Anyone get frustrated with a certain other image board? One where the rules say don't talk about the time you went on a date or kissed a girl, which is fine and dandy but if you even so much as admit that you once had an interest in that, it's instant banhammer. Where else is there for people like us to go?
Not there?
Why go to a place where you're not welcome and get mad about their rules?
Dubchan?
>>28926589
I'm not mad about their rules, just about the fact that they're so overeager in enforcing it that they boot people who didn't explicitly violate them.
You ever try 8ch? They have their own version of /r9k/.
>>28926616
well the just dont mention it problem solved
>>28926658
Example though: I mentioned I was mad at a female from my past. They assume she was my girlfriend and kick me, when in reality it was only that she made up some bullshit that got me fired from a job I was content at. I guess the mere mention of women is enough.
>>28926572
I personally think that the whole volcel concept is retarded. The reality is that most people there are incels whether they admit it or not.
>>28926689
>I guess the mere mention of women is enough.
So? Don't mention women then.
>>28926868
Exactly. If you've got someone talking about their make-out session with Stacy or the time they got a BJ in an alley, then yeah those people should go. But they've gotten to be so elitist about the incel thing that unless you literally never in your whole life cared about sex (which is pretty much nobody in history), it doesn't even matter where you are today. It's a great place with some interesting ideas, but they need to stop taking things so seriously.
>>28926936
Oh I won't, believe me. When I finally go back, officially women do not exist or they are the spawn of Satan.
Captcha: 666
Everybody in this thread needs to stay on r9k where they fucking belong
>>28927300
I don't belong here, with the 18 and early 20 somethings who are still pining for relationships. I should be with my own kind, but I have to pick and choose my words very carefully or risk offending somebody who is pretending to be some kind of celibate saint.
>>28927344
Your kind is not welcome. Stay on r9k you repulsive normalshit
I hope you were permabanned
>>28927403
Why? Because once I was 18 and held hands with someone? Why don't they just make the rules say: "volcel only"?
that place is normie as fuck nowadays, if you still manage to get banned then you really do not belong there. Perhaps there is a facebook group or subreddit for what you're looking for OP
>>28927448
No there isn't. I'm 30, and I have no interest in sex anymore. I fit in there just fine for the most part, but if you're one word out of line it's the cooler for you. I feel like technically I broke no rule, and yet somebody jumped the gun on things because they had a personal objection or misunderstood something I said. I like that they actually have some moderation there, and it often improves the quality of overall content, but my god they can be strict in interpreting the rules. I know I'm not the only one who must feel that way.
>>28927448
/threaddomo arigato
>>28927588
OK Mr. Roboto, but if they spent more time moving normie-troll threads to the lounge or deleting them than attacking people who are actually wizards, the place would probably do a lot better.
>>28927539
the mods are non-virgin normans who basically came into power by succeeding at the social game of forming cliques in the IRC and taking over from the inactive norman who ousted another norman who since became the archetypal uberchad. It's just normies being normies, I wouldn't worry about it anon. You might as well get mad at every injustice you experience in life.
>>28927780
I'm just disappointed and saddened by it, because I was actually trying to help someone at the time, and it is maybe the one place where I feel like I actually fit in. Now I get to sit around contemplating the hell of my life, and no one to talk to about it but the tide of summerfags that will come crashing down on every other imageboard.
>>28926572
Bro, you need to learn the difference between de jure and de facto.
Not a fan of the 'true wiz' mentality either. It's a decent board but I feel that the rules severely limit what you can and cannot post.
If you incel faggots want your own site then make one. Don't try and change a perfectly good volcel community to be the opposite of what makes it so food.
>>28927852
there'll never be a place for people like us anon, the normies will always eventually come and ruin it. I find it's best to not get emotionally invested, think of it as just another normalfag board, for a subject that you happen to relate to. You don't get mad when you see some guy on /int/ or /g/ talk about having a gf, after all.
