What does /r9k/ think about libertarianism? Is this the best philosophy for robots?
>>28932457
Yes, literally no one can hate on individual liberty, free minds, and free markets
As delusional and dangerous as socialists - just on the other end of the spectrum.
>>28932483
There is literally nothing dangerous about libertarianism, unless you are a moralfag and believe you have a right to decide what other people do with their lives.
>>28933521
Total collapse of a cohesive human society. Now you're going to post a bunch of half-assed >bbbbut not if >but human nature will changee points which require you to live in as big as a fantasy world as socialists.
libertarded skinny white boys with no testosterone are stupid enough to think they're smart, which is the worst kind of awful shit person there is.
libtertarianism doesn't work because it is a sensible, rational model for how human behavior should be in a world where people have means to support themselves at their disposal, while in the real world 99% of what people do isn't rational or sensible and 99% of people don't have the means to support themselves at their disposal.
libertarianism is a boyish, infantile utopia fantasy where everyone makes predictable, correct decisions 100% of the time because they're all rational and wealthy.
in the real world, libertarianism would decay into feudalism in about 3 weeks.
>>28933577
>Total collapse of a cohesive human society
And what is a "cohesive human society" in your minds?
I don't think human society needs to be "cohesive" or "structured" in any way.
Also, there is a difference between anarcho-capitalism (Complete abolition of the state, complete self-government, complete natural order) and mainstream libertarianism (The existence of a minimal state that does not intrude beyond what is absolutely necessary).
Under libertarianism, those who currently have, will have more. Those who currently have little, will have less.
Where does that leave robots?
>no neetbux, no autismbux
>polygamy legalized
>Chad reigns free
>each 1% Chad marries 100 women
>>28933748
>I don't think human society needs to be "cohesive" or "structured" in any way.
If you enjoy having supermarkets full of food, plumbing that brings clean water to your house, and a police force that deters theives from simply murdering you for your wealth, then you actually do think that human society needs to be structured.
Literally everything that you have that is valuable to you is due to cohesiveness and structure in human society. Remove it and we go back to eating bugs from under rocks.
I respect the values of Libertarians generally, and find them to be the most reasonable to talk from other ideologies than my own - but I don't agree with them because I believe the world is prouder, safer, more productive, etc when there's a strong national identity.
Will it be less economically prosperous? Possibly. Will it be less free? Possibly - but when people have a genuinely have a strong sense of belonging and pride for their place in the world, that doesn't matter so much.
Of course there's a limit to how much liberty you'll sacrifice, but I disagree with liberty being the highest value in society.
I can't believe people think it could work. We got rid of the Articles of Confederation for a reason
>>28933609
lol fuck off and go trim your beard naziboo
i know that libertarians are the good guys because both of the predatory human superorganisms (sjw/commies and /pol/lack alt-rightists) hate them
To install nazism we first must destroy the grasp of the current establishment through libertarianism
Mostly agree with it but I am probably closer to a classical liberal than a libertarian. Life is basically worthless without freedom.
>>28932457
I support everything except for their stance on welfare which ideally we shouldn't depend on but in the real world is something that needs to be reformed rather than attacked. However the other idealistic things that libertarians support would work.
Also I don't want to be associated with ancaps like Stephen Molyneux. Proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ha4ea53UGI
>in b4 stephen sperging out in front of your face is "not an argument"
>>28934622
>predatory human superorganisms
you mean extremist groups
advanced feudalism for fedoras
>>28932457
Terrible philosophy for robots, but great for functioning members of society (the majority)
>>28934622
This, if you are not a classical liberal, then you are economically illiterate or a dumb statist fascist. Either way, any kind of collectivism is bad and has to be stopped.
>>28932457
It's "philosophy" for autists.
It is second only to anarcho-capitalism/voluntaryism in terms of logic and rationality.
>>28936549
back to high school with you
>>28932457
Socially liberal/fiscally conservative master race reporting in.
>>28932457
>no neetbux
how the shit is this good for robots?
Libertarianism is a joke philosophy that is as ignorant of human nature as communism. Aryn Rand was both an imbecile and a hypocrite.
>>28936749
Daily reminder that libertarianism is for edgy high schoolers
>>28932457
>Its another libershillian thread
>>28936549
>LOOK AT MAH MADE UP CHART. SEE! NOW MY BRAINDEAD HALF-THOUGHT IS VALIDATED