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>life still hasn't miraculously improved despite me having
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>life still hasn't miraculously improved despite me having done absolutely nothing to improve my situation.

what gives?
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>>29097764
>normies actually believe you can just "stop being ugly"
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>>29098118
Working out, eating better, washing your face, getting a haircut, and wearing decent looking cloths sure do help your ugly ass not be digusting to see.
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>>29098154
And it still won't fix shitty jaw, small height, small frame and many other things that determine your looks and are completely out of your control.
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>>29098154
>washing your face
If I see this fucking meme one more time
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>>29098118
Yes, you can just stop being ugly. It's the way you can just stop fat. All you have to do is try. It's simple, you put effort in and you get results out. There's literally nothing else to it. The only thing stopping you from being what you want is yourself.
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>>29098281
So you are saying that things you can not change do not contribute to ugliness at all?
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>>29098200
Being a whiny faggot is in your control though. If you choose to be a whiny faggoy, well, don't be surprised when life sucks for you.
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>>29098118
>being ugly is the root of all your problems

wew
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>>29098281
Hello, anime pawn, how are you doing on this fine day?
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>>29097764
I do try, though. I went in for a job, I went in to try and get my license. Every time something goes wrong, I figure out there are a thousand hoops I have to jump through for everything.
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>>29098407
What exactly did you try and fail? If it was important why didn't you try again?
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>>29098339
My life will suck even if I work hard. I will be working hard to get things that Chad gets easily. You can call it whining, but complaining about injustice? That's whining? So the manly thing to do is to just take it? Explain yourself.
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>>29098154
>>29098281
Okay, please tell me what clothes I could wear or haircut I could get to fix my crooked, bulbous nose, my blind, lazy eye, my stroke-resulted drooping face, or the fact that my face is canted at an angle compared to my abnormally-large head, which contains my retarded, mentally-ill brain that makes me scared of people, the sky, and going outside. Please tell me the /fa/ secrets to fixing my life.
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>everyone will think this is a satirical post
>this is actually a self-loathing post

You don't need any attention, OP
You need focus.
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>>29098427
I knew it was you. Seriously, look at you. You do nothing but whine on /r9k/ every day all day. Think about it, if you used that time and energy on improving yourself instead? You would become Chad in no time.

Chads are not born, neither are robots. They are the product of life decisions.
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>>29098550
>You would become Chad in no time.
You can't become a Chad. I can't become attractive. My facial bone structure is too fucked. So is my height, my penis size. Not to mention I'm as dumb as brick.

Things out of your control pretty much determine all your life. Your genes and family are all that matters.
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>>29098319
The ones that you can change are enough to let you steer life however way you wish.
>>29098403
How could you tell me apart from the other anime posters, master?
I'm doing fine. Just help this board the way I see best.
>>29098488
I'd you're going to ask all that of us, then post a picture. That way we can best tailor our advice to your needs.
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>>29098607
>The ones that you can change are enough to let you steer life however way you wish.
And let's say I wanted to be a top male model? Not that I want to, but you're obviously full of shit.

And you're overestimating the siginificance of things you can change.
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>>29098651
But that obviously wouldn't work because that isn't what you wish. The type of people that would want to be top male models would put more effort than dismissing the idea immediately. Obviously this isn't you which is why the idea seems so far out there.
I'm not overestimating anything. If anything, I'm being realistic.
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>>29098705
No it wouldn't work because I'm fucking short and ugly. Seriously are you retarded? You tell me anyone can become a top model just by hard work and you also say you're realistic?

You're so fucking dumb. Completely disregarding predispositions.
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>>29098607
I'm not going to take a picture so all of you can laugh at me, and it was a rhetorical fucking question anyway. There are some things that can't be fixed. There are some things that are out of your control. To get on your condescending, unempathetic moral high horse and mock people for things they can't change and never had a choice in is just stupid, but I don't expect anything more at this point from you people. You'll just pat yourself on the back, close the tab, and think, "Job well done." You're not helping. You're not giving useful advice. You're not saying anything that most people on here haven't already thought of and tried before. You're not doing anything, really, except making yourself feel better at our expense. This whole empty "tough love" platitude accomplishes nothing.
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>>29098118
>it's because I'm ugly!
Robots actually believe this
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>>29098738
You must have not read my post. The people who would want to, can. The people who don't, that is you, can't. You simply don't want to and that's why you won't. You can attack me all you want, but that doesn't make you anymore correct.
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>>29098777
First of all, this says nothing about them dating.

Second of all. He could be rich, he could have a big dick or something else.
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>>29098789
where are all the ugly, short top models then? surely at least one of the millions in this world wanted to become a top model
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>height

You cant change height

Fact
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>>29098789
Are you fucking retarded? Have you ever seen goddamn male models? Top few % of men looks wise. It's one of the things that are completely about predispositions. You're just fucking wrong, but all you do is you repeat
>nuh uh, i'm right

But you're not. Anyone who is at least little rational would see this. Hard work is necessary for success, but it's not sufficient. To succeed you also need luck. The people who succeed aren't just the ones who are hard working, but also those who are lucky.
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>>29098607
Good to hear, anime poster.

And considering I pull the strings, it wasn't that hard finding you.
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>>29098768
You sound like a loser, m8
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>>29098875
He obviously is. Because he chose to be one.
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>>29098843
>height

Height is irrelevant

Fact
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>>29098789
You're fifty and you decide to become an astronaut. It's an epiphany and you realize you've wanted this your whole life, but it took you until now to realize it. NASA says fuck off, you're too old. Did you fail because you didn't want it hard enough, or did you fail because of factors outside of your control?

