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hey /r9k/, this is a somewhat serious thread. I need help from fellow robots. I'm an 18yo male, and I've never ejaculated. Never had sex, never masturbated, nothing. It's not like I'm busy with school or work or anything, I'm as much of a loser as you guys. I just never feel the urge to masturbate. I still look at some porn once in a while, but like it's mostly just nudes of celebrities. Not penetration or any other form of sex, that makes me uncomfortable, but I maybe haven't exposed myself to that enough to know for sure.

When I was like 15, I found that this was not normal but I kind of ignored it since I could still get an erection. But now, I can barely do that. I'm starting this has an effect on my day to day life. Do I actually have a problem? Is there a way I can fix it? I'm not opposed to going to a doctor's office and talking to him but obviously that wouldn't be preferable.
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how did you ever pass penis inspection day at school?
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that's certainly an unusual issue, OP. nobody on /r9k/ can help you with it. I definitely do recommend seeing a doctor. he may try a few things, as it perhaps may be a physical thing (for example, exercising more can help with ED in some cases). if he believes it to be a psychological thing, he may point you towards a psychologist.

regardless, see someone about it, as you've claimed it is getting worse as you age.
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>>29039791
>Do I actually have a problem?

yes. Go see an urologist
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>>29039842
Thanks for the thought-out response. I needed something like this.

I just don't even know how I would get started with going to a doctor's office. I know my parents have insurance but like would this be covered? I don't want to waste money on this, it's not paining me and I can live without it being fixed. Maybe just trying exercise on my own for a while and seeing if that helps would work? The doctor would probably use that as his first guess anyways since I don't exercise at all
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>>29039791
You're living the dream. You're better off asexual.
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>>29040139
Not sure if that's true, I'd like to be able to have a wife and kids at some point the future and I don't think this would be a major selling point for that.
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>>29040245
>I'd like to be able to have a wife and kids at some point the future
>being this young and naive
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Are you circumcised?

original comment desu
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>>29039791
if you keep this up for 12 more years you will turn into the wizard
so stay pure
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>>29040275
yes, I am circumcised, not sure how that would matter but I am open to any potential answers you may have
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>>29039791

You're just a late bloomer

I didn't ejaculate until I was like 17. I'm 24 now.
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I didn't jack off until I was your age OP, and it happened by accident when I was trying to jelq.

Do you have wet dreams? I used to get them a ton until I learned how to masturbate. Sex makes me uncomfortable too and as a result my sexuality ended up bubbling forth in the form of strange fetishes.

Get a little lotion and try rubbing it to whatever tickles your fancy. Keep going past the "this is starting to feel too weird" stage.
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>>29040397
I thought that was the answer, but since like my desire to have sex and be around girls has gone down while my access has gone up (college), I'm not sure if that's the case.

Either way, are things okay for you now?
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>>29040484

yeah, I have wet dreams but not frequently. Like maybe once a month or so?

I can actually feel the strange fetish thing, I had some really weird feelings frequently when puberty was starting and at its strongest.

>>Get a little lotion and try rubbing it to whatever tickles your fancy.
I think that's a solution worth trying.
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>>29040498
>no sexual desire/drive
>on /r9k/

M8 you could be depressed
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you've got testosterone issues, desu
consult a urologist
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Delayed Ejaculation is quite common.

i had it for years. you could always see a urologist
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>>29040609
I mean that's a possibility. Not sure what that would entail as it would mean a much bigger problem and time/counseling to fix. I don't want to make my lack of cum cost my family a ton of money.

>>29040646
I guess maybe delayed ejaculation could be it, since I've never sexually stimulated myself for more than 30 minutes which is what google says that is. I'm not even sure how that would be possible without killing your sexual stimulation though?
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>>29039806
Anon, I think you were molested
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>>29040311

>yes, I am circumcised, not sure how that would matter but I am open to any potential answers you may have

Circumcision removes the main sensory structures of the penis: the frenulum, the delta, and the ridged band.

You're missing a lot of erogenous tissue.

Circumcision was literally popularized to impede, discourage, and punish masturbation.

A lot of circumcised guys still masturbate because they can enjoy the residual sensations. Others can't feel much of anything during masturbation but still masturbate to induce ejaculation and relieve sexual frustration.

When you rub your penis, do you feel any pleasure?
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>>29040933

Also--even if your penis were completely ruined, it would be unusual for you not to feel the urge for a sexual release.

You may have low testosterone. Being circumcised isn't reversible so it would be better to focus on the things you can change.

If your T levels are low, that could be the cause of your lack of interest in sex.
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>>29040933
Not the guy you're talking to but I'm a cutfag and it can feel good if I haven't fapped for a really long time. like a week or so.
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>>29040933

I didn't know that about circumcision. Maybe that's a factor

I don't know what motion you mean by rub, I mean I tried to do the stereotypical masturbating motion earlier today but like got nothing out of it besides awkward feelings.

