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>making your children pay rent Is there anything more Jewish
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>making your children pay rent

Is there anything more Jewish than this?
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>>29112631
>expecting to live rent free with your parents indefinitely
Is there anything more Jewish than this?
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>mfw lived with parents free of any charge for 35 years now
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Sucks. My parents wouldn't expect me to pay rent. Especially because their mortage is more than I make in a year.
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>>29112631
If they're earning money then it only makes sense for them to contribute toward the upkeep. Full on rent is overboard though, it's a passive aggressive way of telling them to fuck off.
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>>29112691
That's pretty much the opposite of strteotypical Jewness
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>>29112742
29 for me

the only caveat is that i buy random stuff (like dish detergent or asswipe) once and a while. not completely free, but at least my 'rents don't try to Jew me for $500/month or whatever. not bad, considering i get the full meal deal (they provide three meals a day to me, drive me anywhere, whatever)

... fuck it feels sad "bragging" about this, but whatever.
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Only deadbeat parents make their kids pay, if they weren't prepared to take the responsibility they shouldn't have had the kid in the first place.
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I live at home rent-free, but am not a complete degenerate. I pay for a few utilities (cable, water, etc.) and buy random shit for the household to use (toiletries, food, shit like that).

Of course, I'm an only child and my parents don't splurge, so I'm going to get most of the money I spend back some day, but still.
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>>29112881
I thought wanting free shit all of the time was a huge part of the Jewish stereotype.
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>>29112742
>>29112895
Damn. My mom wanted to charge me 600 a month to live at home when I was 18.
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>>29112881
> want expensive stuff for free
> opposite of strteotypical Jewness

>>29112631
Lying to people that they are your children(so they won't inherit all the money you hoarded) AND making them pay rent.
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>>29112631
>not wanting your children to move the fuck out asap
making them pay rent is good way to encourage that, not to mention giving them some useful life experiece
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>>29112881
faggot
>>29112631
>>29112691
those are the two most jewish things
>tfw live rent free with parents
>tfw have job at bike shop

>>29112943
lol what a cunt kike
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>>29112631
>>29112691
>Implying jews don't tech their kids as soon as they can to despoil dem inferior races...
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>Parents couldn't stand me anymore
>But felt too guilty to abandon me
>They moved out and left me the apartment, pay the rent for me while I live alone

I AM THE OMNI-NEET
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>>29112742
>living with your parents at 35
Just end it anon
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>>29112943
she rightfully should have

Unless my kid is going to college, he needs to fuck off out of my house and pay for his own shit when he's 18-19. He needs to learn to be a big boy and not a fucking manchild.

If he's going to college for something worthwhile like medicine or engineering, I'll pay for it, but after that he can fuck off and pay his own way too.
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>>29113015
Not that guy, but I'm in my mid-20s and live with my parents.

I used to live away during college, but I still had no girlfriend or many friends. Why should I pay money to pay for someone's else's Ferrari when I have no one I need to impress? At least at home I have some company and can keep most of the money I earn.
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>>29112949
Well, you're the one who sees it in terms of wanting stuff and reducing family bonds down to a matter of utilitarian materialism

Providing for and being provided for by your family is what family is all about. Not this running tally of who exhausts more resources than the other. I know it's necessary to think this way, but its pretty Jewish.
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>>29112895

Cheers m8! Yea, I guess in the eyes of many, one might be considered a pathetic lowlife. I get the whole service package too, mom was in here cleaning yesterday by the looks of it. I've been working since 19 so this has actually allowed me to save up quite a pile. I own an estate with couple of houses but I've always kept tenants in them. There's another guy same age as me just a few miles away who've also been living with parents his whole life, known him since we were 4, he's had some bad luck with his health however, I just gave him 9k for a trip to Australia. Best of luck ahead anon, it's a comfy life and if one don't interact with others so much one quickly forgets the social stigma.

>>29112943
Sucks man, I know a lot of my peers parents did this as well back when we were around that age, they were pretty quick to move out after that.

>>29113015
kek, thinking about it daily but can't seem to get around to it, you wanna help out anon-san?
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>parents want me to pay rent
>I can take a hint
>move out
>cut off all contact
>get tearful messages from mom on my phone now and again begging for forgiveness
oh I'm sorry, you kicked me out of the house by trying to financially exploit me, but you still wanted me to put up with your bullshit? Fuck you.
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>>29112631
I actually think it's pretty fair, especially considering they raised you. In fact, I'd feel bad if I WASN't paying some amount of money. I'm not rich nor am I deluded enough to think that I shouldn't contribute to the household.
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>>29112999

lmfao dude whaaaat
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>my parents want me to get a slave job
>tfw to anxious to call the job guys
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>>29112631
Paying rent makes no sense because you already fucking live in the house meaning your money already supports it somewhat, the parents who do this are fucking psychopaths.
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>>29112691
>Is there anything more Jewish than this?
earning a living without actually producing anything
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>>29113312
your parents sound like cunts. they should have let you stay there rent free and thereby encouraged you to be a fat ugly neet robot
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>>29113312
Classic example of how "adults" still are immature as fuck.

>>29112999
kek
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>mfw these threads remind me that at least my parents love me
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>>29112631
I have no idea why some parents do that shit. Mine don't and if I have kids I won't. I'm 27 and I'm getting ready to buy my own house in cash. Families should help each other imo. I feel like parents who make their kids pay rent don't love their kids.
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>>29113432
my life is exactly the same as it was living at home.

the only difference is now instead of putting $1,300 a month into investments for retirement I use it for rent and food, so my earning potential has been dramatically crippled. Living at home I was on track to retire at 35, now it's more like 65 if I'm lucky.
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>tfw my parents bring this up
>tfw I have lent them $20k
>mfw I realize I've cucked myself
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>>29113592

