Who /prudeparents/ here?
My father is very religious and actively tries to stop me from masturbating. I'm nineteen and NEET.
>Go to my room
>"Why is the door closed?"
>Start habitually locking my door in the hopes he won't think anything of it
>"Stop locking your door, there's no need to do that"
>Go to my room in the middle of the day to fap
>"What are you doing in there?"
>If I'm awake with electronics past 9PM and he is still awake, he will tell me to go to bed or express discomfort the next morning
>He will literally pick the lock to my door and/or climb up the stairs to try to catch me and make me stop
>Expresses how "living life alone" (not referring to relationships) is "wrong" and "no better than masturbation"
>Sternly asks why room smells like lotionobviously I'm a cutlet
>Repeatedly says if I have extra energy I should get off of the computer and exercise rather than masturbatewhich I've done, it doesn't help at all, if I don't fap I'll just cum in my sleep
This is just the tip of the iceberg. It's not even like I'm addicted to it, fapping twice a week is a lot for me. Any other robots know this feel? It doesn't seem to be too common.
Daily reminder that sex is healthy and natural and good goys should masturbate to porn every day
Sounds like you should just fap in church.
Just straight up tell him you're trying to masturbate and he'll leave you alone.
Damn americans act like their parents are complete strangers
>>29230815
Protestant culture is perfectionistic to the extreme mate.
>>29230772
How old are you? Why don't you move out?
>>29230788
Except he'd object even more strongly to sex, did you not read where I said he was religious? His issue is not that I'm a loser and not having sex but that I'm lustful and that's wrong.
>>29230867
In the third sentence, I haven't the finances and the last thing I want is to give up the NEET life. While I understand it's his house and thus his rules apply, I feel as though I should be able to do whatever I like as long as it does not directly harm others or myself in my own room--something like drugs I could understand an objection to, maybe if I was addicted to fapping, too, but he clearly has a problem if I do it at all. As I said, I do it once a week at most usually, sometimes two, sometimes I go a weeks without it.
>>29230815
He won't, as his problem is me masturbating. Admitting that would only make the situation worse, he'd threaten to kick me out.
I can't believe parents like this exist, such an unhealthy attitude
Fap in the bathroom and tell your dad your getting changed if your doors shut/get him to catch you getting changed and act really embarrassed about it
You sound pretty young, just tough it out for a few years and move out as soon as possible, spaz parent like that will do a fucking number on you if you live with him into your 20's
>>29230953
>Fap in the bathroom and tell your dad your getting changed if your doors shut/get him to catch you getting changed and act really embarrassed about it
This would work, but my fap sessions last for at least forty five minutes, I couldn't fake getting changed that long, even if I got caught doing so he'd ask what I was doing before.
>>29230772
>get a girlfriend son, your room smells like a French bordello
>how dare you impede my self pleasures father
>stop fucking masturbating on the sheets
>no
>>29230772
I wish I had a dad like that, at least make me realize that fapping is cancer. Ive been through all my teenhood fapping 3-4 times a day, thinking its all right thanks to the jew media.
>>29230772
You'll only regret upsetting your Dad when he gets old, and he's only trying to do what he think is best for you.
Just do nofap for a month and see how you feel. Maybe try and get a cushy low-effort job which should be enough to appease your father.
>>29231012
>Being retarded on purpose
He's religious, he would have just as much of a fucking problem with me having sex, if not more, due to the risk of children, STDs, etc. than he would masturbating.
>>29231087
I've done nofap for three years, with two lapses. All it did was make me cum in my sleep almost literally every other day.
>>29231113
My dad asks me how to clear porn from his browsing history
>>29231113
Hrm, sounds bad man. But what about getting some shit night watchman job where you don't have to do anything other than sit there and browse 4chan?
>>29231242
I thought that was a meme? Surely they have security cameras they can review to see if you're actually patrolling or just sitting there goofing off.
>>29231052
Fapping 3-4 times a day is not all right?
>>29230772
'Certain of those who are not subjected to the rite of circumcision do escape this disease of 'onanism," but these rare exceptions are the children of parents who are cultured in the full sense of the word, and who understand clearly that the future normal mentation of their children depends exclusively upon whether they do or do not suffer from this disease in their childhood or youth.
" 'Such cultured parents know full well that if their children experience in their nervous system the sensation of the climax of what is called the "ooamonooanossnian process" even once before they reach maturity, they will never be fully capable of normal mentation when they become adult, and hence these parents always consider it their first and chief duty toward their children to educate them in this respect.