Stop with this Just-World fallacious garbage. Good people can fail. It's as simple as that. Life isn't a movie where the good guy is guaranteed a happy ending.
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>>29098894
he probably had a stroke because he ate too much fastfood while watching anime and playing 'vidya' lmao
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>>29098909
Yeah let's just ignore all the statistics about how short men are extremely disadvantaged in dating. How they on average earn less, have less happy marriages and are less likely to get into leadership positions.
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>>29098935
>muh statistics

Maybe short men choose to be losers more often. In reality if you are short nothing will stop you from being successful. Height is irrelevant.
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>>29098800
Cry more, bitch nigga

>Second of all. He could be rich, he could have a big dick or something else.
And he's ugly. And he's got a gf. I've already proven you wrong; don't try to change to topic
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>>29098875
Nice, so you resort to insults and demonizing me because you don't have an actual argument. This happens every thread with you people.
>I hate my life.
>BRO JUST DO X AND STOP BITCHING LMAO
>I've already tried X multiple times, my problems can't be fixed with X.
>WOW WHAT A FUCKING LOSER LMAO NO WONDER YOU HATE YOURSELF YOU FUCKING FAILURE LMAO
Every time, without fail.

>>29098894
I chose to be born three months premature, deformed, raised in poverty without a father, and grow up mentally-ill? How exactly did I choose any of that?
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>>29099002
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA

You are such a fucking retard. Just keep living in your just world. But we all know the truth.
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>>29098909
Height is the single most important factor for getting girls.

>b-but I'm 6'2" and I'm a robot!!
You can be a loser at any height, tall or short. But you can NEVER be Chad unless you're AT LEAST 6'. It doesn't matter how smart, charming, or kind you are. Women believe """men""" under 5'10" aren't human.

t. A bitter 5"8' manlet robot
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>>29099018
If I post an albino zebra, does that prove that no zebras are black and white?
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>>29098238
It's not a meme though. For like 95% of people that have ance washing face cures it.
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>>29099018
she looks unhappy in those pictures though.
Like she's just staying around for money.
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>>29099085
That anecdotes don't mean anything. I guess I should have been more direct when talking to a normie.

If I posted a lottery winner, does that mean anyone who buys a ticket can win a lottery?
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>>29099079
>making all these shitty excuse
You could be on your way to improving yourself and getting a decent gf by now. Very sad.
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>>29099047
I post things reassuring you guys so much that I've actually gotten around to making an image surrounding the topic
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>>29098118
There are ugly chicks too.
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>>29098800
>He could be rich
You can do something to improve your financial situation, no? Either way, sounds like OP's right.
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>>29099110
>making this shitty refutation that doesn't disprove her looking unhappy in that photo
I don't want a girlfriend who's just going to fuck me and take my money.
I look for more in a relationship than sex, although I guess you wouldn't understand that, you fucking normie.
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>>29098200
So fix what you can control. Crying doesn't help.
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>>29099131
I'm talking extremely rich. Out of all the people who work hard to get rich, only the ones who are also lucky manage to do it.

Success = hard work + luck

If you don't have luck, you're still fucked.
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>>29098832
You're making assumptions. Why do you believe that there must be someone that is ugly and short who wants to be a male model that wants to be a male model, but don't think any exist?
>>29098856
Yes, I have. That is why I'm questioning whether or not you have because from what I've seen, that is unlikely. I've never said anything remotely similar to "I'm right."
Hard work is sufficient. When you're reaching for any goal, if you put enough effort in, your success is guaranteed.
>>29098871
What do you think of this thread, master? Are you enjoying the way it's leading?
>>29098910
Do you speak from personal experience? Someone you know?
If we're making fallacies, then one of yours would be the fallacy fallacy.
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>>29099158
Why should I work extra hard just to get to the point where Chad is by default? It's not fucking fair. Only a retarded cuck would accept it.
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>>29099115
Doing god's work, anon. Thank you for making me feel better about my height and giving me some hope. I hope you have a good day.
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>>29099227
No problem, man.
I want this "manlet" meme to stop once and for all.
You have a great day too.
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>>29099184
No, I'm making a realistic analogy and you're dodging it. You're claiming that you can achieve something you want ot you just desire and work for it hard enough, without taking into account external factors that would prevent you from succeeding no matter how great your effort and desire.
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>>29099106
>That anecdotes don't mean anything
Said the retard using personal anecdotes to make his original argument: >>29098118
>I'm ugly with no gf so uggos can't get gfs!
>waaaaah you're not allowed to use other people's anecdotal evidence to prove me wrong!
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>>29099194
Only a manbaby would give up and cry about it. You're literally being a baby here dude. Chads work out, they work on social skills, and try. Why shouldn't you have to?
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>>29099238
Don't like something? Fix it.
Can't fix it? Work around.
That's the way we've been working since the beginning of civilization and you're choosing to ignore it because you refuse to work, instead thinking it's better to blame it on some boogeyman.
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>>29099278
Oh look, it's the social skills meme again. This isn't a fucking RPG. You either know how to talk to people or you don't. If you try to "learn" social skills you'll be like an alien trying and failing to blend in among Earth's populace. You can't un-Autist yourself. If you didn't have healthy socialization during your formative years, you're not going to become some suave, charming smoothtalker in your lifetime.
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>>29099173
See >>29099316

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>>29099184
>Hard work is sufficient. When you're reaching for any goal, if you put enough effort in, your success is guaranteed.
I want to be 6'5" then. Let's see how would one go about growing almost a foot.
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>>29099194
>why?

Because life is random, unthinking and arbitrary. Sure chad got lucky and has life handed to him, and sure there is no karmic justice for the hardship you endured. That is just the way existence is.