If they nag you about that shit, call back that loan with immediate effect.
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>>be me
>>work 14/7 in my parent's businness
>>doing all the housework in my "free time"
>>failing in school due to shit time
>>when i graduate i am forced to work in same shit
>>10 minutes 'free time' to use the pc
>>shit time limit of sleeping at 12 rule
>>while i finish working at 11
>>night is everything i have
>>can only use this 2004 shit laptop in my bedroom
>>they think i have secretly millions in my savings
>>actually 142 dollars as lifetime savings
>>no pay

Yup, totally normal in here guys. My parents, mainly my mom is a dick who wants me to be a working slave forever. My 22 yr old brother is already enslaved. All I have is 3 meals a day and a roof, shitty wifi that doesn't reach and this eee pc seashell series laptop. Enough? You tell me. TL;DR My parents are more Jewish than your nearby car seller.
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>>29113673
>14 hours a day
>7 days a week
>living with parents
>142 dollars in savings

jesus christ nigga how fucking retarded can one man be?
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>>29112631
>not preparing your children for the real world
is there anything more white than this?
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>>29113740
>asian parents
>be asian
>parents wanting me to know how hard life is
>wtf?
>tfw never knew life was 14/7 that hard
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>tfw my parents let me pay the hospital bill even though I have no job
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>making your children pay rent then kicking them out for not talking to you and immediately putting the room on Craig's list
FUCK YOU DUMB WHORE JUST TREAT ME LIKE I WAS SOME STRANGER RENTING THE ROOM INSTEAD OF TRYING AND FAILINBG TO TALK TO ME
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>>29113742
>caring about the "real world"

If you get your children on track to buy a house and have a good job it doesn't matter. Taking money from them will just make it take longer r them to get in a good place financially. I swear, the only people I ever hear talk about the "real world" got dealt a shitty hand in life.
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Just fucking move out already. You can run your NEET scams on the government if your IQ is as high as you think it is. No need to be around your abusive/neglectful parents, achieve independence.
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>>29112631
My parents literally do this to my older brother
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>>29113812
right because not taking rent from them automatically means they will save up for a house. lmfao you actually believe this, when in reality if you don't teach them how the real works and don't take your CHILDREN'S money they will do what all children do and blow it on the virtual goods
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>>29113742
>Muh scars from the street XD

You do realize that being able to save, invest and pay for an education by living at home does more good in "the real world" than working a McDonalds to pay for a room in some nigger neighborhood, right?
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>>29113871
and you do realize that majority of grown independent adults fail at planning ahead and doing something that is beneficial such as have a savings account? And you expect children do magically be able to wise up and make this decision? top kek
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>>29113867
believe it or not, not everyone who lives at home collects resin anime dolls and Team Fortress hats

you know what happens when you kick your kid who can't save money out of the house? You get a kid who asks to borrow gas and grocery money once a week.
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>>29112742
Fuck you asshole

>tfw 19 and mom is already screaming at me and my sisters to either give her money or get the fuck out on a daily basis

Bitch, if I 'ruined your life' maybe you shouldn't have given birth to me.
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>>29112631
I had a nervous breakdown and lost my mind for a while. I found an orginization in my area that gives free mental health aid (therapy and drugs) to those who can't afford it. The trick is you have to apply for SSI.
I apply and now get $400 a month.
My dad wants $300 a month for rent.
He's pressuring me to go talk to SSI and see if I can get more so I can pay $400 or $500.
Then he says he'll take just $100 a month. I did that for a while but stopped.

I'm still mentally fucked. I told him I need the $400 to live somewhat like a normal person. To buy gas for my car, food occasionally, fix the car when I need to. Like now I need new tires on the car but simply can't afford them because it'd be over $400.

He's not hounding as much for rent but I know he's keeping a tally of how much I owe him. The truth is I'll never pay him back. I tell him and mom to downsize out of this house and get a small apartment some where just for them. They don't have 5 kids at home anymore. I tell them I'll be fine. The truth is I'll end up homeless and will then kill myself. I just hope my car works at that point so I can use it's exhaust to do the job.
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>>29113975
She's not made of gold anon, she's looked after you for 19 years now. How long will she have to keep this up for?
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>>29113999
>my parents are keeping track of every receipt i owe her
>tfw they send me to a expensive school
> 1k per month
>tfw elementary to high school
>gets forced to work in family business 14/7 to "pay" her back
>failing school and they expect me to have good grades
>no pay

Yeah, I am totally not paying them back since they decided by themselves to send me to goddamm expensive school, send me to work even though I have to study and then yeah, fail.
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the most Jewish thing I've ever witnessed was these 3 guys in a pickup truck dumpster diving behind Costco and filling it with the pastries. On my way home I pass by the synagogue and seen the same truck in the parking lot. There was a huge sign that said "BAKE SALE SATURDAY "
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>>29113867
They don't blow it if you teach them right. I know I didn't. Or if you didn't teach them right you can save the rent money that they give you and get them a house with it later, or at least a down payment. If you take your kids money you are cancer.
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You all are pathetic. You fags who live with your parents part the age of 23 ought to be gassed. Don't complain about tfw no gf either when you grown ass men can't even take care of yourselves
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>>29114111
Sounds like someone's family didn't love them.
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> when a guy still lives with his parents after age 4

Lol you can't really call yourself a man
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>>29114111
Leave normie
>>>/out/
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>>29113274

>Providing for and being provided for by your family is what family is all about.

Except you freeloading faggots never provide for your families. That's why you should be paying rent.
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>>29114132
I hate my mom, but that has nothing to do with how I feel. Aren't you tired of being a parasitic loser anon?
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>>29114180
Not even a normie. I have a hard time making friends and I have to literally look at dating as a strategy game to get laid. I just refuse to parasite off my parents. But then again I'm an American and not euroshit.
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>>29114111
I never asked to be born and I sure as hell didn't ask to be born in the shitty situation I ended up in.

The way I see it they're responsible, it was their fault for being degenerate breeders.
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>>29114093
>stories that never happened.
inb4 "no, for real guys this totally happened" even thought I just inb4'd it.
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>>29114239
>not a normie
>has friends
>gets laid
You're a bit stupid aren't you
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>>29114205
They'll be parasitic when they're old, since they don't save for retirement, so we'll be about even in the end.

