How to fix US high schools:
>mandatory 8 classes must be offered per year
>4 years of math (with a senior "why math doesn't suck" class to get misfits inspired)
>4 years of science (same deal)
>2 years of English (one reading and one writing class)
>3 years of computers
>2 years of a single sport (can be waived for after school participation)
>3 years of social sciences (world history, u.s. history, gubment)
>1 year of fine arts
>1 year of how the world fucking works
>10 elective credits
>Before graduation, the student must have proof of a job or college acceptance
Need a bigger carrot.
30k cash for completing high-school
50k if you complete it with good grades
100k if you complete it with perfect grades
>>29012663
Like a minimum wage for graduates like what Norway does?
Bring back skilled trade programs
>>29012624
so you're suggesting that high school pretty much stays the same
okay...
the problem obviously lies in grade school/middle school. mathematics is taught at 0.5x the speed it should be taught at, and there's so much redundant bullshit. I've taken world history 4 times (grade school social studies, middle school world history, high school world history, high school AP european history and US history)
>>29012745
And integrate it into high schools?
>>29012752
The US has actually the best education system in the world. I don't want to change how it's taught. Rather just what is taught.
>>29012624
fuck off
I missed 1/3 my school days because I was sick.
>>29012830
So? You got better.
>>29012624
All of this is good but let me add a few more things
>No summer break
>Normies who make a ruckas in class or harass other stundents recieve serious legal punishments
>Gender segragation
>>29012787
I wouldn't be the NEET I am right now if my high school taught me some marketable skill
>>29012915
I used to do gender segregation. It sucked ass.
>>29012950
Math and science are marketable.
>>29012950
Way to be a cuckheaded victim...
...how about all of the people who attended the same schooling you did who have managed not to become NEET?
Maybe the problem is you, cunt.
public schooling needs to be trashed
>>29012624
>implying this would fix such an utterly fucked system
Keep trying famalamadingdong
>>29012624
how to fix u.s. schools
>>29012624
>How to fix US high schools:
For all non-remedial students, replace 3/4 of classes with team projects oriented around work experience (for profit or not), scholarship, design/art, and physical activity. Students are placed in teams of 3-5 at the beginning of each semester, they choose a project in each category, and work on it for a semester. They give regular updates and turn in a final report/presentation/physical object. Grading is mixed group/individual.
The idea is to teach people how to learn from their experiences and their colleagues, rather than teaching content.
>>29012624
>More years in computer classes than English
>Required PE, not even speaking about it being a single sport
>Fine Arts required
and most of all
>Before graduation, the student must have proof of a job or college acceptance
since when did the world become a magical place where everyone can get into colleges and jobs? this isn't some commie wonderland>compulsory education
>>29012985
Only at the basic literacy level and the college level. No in between.
>>29012624
i think school uniforms should be put into place. no more normies harassing you for what you wear.
>>29012624
>>1 year of how the world fucking works
>"Alright class, today we're going to discuss why you're future and depends mostly on who your parents are"
>>29013638
>Blaming others for your problems
>>29014365
>muh just world
>>29013638
>your status affects most of your future
at least you said "mostly"
both of you are pathetic honestly
>>29012826
>The US has actually the best education system in the world.
What the fuck world are you living ?
>>29012624
How to fix it:
>No summer break, but graduate from HS sooner as a result
>Should leave like 1 year for kids to do their own thing, be it work, hone a craft, or jerk off before they hit adult age
thank me later
>>29012624
just replace "English" with Philosophy
no, not Nietzsche and not English department bs philosophy
rigorous, British origin metaphysics and logic
>two years English
>three years computers
What the fuck
That makes no fucking sense
>>29014683
He fell for 'le coding bubble' and pretends like we aren't all going to have to learn mandarin in a few years, like most autistics.
>>29014683
That's right. We should get rid of English all together. If you can't read and write by high school, there's no hope left for you.
>>29012624
Make the IB program manditory
or at least AP
>>29015805
This is against global rule tres.
>>29012826
>US
>best education in the world
You're full of shit anon
>>29016415
>Muh test scores
We're the best, faggot.
>>29016430
Proof much?
>>29012624
I spent high school blowing off all of my work to play video games instead. Your shit won't work.
>>29012624
I think people need way more English classes. There are so many people that write like complete retarts. There should be a semester long class that just drills in TOO vs TO and THERE vs THEY'RE until folks finally get it
>>29012624
All of your suggestions are unnecessary.
There is only one fix needed:
>Racially segregated schools.
