>we're sick and tired of being exploited and abused by a wealthy elite without regard for the common people
>I know how we'll fix the problem
>we'll elect this wealthy elite!
Can someone please explain the thought process here.
>>29092589
He's a successful businessman, promises to get stuff done, and isn't responsible for deaths in Benghazi.
What's not to like?
>he suggests ideas that could possibly help the common people, unless he's memeing
>OP disregards this
tha avarage drone believes he just needs a chance to become like trump
they cannot fathom the idea that not everyone can make it and their inflated ego makes them believe it will be them who actually does
>>29092589
Common people are common people for a reason
>>29092589
>Can someone please explain the thought process here
He has pledged to halt illegal immigration and rework ultra-unfair, job-destroying trade deals. Those things alone would have huge benefits for the common people. Why not read his policies before making a reddit-tier thread like this you faggot? Are you a Hillary / correct the record shill or what?
Plicies:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
>>29092589
People are tired of the same cucks and crooks so they see hope in a guy that makes stupid promises appealing to the lowest common denominator but that speaks as if he knows what he's doing. It's not uncommon trough hsitory actually, even his cultists are not something new but boy are they easy to trigger.
>>29092589
>He's a successful businessman,
"Small loan of a million dollars"
>promises to get stuff done,
THEY ALL DO!
>What's not to like?
He's pretty much a standard politician: An old man with a rich father who talks a lot.
>>29092589
Two things to keep in mind.
1: Trump makes promises that undermine the status quo of the Obama administration. His personal history has no bearing on that.
2: Trump is real estate. The "elite" that most people take issue with is commodities and finance. E.G. Oil and Wall Street.
>>29092798
>stupid promises
>oy vey america would collapse without an underclass of illegal immigrants doing all the manual labor for slave wages
>we have to send all our jobs overseas and allow other countries to access our markets effortlessly, there's just no way to stop it
>we must import hundreds of thousands of "Syrain refugees" with no IDs or way to vet their past, there is simply no choice
>Talk to Russia and not simply bomb Syria and start a war with Iran? OY VEY that's crazy talk! we MUST start WW3 over some shithole middle east country
>>29092589
>wealthy
It's always class with you commies, isn't it. People aren't tired of wealthy leople, their tired of political corruption and policies that benefit Globalists and not Americans.
What is the job of a government? It's not to take care of it's citizens financially and give them food, shelter, water, medical care, etc etc. That was never the role of government. The sole role of the government was to govern, provide security to the people and settle disputed. That's literally it. You socialists and communists are making the government responsible for shit it should never have it's hands in.
Nope I'm just sick of all the brown people.
trump is only seizing control of the american military to save germany
daddy will turn mecca to glass desu senpai
>>29092841
Tiny hands
>>29092844
>What is the job of a government? It's not to take care of it's citizens financially and give them food, shelter, water, medical care, etc etc. That was never the role of government. The sole role of the government was to govern, provide security to the people and settle disputed
Do you have any evidence to back this statement up or did you just pull it out of your ass?
>>29092879
Jews are often lecherous in nature, applying sexual afflictions to almost every situation, it is if they have not matured beyond grade school yet posses evil wit by selling their soul
>>29092844
Who do you think benefits from globalism?
It's the wealthy.
>>29092927
You're right anon, yet Trump willingly married his daughter to a jew and had his grandson circumcised.
>>29092924
Show me where in the constitution it says the government must provide for it's citizens.
That's like saying the police are supposed to help you. Their job is to enforce the law, not to be your caretaker and be a social worker.
>>29092589
except the rest of the wealthy elite hate donald trump and trump hates them back
>>29092941
>the wealthy
No, not all wealthy people. Nice generalization though. The only people that support globalization are those that don't care if America falls, they'll just leave to a better country.
You assume you live in a democracy/republic. This is your first mistake.
>>29092812
> Turning a million dollars into billions is easy
Here is why I am voting for him.
>Will deport the illegals and save tens of billions of dollars for the government yearly.
>Will build a wall that costs less than the yearly amount of aid we give to Mexico to prevent more illegals from coming in.
>Wants a constitutional amendment to prevent anchor babies requiring at least one parent to be a us citizen for the child to received us citizenship.
>Executive order to stop companies from abusing h1b visas like disney did with their engineers.
>Says he will close military bases in other countries unless those countries pay for the bases to be there and help the military make a profit for being there.
>Wants to redo all the trade deals the US is in and completely throwout NAFTA.
>Swears he will kill TPP.
>Repeal Obamacare and replace it by allowing health insurances to cross state lines and allow HCAs.
>Make taxes more simplified and lower taxes for lower and middle class while raising them for upper class.
>Single people making less than 25k a year or less will pay no federal tax.
>Couples making combined 50k or less will pay no federal income tax.
>Lower corporate tax so corporations stop moving overseas to countries with lower tax rates.
>Give businesses tax breaks for creating permanent high paying jobs.
>Work with Russia instead of fighting them like Hillary who desperately wants world war 3 to support her neocon buddies.
>Actively try to kill off political correctness instead of actively encouraging it like Hillary.
>Wants to close overseas bases and have soldiers patrol the border to prevent illegals from coming in.
>>29092589
The elite isn't inherently bad desu
It's just that most if them are jews who have incredible hatred for the White working class.
>>29092995
>>29092941
Globalism is inevitable, no matter who supports it. Can't put that genie back into its bottle now.
>>29092890
He can't gain anything from the debate
Bernie wont get the Bingham and will then fade away into obscurity.
Also you posted an unironic BBT image...
Btr for u
>>29093006
You forgot he promised he was going to audit the Federal Reserve. He said so many times.
>we hate normie culture
>better vote for one of the establishment approved candidates over the somewhat independent guy who can stir things up
Explain this to me.
>>29093011
Yes it is. It doesn't matter if the elite is Jewish or white or whatever. Working class people are just interchangeable units to be squeezed for profits.