>being a slave to what other people think and trying your best to avoid being a "loser", whatever that is

>shiggydiggy
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>no savings
>minimum wage job
>no skills
>no friends
>extended family all dead

If I ever get kicked out I will be unironically homeless
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>>29112940
No that's being a nigger
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I've been trying to move out for years now (I'm 27 now so I'm starting to really feel the need to gtfo). I always hit some sort of roadblock. I will probably end up killing myself if I'm above the age of 30 and still living at home.

I don't think I'd mind if mom had a job. Or was actively looking for a job or a way to bring in some income. Or if she even made food frequently. The entire financial burden of our apartment weighs entirely on my brother and I.

This in turn makes it difficult to have any money saved or pay off whatever debts I've acquired.

I hope that second job pans out so I can at least get a studio apartment and be on my own.
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>>29114323
I am a robot who pretends to be a normie. Big difference

>>29114354
>Taking care of your parents in old age
Is this more eurocuck shit? If my parents don't save enough money for retirement, fuck em. I hope their last investment is in some rope or ammunition because the alterative is starving on the streets.
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>>29114381
If I get kicked out I will an hero since I rather die than beg for money
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>>29114446
>Is this more eurocuck shit?

Nah, it's some loving family shit. I live in America. When you love your family, you help them out the best you can.
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>>29114480
Same

Either suicide or try to get into the military

Why couldn't I just be a normie with a plethora of friends who I could stay with?
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>>29114507
Enjoy your financial dead weight.
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>>29112631
Hitler's ashtray
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>>29114549
Enjoy your crippling loneliness.

Also, I'll be better off financially even while taking care of my parents because of the headstart they gave me.
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>>29112999
Kek, good job mate.
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>>29114587

Orange Clementine
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>>29112631
If you dont make your kids start pulling their own weight at 18 (just kick in a few hundo for utilities or something) you will end up with a 40 year old NEET basement dweller.

Source am 24 year old neet whose momma babied him
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>>29112742
>>29112895
>tfw 24
my grandparents are old and crippled and I help out with shit near them I guess so I am not a complete neet. since I drive them around
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>>29112631
My parents never even gave me allowance and I had to pay rent the day I turned 18. Mormons are the christian equivalent of jews.
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>pop a child into extistence
>kick him out when he turns 18
>"we did what we have to, now you're on your own!"
why did you "have to" give birth to someone? if you're so anxious to get rid of your son to have an "empty nest", why have children in the first place? did someone put a gun to your head?
is there a creature more delusional than a parent?
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>>29112999
checked.

I guess my dad is living the dream.
>be a faggot 50 year old manchild living in the basement of one of his moms apartment
>have massive fights with my grandma
>eventually she just buys him a Condo a few blocks away since she does not want him to be homeless
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>>29113575
boo hoo hoo you should have just paid a little rent since you had a sweet deal
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>>29114381
Have an oh shit fund so you can buy an amtrack ticket to some flyover state where living is cheap as fug
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>>29113510
Same, just recently moved out of my mums place, she never made me pay rent, and now she takes me out for supper or breakfast once or twice a week, and gives me gift cards for Natural Grocers for healthy food. My mum's a darling angel.
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>>29114745
I thought they gave you 2 years to NEET it up on mission.

Mormons are omega jews compared to catholics and the vatican
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>>29114717

It's not like this, don't be delusional. Kids these days either:

-Fuck off to college, then come back home when they graduate
-Live at home and work on their careers/school/what the fuck ever, helping the family out, or not
-fuck off to the army
-work dead end jobs and move out into rats nest and do nothing with themselves

In 2016 moving away from your family means nothing, unless you have lucrative job/business/education. It doesn't make you a "real man."
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>>29114849
I am not saying everyone should fuck off once they turn 18 but expecting your grown ass healthy son to pay the $200 a month water bill is a very cheap price for rent and helps him be responsible
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>>29114821
I'm a literal manbaby. I have no idea how I would even attempt to start a new life in another part of the country.

It doesn't help that rent here is like $1,000 a month for one room
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>>29112631
My mom made me give her my pell grant money. Regret it because I ended up taking classes I didn't need just to have a place to stay. To be fair this is something that poor people and religious people do.
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why does it seem like it's always sons getting kicked out at 18 in the US? have heard of a daughter being kicked out?
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>>29114873
YOU LOOK LIKE AN AUTISTIC DOLLY PARTON
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>>29114893
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_rent/
you can get a decent apartment for $700 a month in tulsa
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>>29114906
>chestlet
>dolly parton
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>>29114900
Daughters can usually find some older Chad to hook up with while sons are out on their asses.

Fucking normies
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>>29114873

>I'm literally so poor and retarded I'm going nickel and dime MY OWN CHILD instead of helping him build and manage his savings
>I also will claim that I'm "teaching him uh lesson"

Poor people stay poor for a reason I guess.
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>>29112631
Making your children pay rent is their way of saying GROW THE FUCK UP AND GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
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>>29114968
>making son pay $200 in bills as "rent"
>nickle and diming
pick one neetfag
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>>29112631

Pretty much a dick move in my opinion. If your kids still live with you, they obviously don't have enough money to buy their own house yet, and making them pay rent is just draining them of money they can't really afford to spend. Unless he or she is home all day being fat and not doing anything useful like school or occasional housework there is no reason to make them pay you anything.

Good thing my family is Mexican, so I can pretty much live with my mom indefinitely with no remorse. Kicking your kids out at 18 is just an American meme.
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>>29114988
>NEET
>having money to pay rent
Choose one
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>>29114745
I was raised in that cult too, senpai.

It took me years to get emotionally untangled from it's insidious doctrine.
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>>29114968
I wonder if there are any studies on this. I wonder if blacks and hispanics do this more often
>>29114941
It's because girls are supposed to be coddled and dealt with softly. If you piss them off they fuck niggers. Also men are supposed to be independent
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>>29115100
or if you piss them off, they make you eat their raw, bloody miscarriage
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>>29114985
But growing up and getting out of the house was what they should have been teaching you how to do so that when it came time you would do it on your own and want to.