" 'Unlike most contemporary parents, they do not consider that the education of children consists in badgering them to learn by rote as much poetry as possible, composed by "moordoortenist psychopaths," or in teaching them to shake hands politely with their friends and acquaintances, for in keeping with the notions of people of our times, unfortunately it is these "accomplishments" which constitute the whole education of children today.
>>29231292
Your job isn't to patrol the site 24/7. Most of the time you're the one watching the security cameras. Depends on the place really, but patrolling would either be only for high-risk areas or buildings without many security cameras or alarms. At most you'd only have to walk round the site a couple times.
>>29231329
tl;dr you're lucky I wish I had your parents (though I'm helping myself, if you want to you can do it)
> Parents incredibly anti-trans
> Enforce gender roles very strictly
> Get in trouble if I'm out late, with boys, etc
> Even mad I have male friends at school
> Want me to go to local uni
> I call UCAS and get my first choice changed to a more prestigious uni miles away
> Get in
> Go, after many tears and tantrums from my parents
> Get through it, dressing in my own style
> Leave, get good job, be a transman, move in with sexy gay bf
Fuck parents who think they can beat the gay/trans out of someone!
>>29230915
>I haven't the finances and the last thing I want is to give up the NEET life.
>reading or whatever in my room
>dad slams the door open and angrily stares at me for several seconds
>leaves without saying a word
Repeat every day for years
>>29231400
Kek, what a bastard.
>>29230772
Start looking for online work. Get your own place and distance yourself. Religious people are such huge cucks when it comes to sex. Jesus is literally a wife's son and his entire religion is about hating your basic emotions
>>29230772
And? That's your free card to never give them grandchildren.
>>29231400
Think of him as a subhuman beast. Then his opinion will matter little to you
>>29231453
I wasn't going to anyway for reasons beyond my control, but I have siblings so it's not like it matters.
I hope we have a nuclear holocaust soon or an asteroid destroys this retched planet.
>>29230772
One day you'll realize that your father just wants what's best for you. Sadly that day will probably be the day you go to hell for your lascivious nature.
>>29231535
No, I realize that right now.
I cannot help that I get these urges. I've gone years without really acting on them but semen comes out one way or another, why not enjoy it and save a pair of underwear in the process?
You're an adult baby doing nothing with your life and depending on your parents for sustenance. You have no right to get uppity. Having to deal with your dad's eccentricities is part of the price you pay for your continued NEET leechdom.
>>29231623
I'm doing fine with my 100k/year job, thanks.
>>29231623
>"S-s-someone makes more money than you do, why even try?!"
Someone is also smarter, stronger, more social and fucks more women than you do, better kill yourself since your life will never be at that level, little defeatist NEET.
>>29230772
Just fucking maturbate and when they open the door keep tugging your dick
Just beat up your dad, you pussy.
>>29231669
I did this and my dad stopped barging in my room all the time. As a bonus he doesn't talk to me anymore either.
>>29231664
That makes sense. If Chad can get better life for less effort then why even bother? Only a retard would participate in society that is unfair.
>>29231644
Yet you still have to go on an anonymous imageboard and try to talk down to people.
>>29231669
This. I let my mom walk in on me and now she always knocks.
>>29231764
Then kill yourself.
Why are you even here if you can't compete?
>>29231780
>try to talk down
Nah, I'm just telling him the facts about his situation.
>>29231800
I can but I won't compete if for more work I will be getting worse results.
I won't compete because it's not fair but I won't kill myself. I will leach of your unfair society for as long as I can. And there is nothing you can do about it ;)
>>29231840
You say that, but I know who you are and I know that you have a job. So what are you blathering about?
>>29231887
I do have a job. I don't plan on having it for a long time. Point is with you normies, if I didn't have it you would tell me I should get one to know what I'm talking about.
And if I have one you laugh at me for participating in society. You faggots are retarded.
>>29230772
My mom was a literal 40 year old virgin so yes I think she was a bit prude.
>>29231840
>I won't compete
>it's not fair
Okay pal, enjoy being a loser, I'm sure that feel when no gf is better when you can pretend you're "cucking" people or that you don't care.
>>29231926
I don't care whether you "plan" on having your job for long. You can't claim to leech off of society if you participate in it by working a job.
>>29231349
>anti-trans
>enforce gender roles
Being trans enforces gender roles
>>29231943
It's better not to compete than to compete but fail. And since I am inferior, failure is all that is in for me.
>>29231958
Hahahhaha. Just like I said. You can't win with normie retards.
>>29231997
How does it feel being BTFO? All you can do is say 'you can't win' and call me a retard. That laughter sounds pretty hollow.
