>"I only started teaching myself to code 3 months ago with no experience whatsoever."
>"I just landed my first dev job earning $45,000" per year!"
>"Its easy to get a job in tech these days! Go for it!!!!"
But thats fucking boring as shit to me
Learning Coding is easier for you Autismos.
Pretty much how I got my job.
>local gamestop was hiring for managers only
>never had a manager postion before, never even worked at a gamestop before
>wear a push up bra under a nice polo shirt so the girls looked really perky
>been manager for nearly 4 years now.
Seriously every time I even jokingly say how I should find a new job I get a small raise and asked to stay.
>>28928464
good for you. how hard was it at first as a manager for the first time in a place you knw nothing about
>>28928522
>>28928464
>>28928427
>>28928402
>missing the point
end yourselves
>>28928255
do you realize anyone can do this even without tits if you wanna be a hard ridden coding bitch in some high cost of living area where 50k is enough for a studio or a 3 hour commute?
some (probably not most) of those coding boot camps are legit
>>28928464
I ain't even salty. I wish I had this advantage tbqh
I wish gender roles got flipped so I could do some cock magic and win some bread nawmsayin
>>28928464
top quality bait there friendo
girls can code too, and if you say otherwise then you're sexist
>>28928464
Tits or get the fuck out of here m'lady.
Tips fedora and stare at your tits...
>>28928593
>String concatenation
>I'm coding guys!
What the fuck? That was literally a footnote of some intro class I took and it looks like it's got its own fucking lesson here.
>>28928593
I don't get what that gibberish is supposed to say/do
Is she coding something stupid?
>>28928593
god damn, do I fucking hate women
>>28928642
Sigh, yes baby. She code dumb code.
>>28928688
What does the dumb dub code do?
>>28928642
Cd means Change Directory. She typed cd code to make it look like she was actually doing something for the photo, but really she was spamming nonsense. The lab lesson in the picture is a simple lab explaining string concatenation, where you take two strings and merge them together. It is basically >>28928675
but without the cat and a really underused computer.
>>28928642
She is trying to get into a directory that doesn't exits (cd code) and go back directory twice (cd ..) but she miss spell it by saying cd.. rather than cd .. And also just type ls that list the directory files.
the software dev industry is so good for women right now. they can get hired by knowing the bare minimum just because they are female.
the industry is full of betas and cucked men
>>28928255
>be recruited to a top-tier software company
>9 guys in the team
>0 womyn
Your argument is invalid.
>>28928675
Men do this just as much if not more than women, don't lie to yourself. Just look for gym pics on facebook.
>>28928642
cd = change directory
cd code = change directory to 'code'
pwd = print working directory
ls = list files in directory
She's just typing shell commands (not coding)
>>28928721
So basically that whole writing is her fucking up this one command (or whatever you call this shit) repeatedly?
>>28928593
Shit like this makes me want to kill myself out of second hand embarrassment
>>28928709
What the other posters said. She's not actually coding. Go learn how to use the terminal program on your computer.
>>28928777
I don't have a computer I only own a smartphone
I've only met 2 good female programmers and they're both MtF trannies
men vs women, I think we all know who the real winner iswomen ;)
Move over, silly boyz! Girls can do STEM, too!
>>28928748
4 commands that isn't really coding. But just stupid shell code I learned the first 3-5 min of my introduction to Linux. And introduction to Linux is only 15 min at max. So she is fucking stuff up you learn in 3 minutes.
>>28928821
>roastie gets roasted.jpg
>>28928820
oopps, sorry I forgot pic
>>28928745
I don't post pictures on FB. I've been making alterations to the same picture of a skeleton in MS paint as a profile picture since october 2014.
>>28928802
Ah, well then. Sadly smartphones don't trigger me so I guess this conversation is at a close.
>>28928593
I've worked with one girl coder in my life, and holy shit was she also the most incompetent one. Basically took me over a year to replace all her barely working garbage with my own code after she left.
>>28928821
he is probably a MtF tranny also.
>>28928838
I don't get it
The code on the right just seems cluttered with pointless filler
I can't code but I can do css and html and isn't that grey shit just notes you take for yourself or whoever it is is looking at the source
I wonder if these people on twitter think you can code just by talking to the thing
>>28928838
>emotes
>frankly stupid and unhelpful notes
>"I'm so random yay"
>"this is the end of the program!"
Kill me now
>>28928838
Wait so the code on the right, if the numbers are equal, will return the number 5? Why?
>>28928897
I seriously hope this is bait
Oregonaldo
>>28928897
Yeah, they're comments. Anything inbetween /* and */ doesn't get parsed by the compiler
>>28928838
>using /**/ for a one line comment
>>28928838
No, that picture is innacurate.