>>28927867
I am the de facto criteria for a wizard, and I opted out of every relationship I ever had. How does that not meet both standards? I think it was just that someone had a personal objection or did not understand correctly what I was implying. I was a mod once on a forum too, an administrator as well one I helped create, and you have to stop and think before banning someone whether it's really justified, or whether you're acting on impulse and emotion. At the end of the day, this is what sets a good mod apart from the rest, and for instance why WT Snacks is no longer active on this website. I know what I'm talking about here. They really should loosen the reigns a bit, but it could be worse. I agree with most of their decisions.
>>28926572
That place is fascinating to me. I cannot wrap my mind around being so sad, pathetic and broken that a place like that can exist.
I find it ironic that the one thing they try and say they've abandoned (any hope for being in a romantic relationship ) is what defines them. There are plenty of male communities where women and relationships are never spoken of, they talk about everything else but they can because they're not broken human-rejects.
The part that invites scorn is they're uninterested in improving themselves. They prefer to just wallow in self pity and be pathetic. Something inherently anathema to being a true man.
>>28928043
why are you talking about something you obviously don't know anything about?
>>28928099
I've been to the site, so I think I do know what I'm talking about. I understand it's unpleasant to hear an answer you don't like. But it's true. Wizards here and elsewhere are defined by the roasties they proclaim to despise. That's their identity. "Can't get laid".
Which is why the website needs to make the rule that you can't talk about how much that girl at starbucks only takes your mumbling order instead of asking you on a date right there in line (roastie whore! Reeeee etc). Because otherwise that's all they'd talk about.
>>28928174
In my opinion, women are such a touchy subject there you are best not mentioning them at all, even when someone else makes a thread about it.
>>28928005
I'm not going after you. I wanted to point out that on that chan they simply have a culture of being ban-happy which is surprising considering normals are in charge there. If you want to not get banned, you just have to play it safe. I don't agree with their true wiz volcel reasoning, but the site is already dying because of normalfags from /r9k/. I find this place to be more comfy despite the shit we have to deal with.
>>28928174
>That's their identity. "Can't get laid".
>>28926616
Maybe they just dont want 3DPD loving normalshits like you there
I hope you fucking stay gone forever.
>>28926572
They have a great board because they enforce their rules. This board is garbage because normalshits gays trannies and cucks spam their posts and get away with it.
Over there nobody has to deal with the shit we have to.
Can't wait to migrate.
>>28926572
Don't break the rules then.
>>28926689
Ultimately it's their downfall. If they keep banning people who don't deserve to be banned they're slitting their own throats.
You have to understand that in mid/late 2015 there was a lot of talk on this board about banning "normies" and creating a safe space for actual robots. You can see that the plan doesn't work out as well as in theory because being too quick to ban people reduces the number of quality posts on the board/forum. The mods know this and Chis knew this which is why so much shitposting is tolerated. Giving freedom to the users is ultimately a better model for creating a community.
>>28928447
this
the whole point of 4chan is wading through shit to find good stuff
if you remove all the shit, you get a slow, boring, static, stale website
>>28928421
This
r9k sucks now
It was better when it was just school shooters and angry virgins bitching about how much they hate normies and females
No trap threads back then
>>28928351
They have good threads though for the most part, even so. Certain boards of 4chan have always enjoyed a great deal of freedom compared to most places on the Internet, but then you have the complete opposite here where people abuse that by flooding a board with topics that are in the wrong section or where shitposting just runs rampant. It can be very difficult to find good content sometimes.
>>28926868
Volcel and asexuals simply do not exist.
Even people who have been castrated get sexual urges (though very rare), or at least the fleeting mental images.
All volcels are incel - anyone who's gotten their balls chopped off, even priests, even the pope.
>>28928481
It was better when we at least had an identity. We were the beta uprising, we had our own memes, it worked as sort of a template where it was easy to tell people who didn't fit to fuck off.
Now you get people who are completely fucking normal posting about relationship problems then defending their kind when we call them out on it.
You got cuck threads everywhere.
Lgbt threads everywhere
Soc face threads everywhere
Women worship threads everywhere
The only intact meme are the wagecuck/neethtreads
But people seem too fucking ashamed to even talk about tendies anymore. Tendies are fucking amazing.
I wish we had mods who would at least get rid of all the garbage here. Even these porn and penis threads are out of control.