>>29232015
It's easy. If I actually lived like a 100% NEET you would tell me to try to get a job. You would tell me how much better it is to have money and participate in society.
Well I tried and it's not. That's all I'm saying.
The only solution I see here is to kill him and jerk off over his corpse.
>>29232033
No, I know that it's not better for YOU to participate in society, because I've seen your posts here and know that you have severe mental issues. You are obsessed with this idea of 'fairness' and hate your life because you weren't born perfect. I agree that for YOU, working a job and participating in society will not make you happy, although it might if you dealt with those mental problems first (but I know you won't). I know that for myself personally, participating in society IS better. I'm happier when I'm doing something productive, and when I have a social life, then when I'm sitting alone in my room at my computer doing nothing for extended periods of time. You shouldn't assume that everyone else on this board is like you.
HOWEVER - I know that all of this is fruitless. Again, because I know how you think. You think that your delusions are some sort of divine truth, and that everyone else is in denial if they are happy participating in society. So it's fruitless to argue.
>>29232129
>because I've seen your posts here and know that you have severe mental issues
I don't think so. Never been diagnosed.
>You are obsessed with this idea of 'fairness' and hate your life because you weren't born perfect.
Exactly. Why shouold I not be obsessed with fairness?
>although it might if you dealt with those mental problems first
I have no mental problems. The things I believe in, I believe in those because it's the truth. Because no one can give me good arguments why I'm not right. If you could just do that and provide a good retort rather than just
>hurr stop thinking about it
>hurr dat is life
And similar bullshit.
>You think that your delusions are some sort of divine truth, and that everyone else is in denial if they are happy participating in society. So it's fruitless to argue.
It's fruitless because you have no good arguments. No one has. Most people simply ignore the truths I'm saying to feel happy.
>>29232213
You don't understand that there ARE no good arguments for you. You are so far gone that you are incapable of reasoning about your fairness fetish. Whatever logic someone throws your way, you just instantly dismiss because your delusion is so rock-solid. It doesn't matter how much people try to reason with you, you are incapable of reasoning. If you actually went to a psychologist and told them about your fairness obsession then you would UNDOUBTEDLY be diagnosed with a mental problem.
>>29232319
>You don't understand that there ARE no good arguments for you.
Then what I'm saying must be correct give that I have been talking here with at least hundreds of people(likely even low thousands considering I've been on /r9k/ for some time) and NONE of them had a good retort.
>Whatever logic someone throws your way, you just instantly dismiss because your delusion is so rock-solid.
Or maybe because the logic that's being thrown at me isn't rock-solid. I dismiss them because they don't make sense. It's as easy as that.
>If you actually went to a psychologist and told them about your fairness obsession then you would UNDOUBTEDLY be diagnosed with a mental problem.
And that is precisely why I'm not going to do that. To ruin my life and let some old hag decide if I should be instutionalized or not. Fuck that.
>>29232380
No one's going to institutionalize you if you don't have plans of hurting yourself or others. They might help you get over your delusion, though. I've had a psychotic episode before. I know what it's like to be in a head-space where I cannot accept real and valid arguments and logic being put forth to me, because I am too deep in my own delusions. It's not a problem with the people arguing with you. It's a problem with you.
>>29231669
Like this opogrinaru
>>29232466
>No one's going to institutionalize you if you don't have plans of hurting yourself or others.
Oh well.
>I know what it's like to be in a head-space where I cannot accept real and valid arguments and logic being put forth to me, because I am too deep in my own delusions.
But I don't have a delusion. I know all too well what "reality" is. I just don't want to accept it because it's not nearly as unchangeable as you might think.
>It's not a problem with the people arguing with you. It's a problem with you.
This is what normies usually do when they run out of arguments. Personal insults.
>>29232505
Absolutely not insulting you. Just explaining to you that you are in a mental state where you are not capable of sound reasoning. It is not an insult; like I said, I've been there myself.
>>29232550
Ok, then could you reply to this:
But I don't have a delusion. I know all too well what "reality" is. I just don't want to accept it because it's not nearly as unchangeable as you might think.
What I am saying by this is that inferior people being treated poorly for things out of their control(the unfairness) could be changed if people choose not to treat inferiors poorly. But they don't choose that.
>>29232550
>sound reasoning.
not him but what makes you think what you believe in is the truth?
>>29232599
Because I have never seen any good retorts against the things I believe in now. Obviously I have had some false beliefs in the past. I got to the point through painstaking process of searching for the truth and challenging my own though processes.