The REAL fast reverse square root (commonly attributed to John Carmack) is actually much more manly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root
It's the fucking profanity that really sells it.
>>28928593
I've worked with several female programmers, and they're as varied as their male counterparts. Some of them produce unintelligible garbage, and others would wipe the floor with 99% of you guys.
>>28928913
It's not bait I'm just legitimately stupid sorry
What did I say that triggered you my friend?
>>28928255
Programming is only hard if you're doing 3d graphics or something actually related to science. Making a dating app or endless runner is not LMAO HBO
>>28928745
>Men do this as much as women
Men do it too but certainly not nearly as much as women.
>>28928745
Alright, I've been baited. Whoever made that photo omitted the original comments. The function the left is called the Fast Inverse Square Root, which uses a magic number to crudely approximate a square root. Contrary to popular belief, Carmack didn't write that code himself. In fact, nobody is sure who originally found that magic number.
here is the original code with commentary:
float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
const float threehalfs = 1.5F;
x2 = number * 0.5F;
y = number;
i = * ( long * ) &y;
// evil floating point bit level hacking
i = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 );
// what the fuck?
y = * ( float * ) &i;
y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) );
// 1st iteration
// y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) );
// 2nd iteration, this can be removed
return y;
}
>>28928838
TOPKEK what the fuck the comments are praising the shittest coding ever, but hate the guy for "stealing nudes" with math code. if (a > b) && (b < a)
>>28928967
That is nothing short of black magic.
>>28928745
No shit they're going to include themselves in gym pics to show their bodies which they've been working on in gyms
>>28928255
women truly have it hard getting a job in tech
>>28928998
If it has a literal genius like Carmack (once called "a brain with legs" as a child by a psychiatrist) confused, you know that's some satanic voodoo going on there.
>>28928998
Isn't that pretty much all coding ever
>>28929049
>all coding
found the art major
>>28928998
They say that some thin white man in an office somewhere sold his soul and sacrificed a goat to avoid dividing
>>28929049
no, lots of coding makes sense and can be derived from mathematical definitions. the definition of fibonacci can be made almost directly into a function that computes it in every language i can think of
>>28929007
She probably got this job by using her social skills entirely.
Fuckkkking normies.
>>28929045
>// what the fuck?
carmack is my hero
>>28929068
I fucking wish
orlarion
>>28928745
Having a gym body means you've actually put in work to be fit. These girls make a completely fake set up just to make it look like they read and enjoy themselves.
>>28928427
not true. Learning the basic logical concepts is easy, learning the abstract design pattern shit is not easy at all. You need a normie mind be good at that kind of thing
t. sperg who gave up on game development
>>28929080
>implying math makes sense
You're killing me over here man
What does math even do
>>28929084
Fact: most companies don't hire socially retarded programmers even if they were talented.
SE is a team sport, insecure autists need not apply.
>>28928998
Have Pajeet demystify it for you.
https://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-quakes-fast-inverse-square-root/
>>28928838
So they're the same, but the girl's one is full of unnecessary annoying shit?
Sounds about right.
>>28929146
They're the same? The girl code doesn't even look like it does anything
>>28929131
>you need a normie mind to learn abstract patterns
u wot m8
All you need is relatively high IQ (110+).
>>28929135
Right, but presumably not ones that don't even know the basics of the language they will be using.
>>28928255
> 3 months
> 90 days
> 10 hours/day
> 900 hours
> $45K/year
> college
> 4 years of classes
> about 2years of "irrelevant requirements"
> about 2years of computer science
> about 180 days/year
> about 3 hours/day
> about 900 hours
> fits into the burocracy
> learned how to be likeable
> not racist/misogynist at work
> taught by experts in the field
> spent $60k for the degree
> rated by the burocracy based on merit
> $60k-80k/year starting
I don't really hate women/ feminists for raping the relationship market. It's selfish and disgusting but not an evil that deserves serious malice. It's pretty much just a con and I don't have any reason to hate a scammer that doesn't affect me. I do however hate them for destroying the job/ education prospects of men. I see how easily utterly incompetent chicks around me get jobs that I can only dream of while I'm better and more qualified and I always wonder how we keep letting them get away with destroying the livelyhood of men and swaying employment way in their favor. I am so fucking salty.
>>28929140
looks neat. wish i had a high IQ to understand any of it
>>28928255
I've learned how to code in java for 2 years at my high school
there is never any job application for black male in the coding world...
>>28929146
>they're the same
No they are not. One is an ugly hack of a function that solves an actual problem, and the other is a function with a willfully introduced bug and redundant logic.
Please learn to shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about.