>>28928447
I don't know man, the criteria are pretty straighforward
>>28928589
Yeah, there has got to be a middle ground somewhere. Where you've got obvious cases of trolling or other things that violate Global Rule #3, applying outside of /b/. Well, that should include /r9k/. Some of that stuff should go, I agree.
>>28928469
>slow boring static website
It's better to see for thread up the next day for a discussion than seeing some boipussy or camwhoring tranny threads push it out.
As someone who browsed x before any other board they had great pacing and if a thread was really good it went fast.
>>28928671
Exactly. I see people post threads of something different all the time, my 1 or 2 replies to it are meaningless when people would rather photograph their fucking dicks and complain. What the fuck? Stop it already. r9k was never as maladaptive as it has become today. Now if literally encourages porn addictions, become a tranny, cucking yourself, being loyal to females, and blaming yourself for ever aspect of your life and to just beee yourself bro
People with serious problems come here all the time, can barely post about it because no replies. People support degeneracy for no reason. I remember when tfw no gf didn't even have virgin or qt attatched to it. But at the end of the day we are a vocal minority because everyone else is either a normalfag or porn addicts by now.
>>28928672
>It's better to see for thread up the next day for a discussion
apparently not because wizchan is slow as balls and that's just not what people want evidently
>>28929039
Wizard chan is very specific unlike a board like x or vg.
>>28929039
7chan is slow as balls. Wizchan has a decent pacing, especially if there's a particularly active debate. It's slower, but as a result people tend to put more effort into their posts. There are some thoughtful topics here, but mostly it's just a comfy shitposter's paradise. If you absolutely need to have a (You) every few seconds, then maybe it's got to be like this but I'm keen on having better overall discussions.
>>28926868
This is a big part of what they need to settle for wizchan to be very functional as a community I think. There's this degree of cultural elitism, where incel is like a dirty word and those people are edged out, despite the fact that they already have an extremely niche userbase, and there are next to none who have been volcel their entire lives.
>>28926868
>The reality is that most people there are incels whether they admit it or not.
Well, that goes without saying, doesn't it? The concept of a volcel is a delusion and fantasy, of course. But there are reasons why people take refuge in fantasy.
The men posting on the site believe either correctly (in a few cases) or incorrectly (in most cases) that they belong to that almost incomprehensibly small group of men no woman could possibly want. Consider how painful that belief would be. Almost every man despite his flaws experiences sexual affection at least at some point over the course of his life. However, these men find themselves the exception to that. They perceive themselves to have been rejected in a radical sense. It is not simply that a woman has rejected them, but all women have rejected them. They are human beings who feel themselves without license to live as human beings live. And that hurts.
So you try to salvage dignity from humiliation. You pretend you don't have sex because such things are beneath you, that you are some higher type of being. You trick yourself into believing that those who enjoy what you never will are somehow inferior, just animals who give in to their base lusts. Which is silly. The reality isn't that the posters on wizarchan have abstained from their desires; it's merely that they haven't been allowed to indulge them.
It's a little like Lucifer cast from Heaven, resentful, angry. He convinces himself that God is a cruel despot, that his humiliation is somehow an expression of moral superiority. He declares it's better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven, and convinces himself he's an angel of light...even though the entire world sees him for the monster he is.
Suffice it to say, it's probably no coincidence that the site has a "depression" board. These men are suffering, no doubt. However, as painful as their circumstance is, admitting why would hurt infinitely more.
>>28929388
>>28929388
I think you're entirely wrong.
The anger and depression stems from not having a job, an education, passions or a meaning in life. BAd relations with parents too. For some the feeling of being alone is the suffering but it's a minority, and that feeling is accepted, and acknowledged.
The fact of not having sex isn't the thing that makes the suffering, it's the reasons why there never was nay sex in the first place that bring that suffering.
Evryone can have sex, just go see a whore.
And everyone can at least try and have a gf with all the social platforms and dating sites today (evn though It is hard to get dates there's still the possibility).
A lot of "failed normies" are ugly and have sex or relationships.
You see it all the time on this board, "failed normies" never even once consider to not have sex, or a girlfriend. It doesn't make any sense for them.
For the majority of users on that site it makes perfect sense and it's the last of their problems.