>>29093018
>is inevitable
That's commie speak, only communists believe history is heading in a inevitable direction. People that use the "wrong side of history" argument are using a literal commie talking point.
>>29093018
Are you attempting to quote >>29092841
>>we have to send all our jobs overseas and allow other countries to access our markets effortlessly, there's just no way to stop it
Could you BE any more Jewish-influenced?
>>29093042
You know you don't have to vote right?
The only thing that keeps me from supporting Trump is his stance on climate change.
It's a literal existential threat to the human species.
>>29093042
>waaa waaaa why do people disagree with me
Trump is a chad. Also /r9k/ is mostly apolitical except for his shill army.
>>29093006
Hmm, I'm actually starting to like Trump.
As long as it's not Shillary that evil bitch, I'm happy.
>>29092589
Just like you wouldn't require your doctor to have had cancer to cure your cancer, why would you require a politician to a commoner to fix the commoners problems?
Trump did more with his company for the middle class by employing thousands of people than any politician coming from the middle class will.
>>29092841
That... might actually be the post which changed my views on Trump...
>>29093058
Why would you not vote when the decision will most likely affect your life? I may not like Trump but I'd rather have him over Hillary.
>>29093071
What could he possibly do to prevent it when the entire rest of the world will pollute like crazy? Such a fucking retarded reason to not support.
You either vote trump or you vote for your quality of life to go down.
>>29092589
Who the fuck is "we"?
>>29093048
>>29093055
You both sound like Catholics trying to un-invent the printing press.
Have fun with that.
>>29093107
There's no reason to make the situation even a little worse.
You're right though, we're probably fucked anyway, so I might as well vote for Trump.
Not like Hillary, neo-liberal corporate puppet that she is, will do any more for the environment.
RIP earth.
>>29093002
Just a few extra zeros.
>>29093123
And you sound like a communist trying to demoralize people by saying that our society is heading in a determined direction and you can't stop it. Of course we can stop it and it is impossible to know which way history will go.
>>29093156
Why would anyone be opposed to the rulership of the working class?
We're the vast majority of society after all.
>>29092844
>i am daddies rich little boy you commies stay poor haha
die in cancer fag
>>29093184
>>29093170
>commies are for the working class
Top kek
Commies are all about control, they don't give a fuck about social justice and the plight of the poor they only use those causes to garner more power and control. The only people that care about the poor are the poor themselves and so they should have their own power and vote, not have some third party commie dictate to them and speak for them.
>>29093223
Yeah all those Communist revolutionaries in the past who risked jail sentences, fines, and death were just doing it in the hopes they'd have some cushy party job down the line.
I wouldn't really call myself a Communist in the traditional sense, because Marxism has been shown time and time again to perform poorly in practice, but I am a working class person so I do care about my own class. Because of that, I want them to have self determination and not be ruled over by rich parasites.
>>29093246
They were good goyim, the very organizations they worked for were the ones that killed them, don't be a good goy.
>>29092589
The same retardation that elected Hitler
Basically, hero worship and desire to have a charismatic leader, rather than any particular analysis of what might be good. It's the tribal brain in action.
>>29093265
You don't know shit about history if you don't know why hitler was appealing, and no, he didn't run on gassing Jews.
>>29092844
good dog
mutebarks
I like hot dank spicy dangerous memes family
>>29093281
>the wealthy are your enemy always
Ah yes, pitting two groups of Americans against each other to cause hatred and to destabilize society. Good good goy
>>29092993
this is false. sheldon adelson, a billionaire, gave trump a hundred million dollars for his campaign. you think theyre just gonna forget about that money? even a mega rich politician can be bought and sold in this country. nothings going to change, for the better anyway. the best we can possibly hope for is to kill some of the wealthy as theyre killing us.
>>29093156
Calling something propaganda does not make it so. Nor does it somehow legitimize your own. There were real, technological advances that have made globalism possible. You can whinge your /pol/ack ass off all you want about how the trends they enable are "Communist", but in the end the billions-strong mass of humanity is going to overrule you forcibly.
As I said, you are asking people to act in a manner which does not effectively allow them to cope with current reality. Only the very foolish will obey.
>>29093303
>work harder Bob
>no Bob healthcare is of commie
>holidays is of commie
>your wife staying home with your baby is commie aswell
>dont mind be snipping my cocktail on the bahamas
>its just the law of society you know
>work harder and youll make it
kys
>>29092792
Hahaha
>America pushes for globalisation
>America loses jobes do to globalisation
Get fucked or adapt
>>29092640
>He's a successful businessman
He owns a lot of property. You want to elect an owner and not a leader because he is good at tricking uneducated plebs.
His business tricks will not work internationally, friend. Prepare to be owned, literally.
>promises to get stuff done
I promise that he sucks ass. My promise counters his.
Let us instead look at his history: He has spent none of his billions to help the US, he has spent none of his billions to support public ("American") education. He has only stacked his wealth.
That is what is going to happen. Not his promises.
>and isn't responsible for deaths in Benghazi
He supported Hillary during those times.
He has supported anyone to become richer.
Literally a sellout who has been responsible for nothing because he is nothing.
>What's not to like?
kek
>>29093265
Hillary is Hitler.
>On ABC this weekend she literally said she wants to repeal the second amendment. Before that she wants a national gun registry.
>Hitler created a gun registry and used that to disarm the public.
>One of Hillary's main campaign issues is she wants all child care facilities run federally.
>Hitler did the same thing his "mother and child" program which turned into Hitler Youth.
>Hillary wants all police to become federal employees so they can be "properly trained"
>Hitler did the same thing with German police.
>>29093327
>it's not propaganda
That's funny because Marx and communists were the creators of the "wrong side of history" and "history is heading in an inevitable direction" arguments. Marx said if you were against communism, you were unscientific and against progress. Stop falling for the same, tired shit.
>>29093128
im glad the world is ending and i really hope the human race dies off with it. id make it happen right now if i could.
>>29093358
Jews push for globalization. Everywhere in the world is far worse off from it. Laugh all you want, but are suffering from it too.