>>28929168
I've got a high IQ and I could not write a >10,000LOC game the 'proper OOP way' without it just being more of a mess and unmaintainable than if I hadn't bothered trying at all
>>28929080
Yeah this is true, what makes the Fast Inverse Square Root so unusual is that someone was thinking in some next level MLG way. They spent hours and hours of their life coding it and even more hours finding that magic number. It is usually bad form to use a magic number because it can make code harder to read. But someone really needed to crunch square roots and didn't give a shit.
>>28928575
this
#originalasfuckcomment
>>28929184
Certainly, but one should take stories one hears on the interwebs with a grain of salt.
>1) why would anyone just go and lie on the Internet?
>2) Just because someone posted a picture of a bagel online that looks like Jesus, doesn't mean such bagels are common
>>28928838
The larger of 10 and 10 is 5
>>28929140
I want to cry because I don't understand any of this at all
>>28928838
Code on left defines the answer as a result of some unnecessary math problem. It wastes memory and is inefficient. It will break down when large numbers or long floating point decimals are used.
Code on right uses predefined functions. It is faster, and therefore better.
>>28929314
What do they do though
>>28929146
The ones code is working out the square root(Right).
The other one is working out the max (Left) between two numbers a and b.
if (b > a)
return b
else
return a
But she said this shit if (a > b && b < a) that contradicts each other. And then also returned a 5 that would always happen if a < b. So would only work when a is 5 and b is smaller than five.
And her comments(information about the program) is written like girl talk.
>>28929243
That's probably because you have no theoretical understanding, knowhow, experience or any point of reference.
I too have high IQ, and I could write a game like that, but I can't pass organic chemistry 301 for the same reasons you can't write the game.
>Read
>Review/contribute to FOSS projects
>Git gud
>???
>Profit!
>>28929314
You are a fucking retard, see>>28928935
>>28929335
Lol I didn't even read them
>>28928255
Serious question
Is it hard to learn coding and make a living out of it? I know virtually nothing about computers so just curious if I could make it.
>>28929314
>int max(int a, int b)
>returns a magic number if a - b = 0
>better
k
>>28929336
return (a > b) ? a : b;
>>28929118
Chad genetics + roids + 3 short gym sessions a week doing bench and curls whilst snapchatting qts and listening to your Beats.
>>28928821
That's a tranny baby
>>28929336
>But she said this shit if (a > b && b < a) that contradicts each other. And then also returned a 5 that would always happen if a < b. So would only work when a is 5 and b is smaller than five.
Literally none of this is true.
I hate this
I had an interview last friday for a developer position and right when I got there the previous interviewee walked out
it was a pretty 20 year old girl
so now I know whatever I said, I have no chance of getting the job
>>28929400
>ternary operators
No.
>>28929400
Yes sorry I thought in generic coding rather than C. In what languages is that possible to do it like that?
>>28929445
Most of them.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F:
>>28929445
That looks like Java shorthand
This was supposed to be a woman hate thread. Fucking aspies turn it into a deep math debate
>>28929437
Ternary is normally a no if it isnt something as simple as that
One day when I have a little money I'm going to commission a multi-player game. It will be a 3rd person shooter with cute girls doing cute things and rpg influence with a low level cap. Lots of cute items to give delicious Stat bonuses. Basically it will be cosmic break done right. After that I will take donations no keep server afloat and do quarterly updates. I won't waste time on stupid story bullshit. There will be a loose canon and lore but the game will be pvp for 90% of it.
If I can get 50 players on at peak it will be worth it. Also I will try to reward chatting somehow because I want to socialize like a good little normie.
I like it when retards who don't know anything about code think that women can't code just because a funny image makes a woman coder look stupid.
If you can't code yourself you have no right to laugh at bad code of others, you hypocritical cucks.
>>28929381
First language is the most difficult to , learning others imilar languages isn't as difficult. The real difficulty in learning multiple languages is when you change the 'type'. There's low level languages like assembly and C that are the bridge between between the hardware and software. Then there's higher level languages that are purely software driven. Within the higher level languages there's different languages for application development, web development, server, etc..
>>28929419
What isn't true?
> if (a > b && b < a)
Where will this not contradict each other?
What values?
> if (a < b) //will work for values a < b
> else if (a > b && b < a) // OK IS SEE MY MISTAKE THAT IS THE SAME CODE
REEEEE!!
> else
> return 5 \\would never execute
>>28929554
>women can't code
Please tell me who here is suggesting this? The point is that standards for women coders are far lower than men coders.
>>28929569
>a > b
is (almost) the same as
>b < a
They don't contradict each other, they are functionally the same.
It WILL return 5 if both numbers are equal, which is why it's fucking useless as a max(a,b) function.
>>28929567
Lua isn't hard to get into.
>>28928919
Well...the compiler parses comments, actually (it needs to know that these are comments and they won't be used in the compilation), however it happens during the pre-processing phase, so very early in the pipeline.