>>28929646
>I think you're entirely wrong.
I'm not particularly convinced of this. Consider the following:
>The anger and depression stems from not having a job, an education, passions or a meaning in life. Bad relations with parents too.
I fully understand why these things would cause anger and resentment, why they would inspire very deep depression. Sex isn't a panacea, of course. Only an idiot would believe that. People who have had sex often suffer from the same issues, and hurt as a result. So, although these factors may make sex less likely, it certainly doesn't guarantee one becomes initiated into the wizard-way.
So why are these things conflated with the status of "wizard"? How could a title that comes from a lack of sex beyond a certain age really have nothing to do with sex in anything more than an incidental way?
Out of curiosity, I took that little test at the very beginning to determine whether I should post on the site. The grand wizard told me my home was in different lands, or some such thing. Now, this is odd. Because I'm a 36 year old man who has never had sex, never kissed, held hands or had a date. I was disqualified, I suppose, because I'm employed? Because I have friends (well, one friend who lives 12 hours away that I see once a year...although I do speak to him regularly on the phone), because I don't want to be a 36 year old virgin?
I have to confess, I'm a bit at a loss. Why have a board dedicated to male virgins at a late age when late virginity is the least significant aspect of it?
>And everyone can at least try and have a gf with all the social platforms and dating sites today (even though It is hard to get dates there's still the possibility).
Well of course, Everyone can try. But a small number of men will never succeed, despite those efforts. Wouldn't it be for those small number of men that wizardchan is intended?
I could be entirely wrong, I'll admit. But if so, what exactly is the board for?
>>28930084
In principle it was meant to be for wizards and that's it: People over 30 who have not had sex. However, over time they started adding more and more conditions for what it means to be a wizard, perhaps not officially but in terms of what believe there. The NEET status becomes conflated with the wizard lifestyle because it takes a special kind of incorrigible person to reach this status in life, and so just having things like a job or having liked a girl in high school can be enough to get you disqualified there. If they could just get back to basics and stop being so elitist about things like incel/volcel and NEET characteristics, maybe it would help the board thrive a bit more.
>>28926572
The one problem I have over there is that they defend NEETdom and any criticism of it against the rules. Who says Wizards need to be NEETs?
>>28930084
You are right in saying that these issues are also shared with other "normal" people.
What separates wizards with these people does come down to sex,friends and your intentions with these two.
If you're a virgin that never had friends and you go express that you want a girlfriend or even just friends then you're not considered to be at home on wizchan. You're still technically a wizard, but you'll never be a part of the community.
This is because, wanting those things implies that if you could have them you will no longer be friendless, or a virgin. Therefore why even stay why even be a part of a community that you want to get out of ?
If you want it but are resigned and know you'll never have it then it's a bit diferent but still, the argument still applies.
There is no volcel/incel speak on wizchan (or not in the same sense as on this board) because there's only one thing you can be.
It's used in the sense of only neets are wizards though (which is not a shared view in the community).
Sex and friendships represent intimate connection with other human beings, it's the opposite of what wizchan is about.
The irc is also shunned over there, there's identities attached to that and it's considered normie.
So don't think of sex being the defining trait , think of human connections. Being alone is what it's all about.
I have to say that I think some of the users do want friends, or sex, and relationships with the opposite (or even same) sex. They just don't admit it as you said to the site or themselves.
What do you think ?
>>28930389
habing a job is fine , there's wageslave threads all the time.
And the cimmunity has been the way it's been for at leats 2 years. It's become this and it is this and always will be now, so whatver it was at the beginnig it never will bea again (assuming the community doesn't change it's views).
>>28930463
they defend it but it doesn't mean wizards need to be neets.
>>28930504
It's become this and it is this and always will be now
sorry that's stupid of me to say, it seems like it always will be but as I said after, it could change.
>>28930521
Will they kick people out if they talk about their job?
>>28930604
nope (muted cause unnoriginal so adding thext)
>>28930604
Only if they brag about it or if it is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
>>28930465
>This is because, wanting those things implies that if you could have them you will no longer be friendless, or a virgin. Therefore why even stay why even be a part of a community that you want to get out of ?