>>29093336
You don't need a government to have any of those things.
>>29093006
Hahaha, you are a fuckin dumbass. I bet you havent even registered yet.
>>29093365
>federal police
No way in hell because each state has their own laws.
>>29093303
being this stupid
bloxx
>>29093419
>wealthy are always evil and will work against you
Being this bloxxing stupid desu sempai smdh @ u
>>29092589
tired of getting exploited
so we vote in a guy who is jaded with business and how shitty it is in america
hes old and nearing the end of his life so he dont give a fuck
his kids are already set for life
now he wants to fuck the system in the ass out of principle for his name to live on in more than just being a businessman sort of way
i can understand it
similar to putting a guy who hates the military and all its faggot red tape bullshit in charge of fixing it
great things would happen
I kind of like Trump, but when he talks about working with Russia instead of just invading both Iran and Syria and kicking off world war three I start getting worried. I think it's best to dump Dangerous Drumpf and go all in for Hillary; play it safe, methinks.
>>29093389
Moron. What is G8?
America has allways been the main leader for globalisation.
IMF has allways been in American hands.
>>29092924
Plato's The Republic
>>29092589
>he thinks the "wealthy elite" are real estate tycoons and reality show hosts
>>29093482
America has been compromised by Jews since the federal reserve was invented. The true American patriot Andrew Jackson tried to warn us but his heroic warnings went unheeded.
>>29092957
He sold his daughter off for the Jew vote, she won't be carrying on the Trump name so it's no loss.
>trump claims to be against illegal imigrants
>has had hundreds of illegal imigrants working for him for minimum wage
Explain this please. Also there's a study that came out saying that imigrants on a whole are harder workers. Many business men have said that imigrants are crucial for the development of the economy
>>29092640
>Successful businessman
Didn't like 5 of his companies go bankrupt? And he had that scam university
>hurr durr the wealthy are the problem!
The wealthy have ALWAYS been the "problem" fucking dipshits. This doesn't just go back to Rome, it goes all the way back to fucking Babylon.
The true parasites of our time are the globalists, with globalism being one of the worst thought experiments ever performed upon Western civilization. They KNOW what course they've set for their own ship, and their ideology is to watch it sink from afar.
>>29093529
>>29093541
That last sentence discredits you as an honest person asking questions. Take your Shill for the Hill to reddit.
>>29093494
>He think's they're not
Are you retarded?
>>29093485
>Dead guy whose philosophy has failed throughout western history.
kek
>>29093499
The Jews were relentless in their control over America. JFK was the last one who attempted to stand up against him, and look where he ended up.
>>29093541
>Didn't like 5 of his companies go bankrupt?
I wouldn't expect such low levels of critical though from an anon on 4chan. 5 companies of how many?
>>29093558
>my dead philosopher is better than your dead philosopher because he died later
Keking at this cucking kek
>>29093558
just like Karl Marx
and while Plato was also probably a permaNEET at least he wasn't a self-righteous permaNEET
>>29093551
i'm not even american you dipshit. Why do you retards always think there's some jew behind every person you disagree with
>>29093543
The Globalist=US of Corporations=USA
>>29093572
>JFK was the last one who attempted to stand up against him, and look where he ended up.
Reagan tried to audit the fed. The next day he was shot.
>>29093553
The "wealthy elite" are the people you've never heard and never will hear the names of.
If you think a bunch of miscellaneous real estate tycoons are the ones fucking your life over then you're truly the most blue-pilled nigger ever.
>>29093596
So now they've got non-Americans #Hillshilling
Doing the jobs even Americans won't do I suppose. Shows how Hillary doesn't care about American jobs.
>>29093575
I like to think for myself.
But nice try.
>The fool starts to laugh as he becomes nervous and his defenses falter. He keks as he shudders and makes things up to fit his world image.
>'C-cuck' he hollers into darkness.
>>29093594
Karl Marx was a fool. Socialism today in countries like Sweden resemble little of his world image.
Read above.
>>29093446
shake your head harder and some of the shit might fall out
>>29093575
>philosophy exists in a vacuum so it doesn't matter when a philosopher was born or how much other work he has to draw on
>also everything is always the same in history, so Plato is as relevant as Julia Kristeva to our society
jej
>>29093610
They still contribute towards fucking everything up, even if they're not the SUPER SECRET ILLUMINATI
They still have a huge amount of power and don't understand anything, never a good combination
>>29093376
Once again, you are incessantly babbling about an ideology that's deader than week-old horseshit (and the entire authoritarian wing of Socialism along with it). History has no "right" or "wrong" side unless your are talking about predicting it; something completely detached from all moral or factional (read: national) concerns. As for your assertion that history is non-deterministic, this is an utter fallacy unless one were to disregard such fundamental scientific concepts as Evolution. People adapt to a changing human and natural world: this produces history as we know it. The uncertainty arises from the _how_ (How will these humans adapt? How is the world changing?). Once those are known it is very possible to predict the general flow of history over extremely short timespans, which are unfortunately getting shorter all the while as the very means of access to the information we use to make these predictions also intensifies the social flux that eventually renders them unreliable long-term.
Only very occasionally do you see an anomaly in this, though said anomalies in that case are caused by an individual.
Jews
Jews
Jews
I bet you fuckers think Ameristan is under some foreign control.
Delusinal right wing fucks. Go join a milita then, pussies.
>>29093529
>trump should personally hand-pick every wagecuck involved in his hundreds of projects
>a study can prove that immigrants "work harder"
>>29092589
Well basically we should elect him because he helps those whom already have the means to help themselves but hey what the hell, maybe they need nicer cars
>>29093651
Why would they need to be active?
Trump wants sheep, and what better way to herd them than to tell them that all of their problems will be fixed with a small vote.
>>29093637
>They still have a huge amount of power and don't understand anything, never a good combination
>don't understand anything
You mean they're looking out for their own self-interest a la classic Darwinism?