>>28929626
Finish reading. To lazy to delete my mistakes. Yeah that is true. It isn't useless as a max(a,b); As long as they are never equal.
>>28929686
> It isn't useless as a max(a,b); As long as they are never equal.
I'm pretty sure that's a massive gaping hole in the function right there.
>>28929735
>It's random yay :D
>>28928721
>not aliasing cd..
kek
>>28929314
they both dont use predefined functions and how does the code on the left waste memory? the math problem is not unnecessary also.
the code on the right is useless, its some exercise for absolute beginners, if compiler optimization is not implied its also stupid code. nobody would create a function for a single if statement with two numbers.
This isn't really coding, but I remember taking a Web Page Design course in high school where you had to write in HTML to make your web pages. I sat inbetween two girls and holy fuck like every other minute they asked me to help them, and whatever the fuck they wrote was garbage. One just decided to fail altogether
Gonna learn how to code in Python over the course of this summer, then do C++ and Java after.
I only wonder how to prove to employers that I can code without a portfolio to back it up. And for a portfolio I need creative ideas, which I don't have because I am an uncreative fuck.
>>28929629
In certain cases, I've just done a lot with serial communication, storing data to RAM, running timers which higher level languages aren't good for. Higher level languages are definitely useful though if you are dealing with something where hardware and code efficiency isn't all that important then something like Lua is definitely extremely useful.
>>28929925
> be you code python
> go to deep web
> learn hacking
> hack USA bank or FBI
> go to jail
> get job after jail for your hacking skills.
No portfolio further needed. And loose virginity in jail.
>>28930011
lol fucking anon
>>28928821
Isn't that a yet another stock photo?
>>28928835
secret kek desu
>>28928912
> Why?
> because I'm so random yay :D
Learn how to read you dumbass.
>>28929968
c is for hardware close programming
> in 10 years time tech will just be women and trannies
>>28929243
There are two sides to programming a large project.
The first is the ability to understand and create complex algorithms. Finding inverse squares quickly is a great example of this that's mentioned all over this thread. There are other stuff like sorting and pathfinding that you should get good at too. A large part, however, is thinking up algorithms that nobody has ever done before. Being smart helps, but you can actually get better just through practice and experience (contrary to popular belief).
The second part is thinking of how your algorithms should fit together in the grand scheme of your program. Think of a program as a bunch of little puzzle pieces that you have to put together. Honestly, this is the harder part. This is the part that you spend awake thinking about. There is no mathematical way to solve it. Designing software basically becomes more of an art than a science at this point. You can dissect somebody's algorithm and tell them that another way will use half of much memory and process twice as quickly, but you can't really do this with software design. Decisions break down to "well choice A seems more intuitive and flexible and is not that hard to extend, but choice B would be far easier to extend even though it's less intuitive and flexible". Intelligence helps with this part too, but the only way to truly learn is to make several bad decisions and then look back and understand why they were bad.
>>28929925
>get hired
>without a portfolio
loving every laff m8
>>28929925
Contribute to FOSS, somehow. I hear this thrown around a lot but I myself am minimally experienced and I feel like I'd probably just fuck up a FOSS by contributing to it.
>>28929925
You can mess around with an open source project.
>>28930156
>tfw I was hired solely based on what I said in the interview and my Linkedin account
I don't even have a college degree. All I did was I told them what I had done at the previous company (of which they had zero proof) and I was hired the next day.
>>28930208
Didn't they ask for references? That would be the proof.
>>28928255
>women self teaching themselves
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>28930156
I know. Ideally I should just create some applications, and keep making them more and more complex in random ways to show I can do shit. Maybe I can do something about my biochemical knowledge.
>>28930180
>>28930187
I've thought this too but I feel like you would need to be really experienced already to actually start contributing to such projects, not least have expert knowledge of some other field.
>>28930221
I thought they would, too, but they did not.
>>28930208
Depends what company and position
>that cs student who wanted to go into the gaming industry
>that C average cs student who thinks he is superior to everyone
>>28930180
>I feel like I'd probably just fuck up
That's why there are code reviews. If your code is not up to the standard, you typically are given some feedback and the chance to revise your changes.
Bottome line is, just give it a try. There are SOO many projects that can use some contributions. :)
>>28930328
>pic and filename related
$60k/yr starting for 40 hours a week is fine for me.
>>28930405
I want to contribute and have some skills but diving into the codebase is too overwhelming. I wouldn't even know where to start
>>28930417
Yeah, but what is the position and company? It's a bit hard to believe
I have zero programming knowledge beyond basic HTML which I learnt in the early 2000s.
I can't grasp even basic algebra let alone calc. I don't even know my times tables. I am a mathematical dunce in every sense.
My IQ is national average.
I have the attention span of a goldfish and have been unemployed for 8 years
I want to create a 3D physics engine. Where do I start?
