Woman
>passive, weak, inferiority complex
>value determined at birth via fertility, goes stale after 25 like a christmas cake
>not even really respected by other women
>best you can be in life is a competent bun-oven
>guys who pretend to revere women for being good mothers are actually just being polite, a good mother isn't as valuable as a great man
Man
>you start off with nothing, no-one gives a shit about you
>this means everything you get in life is to your credit
>if you fuck up, you can start again; while the average 40 year old is less attractive than a 20 year old, if you have the will to not get fat and ugly you can
>get powerful and successful enough and you can still pull young women well into your 50s
>endowed by nature with ambition, aggressiveness and the drive to get shit done
I know a lot of guys here hate the cards they were dealt, but the reality is that if you can find your fucking balls and actually try, you have a chance for greatness. Something that even a good woman will honestly never have (unless we're talking a 1,000,000 Joan of Arc type).
Being a guy is pretty cool in the fact that you're (usually, or often) naturally more assertive and competitive, outgoing, smarter, more creative, but in all honesty it's also really hard, and it kind of completely sucks.
Being alone and having nobody care about you isn't really all that cool senpai.
>>29163081
I came to the recent revelation that the lame people around me are actually holding me back from being a greater man. Women who don't fuck you and shitty weak friends being all over you is actually worse than being on your own.
>>29163042
Men have are "better" because they have greater potential to do great things but also to fuck up big time.
Men and women are obviously different biologically, but i think the difference between lives women lead and men lead is in society.
Women just have it too easy. I think you have to face some shit to sort of open your eyes and look in new directions.
>>29163042
Being a man is like climbing without a safety line. You can get higher, but the fall is devastating.
>>29163042
You just reminded me of everything I hate about being a woman
>OP thinks men start out with nothing
>implying men haven't literally benefitted from first born son inheritance for hundreds of years
Also, this just sounds like whiny posturing from a guy who doesn't have anything going for him but penis pride, and who is pissed that women are valued for existing.
>>29164815
That's like saying all men have it easy because David Rockefeller is a man.
>>29164987
OP made a blanket statement. It's preposterous to think that men have always had to fight tooth and nail for everything they have when men have traditionally been the inheritors of any assets throughout the ages. Not even talking about the David Rockefellers of the world. Even middle class, sometimes even peasants, basically anyone with anything in the world has given it to their son.
>>29165264
You made a blanket statement too, tripfag. Are you aware of the current year? That's what OP was talking about.
I'm almost certain that you know that being a man in modern western society is not as easy as feminists say it is.
>>29165264
sorry, remind me what year it is?
>>29165429
fujoshi bot is a roastie that worked for the porn industry, don't bother arguing with her.
>>29164815
>first born son
>all men
Doesn't work out so well for sons who weren't first born.
If you're talking about male descent of property, this isn't a 'privilege' in any meaningful sense, that's just feminist revisionism.
Male descent of property is just another aspect of male disposability and objectification. Women in the cultures that had this were able to rely on men and didn't have to maintain ownership and functionality of property, these women could just find a mate who would provide those things. It's basically the universal law of life on earth that men are forced to take responsibility because women refuse to from a position of privilege. Women are also typically terrible managers of property. The cultures that had male descent of property were also typically dirt-poor societies where the men would typically be worked to death, subject to violence and exploitation at astronomically higher rates than women, etc.
>>29163042
honestly, no one has accurately mapped our genetic code to the extent to say for certain that men are more ambitious than women, genetically. You assume too much.
That said, as far as our culture goes, I agree that we men have it better. Why? Because we have it worse. Huh?
Like you said, the world doesn't give a fuck about us and nothing is handed to us (unless rich). We're expected to toughen up and just deal with life's shit, and make something of ourselves. It's such a superior thing to be taught, as opposed to what we teach women - to just sit around and wait for prince charming to come along.
>>29165429
>mfw anon doesn't understand generational wealth
>>29165540
I'm also talking about investments in education and business ventures as well. Not just property.
And you're also implying that women were treated well. Women had to deal with beatings, STDs, infidelity, lack of education, lack of independence, etc. Hell, just look at what men do when there's no one to stop them: the mass rapes of Nanjing and the WWII mass rapes of European women by Russians and other allied soldiers. Men are most often the victims of violence but that's because they are usually the most destructive. I'm not saying that there aren't or weren't women that had it easy, but to pretend that men are the sole victims of systemic violence is absurd.
>>29165685
>I'm also talking about investments in education and business ventures as well. Not just property.
