Any tips on how to live a decent life knowing we're just meaningless balls of chemicals?
>>28975520
So autism general?
>>28975520
ESTP MASTERACE
>t. the trespassing normie
>>28975534
Meme'd me there lad
>>28975534
haha oh wow xD
>one chance at life
>born INTJ
Why?
>>28975547
All faggots welcome
Oregano
>>28975520
I'm 41. I actually gave up about five years ago, gave up women, quit my job and moved into my parents' house. Now I just rot in a bedroom, distracting myself from the inescapable futility of existence.
I'm no help at all. Life is pointless.
I have one.
Grow up and become INFP. Read "Ami: Child of the Stars" if you know what's good for you
>>28975636
No thanks
>Inb4 pirate it, I'd like to support the writer
>tfw INTPlel
Im hoping my startup will be bought by Google or some other tech giant so I can finaly live a comfy NEET life.
>>28975520
I didn't know INTP was so bad. I've taken it before and gotten INFP. I'm barely in the T range.
>>28975679
No need to pirate it, it's available online for free. Also, read it with an open-mind. Be open to the fact that it could actually be a true story.
>http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/amibook.pdf
>>28975722
It's quite a painful and pointless existence
>>28975739
Cheers
>>28975520
>meaningless balls of chemicals
>he's still in the materialism stage
oh dear
>>28975777
Explain anon
Oregano
>>28975799
see
>>28975636
oregano, origami, fuscilli, cappelli.
INTP here
Start doing things that involve your hands more than your mind, some kind of craft or trade.
I'm hoping to build my own aluminum foundry when I get paid and start branching out my outdoorsy craft interests from there.
>>28975858
Muh inside joke
Just explain it instead of being a fag about it
introverted =! shy. I can talk to anyone but I also prefer to spend my free time alone
also _really_ confident guys that aren't all that easy to read are oftentimes swimming in pussy
>>28975754
Why so? I'm just really creative and smart but I can never finished what I started. I had a close friend who was ENFP and we balanced each other well. I can't stand people who get J on it in general.
>no "F"
Non-F's should never be fully trusted since they prioritise other things over your feelings
>>28975906
That just makes Fs wishy-washy emotional blackholes
Prioritize people who have their own motivations in life.
The problem is most INTPs have no motivations AND don't give a shit about others' feelings.
>>28975520
research enlightenment (not european)
>hahaha fucking worthless autists hahahah
>always score intj
Sometimes I think I'm the only INFP here who is happy with his life.
>>28975926
I actually have a huge boner for the arabic academic age as of late, any recommended texts or such famallama?
>>28975943
>arabic
i meant the buddhist/east asian kind. there's a lot on it online. 'the power of now' is a good entry level book
>>28975939
literally noone here is happy with his lifereee
>>28975974
Ah, I was probably going to work my way east anyways.
You sure what you're recommending is scholarly text and not some self-help FotM crap?
>>28975520
Just distract yourself with a semi meaningful task daily and don't think about it. The more meaningful, the better. I know how much it sucks to do menial shit as an INTP. Extremely depressing.
Because that's what we are.
These pathetic personality types have become the new star signs, and also a tool for narcissists like OP to post their self-indulgent "feels"
>>28975799
means a whole is more than the sum of its parts, you are using consciousness (non-physical entity) to negate consciousness based on the physical medium it arises from
>>28975880
Read the book.
Essentially, you're not as evolved as say an INFP. While INFPs may struggle a lot more in this current world since this society is all about survival, they are the cure for society. The more of us there are, the better the world will be for everyone.
You're still living in a primitive mindset that drives and sustains this poisonous society. You look at the trees, but you don't see the forest. You bath in the ignorance of cold-hearted science that functions on completely unexplained, impossible foundational theories (such as how a 'meaningless' particle can give birth to the richness of life). As such, you ignore your subjective intuition and feelings and class them as an obstacle rather than something very fantastic and entirely purposeful.
>>28976004
oh, it's not a scholarly text, it's a crap. didn't realise. you can try translated conversations with a sage/guru thou - google 'i am that talks with sri nisargadatta'
>>28975799
some faggots think that mysticism is the truth rather than a coping mechanism
>>28975636
any way to find it for free?
>>28976042
Thnx boi
++ oregona
>>28976061
oops nevermind
Ooga Boogaloo intj here.
Muh introverted autism assburgers
LE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE GENERAL and pleb op doesn't post the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-BI1Snk7eU
>>28976025
Hmm, subjective feelings versus science?
What a tough choice.
>>28975547
My brother is ESTP.
>tfw when smarter than him
This proves INTPs are smarter than ESTPs.
>>28976212
>he doesn't take the bell theorem into consideration
>he only believes in newtonian physics
>he doesn't know the observer creates the observed
>his life is devoid of purpose and meaning
>he is probably an engineer
>>28976289
>he thinks "observer" means a literal person
get fucked, new-age faggot
>>28976289
Hello Deepak, do you miss the designated shitting streets?