The wealthy are just common plebs with megatons of money hidden overseas. You hate them cause you ain't them. I think that's also Darwinism right there.
>>29093610
Trump had an opportunity to remain self-funded and not have any influence behind his campaign, and then willingly takes a 100 million donation and may now be heading towards a super-PAC. He's taking money from the -same- people he insulted other candidates for accepting money from, and then goes and acts like Clinton is the sole corrupt candidate here and like he isn't just entirely pandering to berners.
People who willingly choose to aid these donors for cash are as much the problem.
Don't all you little cuckboys reply to me all at once now.
>>29093635
>the value a philosopher has on society is determined by the time period he died in
Kek
>>29093617
>ad hom
I can feel the frustration from here
>>29093615
>non-argument
>philosophers from the ancient world are wrong because they're old
And the funniest thing is that they had debates that were eerily similar to ours today. And we literally use their style of governing because it's best, but I'm sure you commies want to change that rapidly.
>>29093649
>fallacy
>history is predictable
Only retard here is you. You wrote all that shit too. One big pile of shit.
>>29092589
A self-made elite without the connections of the politicial class. Not sponsored by anyone, and none of their vested interest. Not the same, not the same. Now the fact he is a wealthy elite only shows he is smart, hardworking and doesn't give up.
>>29093362
>He owns a lot of property. You want to elect an owner and not a leader because he is good at tricking uneducated plebs.
>His business tricks will not work internationally, friend. Prepare to be owned, literally.
Don't downplay his achievements. Making money isn't as easy as "owning property" or "tricking plebs". It takes effort and risk-taking beyond your scope. Despite failing again and again he kept going, and that is true determination. That is why he is rich and you're not. That is why he is running for president, and you're just a voter.
>Let us instead look at his history: He has spent none of his billions to help the US, he has spent none of his billions to support public ("American") education. He has only stacked his wealth.
And who has? Do you think politicians are massive emphatic philanthropists who donate their spare cash to the budget? Give me a break.
>He supported Hillary during those times.
>He has supported anyone to become richer.
>Literally a sellout who has been responsible for nothing because he is nothing.
A businessman has to be able to get along with everyone. It's not surprising you do not understand that.
Trump is a master of charisma. He is a very fine tuned intelligent man. And unlike the roaches in senate he cares about America, because he has a sense of pride, and an honest appreciation of what is happening. The main reason I am voting for him is his policy against China; he will inspire the West to become more aggressive and show China who is top dog again, and stop them rising to power at the expense of us. If any candidate doesn't do that soon, history can turn very dangerous.
I swear 90% of Trump supporters never actually refute any points, they just instantly dismiss criticism that comes there way
It's a lot more evident on this board since robots tend to be way more fueled by emotion than most people
>>29093613
wow you're dumb. Even if you're being ironic you're dumb for thinking that that /pol/tard level attack wins you the argument. Seriously you people would vote for a chimpanzee if it said the same things trump says
>>29093769
Well, maybe try arguing a real point and instead of speaking like a disinterested third party to the debate, very passive aggressive like a little bitch boy, reply to the person with an actual argument. Someone saying history has a predetermined direction is straight up retarded.
>>29093769
America, both right and left, has pretty much lost its goddamned mind at this point. I'd move somewhere less maladaptive before it's too late.
>>29092589
>mfw amerikeks only choices are a billionaire capitalist, a socialist Jew, or Angela Merkel 2.0
>>29093738
That's not an argument. And nowhere in that post did I use the words "retard".
>>29093817
Laugh it up, your choice will be Islam or the sword soon enough.
>>29093809
>Europe is fucked
>Africa is Africa
>Asia is out of the question
Where the fuck to then, fucking Straya?
>>29093817
Politics in general is just a fucking stupid concept, the hilariousness of it all is just magnified in America because it's such a parody of a country
>>29093656
Trump has a suspiciously high level of imigrants working for him you know. That guy is faker than his hairdo and is playing you all like a fiddle
>>29093817
Either way it's a great time to be Israeli and one of G-d's chosen people.
>>29093821
I don't have to make an argument, saying history is predictable is literally retarded. I don't need to make any other point than calling you retarded.
>>29093840
Politics was never meant for the common pleb, only for educated aristocrats who deservedly so have an influence on affairs.
>>29093782
Which one is your post? You know what, it doesn't matter you should already know how is debunk your little shill posts anyway.
>>29093869
That would be fine if the people in power were actually educated and not just good at making money and contacts
whoever wins
we fucking loose
>>29093843
Once Europe falls to Islam and America is leftist, you Jews are going to have a real bad time. I wouldn't be laughing if I were you.
>>29093799
90% of every trumpers response to someone elses argument is to call them a jew shill mate
>>29093809
It's fucking ridiculous. Putting aside political views, it's amazing how difficult it even is to meet anyone outside the internet that actually knows anything about the race. 95% of the people I meet are not voting, voting for x because "woman/businessman/reddit says he's right", or they know at best just 1-2 policies and solely back a candidate on that.
I think if you actually had some sort of the statistic on it, half the nation doesn't know shit about politics outside their facebook feed and "what i saw on tv", and even fewer genuinely know who or what they're voting for.
>there are millions and millions of hillary supporters who don't know what money in politics is but actually take time, money, and effort to back her campaign
>>29093878
The problem is is that the common pleb should not be aware of how politicians are fucking their lives over, and shouldn't have a say in the matter. Because either way, they will be fucked over, and their opinion won't matter anyways. The issue is based around illusory democracy where everyone THINKS they have a say and is so uptight because of it.
>>29093883
>Thinking that poster is actually jewish
You're right though, the fact Europe + America are getting nigger'd only shows Jews cannot be in a conspiracy behind it, unless they have a secret Marsian base to escape to.
>>29093878
>actually educated
>the people in power have to go through the Jew indoctrination centers like I did in order to truly be "educated" and fit to hold power
>the non-educated should not have any power
How very communist of you my cuck comrade.