If that is not the case then they didn't prepare their child. Humans aren't like animals that just know how to live without training. So if they come of age to leave the nest and don't know how then it's the parents fault or the child is mentally damaged. Which is most likely also their fault.
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>>29114111
So how much did your house cost?
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>>29114900
Girls have 19 yr old bfs from the age of 13.
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>>29115100
>there's a way things are "supposed to be"

Ha, ok.
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>>29115144
Roasties have it easier. The never get physical punishment, parents are kind to them, and we WANT them to mooch off their SO
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>tfw Jewish and my parents gave me $500k for by 21 birthday

All I did was buying two aparments and a shitty Honda, the one that I live and the one I rent.
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>>29115217
Fucking this. Whenever people find out that I want to stay at home and do housework while my wife works people look at me weird.
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>>29115181
it's just a fact
Look at your sister or female cousins. I guarantee they never got spanked when they did anything wrong. Look at how your dad/uncles treat them. They'll take any shit as long as the girls don't fuck niggers and don't dress like whores. My uncles act this way with the daughters as well
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>>29115266
That doesn't mean it's how it's "supposed to be". It's just how it is right now.
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>>29115256
I honestly think this would be best for me too.
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>MFW don't know how to buy a house or what mortage and foreclosure means

Why couldn't they have taught me this in high school and kept failing me until I understood the outside world!??!?!!?

The real world is too scary!
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>>29115367
Where the fuck are we supposed to learn that shit from then? Our parents? Mine were too drunk and busy fighting to teach me anything of use.

I wouldn't take any financial advice from those poor white-trash degenerates seriously anyways
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Do all americans really get kicked out of their homes on their 18th birthday?
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>Is there anything more Jewish than this?

Yes.

Creating a (spiritual) welfare state for your child to live in.
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>>29115438
It was standard practice for boomers but it isn't as common today because lmaonoeconomy. It's still happens pretty often though, it depends how shitty/poor your parents are
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>>29115449
please explain.

I think the mormons do this. You can never make right with your god no matter how good you are but you can never leave because then you break up your family for eternity.
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>>29115510

When I was saying 'spiritual' I wasn't using it in a religious sense.

I was just referring to parents who continue to let their kids live with them and feed them, without making them pay rent, and applying little-to-no-pressure to get a job. At best they'll give them little chores to do around the house.

Technically, this isn't welfare, but "spiritually", it isn't much different, at least for the individual (in large-scale social programs though, I can appreciate that there's a difference).
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>>29115438
100 years ago you could get kicked out at 15, easily.
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>>29115510
Nyet

That is not what Mormonism teaches
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>>29114310
>Jews don't do insanely cheap shit on a regular basis
good little goyim
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>>29113312
you have my admiration

how did you do it?

i'm in a grudge war rn waiting for my parents to cave in and kick me out, i'd go for independence but it just isn't economically feasible
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>>29115952
Speaking as an ex-Mormon, the teachings don't SAY that, but that's basically how the culture operates.
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>>29114303
my parents can't be blamed in this manner because they had good financial intentions of giving birth to only 2 kids, one by one 2 years apart

>yfw "god" gave them quadruplets
JUST
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Multi-generational households used to be the norm. There's literally nothing wrong with living at home. I pay for my own stuff. Might be a KHV but I'm not fat and living in the basement.

The whole "independence" thing is a complete capitalist scam and was only really a mid-20th century Western phenomenon.
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>>29114778
Holy shit are you me?
>Dad in his 40's still living at home
I'm all for people who stay at home to save up but there is a line.
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The issue of rent is a big point of contention.
My parents bought a new house recently.

The old one is delapitated, crumbling, bits of rebar falling through periodically.
I opted to stay in the old house to prevent it from being occupied by squatters.

However they keep asking me to pay rent for what was essentially where I grew up. I pay half the time, but I try to avoid it and make them beg for it. It's ridiculous that my father, who earns an order of magnitude more than I do, tries to squeeze what little money I earn to just leave it rot in the bank while I struggle to pay for a car and education.

I envy people I hear about whose parents bought them a car, house etc.

Why are boomers such economic vampires? How little do they value their kids?

Should I take this as a sign that they don't love me? I always suspected this. Or do they seriously think it is just to extract wealth from your offspring instead of augmenting it?

If by some freak turn of events I had a family, I would feel nauseous just thinking of taking from my own kids.

My mom hates me doesn't she?
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>>29114739
Why not ask them to move in with you? I wouldn't be able to stand seeing my grandparents or parents in some awful retirement home. Don't want them to be as lonely as me.
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>>29116082
It's double hard for me to wrap my head around parents making their children pay rent when no one would ever pay rent to live in that shit hole.

Or parents that charge rent for a room in there house. Would they seek a renter and would a renter even pay that if they sought it? If no then how can they think it's okay to charge their offspring?
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>>29116082

Hopefully you'll eventually inherit the whole sum of it, and by then mayhap your parents have managed to accumulate more interest than you keeping the money would, altho if you have siblings you'll probably end up getting cucked.
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>>29116187
interest rates are shite, and I have two younger brothers. also the government takes a cut.
and my parents can live a very long time. By the time both are dead, I would a) not need anyones' financial assistance anymore or b) hung myself.
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>parents don't even own their house, my grandparents do
>lived in it rent free for 10 years
>wanted to charge 300 a month to live in an attic room where I couldn't fully stand up
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>>29116248

kek, you make a sound reasoning there anon.

>>29116291

Amazing how many here have shit parents.
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Actually, Jews would never do that. They are for the most part clannish people who help their kids out, give them money, set them up with jobs, bribe college admission directors to let them into Ivies and generally give them a great start.