>>28930477
>Software engineer
A startup with a few hundred people on board. I'd give myself away if I said more.
But thanks, I appreciate the compliment.
>>28930517
try killing yourself and hoping that you reincarnate as someone smarter
>>28930517
Learn to fix your attention span. I'd say that's a good start
>>28930443
True, true, that often happens. And there really isn't any easy way around that. You just have to read, and read, and read, and get familiar with the codebase. Depending on the type of project that might be a relatively easy task, but it often isn't.
Depending on the source language, you might be able to use various helping tools. An IDE with good isualisation of the project structure may be invaluable. If that's not applicable, just try working top-down (or bottom-up), i.e. start with the topmost (bottommost) piece of code (e.g. the code that initialises or starts the application) and work your way down (up), exploring the codebase.
>>28930517
>I am a mathematical dunce in every sense.
>I want to create a 3D physics engine.
You're fucked. Try writing a 2D pendulum simulator on a canvas in JS
>protip: you need calculus
>>28930559
I was a female STEM graduate in my previous incarnation
>>28930576
>>28930443
Look up bug reports that were fixed fast. It's most likely they were easy tasks. There's your way in.
And oh yeah, don't expect to spend any less than several days reading the codebase to figure out anything significant. You're not stupid, that's just how it works.
>>28930537
>I'd give myself away if I said more.
Doubt it. You're not as important as you think you are. But damn anon, good job on obtaining that position. I'm curious as what language you use at work and how in the hell you even got that position.
>>28930607
keep trying anon, one life you will make it
>>28930639
And prior to that I was a nigger so I'm getting somewhere
>>28930588
calculus isn't hard. I'm a fucking nog and I can do it. Only the algebra involved is hard. He can probably do it
>>28930657
You're getting there, just a few more bullets to the brain
>>28930663
I'm currently working on Grade 4 Math on Khan Academy. I never got the fundamentals down and my attention span prevented me catching up when things started getting harder.
I literally can't do algebra, calc, trig, any of it. I don't even know what Pi means or how to measure a circumference, basic shit like that.
>>28928838
You guys realize this is probably just a guy pretending to be a girl, right? Or just a girl trolling. The code on the right is obviously written as a joke.
>>28930633
>You're not as important as you think you are.
I'm a nobody, sure, but I don't want myself to be traced to this forum later on in life (believe me, there are ways to tell).
>But damn anon, good job on obtaining that position.
Thanks.
>I'm curious as what language you use at work and how in the hell you even got that position.
I wrote Python and JS before (no experience in Java), and I was hired to write Java and JS. In other words, web software.
The technical interview included an hour of diving into what and how I had written before. I was able to demonstrate in-depth understanding of common design patterns and software engineering processes. That on top of a burning passion for my field and decent social skills sealed the deal.
>>28930715
what the fuck? You have average IQ and you can't do algebra? I thought I was shit at math but gaddamn. Go ahead and try it if you want. I recommend you learn math all year around.
>>28928838
Tbh left could use a reference to whatever the fuck it's doing because I don't immediately see how that arbitrary shift approximates a sqrt
I've totally seem girls do that code on the right>>28929049
>>28930779
I think my reasoning skills and pattern recognition are pretty good. I'm also creative as fuck, not that left brainers accept that kind of thing as intelligence (and yes, I know maths is very abstract and creative at higher levels)
>>28930771
>common design patterns
I have zero knowledge of this
>>28928847
Please post a sample, that sounds great.
>>28930889
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns#Patterns_by_Type
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_paradigm
or in more general
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_design_patterns
Something to get you started. Don't be afraid to download ebooks online and actually read them.
>>28930889
>>28930986
>protip: a lot of that is domain-specific, so you'll want to decide what kind of software you want to get into before reading all that
>>28928464
>manager of GameStop
Fucking GameStop
Honestly not so mad at that kind of thing. I'd much rather hire someone who knows nothing than someone that's tainted by college. And it's not rare to have that opinion in the industry either. Look at what they're saying about degrees.
There's a lack of qualified people because the paths to get you there are getting no attention.
I don't even think programming would be hard if people just gave it a real try.
>>28929479
Eh I'd rather waste time debating math than hating on women for I can actually solve the math but not the obnoxious behaviors of roasties.
>>28931090:^) :^) :^)nice bait, expect many (You)s
>>28931235
Thanks anon. It is indeed a nicepost.
Glad you appreciate it.
Dunno about good old 'murica but in France you would never get hired if you don't have a diploma (as a dev, don't even dream of being a software "engineer" lol)
And I know that senior software engineers here get great pay from american companies.
Just get your diploma.
How come nobody ever gives any useful advice on how to learn to program
>go to codeacademy
I did, and I've started, but nothing I'm doing feels like it has any context
>>28931337
Get a degree in CS.