>>29016617
>implying grammar matters on the fucking internet or in a casual conversation
>Real sex education and not abstinence-only shit
>Life skills class not for tards. Shit like balancing a checkbook, how to get copies of important documents, etc
How to fix it: get rid of it.
School is obsolete. You can learn pretty much anything on the Internet.
>>29016617
>There are so many people that write like complete retarts
>retarts
I bet you did that on purpose.
>>29016800
>how to fix US school
>give me a Yang gf right now
>>29016819
She's all yours, buddy.
> the student must have proof of a job or college acceptance
You do realise some people like to take a break to travel after graduating, right?
>>29016651
Not him, but...it does. You probably haven't studied language, etymology and the like enough to appreciate this, but believe me when I say that this is true: it matters.
The degradation of language is not simply the degradation of style or propriety. It is the degradation of society's ability to think. The more that we collapse nuanced ideas into singular terms that express a watered-down version of many similar-yet-different things, the more we simplify language for the sake of convenience, the more we just don't care, the closer we get to being unable to express certain things, and thus to being unable to think them.
When one generation stops using proper grammar and vocabulary to convey an idea, relying instead upon the faith that the person being spoken to knows what it is that is being (half-assedly)conveyed, that laziness only succeeds in communicating the idea because both parties previously had a notion of the idea. After a few generations of that, without the actual words and sentence structures expressing that idea being in the grand dialogue, the idea itself is lost because people never think it to begin with, and if they do, they have no means of expressing it.
You are doing a disservice to a dialogue that has been ongoing for 250 millennia. Yes, languages evolve, but there is a difference between expanding the ability to express thought and narrowing it through laziness.
the problem is funding and results. results on paper make kids look retarded (because they are) but the societal solution is to blame the schools
not everyone is a fucking genius. some people have to fail a standardized school created to let everyone have a non back breaking occupation
>>29012624 (OP)
this is a fucking trash list
>4 years math/science
this is already the case for most
>2 years english
make that 4, english > math for general applicability
>3 years computers
if you need to take a course on computers, you're doing it wrong
>2 years sport
no ty
>3 years social sciences
4 minimum, and expand the options to include econ, psych, other electives
>1 year fine arts
no, replace this with 1 year philosophy
>1 year how the world fucking works
what is this shit, no
real solution: allow students to specialize in natural sciences, social sciences, arts, etc.
also how does this shit not include 4 years of foreign language
>>29016843
>4 years of english
Yeah, nah.
i had to do four years of english and it was far from applicable, the entirity of my last year of english was just creative writing, poetry, a novel study and shakespeare, all of which Id done the year before, and the year before and the year before, after that I just switch to fucking communications which is just the actually fucking applicable parts of english.
All the actually useful skills for people who dont plan to pursue anything related to english can be taught in 2 years, easily.
>>29016845
>take a "break"
Yeah right. 100% of the people from my highschool who "took a break" are useless fuckups now
>>29016848
Eh I'm essentially the apathetic live and let live type that thinks everything is going to shit anyways so their is no point in caring.
>>29016956
shit sorry I accidentally typed their instead of there, well I suppose that gives a good amount of ammo to shoot me down with. Sorry about being a faggot
>>29016912
>>29016874
Fucking christ fuck off robot im just linking a fucking post to another.
>>29016956
If everything is going to shit, then part of "let live" entails making efforts to protect that which supports and improves life. That includes language.
>>29016975
I honestly thought that was a self-demonstrating joke, but it looks like you genuinely made a mistake. Pay it no mind.
>>29016843
>English
>Important
Stopped reading there. You must be a NEET.
>>29017000
I suppose so but now I'm basically in a state of extreme apathy. I essentially think that at this point we're beyond repair and it's pointless to waste energy fighting the inevitable.
>>29012624
Terrible idea
The problem with schooling is the idea that everyone learns the same way at the same pace combined with the idea that one size fits all for education.
You're just taking that to 11.
You want to "fix" schools?
Stop focusing on education that anything past 'I can read and write at 6th grade, make change, and know my colors' matters to more than 10% of any fucking body.
As someone who left school a long time ago, let me clue you in
Other than universities, NO ONE gives a fuck what your GPA was in public school and NO ONE gives a fuck if you were valedictorian.
Ever.
UNIVERSITIES don't give a fuck about that shit if you live an actual life.
>Guy that graduated college with me had a 2.1 GPA in HS, no extra-curriculars. He went into the army for 4 years and did Intelligence work.
>Boom! Accepted into any school he wanted without SAT or ACT scores
All that math?
Fuck you. Most people will never, ever need anything more complex than basic geometry and Algebra 1. Ever. And more than 1/2 of you forget that shit by the age of 20, anyway.