Unfortunately, this is the epitome of WHITE behavior.
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>>29116472
>Amazing how many here have shit parents.
thats probably one of the main reason we all are here
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>>29112999
>OMNI-NEET
>999

Trips confirms it.
I am proud, son.
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>>29116577
>>29116472
>One utterly shit parent that married a rich man and lectures me from afar even though I live on my own and then wonders why I don't talk to her
>One amazing god send of a parent that played WoW with me for years but died way ahead of his time because shitty hospitals didn't catch his illness the time they had the chance
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I see all these posts about living with your parents rent free vs. paying to live with them vs. living on your own.

But I didn't see the point brought up about rich fags.

Who, /movedout&parentspayforrent/ here?

I'm not, but it must be nice to move away to college and have daddy's money pay for everything.
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>>29116631

Being a trust fund kid in the West is the most blessed existence on this Earth, probably in all ages of human history.
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>>29116727
Idk anon, I have a trust fund from my grandpa, but I think I might trade that in to not have such an ugly face to get some pussy every once in awhile.

Grass is always greener I guess.
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>>29116082

The common sociopathy of the boomers is narcissism. This means they have difficulty empathizing with others and mostly think about themselves. It's not even that they're selfish necessarily, they just have difficulty conceiving of others as real people rather than animated accessories of their own lives.

There's probably a couple factors involved in them liking the idea of charging their own children rent. The first is not fully understanding the child's actual needs. The second is that boomer-oriented media will often recommend this tactic as a way to "motivate" children out of the house, because the default assumption is that you're too lazy to make it, not that you can't, so rent is a way of making sure the house isn't too comfortable for the wayward son or daughter. However, it's also a convenient excuse for motivation three, which is that they want the house to themselves so they can spend more time on themselves, and the "boomerang" kid is a hindrance to that.

The last factor, though, is the one that frames the rest; boomers grew up before NAFTA. The childhood and young adulthood of boomers was spent in better economic times where things like getting a job and making rent was much easier. They're secure now, so lots of them have been completely sheltered from the real world where wages are not growing in any real way and everything is becoming more expensive. That lets them believe that their children are lazy, rather than that the world is wrong and mostly as a result of their choices. At the root of it, they're just mistaken about the world you're facing, and they're too busy still trusting the television to realize it.
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>>29116804

Do you work at a job and if so how do you feel about it?
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>>29116949
I actually love working.

I delivered for Papa John's and now I'm delivering for Jimmy John's.
I work while having the trust fund so then I'm not completely draining the trust fund. I make enough to pay my bills each month through JJ's. Trust fund pays for tuition, though.
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>>29112631

>mfw my parents said room and board was 250 quid a month

I thought they were joking and they started getting mad, I had to point out the fact that it was part time and I was making 90 quid a week

I wasn't even offered privacy or fridge space
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>>29117140
Holy fuck you Brits are weird.
I just had to Google 'quid' to see what country you're from.
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>>29117163

glad I didn't say squid or spondulicks
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>>29117010

That's good that you do, but I envy that freedom to quit a job and do something else at any time. It's wonderful to not have to worry much about basic survival.
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>>29113312
I hope this is a joke. If not you need to reassess what it means to be human.
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>>29117206
>that freedom to quit a job and do something else at any time.

Oh yeah, for sure.
Not going to lie, there was at least a year in between my Papa John's job and Jimmy John's job. That time period I was just leeching off of my trust fund. It was without a doubt awesome to be able to do that.
And I'll be the first to admit it, I'm picky when it comes to jobs because of my trust fund. You'll never see me working retail because I wouldn't be able to stand it, because I can fall back on my trust fund.
I'm currently trying to find a busser position at a decent restaurant to stop putting so many miles on my car delivering. Point being that I love the food industry, and if I didn't I could probably get through grad school not working thanks to my gramps.

I'm not trying to rub it in, I'm trying to make the point that I know I'm privileged, but even with this, I still would probably trade this trust fund in for being a Chad Thundercock looking fucker, because working doesn't really bother me that much. And I would much rather be slaying Stacies than my left hand every night.
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>>29116932
this
Kicking your kids out was something done during easier times. In the 70s-90s you just walked up to guy with a help wanted sign and got a job. Even though jobs were easy to find baby boomers still managed to commit more crimes than us
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>>29117334

I wouldn't want to shame you for it, because you didn't choose your life any more than I chose mine.
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>>29112631
That's some white people shit
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My family is Jewish and they didn't even charge me when I lived there. If they were actually Jewish they would take care of their own people.

This just sounds like assholeish parents.
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You're not a Child, there are no Children here.

What you have is fully grown Manchildren who want to live in Never-neverland
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>>29114422
you gotta get out dude dont end it unless youve made peace
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>>29112631
It's fair
Parents don't really want kids most of the time they have kids by accident. They also don't deserve respect either
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>tfw jew
>tfw 24 and still live with parents while not paying a single dime
Just called mum and told her to stop by at the groceries store and buy me a burrito
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>Mom gets charged more rent because I'm working
>She can hardly afford food for the house
>Try to help by giving her money
>"Save your money anon"
>Whenever she does ask for money she's always crying about it
>She only borrows the money and gives it all back later every time
>Electricity and/or hot water gets cut at the end of nearly every month
Fucking take my money already.
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>>29118052
Just go and pay for the shit yourself retard
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>>29118052

Just pay the fucking leccy and gas bills then, dumb frogposter
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>>29118052
>charging more rent because of the financial status of the people who live there

Where the fuck does that happen? I've never even heard of that.
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>>29112631
>child is now at least 20 years old
>they're doing nothing with their life
>you don't have to legally support them anymore
Why not charge them a minor rent? It forces them to get a steady source of income and manage their money a little bit so they can afford the rent. Most of the time it isn't a huge rent. My buddy pays like $400 to his dad every month and still has a lot of spending cash left over.
My dad did the same thing to my sister except at the end he saved all the money she gave him and returned it to her in full when she moved out. Kind of like saving it for her so she had a nice little cushion when she started her life.
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>>29112691
It's the least they could do for bringing me into this hellish existence
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>>29120884
They give housing benifit to low income households in the UK; there's probably something similar in other first world countires as well.
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>>29114799
>fucking up your future just for your parents
Retard.
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>>29116493
>They are for the most part clannish people who help their kids out, give them money, set them up with jobs, bribe college admission directors to let them into Ivies and generally give them a great start.

