Can you guys describe what it is like to not have ever had sex.
I hadn't gone without sex for longer than a month since I was 16. All I could remember was being anxious, moody and somewhat depressed.
It feels like the forth ring of hell in the inferno, where you turn into a living tree.
Depends on your life situation.
Most robots who sit around here as NEETs/otherwise friendless virgins really don't have to worry about it too much, because they're not in contact with the normie world. Sex and relationships, for them, only exist through the computer screen. Their number 1 problem is that they need to gain a life purpose and a social life before they can think about sex.
There are a small subset of robots here however, like myself, who are normal looking and have social lives, yet are kissless virgins. THAT is a hellish existence.
Every day I have to make contact with normie friends who have had girlfriends, casual sexual partners, or even if they are virgins have at least kissed a girl or had a non-serious GF. That shit makes me want to kill myself. To know that I try SO HARD to be appealing to women, and yet I just fail to get anywhere. That makes me want to cut my fucking eyeballs out.
I still don't understand how there are normies out there who can be physically unattractive, socially awkward, and dress like shit all at the same time and STILL be romantically/sexually successful. I literally am friends with people like that. I don't claim to be hot in any way whatsoever, but I'm a normal guy. I make an effort with my appearance, I'm sociable, people find me funny. I would love it if a normie could tell me what the fuck it is I'm doing wrong.
It's hard to explain because I have nothing to compare it to.
I guess it's kind of like when every one is going to a party that you're not invited to, and they keep going on about this party all the time. At first you're upset because you want to go to the party, feel accepted and see what all the fuss is about.
Later you mostly accept that you're just not a party guy and parties are something for other people, not you.
Anxious, moody, and depressed sounds about right.
>>29000363
I never really cared until I was 24 then it starts to feel like failure with a hint of bitterness and alot of embarrassment.
>>29000534
>Every day I have to make contact with normie friends who have had girlfriends, casual sexual partners, or even if they are virgins have at least kissed a girl or had a non-serious GF. That shit makes me want to kill myself. To know that I try SO HARD to be appealing to women, and yet I just fail to get anywhere. That makes me want to cut my fucking eyeballs out.
>I still don't understand how there are normies out there who can be physically unattractive, socially awkward, and dress like shit all at the same time and STILL be romantically/sexually successful. I literally am friends with people like that. I don't claim to be hot in any way whatsoever, but I'm a normal guy. I make an effort with my appearance, I'm sociable, people find me funny. I would love it if a normie could tell me what the fuck it is I'm doing wrong.
How often do you meet new girls? Do you know how to flirt? Are you assertive and actually ask girls out on dates or hanging out one-on-one etc.?
>>29000363
don't often fall for bait, but here we go because when people say this shit one question always strikes me.
I believe normies when they say "I haven't gone a month without sex since 16" or similar shit, but how do they constantly get it? Do they just find sluts at the local bar or club or something? Do they just go "Yeah, I fancy a bit of sex tonight" and then go out and get it? And that's why they don't go long without it?
Or is it that normies are always in some form of relationship somehow, and they end up just having sex in those all the time?
>>29000873
>go out and get it?
>>29000873
>Or is it that normies are always in some form of relationship somehow, and they end up just having sex in those all the time?
It's a mixture of both. If I'm in a serious relationship, I usually have sex at least a couple of times a week. If I were single right now, I'm 100% sure that it wouldn't take me more than a couple of nights out to get laid. If I were to fail with strangers, I could always reach out to "old friends" and invite them to hang out and sleep with them.
>>29000873
Op here
Depends on the person. A buddy of mine had girls on the side with a gf. I had been in two long term relationships and only slept with 3 women total
>>29000995
you've proven yourself a normie to me with that advice so i'll bite and ask for more.
These "old friends", how do you just randomly initiate sex with them? Surely that's the reason you're inviting them over, so do they already know that, or do you use some sort of sorcery with films or special words?