Science? Bullshit. A unit in social studies on the scientific method and one freshman level class is plenty for most people.
Instead of your 'sit at a desk and get good grades!' fuckery, get people into part time jobs, get them vocational training, and get them out of the classroom.
>>29012624
>>mandatory 8 classes must be offered per year
Way more Than that are typically offered. Most people only take 6-7 though, which means people who do poorly at the beginning can take 8 classes yearly to catch up, if they so choose.
>>4 years of math (with a senior "why math doesn't suck" class to get misfits inspired)
Algebra 1 level matg is being taught in elementary schools now. (because of common core) More math is unnecessary
>>4 years of science (same deal)
Again, useful, but unnecessary for daily life. (L4 years of science should, of course, be available, but making it required would just lower graduation rates. Chad doesn't want to know Physics, so he'd just ditch it.
>>2 years of English (one reading and one writing class)
English class is typically more about grammar than anything else. And English, both written and read, is used daily. (You wrote this, did You do algebraic equations today?)
>>3 years of computers
Computers as in programming? Really unnecessary, but many schools offer programming classes now. Making it mandatory would mean that obnoxious black kids would constantly be watching porn durring class while other's actually work.
>>2 years of a single sport (can be waived for after school participation)
Literally, why? That's blatant discrimination against handicapped people, and it isn't any more academically relevant than PE is.
>>3 years of social sciences (world history, u.s. history, gubment)
Is already required in most schools
>>1 year of fine arts
Fine arts like drawing? Or like playing an instrument? Either way, it's irrelevant to the life of the average worker.
>>1 year of how the world fucking works
One year of meme magic? Or one year about how the Illuminati runs the world and the Jews run the Illuminati?
>>10 elective credits
That's 2 semester elective classes. And fine arts give elective credits, under most systems, at leasts.
>>Before graduation, the student must have proof of a job or college acceptance
Literally, why?
>>29017521
It's not east to get a job in school because you're unable to work most hours (because you're at school, and can't leave until you find a job) Your system would have people in their mid 20's still im Highschool.
And IDGAF about what classes you liked or disliked in school. Not everyone is you, so please don't try to force your life down our throats
>only 2 years of ""English""
Bullshit. Keep it 3 - 4 years of actual literature and grammar skills plus vocabulary, and 4 to 3 yard of history and political works.
Why not just stop all publicly funded education? If it requires a law to make people go to school it can't be that good of an idea. People who want to learn will go to private schools provided they have parents who let and pay for them to go. Overnight the nigger problem is solved and schools can be a place of learning instead of a babysitter/ersatz prison.
I was home schooled, and even then my parents didn't do much besides ask me if I studied. I basically just did whatever I wanted so I dicked around the library and surfed the web. No formal structure whatsoever, yet I turned out alright. It's because I'm better than most people. You can't polish a turd into a diamond and you can't neglect a diamond into a turd. Blank slate is bullshit. You're either born a winner or a loser and personally I'm sick of all the fucking losers not only getting in my way but also thinking they deserve to even live. You can't tell me we're equal when I got my BS on academic scholarship and grants despite being white and male yet there are others without even an Associates and struggling to find work in a warehouse or mcdonald's.
>>29012663
Why not a bigger stick? Anyone who doesn't have a GED by 15 is sentenced to life in prison.
>>29015655
This so much. It's not the dark ages anymore. Even hobos own printed word. Composition might be useful but it can be taught in a month.
>>29016492
Do you live in a cave? We have all the best Universities and pretty much all breakthroughs, discoveries, and inventions come from American minds.
>>29016916
>muh anecdotes
There's a whole world outside of your high-school, bromigo. Even then what you stated doesn't refute the fact that they and others may want to take a break after graduating.
>>29012624
>le STEM
Fuck off.
>1 year of how the world fucking works
LE REAL WORK XDDDDDDD
>>29016912
More English would make less worthless STEM spergs come out of high school thinking everything ever is understood.
>>29017202
How is being a kike drone 'actual life'
>>29015655
You most likely cannot read or write beyond a YA level.
>>29017937
There were no Dark Ages.
Of course, an illiterate like you would believe otherwise
>>29017956
Wrong; America is the STEM sperg capital of the world and has terrible universities that reinforce this.
>>29018038
America has accomplished more in the last 200 years than the entire world has since the ice age. If STEM is just nerd shit how should we judge a country's education system? Fine arts? The lesser countries had a head start but if you look at the last century America has still produced more works of art, and they are of a higher quality than anything the other countries manage to shit out.
>>29017845
>libertarians
but
WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS?