I wont tell you to change, but I am going to tell you to shut the fuck up. The facts are simple and you have three options.

>improve yourself. Endure hell until you are a better man

>continue to cry and rail against literally nothing

>step down, accept your lot, accept your unwillingness to change and find contentment outside the traditional norm

or just kill yourself. It's getting to the point where, as an omega/grazer you betas are worse then any chad with your endless petulant whining
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>>29099362
>what is practicing for interviews
>what are speeches
>what are presentations
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>>29099362
You literally can fix them. That's why they're called skills. It's not a meme. It's life.
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>>29099362
>skillz aren't learnt they're a biological construct!
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>>29099256
I wasn't using personal anecdotes, but statistics.

>>29099278
Because when I do this I will have worse results than the Chad. It's not fucking fair. You can call me a baby but at least I'm not a cuck who accepts injustice.

>>29099373
Just because few guys get ugly doesn't mean everyone can get ugly.
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>>29099380
Geez you really sound like a bitter baby
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>>29099380
I wouldn't know. That's not something I want. If you really wanted to know you'd try finding it out yourself instead of relying on someone else to tell you. You know, working for it and all.
But, seeing as you're here trying to argue with me instead of trying to get taller, it looks like you're just lying to me and yourself.
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>>29099414
>I wasn't using personal anecdotes, but statistics.
Is this some retarded form of gaslighting?
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>>29099414
What injustice? Nobody wronged you here. You are making yourself into a victim.
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>>29099438
Funny thing is if he could only learn confidence and stop coming across as a constanza-tier failure he'd discover his height is irrelevant in the long term.
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>>29099479
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>29098154
This does not change your face.
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>>29099380
Break your legs and let them heal until your legs grow almost a foot. You know how to get taller now, and you still won't do it because you're a lazy pussy who will make up any excuse he can to not do it.
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Who brought in the normie brigade?
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>>29099361
How do I fix or work around >>29098488? If I could have fixed it or worked around it, don't you think I would have thought of a way by now? Do you think I like being too scared to go outside? Do you think I like looking like a freak? It's so easy to sit behind a computer screen listening to someone else's problems, posting a picture of a smug anime girl, and telling them to "fix it or work around it." Those are empty words. There are things you can't fix. There are things you can't work around.

But please, by all means, continue being a dismissive, condescending cunt incapable of empathy. That's the only speed you people seem to run on.
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>>29099438
>gets told
>resolts to calling me a baby

You normies are hillarious.

>>29099439
Oh so you're just trolling. Should have figured.

>>29099461
I don't know, is it?

>>29099479
Thanks to not being born a tall attractive Chad I will have worse life and will always be treated worse. I will have to work much harder for pretty much everything. That's justice for you?
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>>29099505
>waah someone's invading my safe space!
Swimming in dem delicious tears desu

>>29099533
>I don't know, is it?
It is.
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>>29098384
I mean it can be very life ruining so
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>>29099497
Yeah because tall guys don't have to do this. It's not fucking fair.
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>>29099486
I've never talked to another guy and even thought about his height.
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>work out
>go to college and work to pay for it
>climbed out of homelessness
>from abusive family
>be rn
>save money and get accepted into medical school
>have schizophrenic breakdown leading to a month long stay in a loony bin
>no work
>no money
>schizo
>about to be evicted
>eat a single bowl of ramen a day and running out fast of only food
>no callbacks for any job
>phone shut off since 2 days ago so will never have a callback
>no gf ever
fuck you stupid normie how is that not trying? Wanna tell starving African kids to "just try harder bro works for me"? Why are normies such awful people?
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>>29099393
Very situational, artificial interactions that don't help at all for talking to people in an everyday setting? Try talking to a friend like you're at a fucking job interview. Tell me how that goes.
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>>29099541
Whatever you say. For every ugly guy with a girlfriend you post you will have so many more who have nothing. You will have many more guys who work hard, have jobs, don't look bad but have nothing. But obviously in your just-world it will somehow be their fault.
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>>29099493
So? Nobody is perfect. Before you complain, you really should improve what you can.
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>>29098550
>Chads are not born
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>>29099533
Justice doesn't mean what you think it does.

Also those chads work hard too. If you spent half as much time working out as you did telling everyone how much of a victim you are, you could be Mr Unverse.
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>>29099555
>what is subconscious perception?
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>>29099439
This bait is very elaborate
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>>29098584

>dumb as a brick

I've seen multiple threads you've posted and you've finally said something everyone can agree on
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>>29099568
You talk to people like people.
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>>29099569
Nice statistic. Upvoted.

Whoops, wrong quote
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>>29099555
Boom. Confidence, so much more then height will attract females. But most manlets will never get over their self-imposed victim complex. A tumblr-tier level of suffering they have the power to undo but choose not to, all because the idea of work is frightening and it being easier to jack it and blame and six-foot illuminati
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>>29099002
>Height is irrelevant
http://www.businessinsider.com/tall-people-are-richer-and-successful-2015-9

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/05/the-financial-perks-of-being-tall/393518/

http://www.livescience.com/5552-taller-people-earn-money.html
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>>29099620
he is still a rich hipster
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>>29099554
You're right, it's not. But that's okay. Maybe instead of focusing on what you can't do, overpower your "short"comings by pea-cocking with another attribute.
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>>29099608
Literally irrelevant. Nobody cares about your height but you. You sound like a chick.
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>>29099507
I asked you to post a picture, the first step of the climb, and you refused. It looks like you aren't really what you're trying to make me believe.
If that were true then society would have collapsed long ago. But we're here having this discussion aren't we?
Go ahead and keep attacking me though, I'm sure that'll make your arguments become truth.
>>29099533
>I'm trolling because I'm not omniscient.
Alright.
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>>29099568
Actually, the people that do well at job interviews are the ones that talk to them like they're friends.
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>>29099634
Social interaction is instinctive. You can't teach charm, or humor, or charisma. At best you'd get an autist to act as though he were reading a script. That's not normal social interaction no matter how much you deny it.

