I'm looking for suggestions for life improvement.
I'll state some examples so you can make more suggestions.
1. Not visiting 4chan.
2. Not skipping work out days.
3. Masturbating without porn (just using imagination and memories).
4. Stoic attitude (e.g. If I lose my temper with someone, do something absurd because I fail to analyse it properly, etc, counts as a failure like when I visit 4chan).
5. General improvement (Did I do something useful or to improve myself today? Did I jack off to instagrams of bitches and played vidya instead?). e.g. Today I made home repairs.
That's all I've been able to come up with thus far. I'd appreciate your input.
Have some kittens to grab your attention.
I think you can only improve by having measureable goals.
Loosing weight
Learning a skill or trade
Getting more sleep
You wont be able to measure social interactions because they are not repeatable. This is why a lot of self help advise is nonsense.
>>28994753
I was thinking about measuring things in a "X days without doing Y". e.g. "30 days without visiting 4chan". Or "5 weeks in a row with some irl human interaction (on each week)" and stuff like that. That way it's easily mensurable without having to overcomplicate stuff.
>Loosing weight
>Learning a skill or trade
>Getting more sleep
All of these are good. I'm currently working out, looking for a job and I try to learn stuff as I need it. Yesterday was my first day laying brick and was fun as hell. My dog enjoyed it thoroughly as well. I could do better to get some sleep, as I usually go to bed after 00:00.
Piss off back to /soc/ faggot
Quitting masturbating completely if you're an addict, and limiting to once a week if you're not is the first necessary step to changing anything else in your life.
That said, I'm thinking about celebrating 5 days of nofap after today by actually quitting 4chan for a month. Cause that is the biggest facet of my internet addiction and something I could do without for a while.
>>28995115
Try again, asking politely.
>>28995132
I don't think quitting masturbation would make me happier, though I respect what you're trying. It requires a lot of self-control. For me the problem was porn, as I would spend maybe an hour browsing it for a 5-10 fap.
It's also my "reward" for workout days.
Quitting 4chan definitively (and not replacing it with any other site) is a challenge. Can you offer some tips in this regard.
>>28995309
for me the problem was both, as I would spend a few to several hours browsing porn while edging/cumming/returning to edging a few minutes later
To help you quit 4chan, think of it as a colossal waste of time, that despite how entertaining/useful/helpful it can be little of value is gained compared to other things you could be doing on the computer, or reading books, etc. I would also say go outside, but I persoanlly do go outside all the time, but at night all I do is internet.
>>28994331
>here's my standard of improvement that i'm going to hold you up to
>self-improvemnt
right, ok
>not visiting 4chan
we're here because there are subjects of interest. conversations. so instead of looking at it as an ugly evil addiction that you should be ashamed of, why not try studying the subjects themselves? make an attempt to foster a higher level of content matter. vast majority of the time spent isn't going to be anywhere near 4chan. you could spend months analyzing the analysis, statistics, facts behind one shitpost.
i mean what's the fucking value of abstinence if you're just sitting in a room doing fuck all?
>>28994331
Dimorphios ?
Open mouth and say words. I think making small talk is kind of asinine and dumb but I realize that it can ultimately lead into an actual conversation. If you're with a group of people and are holding your tongue until you think you have something worthwhile to say, you might not end up saying anything.
I've been in many situations where I was hanging out with people and I didn't say much because I didn't feel like I had anything worthwhile to contribute, and after a while, someone would take notice of the fact I hadn't said anything.
>Anon, why aren't you talking?
or
>Oh Anon! I forgot you were here.
So say things, even if they are things that don't have any weight or real substance to them.
>>28994331
Learn how to handle your liquor, you'd be amazed at what you can accomplish with the RIGHT level of buzz. Practice at home, find your exact level of comfort. Empty stomach with 4 jameson/ginger ale get you sloppy? Don't ever do that in public. 3/4ths full stomach with 1 Vodka redbull and 2 vodka sodas within an hour give you 90% motor control but much less anxiety? Then recreate that situation every single time you drink. I know this sounds simple and not really "improving" yourself but if you can learn how to be a fun drunk you're social life will improve 1000 fold. Socializing is so much easier with a good buzz even skype or texting. Seriously who the fuck are you trying to impress with what websites you browse or what you don't jack off too anymore? Do whatever the fuck you want with your own time. Trying to solve you're private issues isn't going to solve your public ones.
>>28994331
>>28994331
you promised kittens, I see no kittens
>>28995461
>To help you quit 4chan, think of it as a colossal waste of time, that despite how entertaining/useful/helpful it can be little of value is gained compared to other things you could be doing on the computer, or reading books, etc.
Thanks, anon. This is great advice.
>>28995485
>>here's my standard of improvement that i'm going to hold you up to
I'm sorry you felt attacked by my post, anon. Maybe next time I should add some trigger warnings for (You)?
>we're here because there are subjects of interest. conversations.
>/v/
I'd rather play videogames
>/ck/
I'd rather learn to cook instead of discussing which fast food chain is best.
>/r9k/
... Well, I guess that
>we're here because there are subjects of interest.
doesn't really apply to /r9k/.
>instead of looking at it as an ugly evil addiction that you should be ashamed of, why not try studying the subjects themselves? make an attempt to foster a higher level of content matter. vast majority of the time spent isn't going to be anywhere near 4chan. you could spend months analyzing the analysis, statistics, facts behind one shitpost.