Sounds like your dad is a cuckservative. I.e. a conservative with a traditionalist gynocentric attitude that serves women blindly by enforcing their control of sexuality.
>>29232586
Fine, I'll take your bait. People cannot choose to treat everyone fairly. They attempt to do so with laws and socialization, but there are unconscious factors that make people respond more positively to some people than others, and it is inherent in our nature. Not only that, but it would be impossible to maintain and enforce a society with total economic equality, where everyone had jobs of equal pay and equal benefit and equal risk and equal everything.
>>29232599
I think that he is delusional because I have seen him posting in countless threads, arguing to no end against throngs of people presenting perfectly reasonable arguments, and I have personally seen the flaws in his 'logic'. It's him against the world. He is not some enlightened messiah.
>>29232643
how do you define good?
>>29232657
You cuckposters are the most inane shit to come to this board since the fucking guy in this thread who rants about how life isn't fair.
>>29232685
>there are unconscious factors that make people respond more positively to some people than others, and it is inherent in our nature
And I should be okay with this why? It sounds a little like a cop-out really. Kinda so normies have a reason to treat people baddly for things out of their control.
>Not only that, but it would be impossible to maintain and enforce a society with total economic equality, where everyone had jobs of equal pay and equal benefit and equal risk and equal everything.
Yeah speaking of that have you ever read a short story called "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut? It's related to the topic.
>>29232703
These which make sense and cannot be refuted logically.
>>29232742
I didn't say anything about you being OK with it. The question you asked was why a totally fair world is impossible. I just explained to you why. I have not red this short story, although I do like Vonnegut.
Tell your father that you're an aetheist, a homosexual, and a tranny. One of two things will happen
a)You get kicked out
b)He disowns you, but leaves you the fuck alone
good luck.
>>29232815
It's pretty much about a society where everyone is made equal, but not just under the law. Under everything. Strong people have to wear weights to inhibit their physical abilities. Intelligent people have to wear radio transmitters on their temples which disrupt their thought processes. Attractive people have to wear clown masks. It's pretty interesting. Worth a read.
But back to the point. Saying that absolutely fair society is impossible seems reasonable. I do think though that normies often do bad things under the disguise of what you said. As in they will treat someone like shit and then chant
>hurr its unconscious we cant help it
But even then. How or why for that matter should one be okay with this reality? Why should one accept it without being hateful and bitter? It makes no sense to be anything but angry.
>>29232898
That's where you wrong. Being hateful and bitter towards something that is inescapable and unchangeable is practically by definition irrational. This is why I insist that you need psychological help. I have also been bothered by similar things (not unfairness, but the inevitability of death). It just makes you unhappy for no reason. Seek help. I am done arguing with you.
Sounds like your father is gay for you and jealous.
>>29232992
>Being hateful and bitter towards something that is inescapable and unchangeable is practically by definition irrational.
I'm not sure if I'm convinced about that. Oh well.
I'm not getting psychological help. The risk is too big. Not to mention it stays on my record my whole life and also some other reasons why I can't get help.
>>29232898
>How or why for that matter should one be okay with this reality?
Because it's not going to change and you'd be more content if you accepted this. Do you want to be angry?
>>29233097
I would be humiliated if I accepted this. Accepting this bad treatment is a sure way to drive myself to suicide very soon. Sooner than if I was angry for sure.
Your father did nothing wrong, degenerate worm.
Be thankful you have a caring parent that tries to shield you from corruption in CURRENT YEAR
>>29233232
>Corruption
>Having a wank
Calm down.
Not parent, but here's a situation:
>sister was extremely misandrist
>got into Evolutionary Psychlology
>went on for years about how everything men did (video games, sexuality, anything) was bad, and how women were good
>we didn't talk to each other for a long time
>talking more recently, she's been living with relatives on other side of country
>stupid female cousin leaves NEETdom, decides to go into BDSM
>gets "raped"
>sister finds out, doesn't file a police report or anything
>can't help but feel I'm less respectable to my sister than a rapist
I want to find a way to talk this out with her, but I'm not sure how to bring it up. All the shit I got for being male, and then she just lets a rapist go.
>>29233359
Just bring it up. There doesn't have to be a 'how'. Go up to her and ask her why she thinks it's OK to let that rapist go commit more rapes.
>>29233428
We talked before, the cousin got into BDSM with guys off craigslist. It'd devolve into he-said she-said instantly, and nothing would come out of it. My sister has been helping me as much as she can lately, but I still hate her for her sexism, and now, it feels like her "Chad-ism", even though she's probably too Aspergers to think that way.