>>29093711
>philosophers from the ancient world are wrong because they're old
Oh shit I can't make this any better.
Are you an undercover Bernie supporter; because you are very succesfully making Dumps look really fucking illiterate.
Let me quote something that you can literally read 3 clicks away:
>Dead guy whose philosophy has failed throughout western history.
>Whose philosophy has failed throughout history.
>Has failed.
And what do you get out of this, I ask? :
>philosophers from the ancient world are wrong because they're old
YOU ARE EXPOSED BERNIE.
Literally fits right under what I said here:
>The fool...makes things up to fit his world image.
>>29093765
Don't downplay his achievements.
You're right. And don't you dare downplay the achievements of the Sandy hook school shooters. That shit takes risk taking beyond your scope.
>And who has?
Good question. Why do we elect people who are rich and selfish, and loud, and not people who are proper representatives of the people in a (Underline following:) representative democracy (look up meaning, underline end).
>Trump is a master of charisma.
Good point. That means he is right and a good person.
0% chance that he would use his charisma to get more power and, as you put it, take risks.
Lmao.
>He is a very fine tuned intelligent man
Subjective opinion of yours, but I still have to say no.
>because he has a sense of pride
Supports corrupt system, earns money off of corrupt system, helps nobody but himself --> Pride.
: - ) --> : - =)
>show China who is top dog again
Everybody has Nukes now, so it won't work as it did against Japan. And China has a much more efficient worker ideology than its "opponents" so it will always surpass unless you are willing to live to work (communism).
"Again" means nothing, and is a fine example of Trump tricking the Dumps. There is or was no "again".
>If any candidate doesn't do that soon, history can turn very dangerous.
Too long comment..
>>29092589
Best of a bad situation, it seems. Surely Trump has led to fewer deaths than Hitllary, plus she's a female supremacist and that doesn't bode well for you if you are attached to a penis.
>>29093907
Yeah that's kinda true to be fair
>>29092589
>all Trump supporters are the same
I only support Trump because I don't want to have to stop buying """""assault weapons""""" and despite his previous statements on the matter, he's still by far the least likely candidate of the three to support such legislation in the future.
>>29093843
please do not insult the burgers
they are our friends
>>29093911
>has failed
Marx and communism?
>>29093843
Israel is the greatest country in the world by far tbqh.
>>29092819
>Trump is real estate. The "elite" that most people take issue with is commodities and finance. E.G. Oil and Wall Street.
This is fucking priceless.
>multi-billionaire
>Not a member of the elite
Fuck I'm still laughing.
Every leader elected is in the wealthy elite, the difference is trump is not the the elite secret society.
>>29093934
There I was referring to Plato's philosophy, but yes Communism and Marxism failed because of many different reasons related to human behaviour.
>>29093952
You cannot be this retarded.
Definition of a populist leader:
Someone who gains the seat of power through appealing to a large majority in the country, often the working class/undeducated with anti-elite rhetoric and promises of redistribution of resources etc. "The current regime and its elite have failed us, I will fix this"
Typically, since this leader bases all of his legitimacy on this mass support and his charisma, he will drop in popularity once he is leader and doesn't deliver as promised, this is when they usually start to use violence and the threat of violence to remain in control.
Examples of populistic/personalistic/sultanistic leaders: Pinochet in Chile, Batista in Cuba, Marcos in the Phillippines, and the Duvalier-regime in Haiti.
>>29093879
>>29093817
That's the easiest cop out I've seen. It takes real respect in actually studying politics and making an informed decision in voting.
Now I honestly believe Trump will make America great, if anythin then with his inspirational, macho, assertive attitude that we sorely need if we want to maintain global dominance (which is also important for our safety, because the Chinese are insane people and too much power for them would be dangerous for everyone).
So don't cop out with excuses, fucking go there and vote for Trump.
>>29093961
Top tier Trump supporter argument
>>29093962
>Pinochet
>bad
Commiecuck detected
>>29093952
It's funny to me, the left treats the "elite" like the same boogeyman they make fun of people that say the Jews are behind everything do.
>>29093961
Wow you sure convinced me.
>>29093830
Europe may yet make it. Same with Australia. Depending on your age eventually Asia could be a viable choice, but for decades at a time it would be pretty fucking rough.
I'd say Australia. Mind the gun ban, though. It may or may not be there to stay.
>>29093959
Please tell me where Plato's philosophy was actually implemented so that it could actually fail.
>>29093973
Yeah, it's pretty pathetic. But you shouldn't expect either left or right to have much internal consistency, they mostly go with their feels.
>>29093845
If you don't feel you have to make an argument, our "conversation" (I'm being quite generous applying that term, I feel) is at an end.
I'm a gun owner who clears well over 100k a year, drive a diesel sedan that would likely be affected by further emission regulations, would not and do not know anybody that would be affected by his immigration proposals and have no plans to ever go back to college.
Give me one good reason to vote for anybody but Trump.
>>29093994
This, liberals and conservatives are both retarded and emotional. Classical liberalism is the political ideology for rational individuals.
>>29093911
>You're right. And don't you dare downplay the achievements of the Sandy hook school shooters. That shit takes risk taking beyond your scope.
This is the most pathetic thing I've heard. Somebody who has achieved nothing and who sits on their ass ranting about politicians all day is trying to justify his own failure by trotting on the achievements of a successful businessman. Don't pretend you have some moral high ground that means you aren't there in the 1%. You are just a useless dumbass who cannot cope with his own pettiness.
>Everybody has Nukes now, so it won't work as it did against Japan. And China has a much more efficient worker ideology than its "opponents" so it will always surpass unless you are willing to live to work (communism).
>"Again" means nothing, and is a fine example of Trump tricking the Dumps. There is or was no "again".
I've never implied a war, I am talking about changes to trade policies that means the Chinese cannot develop too quickly without our decision. Your comfortable lifestyle has been created by centuries of Western hegemony, and you cannot even begin to appreciate what the world would look like without those safe hands guiding it. Our grip on the world is slowly fading because we are becoming an ever-weaker nation.