My comment extends to those things. Women get education today that in most cases is entirely subsidised by males (through government subsidies, and 'equity in banking' laws, etc) and we know that they're more likely to drop out of careers after attaining qualifications. The reality is that women are generally irresponsible and in situations of actual limited wealth (ie before fossil fuels, central banking, etc) money needed to be invested functionally. Women were still the primarily people to benefit because women are born with privilege and inherent higher social status than men.
>Women had to deal with beatings, STDs, infidelity, lack of education, lack of independence, etc
All made up feminist lies.
>the mass rapes of Nanjing and the WWII mass rapes of European women by Russians
The Rape of Berlin is a complete feminist revisionism, the Nanjing rapes were allegedly committed alongside other severe violence. You cannot take the violence of armies of men and claim that women have no ties or responsibilities for the actions of these armies. In WW2 it was German society, both female and male (in fact some evidence shows more women) who supported Hitler and Nazism. Armies were made up entirely of men because of male disposability... at the end of the war they were conscripting young boys, just as in England adult women including prominent feminists were handing white feathers to young men and boys. Adult women. Women commit more violence than men, more abortions have been committed in the past 30 years than people who've died in all the wars of the past 100 years. Women fed the witch trials with allegations, they started the satanic ritual abuse scares, etc. Women are just as capable of violence as men, but women are privileged so they're less likely to be forced, coerced, or provoked to exercise it.
I'm off to bed.
>>29165510
Oh, yeah. I remember when I first came to /r9k/, there was a lot of sluts that claimed they were in porn, and kept insisting they deserved the title of being robots. That was weird. Perhaps the tripfag can explain to me her experience in the "porn industry".
>>29165685
But you're not being clear with how it applies to us. Are you insinuating that guys like me and OP have literally inherited generational male wealth simply because we are men? Please don't tell me you actually think that.
>>29165824
OP was talking about men in general. So was I.
And I've gone over this many many times, newfag. I was a corporate executive for a top name in the adult industry. I posted a time stamped industry AVN awards badge here before. I was on the corporate/business dev side of the company and the only person above me was the CEO. I resigned from my position 8 months ago after working there for four years, since I was tired of dealing with how negative and sexist it was making me. When you are able to see all the stats of what men get off to, and how men genuinely enjoy getting off to real women being hurt, or how men don't care about real women being abused via drugs or violence, it makes you distrustful of men. I was never "talent" and never even considered it, nor was I ever pressured into trying it. My company was very professional. I've never posted nude photos or camwhored here or anywhere else.
So I left. Now I'm freelancing.
>>29165993
FB you're on of my favourite posters on this board and I agree with everything you say about the porn industry and male sexuality. It's disturbing as fuck and leaves such a bad taste in my mouth.
i'm just glad i don't have a vagina. the thing bleeds, you have to stick stuff in there to collect the blood once a month, you have to get regular checkups to make sure it's not fucked up, it may or may not smell bad depending on a million different things, discharge, mood swings and cramping and a bunch of shit when blood time comes on....
it kind of makes sense why so many women are crazy, just dealing with a vagina will make you fucking crazy
>>29165993
We've talked before, tripfag. Long time ago. Basically, it was in a large thread that I had started. The argument went back and forth, and ended when you asked me if it bothered me that most men would do anything to have sex with a woman. I said no, because it's the truth, most men would.
I dislike porn because of the degeneracy. I must do whatever I can to stay away from it. But why do you come here anyways? And do you have any other info to share about your experience in the industry?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get some male inheritance coming my way, but I'm not getting it until they are dead. Doesn't matter though, my parents are good people.
>>29166075
Why do I come here? It's about 50% to pass the time, and 50% sadism and misanthropy. I also enjoy reading viewpoints that are radically different than mine, or even just arguments back and forth.
Do I have any more to say about my experiences with the adult industry? I mean, I'll answer questions but I'm not going to write a memoir or anything.
>>29163042
we can be manwhores and have men admire us, and women crave us for it(instead of shaming us)
we don't age like some of you cunts do.
we can have kids whenever we want, no expiration date.
dating someone younger than you is not as frowned upon.
we tend not to give a fuck better.
although social creatures, we handle isolation better, and can focus on our goals better.
grill easy mode has nothing on chad easy mode.
many many more.
>>29166135
How would you describe the female performers?
How would you describe the male performers?
Is the whole scene really as depressing and full of drugs as people say it is?
What exactly did the stats about male viewers say?
You also alluded to the idea of tragedy within the whole scene, that got me curious.
>>29166235
>How would you describe the female performers?
Unstable. Low IQ. Mostly sweet women, but just hot messes that came from bad background or horrible situations (like drug addiction, poverty, abusive relationships, or single motherhood). Mostly they were just sad.
>How would you describe the male performers?