>>29018038
I'm pretty sure the dark ages occurred. I mean I haven't personally shook hands with the Roman Emporer but last I heard the Roman Empire isn't around anymore.
>>29018038
Lit major detected.
Fuck off shill.
>>29018140
I'm more fascist than libertarian, the difference between the two is bigger than you would think.
I'm guessing the people who don't go to school or get a real job will build the roads. I don't really give a shit who builds them so long as I can get where I need to go.
>>29018164
Xyr probably isn't even smart enough to be a lit major. It's probably a woman studies community college dropout.
>>29018217
>the difference between the two is bigger than you would think.
wow really i had no idea they were complete opposites.
>>29012624
There is NO "fixing" USA.
You can't fix a broken plate that's missing most of its pieces, you miserable fat fucks.
Everything in AMERICA is FUCKING GARBAGE.
How many times do I have to say this;
AMERICA IS A SHIT HOLE
Fuck all of you for thinking Canada is "irrelevant"
Seriously, if I could, I would each and very single one of you the middle finger.
Fuck it.
I'd actually just punch the shit out of you, you fat fucks. You deserve it for being a nation built on EVIL.
You have estrogen in your water for fucks sake.
And yet, you have THE FUCKING GALL TO CALL CANADA AN "IRELEVANT" COUNTRY?
FUCK YOU.
If I could run across a football field and punch all of you in the fucking face, really fucking hard, I would.
Yes you fat fucks, in the superior country of CANADA, we can run the length of a field due to having fitness standards.
Also all of your women are slutty as fuck.
In Canada, our women are raised with traditional values. They could also beat the fuck out of yours too, due to all your women being fat as fuck, or small and slutty, making them mobile/easy to carry as they go around fucking everything in sight, as typical with American women.
A nations values are based on how strong our family values are; and evidently with divorce being as high as it is in USA, you people are a ruinous country.
Have fun sucking your governments dick while Canadians continue to excel.
Lol fuck America, and fuck all the Americans reading this comment.
You are all high octane cancer.
You fat fucks are more harmful for the planet than the last 20 war lingering civilizations combined.
When we start to colonize space, don't be surprised when the superior CANADIAN military gets the jump on you and destroys you in the void of space.
We'll inherit the galaxy while you stay on the earth, getting fatter and sluttier.
Haha, stupid fat ass Americans.
Get fucked.
If any of you came to Canada, I'd fuck you up, bitch.
>>29012624
English is taught very poorly these days. They stop teaching it formally after like the fourth grade, and just practice styles of writing.
In highschool, I had a teacher try to give me 60s for a character analysis because it didn't agree with what her answer guide said. I ended up having to take it to the head of the English department, because the teacher had no ability to think critically.
I'm surprised no one called me out on it.
Again I'll say...high school is bullshit.
The Internet has made it obsolete.
You can just learn all that stuff on the Internet and go get your GED.
I see literally no point in high school. Just seems like a huge waste of time and money.
>>29018104
Science is just garbage for materialist morons.
>America has accomplished more in the last 200 years than the entire world has since the ice age.
Historical revisionism from the empiricist, classic.
>but if you look at the last century America has still produced more works of art, and they are of a higher quality than anything the other countries manage to shit out.
No they haven't and no they aren't; they're shallow garbage save for a dozen or so.
>>29018163
They didn't.
Take it from a materialist to revise history.
>>29018164
Functional math/engineering/physics triple major, actually.
>>29018259
Tumblrcunts are all materialists as well.
>>29012624
Why do you want to help them them succeed? They will only bring you more competition.
>>29018300
I wonder what it's like to be this mad about something. Honestly, I don't think I've ever felt this much emotion in my entire life.
>>29018300
Maple leaf, a fucking
>>29018381
Why? It's true. That's why, even in my rural shit hole, a lot of kids just go to school online now.
Really the only things HS were ever good for in the first place was to teach you how to deal with assholes in real life and learn how to be a good little worker bee.
>>29012624
>4 years of math
>proof of job or college expectance
This is where you went wrong
>>29013118
That loser's bombs didn't even work.
>>29012624
>mandatory
Try again
>two English classes
God damnit why was I cursed to be good at this shit and not a STEMlord?
Just shows how appreciated we are in the age of information
>>29018457
yo you're getting shat upon by stemfags but keep it real senpai
>>29019064
No I'm not, they're shitting on themselves.
>>29015816
The IB program was a fucking meme and needs a massive overhaul
I favor de-regulation(teachers teach whatever they want), mandatory volunteer service, mandatory vocational training and apprenticeship(following a fucking plumber), financial education(they fucking need this shit holy fuck), and music.