Why does this make you normies so uncomfortable? Does it make you angry that the things you thought you worked for were simply handed to you at birth? Does it scare you that we aren't in control of our lives? Does it make you sad that good people can fail and fail and fail and never see success in life through no fault of their own?
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>>29099649
None of those say "short guys can never get girlfriends and should spend all day whining on the Internet"
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>>29099567
Oh great, it's the "I-I tried, I swear!" meme again.
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>>29099594
So is being treated poorly for things out of my control just?

Also the second sentence is just an assumption.

>>29099652
That's pathetic as fuck.
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>>29099753
Except you literally can teach people to socialize. We do it with children all the time.
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>>29098777
Goron scum!!! Release Princess Zelda immediately!!!
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>>29099753
I was a social retard as a kid and a young adult. I was a virgin until 26. Did I whine on a Korean handpainting board all day? No, I did something about it. I practiced. These days I'm known as quite a good presenter and outgoing personality.

You're a fucking idiot if you think things like this can't be learned.
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>>29099756
The chances of meeting a woman who is part of the 3% of women who doesn't care about height are so low that they are basically nonexistent.
You're essentially berating people because they don't want to participate in a low-odds lottery.
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>>29099753
Sure, for a while. Shockingly practice makes perfect. But sure, keep telling the normies that not being able to go from turbo-autust to thaddius thunderphallus overnight makes them wrong
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>>29099753
You're not a good person if you're always trying to make excuses for why you're such a victim.
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>>29099765
>So is being treated poorly for things out of my control
How are you being treated poorly, and what are the things out of your control? You clearly are an angry bitter sperglord, and that reflects in real life too. That's why no one wants to be your friend, because you're actively hating everyone around you. Nobody wants to be friends with someone like that.
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>>29099765
It's a safe assumption.
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>>29099797
>3% of women who doesn't care about height
Source. Your angry bitter autistic ass doesn't count.
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>I won't try because it's hopeless and not fair that Chad gets everything
>WAAAAAAAAAH WHY DOES CHAD GET EVERYTHING AND I GET NOTHING??!?!!
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>>29099797
You think your chances of meeting 1 in 33 women is low??? You can go to a bar and meet 33 women in a night.
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>>29099669
Why are you posting those stupid anime pictures. Is that supposed to suggest you're female? Fuck off you fat neckbeard.
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>>29099848
Theres no guarantee that any of those women don't care about height.
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there legit no reason to do ne thing. why would u lol. just play game andn watch movies and read boos and do w/e u want until soneone forces you to do something else. all we do is deny death is comig and it is so just enjoy yourself. work isgay and literally doesnt make ne sense in an envirobment where u can have sustenance and comfort w/o it
peace
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>>29099118
Makeup transforms ugly hag into a qtp2t
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>>29099856
There is a guarantee that all of them care about you being an insecure whining bitter manchild.
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>>29099808
Women don't throw themselves at his short mumbling stanmering ass so they are actively attacking him.
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But I have been improving. Last Summer my hot girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me. I was in ruins. I had a shitty job, was 70lbs overweight, and just was not happy. I literally just gave up on life. But I steadily started improving myself. I started slow, usually something small is all it takes for a man to start wanting to self improve. I went out an bought cologne for the first time in my life and started watching youtube channels on what cologne men should wear. I started caring about how I smelled, From starting to wear cologne I decided to go on a diet. I than strarted exercising, went out more, and tried to reconnect more with old guy friends. So fast forward 9 months later. I'm down 40lbs. I still have a shitty job , but I've been to more interviews this year than I have ever combined and I've been handing my resume in to bunch of places. I make it a point to meet up with friends atleast once a week. I go outside and keep busy, even if I'm just by myself and walking a park or just going for a drive around town. I went and spent 500 dollars on a new wardrobe for myself, tighter fitting clothes that just make me feel better about myself. My cologne collections is growing. I started brushing my teeth again and washing my face every night with acne wash. So right now I feel more human than I've had in a long long time.

Sure I still have some ways to go, I need to get a good job and maybe a girlfriend in the future , hopefully hotter than my ex but might be hard to do.
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>>29099826
http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating/why-do-women-all-seem-to-want-taller-men/#.V1W4S59OnqA
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>>29099851
Savage, friend. Anymore meaningless comments, you'd like to add or was that your entire arsenal?
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>>29099856
So? Find one who doesn't. I literally don't see your problem here. 1 in 33 isn't even that bad. There are 33 women everywhere.
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>>29099828
/r9k/ the post. You have summed up the hive-mind of this board in less then 50 words
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>>29099872
K well if they wouldn't date a short guy to begin with then they wouldn't date me regardless so I don't know why you even brought that up.
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>>29099765
>That's pathetic as fuck.
How? Everybody has pros and cons. Believe it or not but even 6'5" buff chads aren't perfect. Everybody has shortcomings, but just like everything else humans were shit at, we just worked around it to get things done.
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>>29099764
>it's another "normies are incapable of empathy and try to reason away suffering with pure victim blaming" episode
My neighbors 5 year old daughter has cancer but I am sure that's just because she isn't trying hard enough, right?
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I am literally deformed, please explain to me how taking showers regularly and going to the gym (both of which I do btw) is meant to fix this? I take steps to improve myself but it's useless because of one thing which fucked me over from birth
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>>29099893
>Find one who doesn't.
They don't exist.
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>>29099184
Yes, anime poster pawn, it's very entertaining.
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>>29099808
I'm not gonna talk about my experiences, because anecdotes don't matter. But it's proven how ugly people get treated worse for many things.

