>muh bootstraps hurr hard work
>>29108384
>I am alive
>I am grateful
Stopped reading there
>>29108384
So name one lazy person you aspire to
>>29108434
Not being a cuck for corporations and the bourgeoise =/= being against working hard
It's true, unfortunately I feel like I missed the boat and have don't have any motivation or have much hope for the future.
>>29108461
Corporations rule the world, grow up kid. Or you still busy fighting the good fight
i fucking hate that smug look on his face
Look at that smug face. Look how proud he is of himself for thinking he found a position that cannot be criticized at it is the "honest mans working life."
So many people think this guy is one of the last sensible people on Earth. Mike Rowe is a coward who is shamelessly vocal about how modest and "at peace" he is.
>No such thing as a bad job
I pity anyone who has to clean up after my public restroom visits. I just piss everywhere but the toilet and shit on the toilet seat just to fuck with them. How'd you look on the bright side of that?
What a legendary tool.
>>29108606
>Maybe one day i'll become the owner of this rest stop!
He gives meaning and inspiration to the 99% of low paying but necessary jobs. Reminds everything that they do something important and if it's not important - it can be made so. Fuck yall h8ers
I do agree with his "Fuck your degree, learn a trade" stance.
We have too many college graduates, college is a scam. What we don't have not enough, due to a retiring work force, are plumbers, electricians, and other skilled trades.
Trade school is much much cheaper and it's possible for people to put themselves through it without financial assistance. The jobs pay well, especially if you work in an industry where there is demand.
The number of beta nu-males who can't fix a toilet or change the head gasket on their car is skyrocketing. Charge the shit out of them in labour costs.
>>29108665
please kill yourself immediately
>>29108606
>I pity anyone who has to clean up after my public res
i work a janitor i n a big train terminal and this is not even inconvenieint we just wear gloves and scoop shit with hand
I would have no problem with this if it was "Well, it sucks having to work for a living, but you might as well try and make the best of it"
What grinds my gears is when people say you should enjoy it and be thankful for having to do it.
>not working in a unionized labor field for a local company
>not making great pay while improving the town around you
stay mad, neets
>>29108384
>>29108384
>some media millionaire who has a TV show where he does various "dirty jobs" for one day a week for a few months a year trying to lecture the peons about "hard work"
And he's probably laughing all the way to the bank as he snorts a fat ass line of coke from some hooker's ass crack in the back seat of a limo while a million retards share this picture.
If he actually did those "dirty jobs" 40 hours a week, 50+ weeks of the year (if he's lucky enough to even have 2 weeks of vacation), he'd be singing a different tune.
It's like when Bill Gates tried to lecture students about how "no job is below them" and they should humble themselves and be grateful to make minimum wage at McDonalds.
I prefer rich people who are shamelessly lazy and decadent. At least they aren't full of shit.
>>29108838
Unions, what fucking joke. Keep picketing job sites, because companies from out of state will do the job for a fair price.
>>29108384
usually money is inherited. The bootstraps is just a justification and a false glimmer of hope to prevent the poor from killing the rich and taking their money (which is in their own self-interest). Look up "Horatio Alger".
>>29108384
But anon, I got a job by walking into a store and looking the owner in the eye and shaking his hand.
>>29108512
>maturity means accepting everything as it is and never daring to dream of or fight for anything better
That's a sad way to look at the world.
>>29108935
absolutely this.
>>29108947
gotta keep the plebs content somehow
>maybe if i work super duper hard for 10 years my boss will give me three whole weeks of vacation!
and people ask why suicide is the leading cause of death in working class people
>>29108384
>millennials
Christ this generation is doomed
Is he trying to be a politician making shit up where shit doesn't exist. Why is pandering to middle America so effective?
Is it just me or is this place becoming more socialist/lefty.
Maybe it's because far right views are becoming more acceptable socially and 4chan must always side against mainstream society's opinions.
>>29108947
>usually money is inherited.
So people should just stop working hard because someone, somewhere was born into wealth? So we should bitch and moan and automatically hate all people who are successful for that reason?
What a joke.
>The bootstraps is just a justification and a false glimmer of hope to prevent the poor from killing the rich and taking their money
Ha. I don't think anyone is worried about that ever happening. Because here's the thing about leftists. If they had any sort of drive, work ethic or brains, they wouldn't fucking be leftists, would they? If they can't even hold down a job for a few months, what hope do they have of overthrowing the bourgeois?
>>29108384
>I believe that I have won the greatest lottery of all time. I am alive.
How is that winning? What exactly are nonexistent people missing out on by not being alive? Nothing because they don't exist. Fuck you Mike Rowe you stupid fuck.