>>29001044
There are female acquaintances in my circle that I'm 90% sure like me. You can just tell by the way they talk to you and flirt with you when you run into them. I'd just ask them to come over for an evening of cooking together and/or watching some movies, I guess. All girls understand what this means (even though some girls play dumb if they are in need of some attention; or will turn you down if you "do/say something wrong"). I'd just be flirty and try to get physical with them. Just as if I was on a date (well, technically it would be a date, wouldn't it?).
>>29000836
>How often do you meet new girls?
Relatively often. Not too often right now as I'm out of school and not going to university until September.
>Do you know how to flirt?
No. I can attempt. But I don't know in specific, concrete terms what "flirting" is.
>Are you assertive and actually ask girls out on dates or hanging out one-on-one etc.?
I only ever asked two girls on a date, and they were both when I was 16 and both over text.
The simple fact is, if no girls seem to show me any sexual/romantic interest, what am I supposed to do? Just ask out random girls?
>>29001145
Dont ask a Chad for advice for god sake. This is like asking Michael Jordan how you can be in the NBA
>>29001137
>You can just tell by the way they talk to you and flirt with you when you run into them
How can you tell it's not just them being friendly? A lot of girls I've talked to in the past could've been seen as being flirtatious but I know from the circumstances (and the fact that it's me) that they probably didn't mean it like that.
This is the trouble, I'm always too afraid of mistaking friendliness for flirting and biting off more than I can chew. For this reason I guess I've never tried being much of a chad.
>>29000363
Baito desu but here's a serious answer. Once you stop treating sex like it's a necessity and realize that it's one of many things that you can enjoy your life will improve.
>>29000363
it depends from person to person
I, for instance have a distraction in philosophy and politics + I don't reall know how it feels so it really doesn't bother me
Sex? It's not bad. I don't care for it or need it. I'm somewhat frightened by it due to my own insecurities.
What hurts the most is no gf.
>tfw she will never tell to me to never give up
>tfw she will never remind me to get enough sleep, and to take care of myself
>tfw she will never come back
>tfw shes happy and done with us
>tfw its not over for me
I miss you so much Vicky
>>29001145
>No. I can attempt. But I don't know in specific, concrete terms what "flirting" is.
>what am I supposed to do?
It's hard to give advice when you don't know the person in real life. I've tried to give an old friend some advice and he failed miserably. He is well-adjusted, normal looking and eloquent. We ran into each other, got drunk together and he started talking about how he is having a hard time with girls. I told him that I used to struggle a lot too and gave him some advice. Next thing is he called me and told me how he crashed and burned, when he met a girl at a restaurant. Well, at least he managed to use a part of my advice and for once noticed that the girl was at least interested in the beginning. She gave him a warm smile and looked at him all evening, so he actually managed to approcch her and get her number.
When I later was around the friend if cute girls present, I realized why he was having such a hard time with women. He'd do his best to drop spaghetti everywhere. He focused too much on "appearing normal and in control" that he just looked weird. His posture was weird, his eloquence was gone, he started talking too quickly and incoherently and would blush all of the time. Don't get me wrong, a little bit of this might be seen as cute but, boy, I guess he was extremely anxious.
So, if you got any problems like that, I'd suggest to practice a lot. Talk to starngers when you go out. Talk to girls, talk to guys, to couples, to random groups etc. If you're already good at that, you've got to get better at flirting. Again, you've got to practice on this. You can flirt with women everywhere. Start out with a warm look and a slight smile. Become comfortable with slight touching of her arm and hugging girls/ taking them in your arm etc. when out in the evening. If you're not a "much of a dancer", start dancing at least a bit. Get comfortable with dancing with girls or by yourself, learn how to communicate when on the dancefloor (bod language
>>29001187
>How can you tell it's not just them being friendly?
Of course, that's a possibility, especially if the girl in question isn't always flirty. But I've seen some of the girls around at parties etc. And at least a couple that come to might aren't that flirty with many guys/ their male friends from what I've seen. One girl I know, for example, is always touching me a lot, laughs every time I say something, even if it's not too funny etc. These are pretty clear signs.
