I don't understand NoFap. On Reddit thousands of betas claim
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I don't understand NoFap. On Reddit thousands of betas claim by not masturbating everything in their lives turn for the better and they suddenly aren't betas anymore. For me however, I need to masturbate. If I don't masturbate I get irritable, noticeably more angry, clueless, make poor decisions, can't concentrate, lose my ability to be clever, get frequent inconvenient erections, and just overall act and perform like a much worse different version of myself. If anyone remembers that episode of Seinfeld where they all abstain from masturbating, "The Contest", Elaine seems to be affected for the worse with George being affected for the better. I think of myself as Elaine and George as the horde of betas.
I masturbate every day or every other day as it's a bodily function. It's not something I choose to do it's a fucking physical need that I'm almost required to do.
So /r9k/ what's the deal? Is there something wrong with me or something wrong with them? Why are there so many internet betas claiming that ejaculating is bad for you? Have any of you tried it? What are your experiences?
>>29275796
I don't know either. I have similar experiences, though. The pent up energy makes me rage.
>>29275796
You're addicted. It prevents you from normal social interaction.
Since humans are social beings, robbing yourself of any social activities is probably pretty painful.
From now on, don't masturbate for a month. The first week will be hard, try being outside more and don't look at any porn whatsoever.
I only do nofap if I know I will be having sex within a few days.
>>29275854
I think it only works for people with low test and/or betas. A regular male has to ejaculate regularly, our bodies were made for it. It's not fucking normal to abstain ejaculating that long.
its a tricky subject because personal accounts seem to different
the most i went without pmo was 30 days, i noticed my emotions were stronger, so sad was really sad and happy was very happy
i had a sharper mind although because I have anxiety that would come along and cloud everything anyway
now i dont try no fap anymore because its too hard and I feel better after having a sexual release, it takes my mind off of women so much
>>29275796
NoFap is addressing the symptom of a shitty life and not the cause
>>29275872
But I'm actually not addicted to masturbation. I can choose to masturbate or not masturbate whenever I want but I just have really bad side effects from NOT ejaculating.
>>29275796
I used to fap three times a day every day in the week. Before no fap I was homeless, without a job, no girlfriend and no friends. After I stopped fapping I got a job, a big house, friends and married to the woman I had a crush at in high school. Listen, if you do not believe in nofap that's alright, but it managed to turn my life around. Nobody is going to take that away from me
Faping is not bad unless you do it like 6 times a day and are totally drained from any vitality. Also the thing that is bad is masturbating to porn/pictures or whatever, im pretty sure many of you,including myself, fap to facebook girls, one hand choking the chicken and the other one clicking the arrow to the next picture, eventually increasing the clicks speed as you're about to cum, well that shit is pretty bad for your brain receptors, cant remember which ones , but look it up anyways, faping to porn in general is bad in the long term, try to use your imaginations instead of whatever you look up on the computer to fap.
>pic kinda related
>>29275796
If I don't fap I am more focused less worried and take more risks, I keep that excited feeling
If I fap I want to sit down go to sleep or just do something low energy, which is basically sitting at the computer
I regret fapping after I fap
>>29275955
> I can quit drinking any time I want, I just don't want to
> I can quit gambling any time I want, I just don't want to
> I can quit shooting up any time I want, I just don't want to
>>29275796
I've fapping a whole lot less over the past month and I haven't noticed a single difference. No-Fap is a dumb meme with no scientific basis to back it up.
>>29275796
it's literally virtue signaling family.
because there's no reason to boast about such retarded thing. Like I wouldn't be comfortable with someone just running up to me and say "I don't masturbade :^D"
>>29276060
>set up a self help community on the internet
>you are boasting, I will never stop touching my self not even for a week!
>>29275796
It's the mental state ejaculating puts you in.
For example sometimes I jerk off before I meet an ugly girl online. Mainly because when I'm hanging with her I won't be horny, I won't give in my desire to stick my dick into her juicy fat wet ugly pussy. I usually wait a few dates before I do that.
Other times you just need to jerk off to stop thinking about a bitch from real life. Either way, ejaculating eases up your desire to talk with women. Nofap basically makes you a thirsty nigga--thirsty for pussy.
>>29275796
I lasted 6 days without fapping , I became and animal I wanted to fuck every girl I saw, couldn't concentrate, was horny all the time, somehow even the ugly girls were 8/10. boy it was fun but i was needed to ended can't work like that
>>29276051
But I CAN. I've gone weeks without masturbating and I can stop if I had to. I'm saying that I highly prefer to masturbate since not masturbating causes too many bad side effects. I believe that high porn use or masturbation is linked to a high libido and not an addiction. The logic nofap uses is retarded and pseudo science backed by biased anecdotes.
>>29276021
You need to be a non-virgin to fap like that. You would combine memory with imagination and have a great fap.
You can't do that when you're a virgin. It's like how you can't have sex in dreams until you've had it for real.
>>29275796
its god to not masturbate much, but it wont turn you into superman tho, look at that fucking nu male in op's pic, stills looks like a cuck to me and doesnt seem a bit happy with his current position in life tbqhwyf
NoFap is a meme that internet betas use to get a false sense of accomplishment. They feel that they did something because it was difficult, but in reality it doesnt change anything.
In the past I had a period when I tried to become a normie, and at that time I did nofap for 6 months. Only the first 2 weeks were difficult (I got random boners through the day) and after that everything was the same, except I had one less source of stress relief.
Also see pic related.
>>29275912
get a load of this alpha stud who has to jerk himself off
"I haven't jerked off all day, watch out ladies my true alpha is showing my body was made for it, heh a regular male like my self has to ejaculate regularly."