This.

One of my best friends from high school was from a poor Jewish family, and even his father got him set up with jobs and helped him work out his finances/get an apartment.

White kids are pretty much fucked because their parents are too busy trying to live like it's the 70s again.
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>>29114750
Because people want children. Children grow into adults. After a certain age parents don't see you as a child anymore. They see you as an adult man baby, and you represent their biggest failure as a parents.
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>>29113975
>Bitch, if I 'ruined your life' maybe you shouldn't have given birth to me
I bet you're against abortion.
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>>29114750
BECAUSE AT 18 YOU HAVEN'T BEEN A CHILD FOR YEARS FUCKTARD, YOU'RE A GROWN ASS FAT DISGUSTING NECKBEARD
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>>29122598
Why do the manbabies on this board forget you stop being a literal child when you enter puberty and your teenage years? When you're in teens you're already not a child, you're a teen. When 18 you're a fucking adult.
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>>29122691

Its just lazy assholes not taking responsibility. If they aren't ready to provide for the being they created they shouldn't have procreated in the first place. I'm no antinatalist but it's clear that parents have an obligation to any and all offspring until they or the offspring dies.
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>>29113288
>Cheers m8! Yea, I guess in the eyes of many, one might be considered a pathetic lowlife. I get the whole service package too, mom was in here cleaning yesterday by the looks of it. I've been working since 19 so this has actually allowed me to save up quite a pile. I own an estate with couple of houses but I've always kept tenants in them. There's another guy same age as me just a few miles away who've also been living with parents his whole life, known him since we were 4, he's had some bad luck with his health however, I just gave him 9k for a trip to Australia. Best of luck ahead anon, it's a comfy life and if one don't interact with others so much one quickly forgets the social stigma.

i work, so i'm not a complete "failure" by society's standards.

that being said, i don't give a fuck about what society thinks of me if i live at home at 29. i'm paying back my student loans, i help out my 'rents when needed, and i have enough money left over for stuff i need/want.

likewise, i don't really care if you're a NEET. you seem comfy with your lifestyle. plus, you help your friend when in need/want. so you're a bro in my book. best of luck to you, my friend.
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Why do you guys think you parents have nothing else to teach you when you're grown. Charging rent, or putting you out on your ass is a lesson on being a man, all on its own. You always hear they should have raised me right, on these threads. This is apart of raising you and you're actively trying to fight it, while claiming is all their fault.

It's like not paying attention or caring all year in school. Then getting mad at the teacher for giving you a final exam.
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>>29112742
are you a virgin?

Just curious, in an original post way
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>>29122945

Its more like the parents setting the child up for failure, and then just in case he could be successful they actively sabotage him just to be certain he fails.
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>>29116932
Just ask for the manager and give a firm handshake, that's how I got my job :)
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>>29123413
Failure isn't the be all end all. People learn a lot through failure. Sink or swim you'll never learn if you don't let go of the side of the pool.

It's cool to have a job, and be able to spend or save it how ever you like, but you're still dependent on others for your well being. That's not being successful. It's like taking pride in a test you cheated on. Most parents aren't even charging market value. It's just a taste of what they had/have to do. For all the talk itt about shit parents, what about shit sons who don't even want to help out, and make their parents lives easier.
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>>29112631
Why do Americans hate their kids so much?
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>>29123940

Why do Europeans coddle their kids and turn them into manbabies so much?
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>>29112631
>not wanting to help out the people who made you exist and raised you

Unless they were really shitty parents, it's also the most jewish thing to do, hypocrite.
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>>29123954
>Big tough American guy posting on /r9k/ here.

Whatever bro.
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>>29123954

>implying Islam doesn't teach children responsibility
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>>29123954
>My parents hate me so much I have to pay rent to be allowed to live in their house
>Your parents are t-totally worse
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kek, This thread is hilarious. r9k manchildren are bums. They should be thrown out on the streets the day they turn 18.
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>>29123954
>multi generational living is coddling
>americans actually think this

Living at home is comfy as hell. I help out around the house and get to save my money.
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>>29113312

awesome. You're right ignore theses fucking cunts here

Americans are fucking ruthless
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>>29124043
I'm sorry you had a shit upbringing normie, pls don't take it out on us.
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>>29113288
>have cash
>have at least one friend by the looks of it
Your life seems good enough, though. Go and travel or something.
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>>29113312
>financially exploit me
>needing to pay rent
jesus my man, you are a sad case, youre like women who cry RAPE when someone looks at them
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>when I went to college parents had another kid so there was no room for me
>don't want to live with them, just want to save money by not paying market prices
>don't have any friends to share a house with
>don't want to rent a room with randoms who I could hate
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>>29124083
>had a shit upbringing normie,
nigga, you're a perma-manboy. Who had the shit upbringing?
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>tfw parents don't care whether I work or not
>they would never make me pay rent
>tfw they want me to live with them for how long I want
>they don't even want me to leave, specially my mother
>tfw they want to buy me my own house so that I can live comfy when they will be no more
>tfw dad will leave behind all of his fortune for me and jack shit for my two other siblings

I kind of feel like garbage who can't get anything done in life and solely relies on others.
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>Living at home is comfy as hell
How I imagine what the manboys who use 'cozy' as a way of describing living at their mommy's as a grown man look like.
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>Family becomes poor as fuck 2012 due to dad leaving and being a cunt with the divorce, no child support, etc.
>Mother, little brothers and myself living together
>Brothers too young to work
>Have to quit studying to work because I need to support myself and help out where I can
>Job market is fucking trash so best job I've found so far is ~24 hours a week
>Don't get charged rent because a shitload of time and money goes towards the house and supporting my brothers through high school
>Trying to get fit enough to join the army next year to guarantee a full time job so I can send enough money back home to support family and pay my brothers through their education
>NEET 'friend' constantly gives me shit about how his life is so hard because he pays $50 a fortnight out of his welfare to his mother for rent
>Mfw neets without disabilities complain about how hard their lives are
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Making your parents pay rent is a little jewier, but I have a jewier act still.
My cousin loaned her mother some money, and once the month was up and auntie hadn't made enough to pay her back with interest, the girl started driving her fifty three year old mother to the plasma bank every other week, she literally had her pay it back in blood.
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its their passive aggressive way of kicking your bum ass out of the house
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>>29124433
>Making your parents pay rent is a little jewier, but I have a jewier act still.
You no what's pretty goy? Being an emotionally manipulative, weak willed, suspended adolescent deadbeat.