Over obvious signs are if a girl is asking you out, or less obvious, is trying to make it super easy for you to ask her out (girls are good at this; I used to not get it all of the time when I was younger). One girl who was pretty much begging me to ask her out back when I was oblivious to flirting etc. also became angry/pissed when I was around other girls. I know, it's easier to spot it in retrospect. Back then my self-esteem was low and I wouldn't have thought a girl like her was into me. I couldn't read the signs then.
I've never had sex or masturbated before so honestly I feel nothing about it. I don't know how enjoyable it feels and I've never experienced it. My days are taken up by work and other hobbies like reading or going to the gym.
I guess I get depressed sometimes when I read stuff like romance/sol manga that have characters in cute relationships but I haven't been close to anyone in years.
>>29001415
See, I don't know if I'm bad at talking to women, because most of the girls I speak to right now are people from my social circle. I'm very comfortable with those girls because I've known them for a long time, but I don't really want to date them.
I found out towards the end of school that there were quite a few girls who thought I "disliked them" or even that I was arrogant. This completely bewildered me because among friends I'm known as quite funny and light-hearted. But apparently with girls I didn't know too well, I was giving off vibes of being stuck-up and disdainful. I think it was something to do with being very shy around them, and because I feared that they disliked me, so I tried not to say much.
I do think I've gotten MUCH better at social communication over the past year, though. I've been to a lot of parties and spoken to a lot more girls, so maybe I'm past those problems. I just can't seem to take things further.
>Start out with a warm look and a slight smile. Become comfortable with slight touching of her arm and hugging girls/ taking them in your arm etc. when out in the evening
I do actually do things like this and seem to get a decent response. Just, like I said, it never goes beyond that.
>If you're not a "much of a dancer", start dancing at least a bit
I don't really understand how to dance. I ONLY dance when I'm drunk or at least tipsy, and I get the feeling I'm super shit at it. People tend to laugh at me when I dance, and when I'm drunk I play along with it because I'm usually in a good mood on a night out. I DEFINITELY don't know how to dance in a flirty or sensual way.
>>29001687
>it never goes beyond that
If a girl reciprocates and keeps checking for you, go over and say hi. The worst thing that can happen is that she tells you that she got a bf, or that she'S not interested. Say hi, introduce yourself, do some small talk, and ask for her number. If she isn't into you, don't make a big deal out of it and just show her that it's fine and you're just having a great and fun time.
>people tend to laugh at me when I dance
Who, friends? You can ignore them. They often just laugh to hide theri own insecurity, or because they thought that you weren't a dancer etc. If strangers laugh at you, you can ignore them too. If you look around any dance floor 90% of people (even the girls) suck at dancing. Dancing on that level is just about letting go and having fun, which took me a long time to understand. What helps me when I dance is to 1.) see what others are doing and copying it or it least using certain moves as a guidline. Or when I dance with a girl copying something, to which she often will react by copying whatever stupid thing you come up with next.
2.) the other thing I do when I dance is to have a bottle of beer in on hand when possibe. Because I always end up feeling that I look dumb because I don't know what to do with my arms. But with my beer in hand I feel secure, if that makes sense.
See, the thing with dancing is that if you approach a girl at a party etc. you can ask for a dance after exchanging a couple of sentences and don't have the problem of immediately having to talk in an atmosphere that is not optimal for talking to a stranger. You can also bond by doing something fun toegether early on and get close to them (= physicality), maybe you'll even end up kissing or making out.
You can also meet a girl by ending up dancing with her. Either way, after dancing for a while and establishing a sort of physicality, it is easier to jsuggest getting a drink (although you can do that after talking for a while as well of
>>29002047
(cont.)
of course). You can lead her off the dancefloor, buy her a drink (or have her buy one for you), then suggest to exchange numbers, or if possible to find a place at the club/party where it isn't too loud so that you can chat for a bit.
>>29000363
I played a lot of video games and madturbation was cool
Thats about it...