LET'S ALL FUCKING IGNORE THE FACT THE "PULLING YORUSELF BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS" CAME ABOUT TO DESCRIBE SOMETHING THAT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.
RETARD AMERICUNTS TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES AS GOSPEL LIKE THE RETARDS THEY ARE
>>29109088
/r9k/ is a place for the defective, mentally ill and narcissistic. And those sorts of people have always made up the bulk of leftists.
/r9k/ has always had a red streak
>>29109121
Wasn't Lenin the one who came up with that saying in the first place?
anyone /union/ here
>>29109141
Espousing leftist view points here generally gets you called a SJW/cuck/libshit/PC faggot etc.
>>29109141
Yeah, but I don't think /r9k/ is consciously leftist, it's more that it's really hard to distinguish between people who are pathetic vs. people who are liberal.
Why have americans twisted the word 'liberal' to be synonymous with leftist.
It just makes things really confusing when you try to talk to people from other countries.
>>29109121
its a metaphore you autist
>>29109004
>fight for anything better
and are you? Or just the easy dreaming part which gives you confidence to talk like you would? Do you believe most people who agree with you are acting similarly?
>>29109141
Wow. You're fucking insane. This is the second most conservative board behind /pol/, who are even more defective, mentally ill, and narcissistic.
>3. I believe there is no such thing as a "bad job"
Then why do so many employers steal from their employees?
Is it not a "bad job" if your employer is making you the victim of wage theft?
http://www.epi.org/blog/wage-theft-by-employers-is-costing-u-s-workers-billions-of-dollars-a-year/
Billions. Not millions, billions.
American workers are having BILLIONS of dollars stolen from them by their employers.
What's your answer to that?
You said there are no "bad jobs". Is a job where your employer is STEALING YOUR WAGES not a bad job?
Should you be happy for the chance to work without the pay that is due you? Is it an "opportunity" to be the victim of THEFT?
I SAY NO.
>>29109196
a metaphor for something that is impossible to do you fucking dipshit
>>29108678
ever heard of a millionaire plumber?
>>29109141
>>29109217
It's not the left that draws the disaffected, mentally ill, narcissistic, and angry, it's radical movements in general.
Fascism had these people at the nucleus of its movement as well.
Happy, well adjusted normies are generally too busy enjoying their lives to give a second thought to fringe political movements.
What happens is, during good times, you have polarized groups of robot autists on either side of the political spectrum writing manifestos and threatening to shoot other when the revolution comes. When society starts to go downhill and common normies become discontent, the normies gravitate towards one side or the other, and the Fascist/Commie robots finally have normalfag footsoldiers to fight for their ideals.
>>29109004
k so what are you doing to fight for something better?
aside from collect welfare paid for by those corporations via government?
>>29109152
I wish. Hopefully I'll get a union job but my current job fucking stomps out unions.
>>29109164
>>29109169
>>29109217
>We claim welfare, don't fit into traditional gender roles, have an irrational hatred of successful people, revel in our own failure to the point where we treat it like an identity, stay unmarried at late ages, are open about our deviant sexual preferences, and have the classic self-pitying leftist attitude of hating success and celebrating failure
>B-but we're still cool, edgy conservatives like our buddies at /pol/ because we say "cuck" sometimes
>>29109404
Hey, don't shoot the messenger, but when you can expect at least one literal nazi to appear in any given thread, yeah, forum's right-wing.
>>29109247
yea I have lol
>>29109199
>>29109316
I demand answers for these Marxfag
>>29109454
This place would fucking hate living in a National Socialist society. If you think the society we have NOW treats people like us poorly, a society built on Nazi principles would be an absolute nightmare.
We just like calling people fags/niggers/kikes/etc. and triggering normies with swastikas.
>>29109152
IBEW here
Jesus, a guy who got a degree in opera, who got a break on the home shopping network is telling people to be thankful for the scraps they get.
>>29109595
You're right that everyone here would be gassed for being "work-shy." You're wrong in doubting how sincerely crazy some people on here are.
>>29108384
10 is the only one I don't completely agree with
>>29108384
He's right though, you beta cuck losers are not entitled to anything. The only one you have to blame for all your problems in life is yourself.
>>29111052
I like when people harp on about things like universal basic income when the more rational solution is to just let non-essential people die out. Depopulation is a much more sound solution than socialism.
>>29111052
>lol societal factors aren't real muh individualism
>>29108665
I'm not a Bernfag or commie but you do understand we are only performing services for the rich, right? The rich and poor have two totally different ecosystems.