>>29276100
helpful towards what exactly ?
wether u fap or not doesn't really matter, becuase it differs largely from person to person. There has also not been a study conducted wether it's better to not fap, or to do.
>>29275796
>Why are there so many internet betas claiming that ejaculating is bad for you?
Because some people, generally teenagers, overdo it. Doing it too much is taxing on the body and the mind.
I've yet to see anything resembling proof that it's bad to do it in moderation (moderation being: whenever you like, without it feeling excessive)
I'm not getting horny any more at all. If i feel the slightest arousal maybe once every two weeks i'll masturbate. But then there's back to two weeks without. Can depression/anxiety really affect sex drive this much?
>>29276168
>here is a forum post by someone anonymous that has no sources to back up his long personal rants
Honestly who gives a shit. If something like that is holding you back, there must not be much to hold back.
>>29276265
Well put, anonymous wise man.
>>29276209
So Chad ejaculates regularly while betas do NoFap? What does that mean?
>>29275796
Not masturbating is only good for a week or 2 before you start getting adverse effects. Masturbating isn't so bad as long as its not out of control.
The issue is pornography. Porn is bad no matter what.
>>29276142
when I started fapping at 12 I would just jack it off while thinking about avril lavigne in that girlfriend music video, no pictures or anything, just closed my eyes and thought about her, obviously I stopped doing that when I got internet but I didnt lose my virginity until january of this year, so you just have to put your mind to use, no need to be an unvirgin normie
>HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Staying away from hardcore porn isn't such a bad idea though
>>29276142
>You can't do that when you're a virgin. It's like how you can't have sex in dreams until you've had it for real.
This is not true.
t. virgin
>>29276265
Yeah I'm actually doing fairly well in life compared to 6 years ago. I just come to /r9k/ for a good laugh every now and then
>>29276305
Why? Porn seems cool, it's just people fucking what's so weird about that ?
If masturbating often helps you feel better, then do it.
If masturbating often is a hindrance or distraction on your life, then stop it.
That was hard
>>29275796
I never understood this nofap thing either. Its like bragging about holding your piss for an extra 5 minutes before going to the toilet
>>29276335
I still do this, especially after womyn flirt at me, it is such a better orgasm. Softcore porn doesn't do give me such good orgasms. I do not watch hardcore stuff.
>>29276168
>Problematic
Dropped.
>>29276350
It is true. You're not a virgin. You were molested, anon.
>>29276357
If you're like me and you began jerking off to porn your teenage years, there some real issues to prepare for. I jerked off at least 1-5 times a week every week for years, almost exclusively to porn.
As a result, I began watching more and more depraved shit to get off. This causes a feeling of guilt and shame deep down, even if you don't consciously realize it.
It also leads to death grip. Over years, without realizing it, chances are you've used the same hand/technique to jerk off. Over time you probably start gripping it tighter and tighter progressively. You find when you actually have sex, you can't finish or even really enjoy it because you're so used to your own hands stimulation.
The worse effect is the porn induced ED. When I finally was about to have sex for the first time in real life, I couldn't even get a boner. I was in bed with 2 girls, a dream come true, but my dick was 100% flaccid. Even with lots of effort on their part to get things going, years of conditioning were going against me. I ended up going home in complete failure.
Even later when I had the chance with my gf, it took multiple tries before I finally got a hard on. Throughout our relationship I would constantly lose boners midway through fucking, would have to go in the bathroom and start jerking off alone to finally get a boner, etc.
It's humiliating and you don't want that shit to happen to you. If you're never getting laid, then whatever. But if there's even a small chance; I highly recommend you just stick to your imagination.
>>29276601
I fapped all the fucking time forever. Lost v-card at 24 after falling multiple times a day since I could fap.
Never had ED. Could fuck her and it felt great.
Maybe your issue was low test, to which fapping might have contributed.
Or maybe I got real lucky.
>>29276601
Porn is like all things , if you go the degenerate path, you fucking stop for a few days, and about not getting hard doesn't happen to me, If a girl touches me I got hard immediately muh dick doesn't know decency
I wanted to see if there is any truth to the nofap agenda so I gave it a shot.
>Currently on day 16
>brainfog is noticeably better and I find that my vocabulary is suddenly richer because I think of more words and my thoughts flow more easily
>I feel more present
>apathy is lessened and I laugh more with my friends
>sense of humor seems improved. I was always the funny guy in the group but now even more so. This is probably related to the lessened brainfog
>anxiety is better - I can function better in school, I cringe less, and can talk more freely to girls,even though I still avoid it. Im not more confident, just feel the anxiety less
>memory is better
>more energy for workouts and whatever
>the wildest fucking dreams. I dream sooooo much every night and even when I go get a nap
>there are more, smaller and subtle things but I think I've covered most of it
Plot twist:
>I don't know whether it works because I also stopped smoking weed and cigs 20 days ago so probably this was a larger factor
>>29277409
It's definitely the weed.
>>29277409
Yeah, it was the weed and cigs.
>>29277458
>>29277571
Yeah, I suppose it is true. Still, Im going to give it another shot when Im smoking weed to be sure. There are some effects that I haven't noticed in previous tolerance breaks. I always start dreaming again when Im not smoking weed, but never that fucking much.
Also previous T-breaks haven't done so much for my anxiety.
idk, man, imo everyone needs to try for themselves. If anything, it's a good exercise of willpower
>I get irritable, noticeably more angry, clueless, make poor decisions, can't concentrate, lose my ability to be clever, get frequent inconvenient erections
these are good things
>irritable, noticeably more angry, clueless, make poor decisions, can't concentrate, lose my ability to be clever, get frequent inconvenient elections
That's normie behavior
>implying it's a bad thing in getting your life back together