>>28931090
Exactly. Look at the best programmers of our time. Bill Gates is a college dropout, as is Linus Torvalds.
>>28931411
Good one, a buddy of mine who has a few years Comp security told me to learn visual basic and fuck CodeAcademy that its a bad place to start.
>>28928593
This hurts me to my very core.
>>28931438
Yeah ignoring those piss poor examples. Sure. Dropouts do well because they realize they go beyond the pack.
But that's really not what you should focus on. The problems were having is that college kids are taught retarded shot like OOP. It just ruins them.
>>28931438
>Bill Gates is a college dropout
The guy has the IQ of 160. That's not exactly your average 4channer.
All this talk of a million tech jobs skill shortage by 2020. Thats not legit, right? It doesn't apply to entry level stuff alone?
If its the case then every fucking NEET on this board should be self-studying code like crazy right now
But for women, niggers, queers etc, like every other industry you literally just have to not be retarded to land a great career track with minimal effort
>>28928255
wtf i have made 3 android apps and i cant find a job anywhere. i dont have a college degree
>>28931438
>Bill Gates is a college dropout,
who had rich as fuck parents. Do you realize how expensive computers were back then? They were like helicopters. The whole "lol dropouts can do anything" meme ignores that these exceptions almost always have powerful families to get them what they want. No to mention that Shill Gates stole tons of ideas from Xerox
>>28931438
The richest man on the planet and one of the most gifted programmers and businessmen of the past century dropped out of college.
Therefore, every college dropout is gonna make it
>>28931588
>one of the most gifted programmers
just a myth
the rest is true, tho
>>28928464
it was likely a marketing thing
in a place like gamestop, guys want to see girls just existing and girls want to see girls in manager positions
If I may add to what I said earlier, in France there's a new school named "42", which was created by a mobile/internet operator. Basically, people without degrees can come there and be put to test on their coding skills. If you make it you're hired.
>>28930144
Programming is fun because it's a puzzle that you not only solve but also create.
>>28931635
Generally, girls hate working with other girls. All-women or mostly-women environments are awful. I'm a guy and don't have personal experience about it, but every girl I know who has worked in such a place has hated it. They very much prefer working in a place where there are mostly males.
>>28931681
This kind of practice we'll see more and more imo because of the lack of devs
>>28931030
better than being a normal employee
>>28931748
They must love to be oppressed, lul
>>28931627
and don't forget all the shit is stole from Xerox when founding Microsoftdick. He's literally an Edison tier copycat
>>28931809
Nah, it's not that, just the opposite. Girls are mean. Vicious. Catty. In an all-women work environment there is nothing but petty scheming against each other. Men are more straightforward about bringing up how they don't like someone, but their problems can usually be solved by beers after work, and won't lead to an endless cycle of backstabbing and petty scheming.
This is what every girl who has worked in such a place tells me.
>>28931798
women are like blacks
>AYO HOL UP U WEARIN RED? DIE NIGGA
*gunshots*
>Is that bitch wearing a red top. You're going down!
*spills coffee on the bitch*
>>28931868
was obviously meant for
>>28931798
Sorry about that.
>>28931809
If I remember correctly, Jobs also used to dig through the trash of big IT companies and read code they've thrown out.
Accidentaly, some of that code ended up in his programmes.
>>28931411
Got one and am NEET now lmao
How would you prove that you can code?
Wouldn't they ask for a degree?
>>28932048
Yep. It went this way : Jobs stole shit from Xerox, Gates stole shit from Jobs. When Jobs confronted Bill Gates about stoling his shit Bill reminded him that he had stolen everything from Xerox to begin with so he should gtfo.
Women have easier lives. It's not fair. Only a cuck would contribute to such unfair society.
>>28932109
Not really. Women have more people in the average lives but men have 100% of the top lives.
>>28932155
Top few % men have better lives than the rest of the world. But average women have much better lives than average men. And that goes double for women who get into cs. They never do shit in the uni and just let the whiteknights do their work for them. It's a scam.
>>28932090
Do stuff on github.
>>28932198
I know how they get their degree that way. What boggles my mind is how they actually get hired in a technical position.
Btw I met women who can code, 90% of them with a degree can't though.
>>28932304
Yeah same here. I've met some who were much smarter than me actually. But honestly you don't need to actually do your job. Thanks to halo effect, if you are attractive female(somewhat) people will let you get away with not working.