Also why do you think I turned bitter and angry? Because I Was treated like shit for things out of my control.

>>29099822
I tried. And I failed. I'm tired of working hard for what Chad gets easily.
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>>29099913
But the 6'5" Chad has much easier time accomplishing things due to his height and looks.
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>>29099919
There's a huge difference between cancer and what you babies do.

You're not a victim. You're just obsessed with comparing yourself to other people. The only person victimizing you is you. It's gross that you consider it comparable to cancer.
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>>29099884
This is bullshit and you know it. If you were a real robot, you wouldn't be able to improve. You're just a Chad like the rest of them.
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>>29099913
>chads aren't perfect

Careful there anon, that's getting dangerous. We all know chads enjoy the protection and blessing of Almighty Christ the Lord Saviour
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>>29099920
Nobody said it could fix that. But what's the harm in being the best you can be?
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>>29099669
I already described my flaws to you in vivid detail. I am not going to post a picture of myself on here. If you had any advice to give, you would have given it already. Instead, all you've given me is banal platitudes and snobbish tidbits of condescension. I'll say this again: there are things that cannot be fixed, and there are things that cannot be worked around. That's just a fact, no matter how much you try to shy away from it or insult me. That is a fact. You keep blaming people for factors out of their control, unfixable factors that doom them to failure in certain areas of life, and just keep blindly insisting that they've made the choice to fail. Who chooses to fail? Who chooses to be mentally-ill? Who chooses to be miserable? Do you think a single person throughout the entirety of human history would have chosen misery over happiness if given the choice? They wouldn't.

Can't wait to see the dismissive comment you make in response to this as you staunchly ignore everything I've written and simply keep fellating yourself. You are a close-minded person incapable of imagining what it would be like in shoes other than your own. You lack empathy.
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>>29099921
The guy said 3% don't. Sounds like there are millions of them out there.
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I lost one of my eyeballs in an accident when I as 14 and now I look like a cave troll, please tell me how I'm just not trying hard enough
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>>29099941
No, chads have a much easier times being accepted/approved into things. Their looks may even make the bar lowered so they won't fail, but in the long run if they're shit at something they're going to get dropped, especially if they ever start slipping with their looks.
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>>29099929
Chad works for it too. Difference is he doesn't complain online about it.
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>>29099987
Well for one that's just a random stat with no source, second its entirely possible that none of those millions of women live even in the same nation as me.
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>>29099966
It's a meaningless sink of time that benefits no one. A polished piece of shit is still a shit, it's just that some guy wasted his time trying to make it look nice. Every second I'm in the gym or reading I would rather be at home, but I carried on anyway. Look where it's got me now, absolutely nowhere because of factors that people claim I chose to be born with
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>>29100015
It's just more excuses with you.


At this point it's obvious you're single by choice
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>>29099999
Nice quints.

Well me? If I work hard I will still fail because no one will lower the bar for me.

>>29100005
Chad has to work much less. And if he works, he gets better results.
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>>29100031
I've asked out plenty of women, got rejected every time.
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>>29100023
Oh looking better, feeling better, and being healthier are now bad things?
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>>29098550
>Chads are not born, neither are robots. They are the product of life decisions.

Partially correct.
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>>29100034
So? Why are you obsessed with chad?
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>>29100050
Different guy but if you're alone and have no one to show those things to then yes they are very pointless.
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>>29099947
So the mentally-ill are babies, now? Someone who was abused as a child and has never gotten over it is a baby? Someone who is suffering through no fault of their own is a baby? Someone who can't leave their house out of paralyzing fear is a baby? Someone who wants to die because of their shit , lonely life is a baby?

It's astounding--absolutely astounding--how far you normies are willing to go to avoid emphasizing with people like us.
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>>29100040
So ask out more. Getting rejected isn't a big deal
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>>29100066
Because I am getting compared every day. To a Chad. And obviously I am faling, I am getting humiliated by being inadequate in things I can't do anything about.
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>>29097764
>Anyone I don't like and is in a lower position than me is a bad person who never put in any effort, unlike me, a good person!

Normalfags will never let go of this strawman.
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>>29100034
That's why you gotta work so hard that you actually raise the bar anon. You gotta be so good at what you're doing that you make chad look like an incompetent retard.

Here's a tip, the main reason chads are always in the spotlight is because they always force themselves in. I don't doubt that you could get things done, and I don't doubt that you're really good at what you do. What your problem is, is that you don't think what you can do is a big deal. You think anyone can do it, and you think you don't deserve praise for it. Even if the previous statements are true, it doesn't matter. Just try to force yourself into the light, even if you think you're not very impressive. At the least people will see this as ambition and gives you a much greater shot to really show your stuff.
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>>29100050
I don't feel better. If anything it makes me more tired and irritable, maybe it's muh test from lifting

I'll give you the looks part but no one ever looks past my deformity anyway so it's meaningless
>inb4 ur supposed to lift for urself brah
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>>29100082
You're only suffering because you choose to victimize yourself. You're no different than a tumblr feminist. Look how gross your hyperbole is.
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>>29100091
I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone, asking out every girl in the city limits isn't really am option, after a while they start getting together and talking and making fun of desperate guys.
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>>29100093
Nobody is comparing you to them. You have a weird obsession, not society.
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Show me, one person, ONE PERSON, that made it through sheer hard work and without any luck.
See, you can't.
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>>29100126
Everything is an excuse with you. You ARE a desperate guy.
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>>29100155
Steve Jobs worked pretty damn hard to fool people into actually thinking he could really do anything.
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>>29097764
>still no gf despite never having actually approached a woman in my life and assuming they all hate me
what. the. fuck.
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>>29100108
>You gotta be so good at what you're doing that you make chad look like an incompetent retard.
That's a pipedream. Thanks to halo effect whatever he does he will be considered competent and I will be considered the amateur.