Well, because for some people, there isn't anywhere else to go, right? Shouldn't that be the point? No one wants to be damned, but if Heaven is an impossibility, one feels compelled to find some solace with the fellow demons who were born in Hell alongside him.
>If you want it but are resigned and know you'll never have it then it's a bit different but still, the argument still applies.
But why should it still apply? I suppose that's why I can't help but be suspicious of wizardchan. The elitism seems to be nothing more than desperate denial. Sure, a man like myself may be a wizard, but if he acknowledges that he hates being one, it serves as a reminder that there is something inherently painful about it. Not because of society's expectations, or anything silly like that. Rather simply because I, and ever other person, has a deep-rooted need to experience what all people are driven to experience. It's easier to pretend you're not in Hell if all the other demons lie and tell each other they're actually in Heaven, regardless of how hot the flames actually are.
But no one is served by that kind of denial, not really. It doesn't give anyone an honest forum to discuss their pain. They have to pretend that although they may be miserable, it is for some rarefied and lofty reason.
It's kind of an irony, really. If I want to discuss the issues of late male virginity with any sort of honesty, wizardchan is the very last place I should go.
I don't think having work gets you kicked, and you might even get away with mentioning that you had a friend once in the lounge, but despite what the rules say about relating specific experiences, literally any talk of the opposite sex is treading a fine line and can get you banned. Just stay away from the subject of women there, trust me. Basically, it's the same kind of normie-hating culture as /r9k/ but with an extra emphasis on chastity.
>>28930752
>Well, because for some people, there isn't anywhere else to go, right? Shouldn't that be the point? No one wants to be damned, but if Heaven is an impossibility, one feels compelled to find some solace with the fellow demons who were born in Hell alongside him.
How could you enjoy the company of other people who would despise you if they knew your thoughts ? If you write that you want a gf, or friends you'll be shunned. How can you enjoy the company of others who think so differently from you ? This is my point.
It's exactly as you said wizchan is the last place you want to go to to discuss late male virginity.
Again you seem to want sex ,friends, relationships , but not all humans do.
I'd agree with you that we (nearly) all have sexual urges (and that is also accepted , plenty of fap threads), but certainly not all humans crave friendship or sex. Some just don't care for the intimacy. Some have been born this way and I'd argue that it's also our exerience that shapes us. And maybe some wanted it before, but they certainly don't want it anymore. If the world rejects you since day 1, maybe you'll try for some time but at some point you'll just give up never to try again and never wanting to.
Again, if you browse the vast majority of the suffereing comes form the problems I enumerated before, nothing ot do with sex or friends.
>>28931046
>It's exactly as you said wizchan is the last place you want to go to to discuss late male virginity.
Well, that seems to be the case. Which breaks my heart, in all honesty. I have only one friend, and he's certainly not someone I can discuss late virginity with. I would love to have someone to have those discussions with but, let's be honest, you can't always get what you want. A wizard should know that far better than anyone.
However, my original question stands. Who exactly is the site actually meant for?
>Again you seem to want sex ,friends, relationships , but not all humans do.
Is it meant for people like that, that rare social animal who has no impulse for relationships? Or is it meant for people who like to pretend they are like that? Because we're all subject to Nature's dictates, whether we like to believe it or not.
If wizardchan is meant for people somehow exempt from the desire for human connection, why are they posting on a site in an attempt to make some sort of human connection?
I would argue it's because they really aren't exempt at all. It's simply that admitting that would be far too painful.
>>28931587
To be in the company of other like minded people.
Posting on an anonymous imageboard is very different from real life social interactions.
Instead of it being a yes or no it's more of a continuous white to black line.
Some I'm sure live as hermits and don't communicate at all with anybody. Wizchan users only communicate via imageboard, compared to the general population, that's not a whole lot of intimacy wouldn't you agree ?
And so that's where you can see the big difference.
You feel to strongly want those things but it is not the case of everybody. Really !
I'll say to you that it's too bad that wizchan isn't made for you and that this board might no be the best place either, but I'm sure other guys like you out there exist and you could talk about those kinds of thing with them.