High schools lack music and the arts while favoring subjects like history. Math should not be a 4 year requirement. There are clearly people who simply cannot into maths or other subjects, I think its anti-specialization to try to make 'well rounded' students. At that age, you need a dose of fucking reality not socialization.
>>29019259
>LE REALITY XDDDDDDDDD GET READY FOR LE REAL WORLD WHERE ALL YOU DO IS PAY LE BILLS
>>29018530
It's called "being Canadian"
That's why they have the highest density of shit posters out of all the nationalities, and 9/10 times it's usually hate towards America.
I think schools need to focus more on teaching biology so that people are able to learn that there are only two genders.
>>29018300
What's wrong? Did you get BTFO in /pol/ by
>a fucking leaf
or Trudeau memes?
Don't take it so seriously faggot?
It's not your fault you were born in Canada.
>stop funding schools through force (property taxes)
>allow private schools who will compete for money and thus improve services offered to exist
>screen for IQ at age 14 freshman year
>if IQ < 90 give them special education to try to get them to 100 and quarantine them from the rest of the population
>if after a year they are still under 100, stop wasting resources trying to teach them
>>29019583
>le IQ
Fucking empiricists, man.
>>29017886
I didn't finish high school until I was 17, and I was the youngest person in my year
>>29015816
>AP
AP is a jewish scam to sell prep courses
t. 3 years of AP classes
>>29012624
Actually teach shit with discipline, class about budget and money regulation. Make Computer Science a mandatory class and give (Both normal and special need student) a lesson on Job interview.
>>29019697
>Make Computer Science a mandatory class and give (Both normal and special need student) a lesson on Job interview.
STEM sperg pls.
>>29019731
You know this is total disastrous when someone has more than 10.000 viruses and malwares on his machines. Right ?
>>29019777
Avoiding that doesn't require a knowledge of computer science.
>Let's just teach everybody coding!
Getting pretty sick and tired of seeing this meme.
>>29012624
>4 years of math
Caught the math faggot. Trigonometry is brutal and doesn't stick with a non-math-person. Going any further would cause many good students to struggle to get 65s in their class. I appreciate your suggestions but the great majority of teenagers will not benefit from struggling their way through calculus.
>>29012624
Stopping promoting a victim complex based culture.
>>29012624
Get taught a least one martial art at school. At least this would take care of the bullying issues.
>>29019838
>trigonometry is brutal
>struggling your way through calculus
How does it feel to have an empty void where your brain should be?
>>29017202
at least lessen the stigma on going into vocational training
there is literally nothing wrong with wanting to be a mechanic or a plumber or woodworking, WHATEVER.
Just do what you want to fucking do like goddamn.
>>29019901
>math is for the intelligent
lol
>>29019901
passed calc 1, 2 and 3/vector calc, graduated with a bachelors in computer science last month, never passed trig. Fuck trig.
>>29019680
> sell prep courses
all you need is a $5 used prepbook from ebay
t. self studied ap bio, art history, and calc bc
Are classes on doing taxes normal?
We could skip math and learn to do taxes and jew the system as much as possible
>>29019987
to stupid to understand triangles and circles
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>>29012624
>4 years government
covering federal, state, local governments, international relations, voting, evaluating candidates, identification of key policy issues, and examples of successful governing from any part of the world.
>4 years english
covering style (as in punctuation, page layout, using word processors, and such), with lots of reading practice, talk-to-the-text practice, practice identifying important parts in reading, lots of practice developing, sorting, and getting thoughts onto paper (in the form of writing short arguments about the reading based on observations from the reading), and lots of practice rewriting and editing previous work. No essays will be written, but examples of good essays will be studied.
I'm not too sure about the rest.
>4 years technology
lots of practice google searching. safe browsing practice. practice keeping an organized file system. basic understanding of computers, networking, and security.
>4 years science
mostly human biology and behavior. how the body works. how to keep it healthy.
We need four years of something to develop problem solving skills. I'm not sure what the best topic is for that. Math? Programming?
>>29016651
Maybe this isn't really grammar, but I have doubts about English. For one, what's the point of capitalization? What is the point of having words for numbers (e.g., "two" for "2")? When are they going to fix the alphabet and spelling? What's the point of putting ' in contractions (e.g., "can't" instead of "cant").
To me, there's a lot of junk in English that needs to be cleaned up.
>>29020801
they are not normal, but they would be a great idea. I love that idea.
>>29019583
IQ isn't some concrete thing you can take so seriously
>>29013280
There is a new class that's coming out next year called AP Capstone, which is basically what you described. (Groups get together and research for the year, then deliver a presentation)
>>29021558
Most languages need a big revamp.