>What your problem is, is that you don't think what you can do is a big deal. You think anyone can do it, and you think you don't deserve praise for it.
I don't. That's the point. I'm not fishing for compliments here. It's the truth.

>Just try to force yourself into the light, even if you think you're not very impressive. At the least people will see this as ambition and gives you a much greater shot to really show your stuff.
That's being humiliated. I will NOT be humiliated.
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>>29100165
See, you don't have any actual advice, if you were in my situation you wouldn't know what to do either.
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>>29100155
Elon Musk
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>>29100149
Life is a competition. People are mentally being judged every day. You can ignore it if you want, but it's the truth. That's why some men never get a partner. Because women and people in general are judgemental.
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>>29100034
And compared to super chad, regular chad is in your position. And compared to almost anyone from South America, you're in Chads position.

Yep, you didn't get born at the top of the totem pole, just like almost everyone else. But you aren't at the bottom, so you can do what everyone else does and accept that tons of people were born into a better position then you and tons are born into much worse situations and make the best of it, or you can suffer. Just note your position isn't some unfair one, everyone deals with it, your just a bigger baby about it.
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>>29098550
And what caused them to make those life decisions? You need to look one step further.
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>>29100187
I'd fix being a manbaby then talk to girls not like a total creep.
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>>29099977
Wow, you're stupid lol
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>>29099949
watever man
believe what you want to believe
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>>29100207
No, robots just have a tendency to be judgemental people so they assume everyone is. Most people see you on the streets and don't think twice. Get over yourself
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Oh shit normies getting btfo all over this thread
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>>29099977
You're an awful writer. Post a pic already
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>>29100218
I don't do that but thanks for the shit """""""advice"""""""" there faggot
You don't know shit about anything beyond your nice little self-contained bubble
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>>29100209
YOU FUCKING RETARD.

People in South America don't matter because I don't live near them.

Also Chad compared to super Chad is like comparing top 20% to top 5%. But I'm like bottom 5%.

>accept that tons of people were born into a better position
I'm not a cuck with no pride to accept this.

> or you can suffer
Accepting this is suffering. Even worse than not being a part of society, which is my ultimate goal.

Go on, call me a baby, but at least I'm not accepting injustice.
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>>29100269

Sorry that my advice didn't take into account your obsession with self victimization.
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>>29100274
Oh so I get how it is. People count when they lower how you value yourself, but people don't count when you can raise how you value yourself.
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>>29100122
That's not true and you know it. I'm suffering because I'm mentally-ill. Diagnosed, on medication, in therapy, and still suffering. I'm suffering because I'm ugly. I was born ugly. I'm suffering because I had an abusive childhood. I didn't choose my parents. Who would choose misery over happiness? You never answered the question.

Face it, normie you're wrong. People suffer through no fault of their own.
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>>29099047

The way he's supposed to say that to you is, "I realize being shorter definitely effects the women you can pick from, but it doesn't totally eliminate you from the game by any means. You have to start the race from two steps behind someone who is 6 feet, so you'll have to work a little bit harder, but it isn't impossible."
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>>29099567
Normans like to this they are giving good advice to make themselves feel better, but in reality its just empty words with no real solution being offered.
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>>29100242
I don't know. When passing a woman on the street, they often make disgusted/scared faces or even cross the street.

Groups of Chads laugh at me openly.
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>>29100280
I'm not self-victimizing just saying that girls don't like short guys so trying is just a waste of time that could spent on more enjoyable things
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>>29100183
>I don't. That's the point. I'm not fishing for compliments here. It's the truth.
>That's being humiliated. I will NOT be humiliated.

See, it's that shit right there that's really pulling you down. Sometimes you gotta risk humiliating yourself a little before you can start impressing people. You gotta show them that you're at least willing to expose yourself and not sit in the back doing what most would assume is nothing. Everyone will believe you're an amateur unless you show them you're not, and even if you are an amateur, if you flaunt it the right way people will see potential, and potential being seen opens doors.
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>>29100274
What injustice??? You are victimizing yourself. Literally nobody is wronging you.
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>>29100297
No people count if they live in the same country. Not if they are god knows how far away.
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>>29100209
What the hell does it matter in South America? You're saying anon should go to SA so that he'll have women all over him? Isn't that expensive, not to mention he'd have to quit his job and stuff
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>>29100298
>I'm suffering because I didn't choose my parents

Nobody did! We just don't choose to victimize ourselves over it
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>>29100307
Normans like to think*

>>29100312
>Groups of Chads laugh at me openly.
That happened to me the other day, a group of random chads in a car drove past and shouted something that I couldn't quite make out. I felt like shit for the rest of the day, here I am walking outside for the first time in months and already the world is trying to run me into the ground.
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>>29100312
No, they're living their own life and you're assuming it's all about you.
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>>29100316
>Sometimes you gotta risk humiliating yourself a little before you can start impressing people
Why should I? Chad doesn't have to. Thanks to his good looks, people will not humiliate him.

Potential only happens if you are a Chad.

>>29100325
Ugly people get wronged often. It's called halo effect.
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>>29100316
Actual Chad here. No one, NO ONE respects betas who humiliate themselves. You are giving him horrible advice.
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>life can't possibly be unfair because that would mean what i have isn't all thanks to my own achievements and hard work
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>>29100314
If you give up you have no right to complain because you are choosing your life.
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Anime is fine but I wish death on all avatarfags
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>>29100353
I know. Shit sucks. If you are inferior it's better to be nothing than be a part of society.