That's a a pretty goy thing to do. Maybe spend what niggardly income you have on alcohol. That's even more goy.
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>>29124391
You are a man's man, my brother. Keep fighting the good fight.
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>>29124349
Trying to make everyone buy a new house is just preventing dynastic lines of power.
If all the money goes towards the expansions of a single house, piece of land, etc. that family becomes progressively more powerful.
If it all sinks into new and shittier houses, the kikes get to pocket the difference, generation by generation.
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>>29124478
>I actually made a kike mad
Shit, this is like Christmas.
(Christmas is a holiday that doesn't suck and isn't all about saving money on expensive lamp oil)
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>>29124534
Nigga please. Having the drive to move out and establish your own life is pretty much an integral part of being successful at anything.

You neckbeards will blow wind all day before you admit the truth, which is you're either scared or incorrigible.

And kek at thinking antisemitism somehow validates your pathetic choices and status. You fool no one.
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>>29124591
Why don't you go masturbate to cartoons and shove some hydrogenated garbage down your face hillbilly?
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>>29124607
>either scared or incorrigible.

For all their thrift and muh jews bullshit, that's pretty much the reality. These are the losers of society using rhetoric as a coping mechanism.
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>>29124326
I love how you Americans actually think being booted out and giving your hard earned money to Landlord Shekelstein is a sign of maturity. Biggest cucks on the planet.
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>>29124607
One should excel in life, make the most of themselves, but nurturing an estate and a family is a responsibility and rite of passage.
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>>29124722
>but nurturing an estate and a family is a....


antiquated idea from a time long ago.


And let's be real. most of you little niggas are single and living in your mom's basement in a house that isn't worth much on land in some tank town or suburb, that's not worth much either.
I
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>>29124650
JIDF is a serious profession, you can't make those shekels if you're going to be this much of a hot head.
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>>29124349
>le neckbeard meme

I'm sure that'll comfort you. Great thing about living at home is I have plenty of time work on my physique after we all share the housework and help one another, y'know, like any normal family would that isn't full of materialistic sociopaths. I spent most of today laboring in the garden in the sun too, feels good man.
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>>29124607
>>29124688
>losers
>successful

Both of those words are subjective as fuck. I have a decent sized business and live at home. I feel pretty successful. There are people that would say I'm a loser though since I don't have a wife, kids, and a house. It's ridiculous.
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>>29124710
Kek, the Yourapor manboys think their system is superior?

>b-but the Jews


kill yourselves.
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>>29124793
yeah all the real driven guys live at home. Totally believe you.

you forgot to post that hilarious frog in a blanket.
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>>29117218
You need to rethink what it means to be a fucking parent if you think it's okay to demand money from your child.

What's next? Do I have to pay an entrance fee to visit grandma on Christmas? Or maybe they want me to repay the money they spent on my diapers with 20 years worth of interest.

>>29124181
how is it not financial exploitation? People all over the world live with their parents for free, because they're fucking family. I guess family doesnt mean shit after a certain age.
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>>29124811
Not him, but that was the most avoidant comeback I've ever seen.
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>>29124798
>There are people that would say I'm a loser though since I don't have a wife, kids, and a house.
I'm one of them. Grow up. You're a manchild.
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>>29112631
You're right, raising children into responsible adults is a distinctively Jewish activity.

Remember this the next time someone points out how many jews are in congress/the movie industry/the media/banking etc.

There's nothing sinister in keeping track of your offspring and trying to raise them right.
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>>29124862
Nigga, your parents are under no obligation to support you infinitely. No reasonable person believes that. Only suspended adolescent manboys.
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>>29124862
Parents are supposed to RAISE you. That implies that if they did their job properly the end-goal is for the child to be independent.
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>>29124811
Shlomo is on some serious damage control, he's doing a terrible job at shutting this down.
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I have no guilt for anything I burden my parents with. They are the reason I'm here in the first place.

If they didn't want to deal with me, then they shouldn't have had me.
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>>29124875
>You're right, raising children into responsible adults is a distinctively Jewish activity.
Exactly. Stressing education is a distinctively Jewish activity. not being a drunk is a distinctively Jewish activity. Keeping your marriage together is a distinctively Jewish activity. Not beating your wife is a distinctively Jewish activity. etc. etc. etc.
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>>29124837
Believe what you want, I really don't see what incentive I have to lie here. And no I'm not a NEET. The type that lives and home and does nothing is genuinely lazy, yes, but some of us are doing well.
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>>29124866
Ha, ok. Have fun saving less money than me because of rent. You can make yourself feel better by telling everyone how independent you are. Maybe when you retire at 60 you can tell everyone how you earned it, and didn't get any help from anyone.
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>>29124954
>If they didn't want to deal with me, then they shouldn't have had me.
Nigga you're not their responsibility FOREVER. At some point baby boy has to become a man.
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And we wonder why white men are getting btfo at every turn. Even the nigger will take care of his mom with his illicit gains. Move from coal burner to coal burner to leave his mother's house. So ashamed of my people.
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>>29113365
Try McDonald's. After applying to over 30 places, they are the only ones who got back to me. I work 40 hours a week and it sucks but at least I've got a job for the first time.
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>>29124995
Nigga please. Cheapness has a cost all it's own.