There was never a time when the West was great you say? Yeah, okay. Cool.
>>29094015
>Classical liberalism is the political ideology for rational individuals.
>>29093992
...
Soviet union...
>>29093998
It's not really a debate or conversation, you made a retarded statement and I just laughed at you and called you retarded. I'm sorry if you thought I was actually engaging you. I don't argue with retards because it only makes you look retarded yourself.
>>29093891
It's long past ridiculous, m8. And after I'm through taking care of my mom and dad, I'm packing up and leaving.
Won't be the rat that stayed on the sinking ship.
>>29094032
Stay mad you dumb authoritarian collectivist
>>29092640
He went bankrupt around 8-9 times. He stared a mortgage firm in 2008.
Almost everything he did was off of his dad's back.
>>29094031
You ventured too deep in your disarray, sir. Most of what you said is completely out of the argument, and the rest are you clarifying what you think is right.
Take a deep breath.
No ad hominems necessary. Being a Dump does sound ad hominem like, but it proves my point of supporting Trump is pretty bad. Anyways I apologize.
>There was never a time when the West was great you say? Yeah, okay. Cool.
You Americans should know what Imperialism and "Greatness" results in. It is kind of the foundation of your constitution.
I am not your enemy.
>>29094068
I could just imagine someone typing this in a huff straight out of huffington post thinking he's proving us all wrong with his "facts."
>guy who can't be bought
>says whatever the fuck he wants
>feels whatever the fuck he wants
>leftist hippies get angry because mean orange man says "RAYCISS!!!!1" things
>right wing dinosaur conservatives get angry because "M-MUH VALUES"
>young generation of alt-right people with their own modern version of conservatism praise Trump because they are sick and tired of getting fucked in the ass by letists, dinosaur conservatives, SJWs, P.C. culture, and now there's finally a candidate who isn't a complete puppet to media
I'm loving it. MAGA!
Reminder that back in the day millions of people voted for a man who claimed he would bring all the changes the people where asking for and ended up doing jack shit
>>29094015
That or anarcho-capitalism
The far-left and the far-right are both identical at this point
>>29094098
Obama? Hope and change, he's changing our hopes anon
>>29093971
Many populist leaders, after having gained their seat of power, start changing the rules of the political game and the states' institutions to successfully siphon as much money as they can into the pockets of themselves and their cronies. In doing so they sometimes create better infrastructure and industry etc, especially in countries where these things did not exist beforehand.
These kinds of regimes, a leader and his friends/family using their power to get rich and stay in power, are often referred to as sultanistic regimes.
>>29094082
Everything I've said relates to why Trump is the candidate we need.
>You Americans should know what Imperialism and "Greatness" results in. It is kind of the foundation of your constitution.
There is no alternative. If even every group of friends has their own natural leader, you can imagine how much that scales up the globe. If you are not the world's domineering power you will be subject to someone else's, especially with a mega-globalised economy. That is why I want the entire scope of Western civilisation to remain on top.
>gets a student loan of 50k buckaroos and goes to college
>turns it into liberal arts/womyn's studies degree
>comes out poorer and even more stupid
>makes fun of Trump for turning 1 million dollar loan into mega empire worth of hundreds of millions
>>29093142
>just an extra 999 million
>not much at all
>totally not a 9980% return on investment
>nothing important to see here
>>29093093
>starts thread whining about Trump
>mostly apolitical
Pick one and only one.
>>29094098
Obama did the best he could. He reformed healthcare for one and that is more than some presidents have managed.
>tfw i'm actually a paid goverment shill
>tfw nobody believes /pol/ when they say i exist
trumpers be mad
>>29094123
Only way West will stay on top is through force. All the manufacturing is done in Asia and as long as that is the case, the East will continue to siphon money and wealth from the West in exchange for low quality goods until the West is poor and starts to be a better place to manufacture goods because they are poor.
You have to stop that cycle from happening by conquering Asia and putting the women in sex dungeons and the men in the rice chambers.
>>29094147
He had good intentions but the american sistem is at the point where it's too fucked to be fixed
>>29094168
Casual racism like this is what's ruining 4chan
>>29094129
A "small" one million dollar loan. From his own father. Meaning if he fucked up he probably woudn't have to pay any of it back. Plus his family would have had all the proper conections with all the right people to start the empire he has now. It's hardly like he came from the guter
>>29094041
Imma just post memes now. Same diff talkin' with you.
All the mainstream candidates suck, vote for the based libertarian Gary Johnson and support free minds and free markets.
>>29094252
Your memes make more sense than your "argument"
>>29094123
>There is no alternative
A scientist and a politician walk into a bar...
>If you are not the world's domineering power you will be subject to someone else's, especially with a mega-globalised economy.
True, but we humans are flexible. Especially today with globalized communication.
America is a very strong country and could rape whatever it pleases; proof: Afghanistan (With Russia's help) etc.
The West, and you will never lose what you have.
I am a muslim and would literally murder myself and my family if any of them tried to change my homeland (Sweden) that is Westen.
If the world becomes competitive (as it should be) but peaceful, it will be a hell of a lot stronger than if it becomes temporarily monolithic before it self destructs.
Trump is not bad; nobody is.
He is just not a leader, and it does not fit for a country as great and symbolic as the US to elect the snake.
Why do you think Hitler suicided Nazi germany? Because he was winning, and he knew that his policies that are inarguably very similar to Trump's would become the norm.
Coming from a working family, and having been in the middle of hell (WW1) he ended the misery that would exist if people saw through lenses of: "Them" and "Us".
The world is complicated, and when arrogant lucky bastards like Donald make the solutions seem so easy without mentioning the catch ("I won't actually help you") I become upset.
There is always hope as long as one human is alive.
>>29094204
enjoy your free (You).