I also have had friends and so I don't consider myself to be a part of the site, but I certainly can relate to a lot of the struggles and I think the threads are interesting.
I'm not totally dismising wat you're saying though because I am a regular user and I've had friends in the past, and so you were right for my case. But I'm not convinced you're right for the majority of the users.
>>28931987
>Wizchan users only communicate via imageboard, compared to the general population, that's not a whole lot of intimacy wouldn't you agree ?
But the question remains. Do they communicate in this way because this is the extent to which they desire human interaction, or because it's the extent to which they believe they have any hope of experiencing it? The distinction is a significant one. And, knowing what you know of the human condition, which do you actually think is the most likely scenario?
>I'm not totally dismising wat you're saying though because I am a regular user and I've had friends in the past, and so you were right for my case. But I'm not convinced you're right for the majority of the users.
And this speaks to my primary problem with wizardchan, and serves as the foundation for all of my skepticism regarding it. Do you honestly believe the vast majority of users you describe are different from you and myself in such a radical, fundamental way? That the Spirit of Nature miraculously passed them over? It would actually be nice to think so, wouldn't it? That these men who find themselves incapable of experiencing what most people do are perfectly fine with it. It's a pleasant lie, but no less a lie for all of that.
>You feel to strongly want those things but it is not the case of everybody. Really !
Really? Then why call it "wizardchan"? Are they actually unhappy because they are unemployed and would be happy with their virginal status otherwise? Call it "NEETchan". Are they perfectly content with the fact that they've never held another person in their arms but lament they fact they had a poor upbringing? Why not call it "Abusivechildhoodchan"? If nothing else, that would be far more honest, no?
Of course it would be, were that the actual problem. But we both know it's not. As long as the site calls itself "wizardchan", it has no choice but to be far more honest than many of its posters want it to be.
>>28926572
no, but /cgl/ rustles my jimmies so fucking much in ways I can't describe.
>>28927780
This is my biggest problem with the place. I love the rules, most of the community is ok, absolutely love the strict moderation since it's the only thing that can preserve the quality of the community, but knowing that normies are running the show ruins the site for me. Why are they even doing it? What do they get out of maintaining a site that hates them? I think to them it's like a zoo. They create this nice stable safe space for society's strangest outcasts so they can gawk and laugh at them.
>>28932713
Not having sex or friends and not wanting them is key. So to me the chan could be called alonechan, but wizchan works well because it implies a fundamental aspect, no sex which means you're alone. (It's not sufficient but it's the vital part).
I can't make myself clearer as to what the chan is about.
You think all humans are like me and you , I would not assume that to be true. If someone says something on the internet, I assume it to be true (would someone tell lies on the internet ? ^^ (of course)) , because otherwise you'd believe nothing.
The truth comes out, a lot of people get banned because oops they talked about friends, or a social situation they were in or wanting sex/gf or whatver and bam they get banned. The will of the community clearly shows what they strive for or want.
You're saying they are all lying to themselves or to each other, I don't think so.
We both know that hermits right ? People who live years and even die without seeing and speaking to anyone. And they do this by choice. Well, think of wizchan as those people but still wanting comfort of their own homes and the internet.
It is not because you want somehitng that other people do too. For example on the subject of sex, I don't try and get it. And this has been going on for a few years and will go on.
I thought about it the other day, If I don't try and put myself ou there, I'll never happen. I will die a virgin. I don't want to fuck a whore just to do it.
The only thing that troubled me was the impossiblity to have a kid. But I'm sure there are legal ways to do it medically or just paying some woman to shove my sperm into her pussy. That is if I wanted kids.
So, In my mind right now I'm slowly realising and accepting I'll die a virgin.
I haven't tried for years, I'm stil not trying and If I don't have that kick I never will.
Would this mentality be different from yours ? Do you not believe me when I say these things ?
>>28932713
>>28933402
(cont)
I believe I'm being honest here, and I'm sure some other wizzies are much further along the path than me and so I wouldn't say they're deluding themselves.
>>28926868
>I personally think that the whole volcel concept is retarded
Not when it's for something greater than sex.