>>29100363
I'm talking about concrete fucking things. Not some abstract shit that you are mentioning. I think I can fucking tell when someone looks up at me, makes a disgusted face and crosses the fucking street. Don't you fucking think? I AM REALLY FUCKING ANGRY NOW.
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>>29100383
What you're saying is a fallacy, you're saying to find a woman who doesn't care about height, but all women are about height.
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>>29100330
Seems arbitrary
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>>29100398
*All women care about
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>>29100395
You need to realize the world doesn't revolve around you. Literally nobody cares what anyone else does outside.
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>>29100342
Certain people are lucky enough to have parents which treat them nicely, so they have a good childhood and grow up socially well adjusted. Again, this is completely out of your choice. Would you say the same thing to someone who suffered childhood abuse from their parents? "Stop being a bitch, it's just a little dick in a 5 year old's ass"
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>>29098427
>You can call it whining, but complaining about injustice? That's whining?
yes, that is exactly what whining is. complaining without any desire to work towards solving that injustice.

"wah wah, there are millionaires who have been just handed their fortunes. this world expects me to work to make my millions? fuck that i am gonna be a welfare collecting NEET faggot and shit post on the internet for the rest of my life"

fucking losers
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>>29100405
Arbitrary? If I apply for a job, I'm more than likely going to be compared to people from my country(or few immigrants). If I hit on a girl, I'm going to be compared to other guys who hit on her, which are at most going to be from other european countries. NOT SOUTHERN FUCKING AMERICAN YOU GODDAMN RETARD.
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>>29100398
Except not all women care about height.
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>>29100222
>>29100260
See? Again, the normies resort to insults and attacking my character when they have nothing to say against the actual argument I have presented. Picture? Irrelevant, I've described myself to you in vivid detail and you have consistently shown me you have no real advice to offer. Awful writer? I'm published, pal.

Do you guys think you're good people? Because you've proven today that you're not.
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>>29100378
>Chad has a perfect life
>but he also has a reason to lie to me
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>>29100423
Obviously they care enough to get disgusted by me and also enough to let me know I'm disgusting to them.

>>29100430
>complaining without any desire to work towards solving that injustice.
It can't be solved. It's the nature of human society that certain people get born with bad qualities and therefore have worse lives. Only solution is to not participate in human society.
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>>29100439
No women wants to date a man shorter than her. None.
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>>29100432
I bet you've never hit on a woman in your life.

But she's not comparing you to every other guy in your country either, you weirdo.
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>>29100448
>lie
Chad doesn't lie, he just doesn't understand the point of view of others.
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>>29100423
That's a lie. People analyze and judge you all the time, even when simply passing by you on the sidewalk. It's another one of these empty lies normies tell to make themselves feel better, but it's just not true.
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>>29100274
>I'm not a cuck with no pride to accept this.
you are literally a cuck because you do nothing but sit idly by as you watch other people fuck the things you wish you could be fucking. what an existence to be proud of.
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>>29100460
Except when they do. Seems like you're still just making excuses. It's obvious you choose to be alone
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>>29100465
>But she's not comparing you to every other guy in your country either
She certainly isn't comparing him to some random fucker in South America. How about you explain why you thought that stupid shit was even relevant in the first place?
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>>29100364
>Why should I? Chad doesn't have to.
Yeah, he doesn't have to. Some people also don't have to pay bills, some don't even have to wipe their own ass. You can't limit yourself so much just because you'll have to try harder and risk more, it just ends up with you becoming more cold and bitter.

>>29100368
I said RISK it, I'm not talking about doing stupid shit so people will look at you, I mean taking a chance on something even though you know you could fuck up trying. The main reason lower people are ignored is because people can pretend they don't exist, because they never try to make themselves known.
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>>29100483
No, it's just judgemental robots think everyone is as bitter as them
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>>29100455
>Only solution is to not participate in human society.
no, the only solution is to better your life you miserable insufferable cunt. how is your solution working for you right now? how is it even a solution at all if you are miserable 100% of the time? holy fuck i thought only women were this incapable of critical thought.
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>>29100489
Show me ONE (1) girl with a bf shorter than her.
Celebrities don't count because most celebrities aren't in love, they just use their marriages as a publicity stunt and then get divorced 5 years later.
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>>29100465
I've hit on few dozens. Been turned down every time.

But the guys she compares me to are likely to be local Chad, not Chad from the other side of the world.

>>29100487
Yeah Chad does that. Because he got born a Chad. If I work VERY hard I can maybe fuck the things no one else wants to. FUCK THAT AND FGUYKC YOU!
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>>29100487
But at least he doesn't have to work out because he's short
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>>29100489
His height locks him out of dating the majority of women and any redeeming qualities he might have are being stifled by his low self-esteem resulting from said height. Keep trying to make him out to be the bad guy in this situation, though. He's such an asshole for being born short and feeling insecure about it!

Unempathetic, soulless people. That's normies for you.
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>>29100501
>I mean taking a chance on something even though you know you could fuck up trying.
Still horrible advice, if he's successful it could work out, but if he fucks up he'll be in a far worse position than when he started and probably won't be able to recover any of his social status or dignity.
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>>29100383
Nobody chooses anything, and rights don't exist.
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>>29100497
Explain how a guy in New York has to be worried about being compared to a guy in Texas
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>>29100519
i used to know a 4'11 mexican guy that used to bang the hottest blonde chicks. he acted like a boss and it reflected. he carried good company and didn't take shit from no one, especially women.

it's definitely a disadvantage to be short. pretty much every woman has a universal preference for tall, white, broad shouldered men, but that doesn't mean short guys can't score with babes.
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>blah blah be urself blah blah exercise blah blah being ugly isn't an issue
this boards is fucking murdered
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>>29100501
>You can't limit yourself so much just because you'll have to try harder and risk more, it just ends up with you becoming more cold and bitter.
Working harder and having to risk more for things that many get easily also leaves me bitter. More bitter than when I don't do anything to be honest.