>>28976310
>>28976325
>muh scientific determinism
>>28976354
>not being a compatibilist
>current year
>>28976354
>fuck being correct, just believe what feels good
t. hippie
>>28976310
It's not actually new-aged, it's very old knowledge.
Try this for size: what's more meaningful for you, the love you feel (or felt) towards a loved one, or cold hard scientific facts? If someone told you love isn't real, would you believe them? If they said they still need to figure out love before it can be anything of worth, since "the theory is still being developed", what would that mean to you?
And if you've never known love, then my point has been proven.
>>28976377
Facts are more meaningful. Love is transient and conditional. Facts less so.
>>28975520
>Any tips on how to live a decent life knowing we're just meaningless balls of chemicals?
Understand that all life is meaningless, train yourself up, get your shit together and go out and put an end to other meaningless balls of chemicals who you also happen to think are a bunch of fucking cunts.
>>28976377
Who argues that people don't feel emotions? I have yet to see someone actually arguing for that possition.
>>28976400
>tfw no natalia gf
>>28975520
Tips?
Invest in the weapon industry. Feels pretty good man.
>>28975520
>meaningless balls of chemicals
You dare call yourself INTP/INTJ being a nihilistic existentialist?
Never say a word again.
>>28976390
>>28976447
Ok science guys: prove to me that love exists. Or any emotion at that.
If facts are more meaningful than love, neither of you would be alive. The only reason you're both alive is because your parents cared for you on some level enough to feed you and raise you as a baby. Without love, you'd have died before you could even learn how to walk.
>>28976049
t. retarded faggot
>>28976491
I suggest he goes on a glorious rampage that will go down in history and all you can do is lament over Natalia.
>>28976515
QUOTE
I'm so sick of people who call themselves INTP/INTJ and get stuck with beginner level existential crises
>>28976049
>it's a coping mechanism because i say so
>>28976520
Why is being alive important?
>>28976582
Whether or not it's important, your life definitely isn't, you can kill yourself, good bye
>>28976579
yer a cheeky cunt m8 but i like that gif
>>28976595
But that hurts my feelings. Aren't feelings supposed to be meaningful and important? Way more than so called facts?
>>28975520
>2015+1
>trusting the chemicals in you to tell you your just a ball of chemicals
step it up famalam
>implying INTP and INTJ are alike at all
INTJs are insufferable people who think they know everything and have no respect for anyone else's ideas or intelligence.
INTPs are just too passive and don't know how to make themselves useful because they're all theory and no application.
>>28976615
Yes feelings are important, don't let anyone tell you otherwise, people in this thread have very little understanding of the MBTI
>>28975520
The same way you deal with living in a deterministic universe. Ignore it, with the aid of various drugs.
just do drugs, senpai
they're not hard to come across
also, if you hate drugs just kill your self
faggots
Anyone else ever make lists of things they'd like to do in life, perfecting the list and planning it out to the end, but never actually do anything on the list?
>>28976696
Yeah I just gave up on that.
I try to simplify my life, and just learn to do one thing at a time. It's too overwhelming otherwise.
It's time to form an NT conglomerate and tear down the world, the shit it is, and rebuild it from scratch.
>>28976647
>INTJs are insufferable people who think they know everything and have no respect for anyone else's ideas or intelligence.
I'm an INTJ and constantly expand my knowledge by reading different ideas which changes my perspective.
By learning from other INTJs I realized the flaw in their arrogance and corrected the problem in my own life.
I don't assume I'm right.
>>28975636
>Grow up and become INFP
>>28975636
INFP is one of the worst personality you can have. The only thing that sounds even more painful than that is INFJ.
I want to live a life as a simple farmer.
>>28975636
>Grow up and become INFP
Oh you sweet, Summer child.
>>28976824
We should all move to cali and start a medical marijuana co-op, or a cult or something.
>>28976623
actually all you are is the universe/reality observing itself
can someone explain to me how INTPs are useless? I dont get it
>>28978547
We've got no motivation to do anything
>>28978547
It's just used as an excuse by people who can't get motivated to do anything.
>>28975573
But INTJs are the superior human, anon.
You get to be smart and practical at the same time, plus the I helps one to cope with crippling loneliness.
>tfw apply to redundant jobs - get sad from pointless within weeks
I truly need not a job but a discipline like being an artist or what I really want to: be a pro skateboarder
>He fell for the """"""balls of chemicals"""""" meme
>>28978714
But INTPs really aren't motivated to do anything.
>>28975573
If you're an INTJ and think you have no chance at life, you're doing it wrong. We can do anything when we put our minds to it. It can take years of planning and constant motivation, but out of all the types, we, and we alone have the ability to execute a plan without losing sight of the big picture and not giving up.
So get your shit together robot, and fucking get out there.
>>28978961
>But INTPs really aren't motivated to do anything.