>>28928255
it might be sort of a maybe once in a million thing that happens when you are both a very hot chick and you learn quickly, but this is some nonsense.
first of all, it really is easy to get a job in tech as it's rising quickly relative to other fields. and far more likely you will have an advantage as a guy because that's just the culture in most of tech today. girls aren't really taken seriously, and HR/managers knows that most likely you won't fit in. fitting in is 90% of the job interview in tech, because anybody and their mother can write code.
second, 45k is pretty small time. anybody with a bachelors should be making that minimum, even writers/editors.
third, if you have no job, you're just a fucking loser. there's no excuse about vaginas in the world for you at that point. if you're better than all of these other employees but are not accepted, you would be a fucking idiot not to start your own company and BTFO them all. but you are an idiot after all, and also a shitty employee.
>>28931438
>tfw you write what you think is clever bait and none of the (You)s call out your trolling
>>28931512
>>28931526
>>28931563
>>28931588
Linus Torvalds is not a college dropout. He has a PhD in computer science FFS.
>>28930517
>I want to create a 3D physics engine.
Just use a premade engine unless you want to spend a few years learning Maths and Physics before you even start learning programming
>>28929131
Maybe you didn't make it because you gave up?
>>28930517
Nobody creates 3D physics engines these days except for the rare few professionals. Learn to use Unreal 4 instead.
>>28931337
Because the only people giving you advice are people who can't code but want to seem intelligent by giving you advice.
Fucking codeacademy. No one competent would ever suggest that. It's the Duolingo of the programming world
You need a good, comprehensive book that teaches the fundamentals of programming. Which one depends on the language you want to learn
>>28931535
Automation is going to reduce that figure significantly. There's no long term future in coding. Except the people maintaining the automation, which is going to be a very small field of people with 20+ years coding experience.
>>28932201
Just make sure you don't have any comments or variables deemed "problematic" or they'll remove your code.and possibly ban you
SJW cunts
>>28932587
Never underestimate the demand for legacy programmers. Even today, banks still employ COBOL programmers. They are 50-60 year old guys that know how to program COBOL and no one else can. COBOL is still quite widely used in banks, in systems that are decades old and aren't easily replaced.
>>28932587
>tfw just got automation programming job
I've only got about 1 year of experience in automation, but this feels good man.
when i was in high school there we're two girls in my apcs class. both got internships and fucking like huge scholarships for being females in stem, but they couldn't code for shit. they would just ask the boys for help and useless beta orbiters would do everything for them
fuck women, disgusting subhumans
>>28932587
this meme is like 40 years old buddy, c'mon now get a grip.
>>28932624
There was an ad around here from a bank looking for a COBOL programmer. AFAIK, only 3 people applied to it. Crazy.
>>28932679
That 60-year old grey-bearded COBOL programmer wearing sweatpants to work can demand some crazy salaries.
>>28929499
Tell me more about your idea?
Have you got a plan with numbers?
>>28928821
>safety squints down
More: http://imgur.com/gallery/cG7hF
>>28931337
Go to /g/'s daily programming thread
>>28929084
Not even. We have diversity quotas thanks to feminism now.
Because there's almost no women in tech, most if not all women get hired almost immediately.
Thanks feminism, for a sexist world in which 'women are bad at tech jobs' is literally a stereotype becoming true.
>>28928255
I know how to do basic coding I just don't know what to do with this skill
I'd code something for somebody for free if it wasn't too complicated, just to practice
And also because coding is real fun to me
>>28932624
Fucking hell, how much can a COBOL expert earn these days if the demand is there?
>>28933146
They also get good discounts on bootcamps and are virtually guaranteed to make any cohort thanks to being a female
But I'd still rather be a FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>28928555
Nobody that learned to code three months ago has a job making $45,000 per year. Companies don't care about your skills on paper. They care about experience.
t. HR rep that helps with the hiring process
>tfw graduated with a degree in CS over 2 years ago
>tfw still haven't found a permanent job
as a dropout neet should I learn to code? it isn't exactly my main interest and i'm shit at math but it could crossover with stuff i'm interested in. maybe be able to get some work online?
i hate coding i know small amount from school-HTML and flash
>went to school for multimedia
>mom finds out that a coworker's daughter is in one of my classes
>she is a robot
>she ends up getting a good job graphic design or something
>i get shit
>bad brain genes
>>28933538
I was the one that posted about the COBOL ad. I distinctly remember the ad mentioned that the bank was willing to negotiate on the wage and they seemed to be looking to pay 45$ an hour. Take it with a grain of salt.
>Felt anxious and bad
>Got new job
>Don't feel anxous or bad
Must have hated that job more than I thought . New job is better and more money, feels good nigga
>>28933823
$45? Pitiful. I thought they'd be commanding ridiculous sums for their expertise. There is literally no one else to do the job. And especially as its banks that are employing those guys
>>28933721
which languages ?
>>28934011
It was a fair amount of time ago so the numbers could totally be off. I doubt the applicants were dumb enough not to negotiate knowing how badly the bank needed them.