>>29108512
People are the corporations
>>29108461
>bourgeoise
please, tell me about your commie beliefs you economic illiterate :^)
>>29111287
You know the Bourgeoisie are real whether you are a communist or not. They as a class are a lot older than Karl Marx.
>>29109247
You'd be surprised. You don't hear of them very often because they are technically still part of the "working class"; that is, they are in different circles than rich investors, attorneys, stock brokers, businessmen, etc.
>>29109584
Well I can't answer for every communist (personally I'm an anarchist, not a Marxist, but there's no indication the people those posts were responding to were Marxists so I'm going to assume you think all left wingers are Marxists).
I'm a teacher at a small school and apply anarchist structure to the classroom when I can. This usually means letting the students lead lessons with me serving as a mentor rather than heavily teacher led discussion. This is just my preference, however.
I'm a member of the IWA
I attend anti austerity protests semi regularly
I support unions and union actions when I can, never cross a picket line
I volunteer at youth initiatives in my community, helping kids get off drugs, into education, getting real skills to help them progress in life
>>29109247
If he owns a plumbing company, then, yes.
I don't knoe if its been pointed out before,
but this guy is idolized by reddit and imgur primarily. And those sites are used by a lot of blue collar white folk.
So yeah.
>>29108384
>i do not resent the success of others
>>29109093
No you shouldn't stop working but you should call rich people out on their lies that if you worked harder you would be them, you wouldn't. You are born either directly into money through inheritance or at the least you speak fancier English and have greater educational opportunities if your parents are wealthy.
>>29108678
I'd sooner shoot myself than work a trade, so fucking boring
>>29108935
holy fuck this
mike rowe goes around wearing a ratty t shirt, a dirty baseball cap, and washed out jeans with work boots and people just blindly buy into him being some blue collar workin' man's man despite the fact that he has literally no blue collar background whatsoever (in fact according to wiki the only work experience he has outside of acting is being a professional opera singer kek)
>>29109192
Politics in any nation has its own buzzwords and fads. Theres a whole culture built around whats 'ok' to say in every nation on earth. You can easily say one thing in one nation and have it be fringe, and in another be the same thing everyone else is saying. Liberal/democrats have also changed vastly in their views over the past few years, to the point where Bill Clinton himself says that everything he did in office was something he wished that he hadn't done. This is coming out of the most popular living president who is hailed as being able to walk the line between the two parties and championed countless intelligent legislation.
>>29109595
Hitler made all the women quit their jobs and get married and have kids. /r9k/ would be in heaven.
>>29111086
The question is entirely ethical when anyone discusses universal basic income or welfare programs. If they were ever practical, it would be obvious that these programs are palliative and ultimately drain the economy over time. Right now they just have them set for unlimited growth because the growing aging population would vote out anyone who didn't fund their final medical bills.
Its a cancer on the american governement as a whole, just like the pension system. It was always unsustainable, its just everyone knew that their kids would have to pay for it.
As for dirty jobs guy.
I just want to say that jobs are not fun. For most of human history, you did what you had to and you didn't have choices like 'go masturbate and hope the other guys will hunt down a buffalo'.
I think its worth considering that perhaps because we are getting far too used to getting our way that in fact we're cheating ourselves of the self-satisfaction of a hard days work and a paycheck duly earned.
Which is not to say I want to do ANY of the dirty jobs, but I think its worth being grateful at least that you can go sit in a call center and make just as much as someone working hard physical labor.
Other countries have it far worse.
>>29111052
>The only one you have to blame for all your problems in life is yourself.
This is simply a lie though.
>>29109046
Google the dude. While I can't say that he does not do blow off a hooker's asshole, I can say he did not inherit any money, and did not come from a family that was involved in media. Bill Gates did not just blunder his way to where he was. He was middle class, then he was a college dropout, then he out smarted, and out played everyone in the computer industry at the time, and came out on top. If you are going to try to make that claim, at least use someone who did not make over 99.9% of the money they have in their lifetime. You don't even have a case with those guys.
>>29111560
>Hitler made all the women quit their jobs and get married and have kids. /r9k/ would be in heaven.
This place is degenerate as fuck by Nazi standards. Most of us would be in camps for some reason or another.
>>29111420
I don't think that we are thinking of the same kind of Anarchy.
Unions=Part time Government instigators
>>29111661
Anarchy as described by Bakunin? Not at all. Right now Unions are corrupt, but even at their worst they're far better than your average corporate thugs, many of whom won't even allow workers to unionize.