>>29000363
Never having sex is irrelevant. It's like asking someone who's been in a cave their whole lives what it's like to have never seen the sun.
Never having intimacy on the other hand - never having someone to share your innermost thoughts and desires with and have them reciprocate...that is much more painful, because you can feel and know these things and want others to feel them with you.
Feels hollow. Like life has no purpose or meaning. Utterly nihilistic and or absurd, depending on whether or not you think life requires meaning.
Having someone you could be truly honest and intimate with could stave that nihilism off maybe. Make life worth living. Instead of a living hell, alone and trapped in your own mind in a world where no one is either able or willing to understand you and want to be and remain close to you.
>>29002047
Thanks for the advice, that's all pretty helpful - I'm going clubbing next week and the advice given about the dancing really helped. You're the MVP
>>29000836
Why did you greentext the whole post?
>>29000873
Lately I have just been telling girls I don't want a relationship and that I just want a friend who wants to fuck every now and then. Now I have 3 friends with benefits and the funny thing is that they're all friends also
>be 27 y.o KHV
>literally kids born in the year 2000 and onward have gotten laid before me
>remember Y2K like it was yesterday
how time flies robots
Im 30 years and never had it. I'm at a point I don't care anymore about it..years of apathy and nihilism helped me to see how useless life is in the end.
I always found kissing lame and women are massive annoying double-think creatures with no logic. I rejected many girls and avoided them too.
I'm a real Robot.
>>29002756
What have you done with your wizard powers though?
a few things that come to mind
> feel like a 12th class human
> feel like a 14 year old trapped in a 26 year old's body
> feel worthless
> feel like an absolute failure in the "evolutionary" sense
> feel like the laughing stock of the whole world
> self-hatred off the charts
> feel like all my problems are caused by this
> hate girls
> hate guys
> hate couples
> by now, when I'm out in public, I look at people and think "yep, he had sex" - "she definitely had sex" - "yeah, that guy too"
> the concept of people having sex outside of porn is so weird and strange, it might even be happening in a bizarre, far away universe
> feel sorry for disappointing my parents
> want to kill myelf everaday
> cry a lot because of lineliness
> I'm white, 6.8/10 looking and make decent money and still girls despise me when they smell my shameful weakness, which makes me hate myself even more over it
I got close tho. Met a girl from South America, went on a dozen of dates, we always made out heavily, it was the single best thing I ever felt in my whole life because I actually liked her. She had many personality traits that chicks I hate don't have.
But she has trouble staying here, finding work etc, she's in constant fear that in 2 weeks she has to pack her bags and go back to her home country even though she wants to stay here badly. So she said she can't do anything resembling a serious relationship right now but that's the only thing I want so I had to cut contact.
I fucking hat normies so fucking much.
>>29002817
>What have you done with your wizard powers though?
ahahah.
Troll and ramble about life and read and eat and travel. And get drunk.
>>29002845
>the concept of people having sex outside of porn is so weird and strange, it might even be happening in a bizarre, far away universe
I remember feeling like this too. It seemed so extremely strange to me.
>>29000534
you sound like a grill, maybe that's the issue??
>>29002886
I know right, it feels so weird that people around you would be plunging their penises and vagina into each other
I've had sex a couple of times but it's been a long time since then. Not doing it makes me feel less alive, like I'm missing out on life because I believe that pussy is a reason to live. This philosophy leads to feelings of jealousy, anger, sadness etc. A general sense of disappointment. I've listened to my neighbors have sex a few times and it got me more depressed than aroused.
>>29002845
breed outside of america, find a qt in a foreign country or something
>>29001540
are you really attractive or something?
i'm asking because Ive seen a few girls laugh when I say something that I don't think is really funny just generally quirky but I always thought it was because they were shy or they were trying to be nice to me
>>29001411
I agree.
>tfw no gf is a bad ride
Once you feel someone supporting you like that it's rough going without it. Probably similar with sex I'd figure (KHV - so can't say for sure)