>>29094041
His solid argument made you look like a retard imo
>>29094041
Not even that guy out you're pulling the leftist "it's the current year" . Why are you typing if you're not arguing? What's the point of your waste of time? Doesn't matter that his argument is "so weak you don't want to argue " the very moment he put a proposition you should be able to counteract.
I don't agree history can be predicted in the way you seem to be implying. History does tend to repeat itself, but it's the first time we have the power to change it's course. We're treading on unknown waters who resemble something that happened long ago, but it is not the same.
>>29094318
>history has a predetermined direction
>solid
Stop trying to act like another person retard
>>29094333
It's not that his "argument" is so weak I don't want to argue, it's that his "argument" is so illogical that it proves itself wrong and I don't have to argue against it, which is why the best course is to point and laugh at the retard.
>>29093553
The real elite are the trillionaire jews like Soros and most of the others nobody really knows about
>>29094335
>quoting what someone says makes it sound like you know what you're talking about
Except of course when you follow that up with calling said person a retard and don't come up with your own argument
>>29093817
So more choices than a European election
>>29093908
>2016
>not being Jewish
Must suck to be a goy
>>29092844
You're against social democracy not communism which is stateless
>>29093011
>identity politics
Please leave
Go to /pol/ fag
>>29094737
And you're talking about things that don't exist.
>>29092589
>we're sick and tired of being exploited and abused by foreign armies without regard for our people
>I know how we'll fix the problem
>we'll support our national army!
Can someone please explain the thought process here.
>support women's and children's rights issues
>I know how we'll fix this problem
>we'll elect a crooked lawyer who knowingly helping a child-rapist by throwing evidence out of court and attacked the victim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJQf0DDZxc
>>29092589
Because dumb people are racist xenophobes so they value keeping out immigrants and killing off invisible terrorists over actually having a good country/economy/healthcare/education.
It's sad and funny at the same time. America is a third world shithole. Lel.
>>29095209
>they value keeping out immigrants
Not true. We value keeping out criminals. Every single illegal immigrant is a criminal. Look at their behavior in these videos.
>killing off invisible terrorists
You wouldn't happen to be French, would you? Or are all these terrorist attacks invisible to you? What about the terrorist that police just caught with a vehicle full of weapons and explosives who was planning to attack the soccer games in Europe. Europe, by the way, has strict gun laws. How in the ever loving fuck did he get guns in a gun free zone? The world may never know.
> America is a third world shithole.
Only so far as people like you are allowed to populate it.
>>29092792
Globalization is the future. If you cant get a job where you can easily move countries and work abroad, then your job wasnt worth saving to begin with
>>29095209
I wonder how the 20 yazidi women who the ISLAMIC STATE just burned alive in steel cages for the world to see because they refused to be rape slaves, I wonder what they would think about these invisible terrorists.
>>29092643
What ideas.
No one on pol even mentions what he is going to do for working people.
>there are still berniecucks on 4chan
What the fuck?!
>>29095277
Lol spend billions more on a war you'll never win. I hate those cunts too but America would be better off just protecting its self and not trying to police the world. Iraq and Afghanistan are like Vietnam but worse...just a waste of lives and money.
And to the clown above sure there's some illegal immigrants but most of them are doing your shitty jobs you don't want to do.. to get rid of/stop them all you'll end up spending billions and again getting nowhere.
Start focusing ur money on healthcare and education.. stop building a nation of unhealthy dumbasses. Eventually the dumbasses will out breed and over throw the small percentage of wealthy smart people and then you will really be in the shit.
As an Australian I was fucking horrified by how fucking shit America actually was to visit.. like don't get me wrong there's some nice areas.. but Holy shit the majority of your major cities are like a fucking warzone filled with homeless drug addicts and criminals. I can understand why you want to carry guns everywhere. It's a fucking shithole unless you're a privileged wealthy person. Funny how in such a short time Australia has become a better place to live then the so called greatest nation on earth.
ITT idiots who don't know how to look at both sides.
>>29095396
Get off the fence
>>29092640
>going bankrupt 4 times
>scamming people into his supposed personal university
>succesful businessman
Apparently
>>29095386
>Lol spend billions more on a war you'll never win. I hate those cunts too but America would be better off just protecting its self and not trying to police the world. Iraq and Afghanistan are like Vietnam but worse...just a waste of lives and money.
Nice, so you're a Trump supporter.
>And to the clown above sure there's some illegal immigrants but most of them are doing your shitty jobs you don't want to do.. to get rid of/stop them all you'll end up spending billions and again getting nowhere.
No, they're doing jobs that Americans do want to do, but for unbelievably shitty pay under the table because they don't pay taxes yet receive government benefits. The ones that work, anyway. The rest are gang members.
>Start focusing ur money on healthcare and education.. stop building a nation of unhealthy dumbasses
Step 1) deport these illegal criminals out of the country. Save a TON of fucking money.
Dude I went to school in a school with a white minority. These illegal Mexican shits, they stink, they don't do anything in class except disrupt it, half of them drop out, they're a waste of money and taking a seat, wasting resources that somebody who actually wants to learn could be using. Its so impossible to be in the same class as these people, that all the white and Asians have to self-segregate in "Honors" and "AP" classes. "Honors" just means standard for whites and asian, AP means honors. A school half full of garbage. We'd have much better education and health care if these diseased parasites werent attached
>>29095440
>net worth of billions earned through actual business
>not successful
>Trump Article on normiebook
>Check comments
>Anti-Trump comments were all made by non-Americans
>>29093529
>Many business men have said that imigrants are crucial for the development of the economy
>hire immigrants
>have them deported right before payday
gee i wonder why
>>29095608
Build the fucking wall. Build is so high and it blots out the sun of a hundred yards on their side of the border. We're gonna need to do something about Canada too, since they're threatening our national security by saying they'll smuggle crimials into our country
>>29095608
Is the wall idea serious? I can't tell as an europoor.
>>29092589
Hi, I'm from /pol/.