>>29111683
That is Collectivist anarchism, not "pure" Anarchy. Anarchy in our modern world is more of a thought experiment than a actual model. At it's most base idea though, it is the idea of a absence of organized groups trying to exert control over anyone. When you have unions, you don't have anarchy, because the union becomes a governing force. Unions were always corrupt, where have you been? They were started in this country by the mob to enforce protection rackets. They were later reinforced by the government, and converted into a political engine. You have to remember that a corporate thug as you put it can only threaten people's job in that company. The person has the freedom to leave, a union on the other hand can hold someone's business hostage in many states. In mine for instance, you have to shut down, and close all accounts for six months to dissolve a union, and you cannot fire a union worker so long as the union wants him to keep his job. Unions are not conducive to an anarchist system.
The picket line you referenced is the idea of a group of individuals trying to extort money off someone. That is not a voluntary exchange.
>>29111598
Well yeah but Gates wasn't just lucky he was litigious as fuck and everyone hated him for a billion reasons and at the end of all his power plays and nonsense warren buffet convinced him to just give away most of his money when he dies. He spends most of it on africans and shit now.
So basically, he conquered the fucking business world to run around and spend money on poor people. What exactly was the point?
>>29111683
My favorite story was the union who wanted to bargain with the local government to lower their wages because they knew that the governments minimum wage was raised too high and that many of the union members would lose their jobs.
A union advocating to lower the wages of it workers.
And I would argue that private sector unions aren't the issue, public sector are especially prison unions that advocate for things like minimum sentencing and keeping pot illegal.
>1
Being alive is great, I don't think anybody can argue with that, but the entire Earth, including America, has gone to shit. There is very little hope.
>2
Entitlement has nothing to do with belief, it has to do with what your master decides you are entitled to.
>3
Walking out your front door is an opportunity, all work is bad, that is why it is called work.
>4
Literally Stockholm syndrome.
>5
Agreed.
>6
Agreed.
>7
Agreed.
>8
Agreed.
>9
Agreed.
>10
I agree, but never say never. There certainly will be times other people truly are to blame for challenges you face.
>11
Agreed.
>>29112141
>the entire Earth, including America, has gone to shit. There is very little hope.
litterally the highest wages, highest access to medical care, highest access to food, and highest quality of living in the history of mankind is right now
>>29112238
If you enjoy the weight of chains, to each his own, but some men that value freedom over comfort yet remain.
>>29109247
Look at this cuck
Plumbers make more than most college grads
>>29112276
Then move to Africa
USA is literally the most free first world country
>>29111052
That works both ways dipshit.
You don't seem to understand that you and the baby boomer ilk no longer get to shout 'UR NOT ENTITLED SUCK IT UP' in a world that provides little to no incentive for participation.
Look around you, men get their shit wrecked by family courts, the job application requirements for a livable wage are absurd, and more people than ever opt to just say 'fuck it' and watch porn, shitpost all day or lose themselves in a good game. And really? Who the fuck can blame them?
I bet you're the same type of motherfucker who complains who these people not wanting to make 'muh contribushuns' to a sinking ship. But really
What makes society entitled to the contribution of people that it screwed over? Reap what you sow boomers, turns out destroying the social contract wasn't such a good idea after all.
>>29112385
America is the best option, for now, but to call it a free country is the height of willful ignorance.
Let the normies believe this so society becomes better desu. Who cares? You don't have to believe it
>>29112401
when these people not wanting*
not who
>>29111052
>hurr durr muh freewill
>>29111052
>black kid born to a single mother crackwhore
>spends his entire childhood getting assraped by his mom's aids infested drug dealers
Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps you lazy chump ;)
>>29112909
>ape born into jungle
>gets beat to death by rival clan apes
Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps you lazy chump ;)
>you will eat by and by!
>in that glorious land above the sky!
>work and pray, live on hay
>you'll get pie in the sky when you die
Just replace 'when you die' with 'in some vaguely potential future where you become rich and cease to be a wagecuck'.
>>29109247
You can be a working or middle class plumber by your early twenties and with exponentially less debt and better prospects than some idiot getting a Bachelor's in communications.
>>29112909
Tony Robbins got abused and cleaning liquid poured down his mouth. He literally found the first mentor he could and copied his shit.
Bootstraps is impossible, but its not real life. People you believe can't do shit end up doing stuff all the time and overcoming all sorts of difficulty. Taking a negative mindset and pitching a situation where everything seems impossible is just inaccurate and limiting. That doesn't mean that its easy or that the people in those situations are just weak, its because they didn't get help and didn't make enough effort to recieve that help or the situation was truly quite hopeless. Either way to find out you're correct requires a test of the persons life.