>>>/reddit/
>>28932713
(PS)
I feel where you are coming from though. I have too said myself recently that the majority of the userbase would want these things but delude themselves (after a comment was made of a guy that used skype and a few very normie threads), so you are right that these fake wizards exist. I'm just arguing with you because I really hope it's not the majority.
I went over there from this place 2 years ago and I think a ot of the userbase comes from here too. So there's bound to be plenty of normies but I believe after some time they get bored, when there's no talk of sex and women or friends, they get bored and leave.
Why do you want sex or a girlfriend ? It's a shame really, you'd maybe feel at home over there like me if it's just the ine friend thing.
>>28928174
>>28928250
You heard it hear first lads.
No talking about women on R9K anymore.
don't wanna trigger the wojacks.
>>28933469
Good for you. Your mana is outstanding, but somehow I doubt the average wizard has lived like a monk and will be sainted upon their death. This is a minority group even on wizchan, yet everyone is volcel these days. To be anything but is unacceptable. Either it's a board of Catholic priests, or the community is not as righteous and holy as they'd like people to believe.
>>28933402
>Not having sex or friends and not wanting them is key.
So it's a role-playing board where men imagine they are somehow exempt from being human and celebrate that? It's fun to play pretend, I'll acknowledge at least that much. But I can't help but be skeptical when anyone suggests a state like that is anything more than wishful fantasy.
>You think all humans are like me and you , I would not assume that to be true.
Why not? What possible reason could you have to believe that's not the case, save for the assertions of admittedly sad men who still, strangely enough, have recourse to a "depression" board for some inexplicable reason?
>The will of the community clearly shows what they strive for or want.
Perhaps. But if the community wants a comforting lie, that doesn't point to the actual issues said community is struggling with, does it? If nothing else it reveals, almost embarrassingly, the issues they are fleeing from.
>We both know that hermits right ? People who live years and even die without seeing and speaking to anyone.
Well, certainly such men exist. However, consider how often such men are relegated to the world of myth and fable. And even those men really aren't exempt from being human, even in the context of those myths. St. Anthony commended himself to the howling, empty isolation of the desert. And yet the succubi followed him there and tortured him. He could separate himself from human beings, but not from the reality of his own humanity. No matter what deep cave he chose to hide in, it followed him regardless. Because no man can hide from Nature. It's is as close to him as the beat of his own heart, and will follow him wherever he flees to. Even if it's the endless expanse of the desert. Even if it's the lowest circle of Hell.
>>28933974
welp let's just agree to disagree.
We're going in circles here so better to stop here.
Been cool talking to you.
>>28933974
I'll just (re)ask you a last question.
Why do you want a gf or sex ?
You don't undestand and even think it's possible to not want those things and I don't understand why youd want those things past a certain point.
>>28934360
>Been cool talking to you.
Likewise. I've really enjoyed our exchange; it's one of the best I've had on here in a long while. And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be stubborn purely for the sake of it. But I'm honestly trying to wrap my head around wizardchan. If it's not for wizards, which it obviously isn't, what is it for? I just find it bizarre that a site excludes men it purportedly exists for the sake of.
>>28934403
>I'll just (re)ask you a last question.
>Why do you want a gf or sex ?
Because, sadly enough, I'm a human being. Which means I want to experience the intimate connections all human beings feel themselves driven to have. It's not a choice, not really. Deluding myself otherwise could be a choice, I suppose. But if given the choice of a comforting lie or a painful truth, I'm afraid I'll have to choose the latter. I'll hurt either way. With the second option, at least I'll do so honestly.
>>28934693
Come over on wizchan if you want to talk seriously like this ^^.
In all seriousness It's a shame you feel that way. But I think it's the correct and brave thing to do not lie and choosing the painful truth as you've done.
To me the truth is easier, It's just realising that I no longer want it, or at the very least am too lazy, don't care enough for it (I masturbate 1 to 2 times a day so it's not that I have a low libido).
I'm off to bed.
(if you feel too lonely, or tfw no gf, I've felt that hobbies (programming for me) can really immerse you in another world, plus there's lots of communities you can join on internet forums so you're also communicating. It helped me when I was inside for 3 years and it'll help me in the future and mybe it can you (maybe you already know this too ^^).)