Unstable. Misogynistic. Meatheads. General jackasses who saw all women, performer or not, as meat bags to fuck. James Deen was an ass to me until he realized that my opinion of him affected his $$$. Then he shaped up real quick.
>Is the whole scene really as depressing and full of drugs as people say it is?
Yes. Most porn stars use drugs. You kind of have to, because a lot of the shit you have to do is painful, not to mention doing it for hours and hours with very hung men. Aside from the physical pain, many actresses are in shitty relationships with their managers, who act as the girls' pimps almost. At the big agencies it's not as bad (ATMLA. Spiegler, etc) but there are absolutely drugs on set. It's just depressing seeing these girls abused.
>What exactly did the stats about male viewers say?
Uh. Where do I even begin. When you see how many dudes are searching for "teen brutal rape" and "daughter forced" and even things like entire studios that are dedicated to taking girls from third world countries and filming them, it's disheartening.
It's also disheartening that every man under the age of like 35 has grown up with hardcore porn during their sexually formulative years, and now so many men are addicted.
I mean, I know I love my fucked up porn, but I instantly dry up if it's a real person being hurt. Kinks are kinks and I support people having theirs, but hurting real people is where I draw the line.
>>29166508
I appreciate the response. I am trying my best currently, again, to do a NoFap streak. I hate the community but I can try as an individual to do it. I'm in the warmup phase, streak hasn't started yet. But I do not like the idea of having contributed to such degeneracy by being a viewer of such things.
Two more questions and then that's it. What the fuck do you mean, that studios use women from third world countries? And how strong is your misanthropy?
>>29165685
>you're also implying that women were treated well.
Relative to men on average? Absolutely.
Statistically, life hasn't been easy for much of anyone in human history.
But because women have eggs and give birth, this makes them the limiting factor in reproduction. This in turn makes them fundamentally worth more than men when the population is low and survival is unpredictable.
Therefore, for sake of women and the survival of the species as a whole, men have been running interference and bearing the brunt of punishment for eons. Why have we developed the larger and stronger physiques on average? Because we've had it so easy, to the detriment of women? Of course not. It's because most of the evolutionary pressure to adapt has been laid on men.
>Women had to deal with beatings
And men who beat women were, and still are, "dealt with" by...who? Other men. If not cops, it's been common for men in the family and community to step and flex some muscle. Beating women has never been socially acceptable. Maybe more so in the black community, but I wouldn't know.
>STDs, infidelity, lack of education, lack of independence
These were, and are, along with violence, faced by men just as much (sometimes even more) as women. But no one cares, because they're men.
That's the fundamental difference here: human history is suffering...but we only see the suffering of women and not that of men. And then blame men for all of it alike, while claiming they were somehow privileged, when the truth is that only a few men have ever been educated, owned land, had the right to vote at the cost of conscription (but still the option to pay the family of a low status man to serve in his stead), etc ad nauseum.
This idea that men /in general/ were powerful and women /in general/ were powerless, whereas the truth is that the vast majority of both were outright fucked (men somewhat more so), is one of the most cancerous and pernicious of all of feminism's lies.
>>29166508
>waaah people can consent to things that i don't like waaah
and 99% chance you think this is a bigger problem than divorce rape/false accusations/whatever
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>>29165264
Male inheritance was practiced because the burden of providing was laid on...wait for it...men.
Why? Because in a pre-industrial, pre-internet, pre-easy as fuck convenient society, there wasn't much work outside the home that women could do. It was too dangerous and too hard on the body. Even now women don't want to do that kind of hard, dangerous, dirty work.
The only reason women flooded the workplace is that we advanced technologically to the point that there were finally some easier jobs they could do, not because men tied them to the fucking radiator at home.
But then again I'm talking to a jizz jar whose used to work in porn, which means you basically coast on your cunt and try to pretend you have any value beyond that, so I'm not surprised when you do something as fucking retarded as looking at the past through the contextual lens of the present.
Dumb cunt.
>>29166508
>I mean, I know I love my fucked up porn, but I instantly dry up if it's a real person being hurt. Kinks are kinks and I support people having theirs, but hurting real people is where I draw the line.
What the fuck constitutes a """real person"""?
Such misogyny.
Sorry, but stop absolving women of agency and accountability and offloading onto men. These women could have a shitty job for a while and just live in a studio apartment and eat rice and beans like most young men, but they chose porn. Chose.
Now fuck off.
>>29167003
>what constitutes a real person
A flesh and blood person as opposed to one of them Chinese cartoons. It isn't that complicated, anon.
Christ, /pol/ calls themselves redpilled but they sure are green as fuck when it comes to women.
>>>/pol/76626454