These are some high level mental gymnastics to try to justify browsing 4chan to no end while you could be doing so much other stuff instead.
>i mean what's the fucking value of abstinence if you're just sitting in a room doing fuck all?
If your alternatives are browsing 4chan or not doing anything you're fucked. I have a metric ton of side projects that I cast aside because I had some other pressing concerns (college, etc). Quitting 4chan alone would free a big chunk of free time to devote to said projects.
Again, sorry my post triggered you.
>>28995504
The sauce is in OP, but thanks for the name, anon. Have moar kittens, but I suggest you to download the torrent.She masturbates with a fucking chunk of ice. And I mean penetration. Video. Download that shit right now, nigger.
Sorry for the long comment.
>>28995525
It's not an issue in my case, as I act actually histrionic, cracking jokes all the time while in social situations. I never share my feelings or worldview except with my closest friends, but that's not really a problem when you're joking most of the time. People would not even think about asking what do you think about Russia's stance in the Syrian civil war.
This has the drawback of people not seeing who you actually are, but 98% of the time I don't want that, so I'd say I'm ok in that area.
>>28995943
I like your analytical approach to getting tipsy. I'm writing this one down. I'll try this one next time, though I don't think it'll come anytime soon now that I'm strait outta college.
>3/4ths full stomach with 1 Vodka redbull and 2 vodka sodas within an hour give you 90% motor control but much less anxiety?
>Seriously who the fuck are you trying to impress with what websites you browse or what you don't jack off too anymore?
I'm not 6 years old. I don't thirst for approval.
>Do whatever the fuck you want with your own time.
If I did whatever I wanted at any given time I wouldn't accomplish anything. Every goal requires some sacrifice, since reward is rarely immediate. Think about working out, learning a skill, or getting a degree.
>Trying to solve you're private issues isn't going to solve your public ones.
What do you mean here by 'public issues'?
>>28995975
>He doesn't know kittens
Fear not, /r9k/tizen. I'm here to help you out.
http://anon-kittens.tumblr.com/
>>28994331
>I'm looking for suggestions for life improvement.
Watch porn.
>>28994331
I follow a spreadsheet I made of what to do every day.
It's still like 70% doing nothing, but it's interspersed with 30% productive stuff.
>>28994331
those are not life improvement things those are normie tier things, real life improvements are doing the things you enjoy the most.
Like spending time with friends and family and doing things together you enjoy. Or maybe going on a trip abroad. It can even be fishing or enjoying nature. Just doing whatever makes you happy/relaxed.
>>28996758
You know this is weird because if you don't watch porn you will feel that you are attracted to women a lot more then usual.
Also your testosterone levels drop if you masterubate often.
Thats why im pretty suprised to see that non-porn watchers are pro-feminist.
>>28994331
>Thinking free willis real
Wew laddy.
>>28996837
Watching porn on a regular basis tends to heighten expectations of each subsequent viewing. It's common for someone to start on vanilla porn and end up fapping to violent gangrape porn. Regular viewers are never content with one subgenre of porn for long.
>>28996890
Yeah I know but I didn't expect men that didn't watch porn to be so cucked by women. I expected that the pro's/con's from not watching porn would make the effect about the same as watching porn.
But the difference is quite big.
>>28996839
You used your free will to type that.
I dont want to be addicted to porn anymore
I want to have a normal sleep schedule
>making a post on a site about no longer posting on a site
it's like going to an opium den and asking high mother fuckers if they're gonna stop hitting that shit
>>28994331
Her hair looks greasy as fuck. This wasn't an original comment.
>>28996758
Heh.
>>28996775
I like spreadsheets, but I try to keep it simple, because if I plan too much I end up allocating most time to planning instead of doing. Thanks, anon.
>>28996798
>those are not life improvement things those are normie tier things,
Huh?
>real life improvements are doing the things you enjoy the most.
Playing Wargame is not going to make me a better programmer, for instance. What are you trying to convey?
>Like spending time with friends and family and doing things together you enjoy. Or maybe going on a trip abroad. It can even be fishing or enjoying nature. Just doing whatever makes you happy/relaxed.
I already do all of those. I'm not asking about how to enjoy stuff, but how to improve my life at a deeper level than the "right here, right now".
>>28996837
>>28996890
Welcome to the hedonic tradmill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill
>>28996839
>I'm a memer and there's nothing I can do about it.
Good for you, anon.
>>28996968
These are good goals.
>>28996969
Actually, since quitting is so fucking hard you probably will find people that have tried to quit before. While their advice will obviously not be a silver bullet, you can get useful info from there. Would you ask non-opium consumers about how to quit opium? It's not as contradictory as it seems at first, though your observation is totally valid.
>>28996956
No,i was conditioned to by my envinonment and brain chemistry.you mong
>>28996775
can you post an example?
curious to see how it works.
>>28995943
Wow. I drink alot but you're an alcoholic.
>>28996992
You make a good point. Part of me wishes I could quit 4chan / porn / etc. but then I feel like it's all I have. I don't fit well in reality. If you're young and can still pass as human, try not to lose yourself to the abyss.
>>28997032
I might be wrong, as I'm not aware of your situation, but 4chan and porn are a subset of reality, so that abyss is not so different from any other place. You can have brutal rape fantasies and still pass as a well adjusted normal being, and even bring a light version of that to the bedroom with your unsuspecting partner.
The average human isn't so different from the average /r9k/ lurker. We're all fucked up, in our own special way.