Low testosterone makes sense after researching symptoms online. I have pretty much all the symptoms of that besides the old people ones
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>>29041192

Try stimulating the area where the frenular remnant is (or would be if they had left some remnant). For a lot of circumcised guys, the frenular remnant is one of the most pleasurable parts they have left. This would be on the ventral side of the penis, near the cleft of the glans.

You can also try stimulating the circumcision scar on the ventral side (not sure what kind of circumcision you have--there are a lot of different styles--some leave a very clear scar, others have the scar buried in the sulcus and you can hardly see it).

Best if you try this with an erection.

The feeling is hard to describe. It should be kind of "tingly" and "ticklish", and give you an exciting or comforting sort of pleasure.
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>>29040933
Samphai, that's some total bullshit. You can repeat the circumcision-ruins-everything meme all you want, but it's just not accurate.

OP, you're likely asexual. It's fine. Or possibly low T, but idk. Go see a doctor/urologist, they'll know much more than us NEETfags here
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>>29041516

>You can repeat the circumcision-ruins-everything meme all you want, but it's just not accurate.

I didn't say it "ruined everything".

I said it removes the primary sensory structures of the penis.

The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis. It's where you'll find the greatest number and density of complex sensory end organs in the penis.

>The glans of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847

The cutaneous tissue of the shaft is mildly sensitive. The head of the penis is a protopathic structure with virtually no ability to localize sensation and almost no fine touch sensitivity. Most of the nerve endings in the glans are pain sensors.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3697758

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1464-410x.1999.0830s1034.x/pdf

The penis has been dissected. Dissection and analysis of the penis has shown that it is the foreskin which is the penis's main sensory structure, because the foreskin is where the most specialized nerve endings are found.
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>>29041516
fuck I really don't want to see a doctor about this the more I think about it, but it's like the main suggestion I've gotten

>>29041461
Yeah, I don't have a frenular remnant afaik. Not uploading a dick pic so you can check sorry. The only ticklish feeling I can get is by touching just like the edge of the foreskin but it's not a pleasurable feeling, just more of a "stop" feeling. As for the whole erection thing, I can't force those at all, and they come infrequently.
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try fingering your anus or watching gay porn.
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>>29039791
Well it's surpassingly difficult for me to get off to anything but the fantasy of being magically transferred into a woman's body, so it might be difficult for me to give decent advice.

On a serious note, have you tried using lube? It's like putting a turbocharger on your dick.
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>>29039791
You gotta feel the feelings in your peepee. Fall in love with a girl and jerk off to her. Also, don't try rough porn. Try soft core, sensual shit.
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>>29041639

>The only ticklish feeling I can get is by touching just like the edge of the foreskin but it's not a pleasurable feeling, just more of a "stop" feeling.

If by edge of the foreskin you mean the scar, that could perhaps be due to the formation of amputation neuromas and disordered axon tangles. This can cause kind of a weird "crawly" or "burning" sensation. Unfortunately there really isn't any way to fix it.

>Although the circumcision scar has not been thoroughly studied, there are several different theories as to what happens when the nerves of the sensory receptors of the prepuce are transected during circumcision. Some have speculated that after circumcision, these nerves regenerate and develop new encapsulated receptors [92]. According to this theory, there would be a significant loss of penile sensitivity after circumcision, but this loss would not be apparent 6 months after the circumcision [92]. This notion is in direct conflict with human and animal studies that show when a nerve is transected, and the distal tissue is amputated, the proximal nerve undergoes acute axonal swelling [93-95]. After acute injury, the axon begins to sprout and branch at the injury site. Without the distal nerve, this frustrated attempt at re-innervation results in a bulbous, disordered tangle of axons, Schwann cells and fibrous tissue.

>Histology of the male circumcision scar shows amputation neuromas, Schwann cell proliferation and the bulbous collection of variably sized neurites. Amputation neuromas do not mediate normal sensation and are notorious for generating pain.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1464-410x.1999.0830s1034.x/pdf
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>>29041823
I have not tried lube. Might be worth it. But I probably need to have an erection for it to be relevant right?

>>29041844
Yeah, not gonna lie I got the most erections when I was "dating" the one girl I've ever dated in 8th grade. Even around other girls. I do softcore stuff, but it still feels kind of gross watching it to me
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If you have no desire to masturbate or have sex, why do you care whether you can get erections?

It sounds like you are schizoid or just asexual, and the lack of erections is a consequence of your muted sex drive. Maybe it's being amplified by some psychological, hormonal or environmental factor(s).

>>29039993
I'd start with diet and exercise if I were you.
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>>29041905
I don't care all that much, like I said I have no desire to. I just want to make sure that I'm healthy. I'm not all that happy with anything that I do in life so I was wondering if maybe this was a cause/symptom of that.

I will try a diet and exercise. Speaking of diet, I'm vegetarian, and have been my whole life thanks to parents, could that be a factor?
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>>29041971
>I will try a diet and exercise
When I "start with diet", I mean "look at your diet", not "go on a diet". Just make sure you're getting all your vitamins and minerals and not consuming too much sugar.