Well, you see, the elite of wallstreet for example, the banks, the stock exchange, etc, all exist to rip people off for profit. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is into sales, marketing, construction; he profits off of economic gain; if everyone's making money, he's making money; it's advantageous for everyone. That's two different kinds of wealthy, the economically responsible wealthy, and the newmoney. Banks represent the newmoney class; they're a bunch of crooks who will create credit, give loans; they make money off of money, devaluing the currency, at the expense of the tax payers, because the government is in on it.
>>29092589
I want leftists to leave, and stay gone
>>29093596
>"I'm not american"
Then why should I care what you think about an American man running for office in America?
>>29095685
Yes its fucking serious. Why is a wall such a radical concept to you people.
>what? you mean a country can actually have borders?
A wall is way cheaper than stringing border patrol together shoulder to shoulder along the entire length of the border
>>29095753
you still need to guard a wall anon
>>29095708
i can't trust a guy who uses that many semicolons
>>29095722
>wife's son
this can't be real
Butter my penis you little faget. Then I'll slide it into your little boipussy. I'll fuck until your ass is bleeding and you die from my 9inch manhood up your ass.
Don't talk shit about Donald without knowing that is the consequence.
>>29093817
>implying that there's anything wrong with being a sucesful capitalist
>>29093362
>he has spent none of his billions to help the US
what is veterans
pic is doctored anon-kun-chan
>>29092998
nice b8
the us is a constitutional republic. Not a democracy.
>>29092589
>Voting for Trumpo
>Thought process
Pick Juan.
>>29093006
>Give businesses tax breaks for creating permanent high paying jobs.
So companies get tax breaks for overpaying their executives?
>>29093842
wft is wrong with immigrants?
>>29095884
>Voting for shillary
>having balls
Pick cotton Juan
The idea is "he's already rich so he won't sell us out to rich people like the others!" They obviously don't know how megarich people think.
Also, remove spic.
Unfortunately he just stands up there and says what the majority likes to hear. 99% of the things he says wouldn't make it past congress because most of them are rich guys themselves.
>>29095912
>implying I'm in the states
KEKUS MAXIMUS
USA is so entirely fucked whomever get voted in.
inb4; Trump gets elected, rioting, civil war, disease breaks out and all US visas to Europe get denied.
>>29095912
Hahahah, only work us Hispanics are going to be doing on walls is fucking your little white daughters vaginal walls and making her pregnant with little brown kids. America will be majority Hispanic whether you like it or not.
Just look at /r9k/ and reddit. Full of white virgins while every other race is having kids. The time of the white man and of Europe is over.
>>29095540
>earned through business
You mean his Dad right ?
>>29092589
>Trump is just another establishment guy!
>I will vote Bernie instead, a guy who's been a politician since 40 years, that will show them!
>>29095955
>I'm not in the states
>Trump gets elected, rioting, civil war, disease breaks out and all US visas to Europe get denied.
Nice foreign memes.
>>29095957
Well if that's true, i guess it doesn't matter if Trump gets elected. So there shouldn't be any problems, right?
>>29096006
It absolutely wouldn't matter at all. The demographic change is already set in motion. This is the last gasp of white America. You've got white people wing beaten in the streets and they can't even defend themselves and they are looked at as the evil ones. You've already lost.
>>29093541
Yeah, out of 400.
>>29093365
> Hitler disarmed the public
No he fucking didn't. As a normal citizen it was piss easy to get at least a rifle. He only disarmed Jews/Gypsis and Communists/Social Democrats.
>>29095959
>this meme again
He made his money way before his dad died
Lol @ you assuming they're capable of thought
>>29092890
No point in debating bernie he lost.
>>29096044
So his dad helped him and did all the work and trump earned everything he got through nepotism?
>>29093223
>they should have their own power and vote
>they should vote
>vote
So fucking class-cucked.
>>29092890
How about you get informed you shit
>>29092589
antibodies are created by viruses my dude
>>29096087
Not really.
He turned 1 mil into 4 bil.
You try turning 1 dollar into 4000
>>29096090
So you mean that Trump wasn't informed and agreed to things without knowing consequences of them?
>believing in the authenticity of any thread about politics on /r9k/ after that post about the literal shilling going on at the behest of companies that want to control our perceptions
All these replies.
>>29096110
I can do that easily if I'm the son of a banker.
>>29096025
Lost what? It's not like blacks have it any easier in the streets and with the cops.
USA as a whole is fucked, that's why it doesn't matter if trump gets elected so you might as well shilling on useless imageboards.
>>29096146
You've lost the country and your future. White people will be slaves and will not exist as a race in three years. Not a single European left on earth in 20 years.
>>29095663
Get fucked.
t. a Canadian
In my own personalUninformedopinion, having a two party political system really fucking sucks. Especially with the Democrats and the Republicans. There's alot of shit that I don't personally agree with them but I can't really vote independent cause I might as well throw my vote away. I wish there would be alternative parties out there. Just for the sake of mixing things up at least. It's been the same old shit for far too long.
>>29096185
Cucknuck a fuck
Canada will be an Asian Indian emirate in 13 years.
>>29096110
>implying 1 dollar gives you have access to the same goods as 1 million does
>>29096166
you're predicting slavery now. I think my time here is done.
>>29096207
Implying we'll let that happen. We're not Germans, you know.
>>29092589
>this wealthy elite
>A man is an elite
You are retarded. If you mean Trump is part of the wealthy elite that people dislike, your retardation may be severe.
The business-political elite is the problem. Those who use their wealth and influence to dictate political decisions, and the politicians who obey.
If you think Trump is part of that elite, I guess you are recovering from a year-long coma and you have not seen how different individuals and organisations have reacted to the MAGAtrain.
If you're not a shill,you're not actually retarded, Trump loves you and it's never too late to get on the stumping train
>>29095824
we already have a border patrol. who will have a much easier job with a wall. they endorsed trump already
>>29096185
yea sure leaf, keep pissing us off
>>29096185
what kind of dumbfuck little country keeps provoking the super power at its doorstep
>>29092844
global jew rips off you less that a local one.