Most unconsciously realize that the modern world is garbage and every step can be lethal
INTPs would do very well in a Traditional society, they arent not motivated to do anything, they just arent motivated to engage in their spiritual death although it seems most here on r9k are nihilistic retards
INTP here. i turn 19 tomorrow. this is my high school senior photo. been out of school for a year now
even though i hated school and never did anything, it was still nice having people around
>regularly experience depersonalization
>start watching Alan Watt vids and talks randomly
>start using weed and other psychedlic drugs
>now it's embarrasingly obvious that I'm a fucking phony-the ego is a formless illusion
>feel shadows of ego loss even when I'm sober from so much drug use and innate autism
>wanted to change my life prior to all of this because I thought "this was it, my one life"
>now I know that this is only the end for my ego, and I hate myself with an intense fury so killing myself is all the easier
What a fucking joke, this is what autism+depression looks like. You're so fucking up your own ass that you end up staring your ego in the face at some point and then everything dissolves into meaninglessness.
>>28979099
I sometimes feel I'm an INTP but every test has given me the result of INTJ. I am motivated, it's just I know there's no point.
INTJs can be nihilistic as well. But we seem to keep going anyway. Maybe that is the difference.
>>28979153
This pic could be a meme.
>>28978592
>>28978714
why do INTPs have no motivation
>>28979153
good reaction pic will be using
>>28979268
If I knew why I'd know what to do to fix it and have motivation
>>28979268
Because they aren't INTJs
>>28979157
Ironically, you're stating that life is meaningless from your own ego. If you were evolved enough, you would realise that life does in fact have meaning through the pure fact that it can. And it always does, even though you think it doesn't. You're miserable because things aren't the way you want them to be. That doesn't make it all meaningless. When you feel strong love in the moment for someone close to you, is that meaningless too?I too regularly experience that form of mental illness in the form of derealisation
>>28979189
>>28979293
>>and the rest of the no-motivation faggots
lmao you fucking retards. there is a solution you're just too retarded and locked to your beliefs. either kys or stop being so SHIT
>>28979400
>when you feel strong love for someone close to you
Where do you think we are?
>>28979449
Good point. Here's an easier example for less fortunate robots to understand then: anything you enjoy - you love that thing, on some level. That gives it meaning. Of course there's varying degrees of love. I'm writing this post because on some level I love that I'm expressing my thoughts with another human being and maybe helping them in some way by communicating it.
Your reply to my previous post was similar, but more low-level love. When you don't have enough, things don't seem worth it. But there's always meaning, it's just that we've been conditioned as we grew up to look in the wrong places for it.
Are you trying to compare us to INTP filth, roach?
Don't make me laugh.
>>28976196
>special snowflake
>for oversimplifying your own personality into one of only sixteen possibilities
>>28979268
seems there isn't a lot that is both worthwhile and feasible
>>28979547
Maybe I am looking in the wrong places. But then again I am just really tired of being in this shitty form.
Thanks for something to think about, I guess.
>>28979699
>But then again I am just really tired of being in this shitty form.
It goes deeper than that. You and I are both here because we're lacking something in our lives. Read the book I mentioned near the beginning of this thread.
>Create a world you can believe in.
>Live in it
Even if it is fake, it sure is fun to try... though may result in schizophrenia.
>Personality of entj
>introverted nature of "leave me alone" of Intj
Feels good man. Went through cyborg training for three years to become like this.
>>28975520
>tfw sweet valley
>>28979268
Their function stack has very few motivating functions in the right positions. Ti, their strongest function is purely analytical. It may give an INTP a possible insight into how to do something but it's far more suited to understanding systems that already exist rather than building new ones.
Ne is their most motivating function as it gives them an awareness of all the possibilities around them. However this is only their second most important function and therefore doesn't give them the same outgoing personality as the ENTP.
Si their third most important function is responsible for order and routine. Mature INTPs will usually have good habits and will less likely end up as disgusting pieces of shit. Although for most INTPs this function doesn't really develop until the age of 20.
Fe their weakest function may help someone be motivated by making them want to impress/make proud their friends and family. However as this function is repressed this desire will only sometimes reach an INTPs conscious mind in the force it needs to make an INTP want to make actual change with their life. Even if that does happen then you also have to consider that even if an INTP has a desire to make changes, you also have to consider how they lack the function stack to create and stick to any sort of change.
>>28975520
INTP checking in.
Sometimes I feel like I could do great things, but then I realize I hate myself too much.
>trusting my brain to tell me it's just chemicals
>trusting my brain to tell me it's in my skull
>trusting anything I know, all for a want of a trustworthy thinkmeat
Also struggling with the "How does human choice not interfere with an omnipotent god" question, and the only answer I can seem to find is "It just doesn't lel"
At least my INTP brothers are showing up.
>>28979153
>what could have been will never be
>>28976502
what in particular, why? And how much can I start with?
Anybody else a Lenin style INTJ with political aims?
Not a commie but I'm a lot like him in that literally everything in life, women, money, friends, all pales in comparison to my love of an intangible political idea.
>>28981843
you're just a complex biological circuit.
all your choices are predetermined since the 'creation' of this world.