>I'm vegetarian, and have been my whole life thanks to parents, could that be a factor?
Could be - sex drive is related to testosterone and testosterone is made from cholesterol, and regulated by vitamins A, B and D and zinc, all of which are most commonly found in animal products.

Are you a "true" vegetarian or do you eat fish, eggs or dairy? Any of those in sufficient quantities will make up for not eating meat. Otherwise, look for sources of the above nutrients online (food sources are almost always better than supplements).

Also, sleep is important to. You should get at least 7.5 hours.

>I'm not all that happy with anything that I do in life so I was wondering if maybe this was a cause/symptom of that.
Depression can cause sexual dysfunction and low testosterone can cause depression (and sexual dysfunction) so maybe.
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>>29042134
Sugar is definitely not an issue, I barely eat sugary stuff. Not sure about all vitamins and minerals, I don't check that stuff ever. I'd say the biggest issue is that I don't eat enough. It's a lot of work to make stuff and stuff that's already made tastes gross to have a full meal of.

I'm a normal vegetarian, so I don't eat fish, but I do have eggs and dairy. Milk has always tasted gross to me though so I don't drink it alone. I sleep plenty I think.
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>>29041889
>for it to be relevant
It's a challenge for you to get an erection? Nothing does it for you? No hetero shit, no gay shit, no "imagining yourself in another world" shit?

Have you ever looked at erotic literature? It's some degenerate and life-ruining shit, but it has some interesting kinks. For me, it's about 50/50 between finding new things that I like (with erotica) and having to search insanely specific criteria to find something that makes big benis. But when I've found erotic lit that makes benis big, holy shit there's nothing else to compare it to. Physically/erotically speaking, far better than sex.

I've found erotica that had me hard and ready to jerk practically 24/7 for a week after reading it, even if I wasn't consciously thinking about it. Even in a situation that was completely boner-killer I'd feel a stirring down under if I started to recall how the story went.
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>>29042252
I mean I haven't really watched gay shit since I'm definitely more attracted to females when I walk down the street or whatever. I mean I've had erections, but they literally come at somewhat random things and times. I can't find a way to force it. Not sure what else to say. I guess I could comb through erotic literature to try and find something but I mean it's not guaranteed to work and it seems kind of degenerate to do that
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>>29042223
Try eating peanutbutter out of the jar, it has about 600 kcal per 100 g. Peanut butter and milk are god-tier for skeles, even if you're poor.

Do this test: http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/depression.aspx
It will tell you whether you should see a doctor about depression. Only takes 1 minute.
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>>29042324
>it seems kind of degenerate to do that
Not being able to get an erection voluntarily is pretty degenerate if we're speaking /pol/ese here. Like I said, fanfic IS ridiculously degenerate, but not being able to voluntarily get it up or jerk it is probably worse.

Have you talked to an actual professional about this, not just autists on the internet? Especially if you're a male, it sounds like an issue that would be worth spending a few bucks to fix.
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I would love to have that power

I hate getting awkward boners all the time

I hate the feeling of disgust and shame once I finish jerking off

I hate spending time trying to get a girl to fuck

I hate spending probably $1000 a year on hookers
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>>29042747
Nope, only autists. I was coming here for like a preliminary diagnosis to see if it was normal. The people I have told said no but I didn't know if they were just weird. I really fucking don't want to talk to a doctor and I especially don't want to talk to my parents about talking to a doctor.
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>>29043444
>don't want to talk to my parents about talking to a doctor
If you're a uni student, most unis have doctor/shrink/whatever offices you can get an appt. with and your parents never have to know.
If otherwise, yeah, if you're still on their insurance I don't think there's a way around it. Talk to your local LGTB groups or whatever, though, even if the SJW air is a little heavy they might be able to point you towards a counselor who could help you without your parents finding out. Just don't take anything they say at face value, remember these are the chums who think "masturbating to Ryan Gosling in a Homestuck cosplay" is a distinct sexual orientation that needs legal protection.
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>tfw no sex drive or interest in sex
>tfw want emotional intimacy desperately
>tfw too old to be a late bloomer

I'm not even some weird super genius to make up for it. I have hobbies, but I'm pretty dumb and shit.
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>>29043485
I went to like my school's counseling center earlier this year when I was feeling more depressed and talked about that, and it was okay. Definitely SJW air but like it is what it is. I would feel awkward talking to those people about sex though to be honest.

Using the LGBT stuff is a good idea I guess. I'm home from school until August though, so that's not an option for a bit. I don't really want to be "accepted" for my sexuality though, I want it to be fixed. Still worth a try though. Thanks.
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>>29042339
shit, just noticed this test. I took it and got a 17, which they say is likely depression, but I mean the tests are kind of awkwardly worded so I could change my answer either direction on the scale. I'm still not sure but I guess it's more likely than I thought before
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