What costs more: rent or falling behind your peers, becoming an outcast, not developing a social network etc.?

Successful guys don't live at home. Most don't even live in the same city they were born.

Living at home is a low class provincial phenomenon. and even then, it's must for the duds.
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>>29125080
*mostly for duds.
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>>29125004
Why do I have to get a full-time job and live in a shitty apartment to prove I'm a man? I don't want to be a slave. Besides, time on earth is limited and nothing matters in the end anyway.
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>>29124982
>Exactly. Stressing education is a distinctively Jewish activity. not being a drunk is a distinctively Jewish activity. Keeping your marriage together is a distinctively Jewish activity. Not beating your wife is a distinctively Jewish activity. etc. etc. etc.
Yep.

Now some will claim that Christians, even perhaps Muslims, also believe in the same thing.

But where did they learn that from? Where did they get their virtues? From the Torah.

Some say the Buddha had a separate mission in the east, perhaps, I don't know as much about their cultures. But western civilization is and has always been a project of jews and those who imitate and/or adopt jewish virtues.
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>>29125080
>What costs more: rent or falling behind your peers, becoming an outcast, not developing a social network etc.?

All the peers I have are doing much worse than me, people will overlook the living at home thing if you own your own business, and who cares about social networks?

>Successful guys don't live at home. Most don't even live in the same city they were born.

I beg to differ.

>Living at home is a low class provincial phenomenon. and even then, it's must for the duds.

All the people that I've known that got kicked out were low income trailer trash, all the well off people except for one still live at home and are going to college/saving for a house.
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>>29113015
He wasn't counting up to 18.
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My parents didn't charge me rent until I got autism bux and they take less then the government recommends. Are they Jews?
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>>29125128
Fucking this. Life will be over in 70 years or less. Might as well enjoy it.
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>>29125128
You're really blowing my mind anon. Save it for homeroom tomorrow.
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>>29125201
>I beg to differ.
You can beg all you want to, it's true. Successful people, who go to good schools (almost always away from home), graduate and go where the good jobs are. There's a reason real estate is NYC, SF and DC is so high.

But sure, the 3 kids who went to your hick high-school I'm sure are a fantastic barometer.
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>mfw I will save thousands of dollars a year by living with family
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>>29125211
Jews are smart enough to know 'Autism' is bullshit. So probably not.
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>making your parents pay rent to live in their own house
Judaism achieved?
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>>29125245
>le fedora response

You really got me good anon, well meme'd
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>>29125229
Enjoying your life is being some loser plugging away at his mom's house addicted to porn, video games and junk food?

Yeah no, pass. Accomplishment is a greater joy than sloth.
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>>29125292
"Succesful"is completely subjective. I make a good amount of money, have everything I want, and just generally enjoy life. I would call that successful and have a hard time seeing how anyone could argue otherwise.

>>29125345
Well I'm glad I've finally met the fucking arbiter of what an accomplishment is. Please enlighten me o great one.
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>>29124901
That's right. Silly me. It's MY job to support these clowns I never asked to be related to, because my mom shat me out of her cunt.

>>29124928
Well, they didnt. So I guess that's somehow not their fault?
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>>29125345
>implying I watch porn, play video games or eat junk food

I'm /fit/ (natty) and enjoy exploring the outdoors with my video camera. I'm pretty content tbqh
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>>29112631
>making your dad pay rent

Got him set up in a converted barn, 2 beds open plan, the works at the bottom of my field. He sold his house and lives his days studying and playing badminton.

He pays me in metal because he said ' I don't want to be jew'd when I die'
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>>29125406
>It's MY job to support these clowns
No. It's your job to take care of you. it's there job to take care of themselves. what are you going on about you raging sperg?
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>>29125448
If their job is only to take care of themselves, then why did they force someone into the world against their will?
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>>29125402
>"Succesful"is completely subjective. I make a good amount of money, have everything I want, and just generally enjoy life. I would call that successful and have a hard time seeing how anyone could argue otherwise.

this to be honest. The materialism in here is disappointing, though not surprising. There's more to life than slaving away at a high paying miserable job and coming home to a tiny empty apartment. I love being with my family.
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>>29125490
Are you seriously this immature?
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>>29125523
How is that immature?
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>>29112959
>Thinking this will help your offspring
What's the logic?
>If I rush them out of the house and leave them with no support or knowledge of how things work, they'll be indebted wagecucks in no time! Great!
>Life experience helps everyone! It's the most important thing ever!
>Making mistakes is part of development, even when it screws you over financially!
>They'd never resent me if I disown them as soon as legally possible!
Maybe it's my mentality having grown up in a non-american household, but this system of "follow your dreams, get some life skills, and leave us so you can figure it out yourself" is retarded and doesn't actually make the following generation any better than the preceding one.
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>>29125544
If you're so butthurt about being born why don't you just kill yourself then? Honestly curious.

You'll be rent free, stress free forever.
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>>29125402
>"Succesful"is completely subjective.
Here we go. Classic SJW/Neckbeard behavior. Let's start redefining words.

Yes 'success' can not be measured. It's impossible. Reaching level 3 on some vidya is the same as getting a degree from a top college or starting a successful business. It's like all about what you value man.

Completely mental gymnastic.... covering up your shortcomings in a river or worthless rhetoric.
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wtf?

Am I the only one who gets sent an invoice by their parents?

Pic related, it is last months. This is such bullshit. I need to move out.
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>>29124901
>your parents are under no obligation to support you infinitely
that's absurd. Imagine if we treated pets the same way.
>"Well Rover, that was a good 3 years we had together, but now you're 21 and have to take care of yourself. Have fun hunting for food. You know, hunting, that thing we never taught you because we babied you nonstop."
No. You're a shitty parent if you arent prepared to take care of your offspring, just like you're a shitty pet owner for kicking Fido to the curb after an arbitrary number of years.
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>>29125572
>wahhh i want everything spoonfed to me in life

You're a fucking weak faggot. Future generations are more and more useless cause they never try to figure out shit for themselves.
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