>>29100511
Right now? I'm finishing school(I spent most day studying actually). While at school I also work two jobs(one of which I'm starting full time at the start of july) to get my career started. Am I less miserable? FUCK NO.
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>>29100519
Already making conditions. How sad that you don't even believe your own position
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>>29100550
Celebrities
origami pepper
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>>29100550
I don't think he does
Why should a guy in America take solace in the fact that he's more of a Chad than some subhuman in a third world shithole?
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>>29100523
Oh so you're just lazy and hate work.
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>>29098118
>What is plastic surgery

Fuck off faggot. Tons of gooks do it, why can't you?
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>>29100566
Funny how everyone seems to know some 5 foot nothing Casanova but none of it is actually real, stories like these are a Fucking meme
>>29100577
I don't take anything celebrities do or say at face value because everything is about money and publicity with them.
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>>29100523
>If I work VERY hard I can maybe fuck the things no one else wants to

you guys are so incompetent at human interaction that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. you being ugly or short isn't the main problem, it's your utter lack of charm, confidence, and overall charisma.
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>>29100599
I hate working and getting worse results because of something arbitrary(height, looks, intelligence).
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>>29100608
>everyone has 50k just lying in the bank for plastic surgery
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>>29100599
Did he choose to be lazy? Did Chad choose to be hard-working?
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>>29098935
>Yeah let's just ignore all the statistics about how short men are extremely disadvantaged in dating.
No. What YOU'RE doing is ignoring the real statistics that say it does not make a big difference. Do me a favor, you mouth-breather. Open the following research paper and scroll down to page 10.
On this page, you'll see a chart. This chart indicates that short men - 5'4'' - have an average of 10 sexual partners. Whereas tall men - 6'2'' - have an average of 12 sexual partners. The difference from 5'4'' to 6'2'' is staggeringly small. So fuck off with your imagined statistics.
http://evp.sagepub.com/content/13/3/1474704915604563.full.pdf
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>>29100548
You're choosing to be alone and choosing to be a fat baby about it
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>>29100629
Why aren't girls required to have confidence, charm, or charisma? Every one of our female equivalents somehow has a bf even though they're shut ins who watch anime and play Splatoon all day while their bf is out working.
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>>29100630
Sounds like all you like doing is saying "some people have it easier so I shouldn't have to try". That's how women think. You're an embarrassment to men.
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>>29100616
>but none of it is actually real, stories like these are a Fucking meme
i don't care if you believe me, but it's true. he's my buddy Angelo. unfortunately he got one of those babes pregnant and now has twins and is overall pretty miserable in life from what i hear. been a while since i've talked to him.

i have another short friend that's about 5'5" -- at a bar with him and a few other coworkers and we're all pretty drunk; eventually one of our newer coworkers (young, tight blonde) comes over and jumps into his lap and starts making out with him telling him he's so cute etc. etc.; 10 min later they're going to a hotel to fuck while i sit there getting girls telling me i look like wolverine but still going home alone.
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>>29100629
>it's your utter lack of charm, confidence, and overall charisma.
WHICH STEM FROM BEING UGLY AND MENTALLY-ILL, YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>29100653
Yeah. Laziness is a choice.
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>>29100547
Chances are most posters here barely have any real social status, and dignity isn't really worth much when nobody really knows/cares you exist. Even if they fuck up THAT bad, chances are they could just slip back into seclusion.

>>29100572
Try looking at it from a different perspective. You gotta learn to boost yourself up a little. Take pride in doing things the harder way, even if you don't have a choice.
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>>29100707
>unfortunately he got one of those babes pregnant and now has twins
Fucking Mexicans man, how do none of them know how to use a damn condom?
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>>29100708
What illness do you have? A real one or "social anxiety and depression"?
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>>29100672
because omega males give them all the attention and emotional support they need already, no matter how basic, broke, fat, or uneducated the bitch is.

women have the advantage in the dating market because men are thirsty as fuck and always willing to settle for a much lower score than themselves just so they can get a quick fuck. you have 8/10 men one-night-standing 5-6/10 women because they'd rather game those bitches in 5 min for a guaranteed fuck than waste days on a 8/10 chick that doesn't might not even put out.
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>>29100709
And what caused him to choose to be lazy?
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>>29100655
Well I don't have time to read all of it, otherwise this thread would die. The results are surprising, on the other hand

>We would also like to thank ELLE and MSNBC.com for access to the Sex
and Love Survey.

Elle? Isn't that the fucking chick magazine? Sex and love Survey? Oh so it's self-reported? Who would have thought that short men report more sexual partners. Gee.

>>29100682
That's just shaming tactic. You're not shaming me into accepting injustice.
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>>29100711
> Take pride in doing things the harder way, even if you don't have a choice.
What's there to be proud about? I got fucked. I will work hard and get less. That's NOTHING to be proud about.
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>>29100708
except having social mastery and charisma is not mutually exclusive with being short or ugly you raging mouthbreather lmao

PS you're mentally ill because you never made an active effort to fix your bad habits that lead to your mind's decline. i am watching this happen in real time with my best friend's brother. i fixed myself before i got worse.
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