>>28934137
Java, Python, and JavaScript
I don't mind using other languages, I have used languages like C#, Scheme, and many more.
>>28928838
>(a>b && b<a)
Jesus christ, The only coding ive ever done is small scripts for Fallout new vegas but that part man
>>28931337
Id be willing to give you rather intense tutoring. If you're actually willing to learn and have a similar sleep cycle.
[email protected]
>>28934237
Pretty coveted languages with all the apps hype atm, not sure why you don't have a stable job.
>>28928255
got a job using javascript and I have a philosophy degree
does that count?
>Go to college for programming
>Think it's really neat
>Do some good work for people in my co-ops but the work was kind of easy
>Get a real job
>Completely and totally fucking clueless on everything
I figure that I'm just inexperienced but I'm struggling to pick up new concepts that I feel I should get pretty easily, considering that they're alike to things I did in college.
I'm trying to practice on my own time, but I learn at such a slow pace that I don't even know if this is worth it anymore.
Worst part is is that this is the only thing that I'm 'good' at. I just want to make it.
>>28934447
idk either. I send out applications, rarely get any responses back. I am even applying to companies at tech hubs. My last experience was only an internship, because according to them they don't hire people who haven't interned with them. At the end, they didn't want to hire me, though I didn't want it because they made me do software test engineering.
>>28928821
>Holding the scalding hot part of the soldering iron
Classic.
>>28930951
Here's my spring Skelly. It's gotten to the point where I don't have to do new ones, I just cycle. Through by season.
>>28934540
which country are you from ? Never seen a company impose an intership, just wtf.
a software engineer with 2 years experience should be swimming in job offers.
>>28928593
>("hello","world")
lmao
>>28934704
USA
Ya, it was weird to me too, everyone thought I was a student and they would be why am I an intern then. I was desperate to find something because months after graduating and I still couldn't find anything.
I don't have 2 years experience, it was a 6 month internship. The was the only job I had after graduating. My previous experience was being a researcher for my university though.
>>28928593
Without sounding like a whiteknight, it's possible to give her the benefit of the doubt, and she took a dumb screenshot of a bad time. That screen looks like something I do when I've had 6 beers and keep fucking up writing into the commandline.
Maybe she was just drunk. Or a dumb attentionwhore. Or both.
>>28928593
What makes me mad here is the thirsty white knight faggots in the comments
>You are such a hero!
what?
>Wow, I'm really impressed.
Then you're a dumb piece of shit
>You're such a pioneer
Is this fucking bait?
>>28928593
fucking kek, just what did you expect anon ?
>>28934838
Above the console where she kept triggering errors over and over again, she wrote a function to connect two words together.
It is the most pointless code I've ever seen. Its just there to look like she's doing something.
Let me show you what shes doing:
Function connect_words(word1,word2){
new_string = word1+word2
output new_string
}
//the code above connects two words together and outputs it XD
Thats it. Thats fucking it. Everything about that shot is retarded.
>>28935220
>>28934838
to simply even more: shes simply doing word1 + word2 = "word1word2"
>like the idea of being a programmer
>going to college for something other than cs so that option is pretty much closed to me
>>28934803
I sent around 100 apps before I got a job. I live in California though
>>28935345
>option is closed
Programming isn't hard. Could do it on your spare time (which you do have, since you're here).
>>28935354
Did you find a job locally or did you relocate to the bay area or even already lived there?
>>28935521
I was already living there for college so it was probably a lot easier for me
>>28935617
damn, I am living on the opposite side of the US so it seems a lot harder.
>>28935345
its easy silly. Just watch how easy it is to add two numbers:
Add_Numbers(x,y)
{
..loadMathLib();
..//store numbers in array
..for(i=0;i<1;i++){
....if(in_array(x,numList)){
........numList[]=x
....}else{
........numList[]=y
....}
..}
..if(checkInt(numList[0])==true){
......if(checkInt(numList[y])==true){
..........z=math.ADD(numList[x],numList[y])
......}
..}
..return z;
}
EZ PZ
>>28935676
This launches the missiles at random.
if (MathUtil::RandomFloatInRange(0.0,100.0)<1.5)
//if (timeToSpawn<0)//changed to random.
{
this->timeToSpawn=spawnTime;
Vector2 position=this->theTarget->GetPosition();
Vector2 AtAngel=MathUtil::VectorFromAngle(MathUtil::ToDegrees(MathUtil::AngleFromVector(theTarget->Nav.Direction)+MathUtil::RandomFloatInRange(-MathUtil::Pi/2,MathUtil::Pi/2)));
theWorld.Add(new Missile(theTarget,position-AtAngel*20.0));
}
It REALLY isn't hard and I'm sick of how people pretend it is.
>>28935676
I really miss
>input x
>input y
>let z = x + y
>print z
>>28935676
delet this at once
