sucked and their asses licked.
>>29296357
Right, but I still expect them to have enough self control to wait for the right person. If she does then I won't think of her as a whore even if she sucks his dick 24/7
>>29296396
You can think of others whatever you want. After all, it is current year and all of that. If you want a virgin, then do your best to get with one.
>>29296445
I've been trying, I had one but she had bad friends I wasn't able to keep away from her so I just ended it. I've been trying to find one for a few months now, maybe in the fall.
>>29296396
How many things do most people get right on their first time? Not bait, but sounds like expecting fantasy situations in real life.
>>29296515
There's nothing wrong with dating but having the restraint to not get intimate unless you're sure about that person isn't impossible.
>>29295887
Wow so dividing people by how they differ is a "psychological complex".
I guess people have a fuckable-unfuckable complex or an attractive-unattractive complex by considering whether people are fuckable/attractive or not and treating them differently accordingly.
everyone in here is an idiot and most of you don't understand what you are even talking about.
>>29296597
Says you, virgin
>>29296597
if you don't want to fuck madonna in her prime you are a faggot and a fool
>>29296549
But being sure at one point doesn't mean it stays that way. If you're having sex pre marriage nothing is written in stone and even then nothing is garaunteed. If your OK with sex before marriage as long as its with you, you're falling for the same trap that the people you think aren't worthy did.
>>29296253
The only thing about sex that girls need a lot of practice to get good at are blowjobs and hand jobs. Everything else they pick up pretty quickly just by being horny.
And if you're fucking a girl you can obviously teach her to get better at giving blowjobs.
No man is going to be unhappy if a girl whose virginity he has taken wants to have hot sex with him
>>29296614
I already said I plan to wait for marriage.
You are all wrong. Madonna complex is when a man finds "sluts" more exciting and will only want to be with a girl if she is promiscuous while finding pure or virgin good girls as turn offs. I know a friend who only likes dating girls who act like sluts and been around. He actually forced his now girlfriend (who was a virgin good girl) to give some guy a blowjob before he would date her.
>>29295782
it's a pretty common thing that many, if not most men have.
where you love you can't lust and vice versa.
you want two women: a pure virginal innocent waifu to love and dote over, and a filthy depraved slut whore to choke herself on your cock, fuck every hole and fill with cum.
Macedoniadjd
>>29296385
No you're confusing different issues.
They don't usually visit prostitutes because they're unwilling to cum on their wives' faces or whatever in order to keep their wives pure.
They either visit prostitutes because their wife is less attractive and they want to fuck an attractive girl, or because they are unmarried and the only way to get laid in Muslim countries before you are married is often to see a prostitute, or because they are gay/bisexual and so need to see a tranny or make prostitute to feel satisfied.
Islamic cultural decency is mostly unconcerned with what goes on in the bedroom between husband and wife. There's a something of a meme/ attitude /saying tgat goes "it's halal if it's for your husband"
>>29296663
Why would a girl put up with that
>>29296708
girls are stupid. Especially when they are innocent and fall for a guy.
>>29296662
Sorry didn't catch that.
well, women have a chad/chad complex
>>29296663
no, that's completely wrong. also your friend is just a cuck.
>>29296775
women have a family man-badboy complex.
i.e. they want a high status provider to raise the children they produce with the exciting, irresponsible badboy.
>>29296719
Why does it seem like girls always fall for the worst people?
>>29295782
>What does it mean to have a Madonna/Whore Complex?
It means that women can't grasp the concept of a man wanting a wife who A)enjoys sex and B)doesn't cheat on him.
>>29296910
So they want women who don't exist?
Sexual gratification and monogamy are mutually exclusive
>>29296803
In the west, maybe.
Move to a better country, bro
>>29296682
>you want two women: a pure virginal innocent waifu to love and dote over, and a filthy depraved slut whore to choke herself on your cock, fuck every hole and fill with cum.
is there something wrong with this? because i don't see anything wrong with this
this is basically the equivalent of women wanting an empathetic gentlemen who will also deep dick their brains out
>>29298500
The problem is that many men believe the two women are mutually exclusive and can't be found in the same woman.
A woman cannot at the same time being a loving sweet mother and a cock sucking whore
>>29295782
Is it just me or is this bitch got a neck one inch too long
>all these normies talking about sex
>>29299413
Just think, if you weren't such a pussy bitch, you could talk about sex too
>>29299539
what'd did you just say to me?
>>29299987
Pussy
Ass
Beeeeeeee-itch
>>29295887
I think men and women who divide people over social constructs in general are full of shit, in general (speaking from my own very extensive personal experience that made me decide to NEET and self-employ instead).
It's not just the problem with men thinking that virgin women are always worth more than a non-virgin. Women have the same sort of meme standards and you're all fucking retarded for it. But some of us do have to waste their lives worrying about social constructs and being absolutely blind to better and bigger things in life. Someone has to be the cog.
>>29295844
Like a surgeon
HEY
>>29299539
Fuck off normalcunt
